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Even as a black Brit, I feel a sense of loss at how much London has changed over the last three decades. I’m glad someone is articulating this sentiment.

I grew up in working class area, in a very Labourite household and now in the top 2% of earners, dispelling a few myths about upward mobility and liberalism. Kaufmann is right, it's ALL about immigration and protecting what is ours culturally and socially. This country's social cohesion has never been lower, in fact it's through the floor, and you can lay almost all of that at the door of mass immigration. Emphasis on the 'mass', because it's at this point Leftists become even more disingenuous than normal and shout 'immigration is good', when the critique is the scale of immigration, as unimaginable and unsustainable as it has been. The English people have every right as anyone to defend their culture, and Brexit was just the beginning of that. In the words of the great Irish statesman Edmund Burke, 'A society is a pact between those that have died, those that are living and those yet to be born...' It is not ours to betray or throw away to others, but to preserve and pass on.

Having a college education just means more brainwashed not more educated

How is it racist to say some people are rapists? With all due respect, what world is this guy living in?

"We must tolerate difference". Only if it doesn't end up destroying the very social and societal norms which took hundreds of years and millions of lives to build ole chap.

It's entirely sane and reasonable for indigenous European whites to feel repulsed and object to being demographically replaced in their own ancestral homelands. However, Kaufman and these guys sit there discussing in their seemingly high minded, reasonable and mild mannered tones that maybe the anti-whites have overplayed their hand by becoming too overt in expressing their implicit desire and drive to replace indigenous white Europeans (in other words, us anti-whites have been found out and things could get bumpy with the natives). Kaufman suggests that perhaps its time to revert back to the more covert strategy of the slow boil approach to solve the problem of replacing whites.

I have only been to London once in my life, so I don't know what it was like 50 years ago. But it is an absolute hole now. I couldn't bear for Australian cities to become anything like it.

It's ok to have a white identity. It's ok to be a white nationalist. It's ok to keep white majority nations majority white.

It's really simple. People don't mind change, but we do mind extensive change, especially in the time frame of 2 decades where the entire cultural face of a city is altered.

He says identifying as 'ethnically English' is racist, what about ethnically Irish, Scots, German, native American, are those racist identities too?

It sounds as though he is saying all immigrants are the same, European immigrants have more or less the same views as the indigenous population, but importing people from the tribal areas of Pakistan is going to cause problems, they don't become British because they don't identify with the culture.

So we must embrace the replacement of our nations entire ethnic population when the only reason aging might give rise to a problem is because of policy ineptitude. You could just encourage native birth rates or define the retirement age as a function of life expectancy. The solution of mass emigration to the problem of an aging native population seems to be a classic case of the cure being far worse than the disease. You three are offering us Ethoncide and you can’t work out why we wouldn’t want it (were just plebs I guess). You three make Enoch Powell’s vision of our future feel very close right now.

"There is no reason for people of different genetics, religions, and cultures to live together in a single society or state. None whatsoever. The very concept of "a multicultural society" is intrinsically self-contradictory to the point of being oxymoronic. The whole point of the nation-state is to permit the different nations to live in peace according to their own distinct and particular preferences. That was the idea behind the several and sovereign American States being "laboratories of democracy". And to the contrary, all that "multiculturalism" and "open borders" and "mass immigration" guarantees is a never-ending struggle of all against all, as each different tribe, religion, and culture seeks to impose its preferences on all the others." - Vox Day

Immigrants do place a disproportionate impact on public resources in Britain and the US.

As a white Canadian I've dated more "ethnic" women than white women and the only time I didn't feel discriminated against was a Filipino family. My ancestors built an incredible country and a culture everyone in the world wants to come to, yet I'm constantly being told white people don't have any culture, plan vanilla, boring, and white people are the ones being called racist? Which is just hilarious considering it's all white western countries taking in immigrants, intermarrying and excepting everyone else. Japan, China, Korea, India, all of Africa, they're not taking in mass amounts of immigrants if any at all. Why not? We must be doing something right in the West if everyone wants into our countries and culture. Is Japan still Japan if the population is 80 % Indian? There should be assimilation, if there's not then the country is but a colony of the majority of the ethnic populations country of origin including it's religion, customs, culture and politics. Which isn't that what they're leaving in the first place?

I miss a question about how the mass immigration of muslims to a country like Sweden will impact western values. U can't import ppl from a countrys that have a 80% support for sharia and think they will become European liberals when they cross the border.

Eric, like most experts talking about the economy, says we need young immigrants to help pay for our pensions etc. But there are two points that need to be made: 1: Young immigrants only help pay for pensions if they are working. Simply being in the UK and drawing benefits hinders rather than helps. And remember, their own pensions will soon need paying for. 2. The UK population needs to continuously grow with a constant stream of new immigrants to sustain this model. What will happen when the UK is full. Presumably we will have to change the model. So why not change now before the UK is solely comprised of immigrants and their offspring?

If you have a drink every time you here "My mum is Latin American" then you will become an alcoholic.

Interesting that this Jew grew spent 7 years in Japan and came back to encourage race mixing and you have Jared Taylor grew up in Japan, speaks fluent Japanese, and yet was against race mixing and for nationalism.

saying some of them are rapists is not racist at all. some of them are rapists. they come from a culture where rape is common place. there are literally entire cities in mexico where their entire economy is centered around sex slavery. and he was not talking about all immigrants he was talking about illegals. if you can't vet anyone and anyone can come through any time they want clearly you are going to end up with a significantly higher proportion of criminals.

Nationalism is simply an affirmation and assertion to one's right of national self-determination and sovereignty. How that plays out depends on the Founding Fathers of the nation state - US chose Republican form of a very particular kind of governance. Some became constitutional monarchies and after some time became parliamentary democracies and so on. That's all it is.

Ethnic diversity is predictive of societal conflict, as shown by Tatu Vanhanen's research, comparing almost all countries of the world (Tatu Vanhanen: Ethnic conflicts, 2012): the greater the diversity, the more probable the conflict. Robert Putnam found a similar thing in 2001 in the US (published his research in 2007): the greater the ethnic diversity of a place (town or city), the less the trust between people. This latter result has been found by most other research in many different countries.

Something tells me if we we're importing journalists instead of unskilled laborers these people would have a bit more to say about immigration.

Well done to Konstantin and Francis for opening a civilised debate on these thorny, difficult subjects. We desperately need to air these issues for the health of our society. This follows another refreshingly open discussion last week with Matt Goodwin on a not unrelated area. Good that Eric Kaufmann thinks that a white identity is perfectly acceptable. Good that he thinks that mourning the changes to our society caused by multiculturalism is not racist, but a sign of conservatism. Good also that he understands that the Brexit vote was not primarily about economics, but about politics and culture. However, when he says that white people should, in effect, be lied to by their leaders into accepting being a minority in their own country, I cannot agree at all. That type of deceit and 'nuanced' messaging by politicians is part of the problem. Eric Kaufmann accepted that the only other model of a multi-ethnic society we have at present, in Latin America, has not been successful, and has led to racial stratification and deep social problems. A lesson to be learnt there surely? I have yet to see credible evidence that Britain needs to add a quarter of a million to its population every year simply to make the economy function. Mass immigration is not inevitable. It is the result of policies chosen by our political leaders for several decades without any sort of transparency. They have been extraordinarily slippery in avoiding being held to account for those policies. Hopefully grown-up discussions like this will lead us to find ways of undoing the harm they have done.

At the beginning I thought Kaufmann was good, and then it went off tracks during the 2nd half. Probably because he struggles so much to stay in the middle... I think the risk for him is nobody will be pleased with his approach. Ethnicity is one thing, culture is another though. What about cultural shift? When that happens, everything will be different. The fact is, at this rate, West European societies will soon be dead. They will be multicultural... at best! In a multicultural society the "Other" does not become "like me". But how well the minorities live is up to the majority. For the sake of argument, let's assume Muslims reach 50% of the population in GB. Why should a Muslim majority Great Britain be tolerant towards minorities, when Islam dominated societies all around the world are not? When they will feel victorious as a group (they already do)? They will have taken over the West after all! Isn't that a victory? And when most likely their share of the population will keep growing through time? The truth is: when the first London / Paris... call for prayer happens, half of the country will go "YES!", and the other: "What happened???" You can conclude the rest from there...

Prof. Kaufmann makes a lot of good points but I still feel like he is stuck in some unfortunate tropes. I.e. "resistance to change" is a practical sociological term but politically and analytically this description of a part the human condition (everything constantly changes) is really easy to misuse in a derogatory description of conservatives as people who are fundamentally out of touch with reality. What if I told you that it is possible to be ok with 'change' but only if that change is for the better? Change is not just change. There is not a single place in the Middle East of Africa that I would like to live. And I do not appreciate my Scandinavian country gradually turning into the Middle East or Africa through migration. I would probably score pretty high on those psychological tests of accepting 'change'. But I am not stupid. I know chaos and destruction when I see it.

I like how left-hand dude snickers about things being better in the past in America. 1998 USA versus 2018 USA. Tell me it's better now. People were actually vaccinating their children. Obesity wasn't at an epidemic level. We didn't have 20 million illegal immigrants. We weren't living on the heels of two failed invasions. Or did he think people meant 'during slavery' or 'during segregation'?

Interesting that Kaufmann grew up in Hong Kong and Jared Taylor in Japan and they both developed a similar area of interest (very different takes obviously).

I'm mixed race so everyone else should be as well.

Just a simple question. Just how many of those large wooden sailing ships during the 15th, 16th, 17th, 18, or 19th century did the Africans in Africa build and sail to rescue their brothers and sisters that were taken into slavery in the west and in Europe? Surely they did something to try to help them escape.

1/4 Chinese, 1/4 Latinx, 1/2 jewish 100% k!ke

The four-eyed man-child in the pirate outfit is hard to take seriously.

Absolutely fascinating conversation, appreciate it guys. I dont agree w everything Kaufman is saying (nor his hosts) but at least they are doing it in an intelligent and respectful manner. My views on immigration and demographic change are extremely complex but at the risk of going on too long let me just say two things : first, your true red pill comes when you can say you want less or even no immigration not because of reason X, y, or z, but simply because you don't want it, that is entirely your right as a human and a voter; and second, this notion that demographic change is inevitable and only one way is total bunk and needs to be addressed as such.

Lets heat a little slower that water under that frog.

14:20 This was irritating to listen to. Racism doesn't depend on who you are or what you feel. Either a comment is factually racist or it is factually not racist, and facts themselves are never racist. It's so bloody simple, I really don't understand what is wrong with some people.

You can be for both diversity and non-diversity. I think the issue is that people can accept change and immigration but there comes a point when you'd ask when is enough enough? For example if it was decided in the next year that 10 million people would be entering the country because "Diversity! Yay!", surely it's not just about openness to that. At some point numbers add up and it's not just about a lack of openness.

It is far more simple than you guys have talked about. If you are indigenous then you care for your country and you vote leave and you are concerned about immigration and demographic change.

It's odd that white people in Europe don't use the term "indigenous". Surely Tommy Robinson would have more clout if he was an indigenous man with indigenous knowledge?

There is no economic cost to reducing immigration. It's the opposite

Actually the EU immigration have let theifing gangs from Poland, Balkans, Romania etc into north Europe. In Sweden these gangs do the majority of burglaries. So the EU freedom of movement is not without problem.

Also I don't agree with just calling everything conservatism when people don't want things to change too much. At what point are things just common sense and X has a consequence? I'm for immigration but for example if were decided 15 million people would be entering this country in 1 year, I'd be a bit like "O.o". That has consequences.

I feel there something off with his message. When he said as example that politician should be saying ‘we’ll slow down immigration even though this will mess with the economy’ it’s like he’s saying ‘things will go bad, it’s your fault. But because we are pampering you will fuck up the country.’ Sounds a bit high handed

Costa Rican isn't a race first of all. So the Costa-Rican could be white if his family from there was predominatnly spanish in blood. Second of all, Ashkenazic Jews are also fairly white (Southern European, Turkish kind of white). So he is "pretty much" white except for the 1/4 Chinese stuff. Big deal.

The problem is that it's not about whether it's okay to be an ethnic nationalist on a personal level. The issue is that one side wants to reduce immigration and the other side wants to increase it. Most people do not want to increase immigration. Very few people see immigration as an automatic good. Most people rightly will recognize that it's hard to adjust to a new culture, especially if you don't have any skills or ability to speak the language. GDP increase is not a good thing to push for. Quality of life suffers as immigration increases if said immigrants are not suited for your country.

We are losing our culture for a number of reasons. Even if immigration is brought down to more manageable numbers, the Left seems to have taken over the education system (and that's from junior school, not just at universities) and seem to be down-playing our cultural heritage because to look at our history with any sense of it being a part of us is seen as exclusionary for immigrant children or it's seen as racist. This needs to change if immigrants are to feel anything like an attachment to this country. But the Left is so very international (and anti-white) in their outlook they don't want anyone (white, black, whatever) to feel any sense of attachment and belonging. Without this how do we get any integration? Eric Kaufmann said "Mainstream parties will listen". Well the 2019 election showed Labour isn't listening and reading the readers comments in the Guardian earlier today (4th Jan 2020) Labour supporters still don't get it.

Great discussion. I really think that the anti-white sentiment in popular culture, countless 'Dear White People' articles crossing our Facebook feeds leading up to the 2016 election in the US for example, should be considered. A friend of mine voted for Obama twice and then Trump, she said it was because she's tired of being called a racist just because she's white. That's what the Black Lives Matters movement had devolved to in many ways imo. They had a lot of public sentiment at their peak, sympathy coming from the stories and videos of unjust and criminal police killings, but they never put forth a legislative agenda or any agenda at all to address this issue. I guess you could argue that it's about raising consciousness around racism and white supremacy but it comes off as total condemnation of white people. Searching for ways to do so. Barbecue is cultural appropriation for example, and racist. Associating historical trauma with individuals who had nothing to do with it, while ignoring the sins of all other cultures. Very different from educating people about history and how that has had a lasting impact. I think many people see this as a threat, or maybe just an extreme annoyance. In the US we frame Trump support as fear of losing domination in society, etc. I think Trump is like a giant social media rant, a big F You to the endless nitpicking at white people, men, straight people, etc.

Would be great to have this guest back on, after the brexit, freedom convoy, dutch farmers protests, fillets jaunts, sri lanka uprising. surprised that not that many people have seen this great interview.

Every person in the world is the descendant of immigrants, unless your family has never left the Rift valley in Africa. The first white immigrants to North America, Australia and New Zealand didn't sail into established societies with roads, bridges ports power stations, dams, water, power and telecommunications networks in place to get a share of the wealth that another culture had created. They made their countries rich by effort and investment. Modern migrants want to take a share of the wealth that neither they, nor their parents and grandparents have built.

I never used to think about this until I started hearing the anti-white rhetoric and all this woke stuff and I started to think there's a double standard. I'm glad I listened to this 🙂

Why do people equate culture with being "white" or "black" etc... I couldn't care less about someones colour its about their moral values and fundamental believes which are important. To say people in the west who love their country, its culture and history as being "white" is wrong.

Guys, I recently found your channel and genuinely love it. Great guests who you allow to speak at length, and who've expanded and enriched my views on a myriad of subjects. Thank you.

good to see a sociologist talking about the psychological factors that influence voters

15:17 So 'Muslim' _is_ a race?

Listen to an interview of Eric Kaufmann on BBC 3, the interviewer would not stop interrupting him and it was impossible to get to understand his ideas. You guys are doing a better job at getting people's ideas out and discussed than seasoned journalist, good job!

As usual Triggernometry provides a platform for reasoned and sensible discussion of ideas. My hat off to you gentlemen! Keep'em coming

The rate of change is happening too fast... For centuries it was 10,000s, 10,000s a decade, 10,000s per year.. 100,000s a year.... It reached 600,000 for a few years in the UK ... Even if they were all white it would raise concerns .. In villages.. they don't like the rate of change with new people moving in either.

I have no idea where that guy gets idea whites will mix. White interacial marriage is super rare, and most who marry interracially are minorties with each other.

Eric says early on that criticism of Muslims is racist. What a very silly thing to say. Islam is a religion - a choice of philosophy and lifestyle - nothing to do with ethnicity. It isn't racist to criticise a religion. Just like the phrase "Islamophobia", it's just designed to invalidate criticism by conflating it with a form of bigotry that most modern democracies believe to be acceptable. It's a strawman.

I dont want anyone to tell anyone what to wear either, but i dont think you should be allowed to dress in clothes that makes it impossible for you to get a job. specially when you live off welfare. If you cant dress according to the culture in your country, you shouldn't be allowed to get money from people who work for a living. I know quite a few Muslims, some who lived in Denmark for 30+ years and still doesn't know a word danish. some get disability pensions because it was easier than to kick them around the system and paying their translator when they failed to show up. and if they treat them as average Danes they would be dragged into a media storm for being racist, so they just give them what ever they want- funny enough there isnt any other group of people who does as poorly as people of the Islamic faith.

22 minutes in. I think that "racism" is the wrong approach to take to this conversation. The presupposition of racism is very much a progressive ideological point, and not the common person's daily life. Further, at least in this interview, the word "racism" has not been clearly defined, it is conflated with xenophobia, discrimination, animus, limits on levels and speed of change, etc. Further still, it conflates nationalities with race. "Mexican" for example, is not a race. Another reason why "race" is the wrong approach is that often, what people identify with are their values and beliefs, not the form or tone of one's body. I regret that the notion that race is a valuable element to bring into the conversation has been accepted by default, rather than having been questioned at the outset. I also regret, that in this conversation, that "right" politics have been associated with certain positions that can just as easily be accepted by those who are center, or left. Populism, for example need not necessarily be considered right-wing as there is also left-wing populism. I haven't read the book, this video is my introduction, but at the moment, in this conversation, it strikes me as a sloppy stew of unquestioned assumptions and presuppositions. Based on what I'm hearing from the interviewers here, my impression is that they are generally progressive people seeking a polite and courteous way of getting someone to pat them on the back for being the smart kids, rather than of actually understanding how other people might think, to see how they can meet their needs as well as their own, something that the author did, to his credit reference earlier.

"I can't have everything I want because we have to pay the pensions and so on.." Note that even the UN admits that mass immigration is not a viable long term solution to the social welfare/pension crisis. Read the literature review of their 'replacement migration' report. www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm Fullfact.org, an independent fact checker in the UK, reports that non-European migrants to the UK have had a net negative fiscal impact on the country. fullfact.org/immigration/how-immigrants-affect-public-finances/ The impact of immigration overall is fairly negligible. The negative or positive fiscal impact is equivalent only to about 1% of GDP, which is laughable. fullfact.org/immigration/how-immigrants-affect-public-finances/ When we live in countries that have been/are being destroyed by fiat currency inflation (continuous QE and r rate suppression that spur on recessions), when we all owe massive amounts of debt, and when we won't be able to afford pensions in the near future, we should be doing everything we can to avoid conflict when the collapse comes. Bringing in massive amounts of people from diverse cultural and religious backgrounds that have various beef with each other and the host culture is a disastrous policy. People are realising how misinformed the academics and elites are. Journos providing support to the neocon narrative that led to disastrous wars that slaughtered millions, the replication crisis in psychology that found 50%(!!) of papers failed to replicate etc... Let's not forget economists. Mainstream Keynesian economists can't even predict recessions or estimate growth in GDP accurately without revising almost every single time. Plus: "Ioannidis et al.’s shocking results: After reviewing meta-analyses of more than 6,700 empirical studies, they concluded that most studies, by their very design, would often fail to detect the economic relationship under study. Perhaps worse, these “underpowered” studies also provided estimates of the economic parameters that were highly inflated, typically by 100% but in one third of the cases, by 300% or more." www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2018/Murphystatistics.html www.econlib.org/archives/2013/09/robert_murphy_o_2.html And then there's the important question: are we an economy with a culture, or a culture with an economy? "Mr Peston said he regretted looking at eastern European migration purely as an economist. "Looking back on it I got it wrong and I feel embarrassed about this," he said. "When we had all that migration from eastern Europe, people like me focused too much on the economic benefits in terms of the rate we were growing and not enough on the experience of communities. It is not, in my view, racist to be concerned if the composition of your community changes by something like 10 or 15 per cent points over a very small number of years. "At the time I was at the BBC and let's be clear, the BBC got this completely wrong - we did not listen to millions of our viewers at the time." www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1028077/BBC-got-it-wrong-on-migration Economists, IMO, tend to have such a positive bias towards immigration because usually University staff is very diverse. I can vouch for the fact that there are typically tons of amazing immigrant academics at Universities. However, these academic immigrants are not representative of the typical immigrant. They are highly intelligent, less religious, much more likely to assimilate properly etc.. For so long the elites and academics have been able to say 'oopsy whoopsy' and move on when they made disastrous mistakes. Normal people get fired from their jobs when they mess up that badly. Well, now the mainstream media, the political establishment, and academics are all losing trust and they only have themselves to blame.

Turkmenistan? No subsaharian or amerindian blood among turkmenistan population. No, it definitely WILL be more like Brazil or Mexico.

as someone on the alt-right I like his even handed approach, refreshing.

Somewhere Vs anywhere summarises it so well for me. Would love to see the brexit results split by "I live within 15 miles of where I went to school".

What rubbish. If you have net immigration of +300k a year for many years then of course that will put pressure on public services. The public can see that, why not academics?

A yamaka would fit so well on his head I can see it!

I don't think it's so much a fear of being 'less white' but more how negatively 'being white' is being outwardly and promotedly seen as that's being kicked back at, also to the point of immigration worries or that those with money move to predominantly whiter areas are both regarded as symptoms of racism when I believe it's more that people want away from the conflict of culture more than to be away from the cultures themselves

But adding the word immigrants completely changes the nature of the question. If there is already pressure on public services adding people in addition to those already causing the pressure is clearly an additional issue. It's logistics, nothing to do with race.

MY EXPERIENCE in France, being french: the Algerians who marry french women or men (white or of origin as we say) have their new wives or husbands convert to Islam. That's a problem. The more islam in the country, the more we go into Lebanon direction.

the trouble is now just critisising certain people is racist now ,also why is the law system implying that one group of people is more importent than the other ,i thought we were all equel

Canadian is an ethnic group, as well as a nationality. A lot of people are unaware of this because we have been re-educated.

Very good take on identity politics rhetoric and its shortfalls! I agree very much with Prof. Kaufman about the greaving of loss of identity in face of a rapid change.

I personally have met my fair share of people of colour from countries and never had any real problems. I could see the increasing diversity more positively if all immigrants from non-European countries assimilated perfectly into the culture and were happy to live alongside whites. The problem is that at least some poc are indoctrinated by schools, academia and perhaps also their families into hating white Europeans and Western culture (bc slavery, colonialism, Nazis, the usual stuff). If every poc was nice towards whites I could get used to some diversity, but being told youre evil for your whiteness, you have privilege and should shut up bc of your skin colour makes me prefer living in a country like Poland or Hungary.

Problem with this Professor is his focus on skin colour instead of cultural differences which I believe indigenous are much more afraid of & are right to be

Politics is primarily about interest. The Working classes have generally been slowest and least effective in furthering their common interest in the Public forum. The European Working classes have been seduced into abdicating the pursuit of their interest to a new politically ascendant class of Governors and Representatives which broke through in the1960s, and which have matured to a Socially liberal, progressive and economically Neo-liberal Political ascendancy. Their attempts to recover their interest have been slow to coalesce, and easily marginalised, and more critically, overly dependent upon educated, Middle class heroes emerging as Working class heroes. It had been the great hope of the Nineteenth Century Liberals, Progressives and Socialists that Education would emancipate fully the Working classes, at once able to understand Political economy, and both sustain and further their interest in the Commonwealth.

Everything this guy says sounds wonderful but gives me the creeps at the same time.

The bit about the logic of the extent to which immigrants are putting pressure on public services is flawed because it depends on whether the immigrants are viewed as part of the whole or an unexpected addition. As an analogy if you can hold a load of 100kg and giving you an additional 10kg means you drop it all, to what extent is that 10kg the cause of you dropping the whole 110kg? The 10kg is only a fraction of the whole weight but it's addition is what means you can't bear the whole. It can be viewed as both a fraction and a major cause. This may be the crux of the whole divide. I've thought for a long time that Brexit is two groups voting for the status quo. Areas that are used to having a high throughput of outsiders voted for the option that would most likely maintain that whilst areas not used to that throughput voted for the option most likely to protect them from it.

Thank you for hosting this but i have rarely been this frustrated over listening to someone and it may be good in this case. Mostly in the hopes that i can actually speak to this guy. Tl;dr is its not race, its culture. The two are not the same and the "immigrants" are actually invaders because they refuse to adopt our culture, and insist we adopt and "respect" theirs. To which quite a few people are rightly getting angry. Full rant - You seem to beoperating from an initial premise that the folks voting leave or for trump are /racist/. I get this idea from your immediate jump from immigration to /race/. The immigration resistance has something to do with race only to the fact the problems related to immigration are coming from specific races. As in the problem isn't the race, it's the /refusal/ to integrate into the culture /here/. We would be facing the exact same issue with say the french deciding to move to england but not integrating, turning that section of england into /france/. The issue is not race it's culture, something you mention but immediately conflate with race which is what ticked me off so badly. If you try to define "white culture" im fairly sure you will do nothing more than describe nothing more than the culture of the west. It's not white culture it's western and the west at large has consistently large populations of /invaders/ coming in. The actual equivalent is if i moved into a room in your house, then told you screw off its my room, so my rules. All without permission or paying rent or any such. Are you going to just smile and let it go because im going to shack up with your daughter eventually so oh well? Sorry for ranting. And the block of text. At work and responding via phone so yay.

it being okay to express a moderate white identity (It's okay to be white) @ 9:09

Trigga boys, if you going to have people like Kaufmann on then you need to ask the right questions. You’ve softballed him and everyone is having to look at the comments for the questions and points you should have raised.

I agree about the inate personalities having differing preferences about stability and change. Some people are conservative or liberal by nature.

I don't think upping amounts of immigration was a democratic vote in the first place, someone tell me if I'm wrong lol 🙃

i have a feeling this guy lives is a very safe neighborhood

I should watch this discussion again to make sure I heard this right, but I believe he said that it would be insulting (or not sensitive) to tell minorities that they are slowly intermarrying and integrating, but white people should be fine with the idea that a mixed race will become a majority in 80 years or so. I disliked this glaring inconsistency, but agreed with the general idea. Would not "like " the video for that reason.

Wow he really had some original conclusions and from my experience was right on the money on nearly everything except his future prognosis's. I suspect these grand plans of building instant Multiracial-cultural societies will dreadfully go up in flames as whites (who are for now the cement) declines. We will see "white flight" will not be limited to finding a new neighborhood. As they run out of town to go to, they will be seeking out new countries to live in, ....countries which did not immigrate huge numbers of foreign cultures.

Is it just me that doesn't think what Trump said about Mexicans was racist? Firstly nationality isn't a race, and secondly, it must be a true thing to say by virtue of what we know about rape being consistent across different cultures. It wasn't a particularly nice or smart thing to say of course, but racist?

An expert is only good as his views. Many experts in reality do not understand the causes of a problem and only focus on the symptoms. For example - is pressure on the NHS a problem versus is immigration causing pressure on the NHS can by virtue have a major impact. If pressure is 10% too high for the overall population, yet each new immigrant is found to directly increase pressure by 50% for example then one specific major cause of pressure on the NHS is immigration. As such it would logically lead to a higher % of respondents stating it is a problem.

Get Jared Taylor on.

I find this interesting for the fact there is this narrative that white identity is toxic, which is largely untrue this narrative is pushed largely for political reasons than anything else. Because if it was true slavery would have never of ended, and it's far to say Europe would be speaking German today. But these very same people never speak about other identities in this same way, even though racism isn't confined to one group wether that's today or back in history. And this alone shows how tolerant white actually are, they are actually more tolerant than other groups believe it or not. And with western society the way it is today a lot of this will differ depending on your political view, people's views today as shaped by their political views.

There are several, if not many, examples of successful Multicultural, Multiethnic polities. They have not infrequently arisen under an Empire, with an Ascendant Ethnic core which may have gradually dissolved. They have generally arisen as Empires expanded, rather than in the declining phase, or after the Empire had lost all political force. Contemporary West European polities are exceptional in making a commitment to becoming Multiethnic and Multicultural societies on a basis of full equality, as they must increasingly retrench in the face of economic and military power poles drifting to the East. No country for Old White men? That Latino looked pretty mean! Tough, too!

I understand telling people that "the immigrants who come here are integrating" is comforting, but what happens when they go outside and their eyes remind them you've just lied? Pretending the problem away will not work. The reason people think "the average number of Muslims is 2-3x higher" is because they cluster in cities (this isn't an attack, people like to live with like), so when you go to Glasgow/Birmingham/London then every 5th person you see on average *is* Muslim (and they are noticable because they do not dress like they are British - this plays into the point above), which is 2-3x the national average. My friend lived on a street which was almost exclusively Muslim, I've personally lived on a Polish street (and I *never* heard English when I walked to uni or work, I know it is wrong to feel this way but it is unnerving and noticable), the Birmingham school protests are happening in schools which are 90%+ Muslim, these are because the national average has zero baring on local changes. Great to hear someone come on and talk about the issue, but his prescription of "tell everyone it's fine and maybe lie a bit" is, frankly, not particularly impressive for a man who studied it. Why are we being forced to be minorities in our own countries? Where is the justification for it? Pensions?? We were never asked and now acting like we just need to be happy and try to convince mixed race children to act as British as possible to try and counter-act the growing number of people who seem utterly driven to not act in any way British. I don't like white identity, I don't want any racial identity stuff pushed, I just want Britain to have a British identity and it is being dissolved infront of me, and anyone who speaks about it is either a racist or telling me the mixed race children of tomorrow hopefully will act more British than everyone living on my street right now (is this really the best academia can offer on this subject?).

An excellent interview and talk by Eric Kaufmann, moderate of course from a Canadian academic, but inspiring because driven by facts and research. Highly recommended. ,

hmm , got to about 5:46 and went Naaaaaa. It might only be a very minority position, but the economic argument against mass net immigration was my reason for voting leave.

It is really important people say xenophobic when that is what they mean, rather than racism. Brexit was much more a xenophobic issue than racist (I'm a leaver). Do you think "we" should favour Anthony Joshua over a Frenchman? Yes. Because he's British.

he should learn to distinguish between 'race' and 'religion', or nationality;

How do you guy get all the most important intellectuals and politicians on to your show? Phenomenal work chaps and a great interview!

The supreme court does a great deal of damage by interfering with culture-war votes. That's not the problem in Britain but certainly in the USA.

It's hard to decouple "bad" racism (discrimination against out groups) from "benign" racism (in group affinity) when you have a lot of interactions between groups. Maintaining an ethnic majority entails some discrimination against other groups in order to maintain an internal environment where there are fewer inter-group interactions and less "bad" racism. It's kind of impossible not to be a little racist at some level of the process.

I love the show guys, but do you ask the experts as you have trouble when trying to read? I would recommend looking up the text of Trump's speech