Replacing Studs the 'Easy Way' -EricTheCarGuy

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10 жыл бұрын

I've been asked to make this video for some time and I was just waiting for a vehicle to come in that needed new studs. Well, not only did I get one in that needed a new stud, but it needed 2 studs. This doubles our fun for this video. The principal was the same for both studs. Some of you might not agree with this method and that's OK. But I can say that I've done it this way for many years and have not had one come back yet for an issue. However, if you feel you don't want to employ this method, you can remove the axle nut, slide hammer the hub out of the bearing, replace the stud on the bench, press the hub back into the bearing, and hope your bearing doesn't go bad as a result of separating it. Either way works. Here's some links to some tools you might find useful that were mentioned in the video.
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@davidlawhon7506 8 жыл бұрын

I just replaced studs on a 02 ford explorer, the studs I bought came with the heads shaved on one side. Just as you did. The ones I removed from the factory was the same way, So, I guess your right up there with Ford. Thanks for the video

@philr9407 7 жыл бұрын

☺

@amadotacu3707 7 жыл бұрын

David Lawhon lol.....Ford certified ehhh

@r0wdyn3ss 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe Ill get lucky then.

@RedSnakeGT500 4 жыл бұрын

"I guess your right up there with Ford" That is a low bar, my friend.

@cjwherley 4 жыл бұрын

RedSnakeGT500 b

@chingonr 9 жыл бұрын

Done this plenty of times, never had a problem...those of you that are complaining he mentioned many times this is ONE way of doing it without having to remove the wheel hub and replacing the wheel bearing, not everybody has the luxury and replacing every at once for a simple stud, this method is not dangerous.

@MrFredboy 9 жыл бұрын

Recr Actually, that isn't true. This probably won't be, but CAN be dangerous. The shoulder on those studs is all that keeps them from pulling through the hub. On 2 studs, it isn't a huge no no, but if you're doing all 5, find another way, because that's when it becomes dangerous.

@mja9001 6 жыл бұрын

Never had a problem YET.. removing 25% of the retention part of the nut that holds the wheel on is dangerous..

@CharlesCarabott 5 жыл бұрын

@@mja9001 I would think that the force is sideways not outwards so I wouldn't think it's that dangerious

@dg-xr3gc 5 жыл бұрын

"We don't want to mess up the threads that's why we're here" continues to hammer the shit out of the stud as it's going in at an angle.

@MicroSoftner 3 жыл бұрын

lol

@UltimateSteevil 3 жыл бұрын

as a stud myself? i can confirm that chicks love it when you hammer at an angle. :P

@subele_music 3 жыл бұрын

its ok they only got booger’d up a little

@DesignatedName 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing 😂😂😂😂😂

@Bones12x2 10 жыл бұрын

I'm lucky I guess, I just replaced a stud on my car and I had enough to get the full length stud back in with no problem. But my grumpy old neighbor did call the cops on me cause of the noose from hammering it in. It was only one stud and the hammering lasted for no more than 5 minutes. Stupid old man.

@ramanpreciado2241 4 жыл бұрын

Wow I'm on day two of hammering my rusted in stud. My neighbor did came by though today.....he offered to help me with any tools he had. Great man 😅 sorry to hear yours is messed up.

@roberteberhart1139 3 жыл бұрын

Yup! And I'll call um again on ya too. Young whippersnapper

@owenfranklin814 3 жыл бұрын

Lol the guy next door always helps with tools or to borrow his jack, sorry bro

@rswindello 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been hammering the new one in for 30 minutes. Feeling bad for my neighbors

@DefendTheStar 3 жыл бұрын

You'd think an older gentleman would appreciate someone working on their own car.

@henrietn 10 жыл бұрын

Like eric said, this is the easy way. A lot of people freaking out here. Some people actually look at the cost of repairs, and this way is much less time consuming and cost effective, if the customer so demands it. If he wants the replacement done the normal way, it will be more expensive. Besides, Eric is just putting up a video that youtubers asked for...

@provostkhot 10 жыл бұрын

Freaking out? Man, someone who talks about work ethics shows a video in which he deliberately breaks one thing to fix another? Really? It's not about weather it works or not, it's about sloppy bodged work. We're waiting for a reapir video made entirely on "zipties", I mean who cares about actually doint it the right way.

@ericthecarguy 10 жыл бұрын

provostkhot This is not 'sloppy' or 'botched', the method works and in the right application I have no problem doing it and have never had a problem with this in the many years that I've done it. I think you should focus more on the idiot that cross threaded the lug in the first place rather than demonizing me for fixing it.

@henrietn 10 жыл бұрын

EricTheCarGuy hit the nail on the head right there!

@rubenvarela4077 6 жыл бұрын

Hendrik Derudder yupppppp

@kaineshorts1783 Жыл бұрын

@@ericthecarguyhow’s it going eric i have to replace some studs on my car do i need to replace all of them?

@toconnx 10 жыл бұрын

When I insert my new wheel stud, I like to throw the stud in the freezer and hit the hub with a heat gun for a few minutes. Those small bits of thermal expansion / contraction make all the difference

@barrymckinley2292 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks to your tips here, I was able to do this myself and save myself about $300(The tire shops I called all said about $150 per stud!!! That's insane!!! It literally takes longer to take the brakes apart than it does to remove and install a new stud. Thanks again!!

@Inline3speedy 2 жыл бұрын

it's so fucking funny because these mechanics are usually the one who over torque studs and we end up going back to them again for fucking 300$? No thanks, I'll rather do it myself and learn something new.

@silveravnt 2 жыл бұрын

The dealer quoted me $615.05 because they said the bearing had to be replaced on a 2000 honda odyssey and it's pressed in so the whole knuckle has to come off.

@kenlemmond673 Жыл бұрын

Just used your tip to replace the two front wheel studs on a 2006 CRV. The hardest part for me was trying to hammer the new stud thru the hub. Gotta check out one of those air hammers from Harbor Freight! Thanks again for the help. You're one of my most trusted resources on KZfaq! Keep up the good work!

@sixtyfiveford 10 жыл бұрын

I have done this and it is a good reasonable method. Even with the missing portion on the back of the stud there is no way you would be able to draw it through the hub before the threads gave out.

@EpicHeroSandwich 10 жыл бұрын

or before the hub gave out for that matter.

@estrelladelnorte1308 10 жыл бұрын

well... i think thats is better and stronger than driving with NO stud at all , think is great that eric is honest and he is there trying to save money for his customers , other mechanics would have recomend changing the hub, brake pads , brake caliper,bearing,axle, transmission and maybe the engine for a broken stud!!! ( if you know what i mean with this) What eric just did made the car safer that what it was before.Gracias eric

@eastoahu 10 жыл бұрын

Wow @ all the people bashing Eric for this... I really think its these kinds of videos that you learn things from. Factory service manuals don't show you these kinds of things. Thanks Eric!!!

@joshuacarrasco6012 4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@mrbreezeet1 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuacarrasco6012 yeah, it is just fine grinding the flat into the back of the stud. I've done it too. I have even seen factory studs with the flat already machined away.

@bmxpeter8 9 жыл бұрын

Makes me laugh those who complaint about this method clearly never worked on old used car someone wanted fixed on a budget (which is the type of job 90% of independent garages live off). Its not the type of procedure you do on a brand new Audi, Eric knows it... its something you do on a 1998 Sunfire that someone use as a winter beater. and I'm ready to bet that those stud wont ever go anywhere.

@ariso 7 жыл бұрын

The customer paid for 2 new studs, one of which was broken, and the other one had damage threads. They were then replaced with 2 studs with damaged threads. Plus, he spent time polishing threads and grinding down the studs. He should have just removed the hub.

@eurobeatmachinist732 7 жыл бұрын

Aris Oglesby Grinding took about 10s, If you can remove a hub and replace the bearing in that time just go ahead and do it.

@headphonesnotincluded1700 7 жыл бұрын

But still. At least do it the right fucking way. It takes less time and less effort to do it the right way, than it does this way.

@amadotacu3707 7 жыл бұрын

Pierre Gauthier preach

@georgeghneim 7 жыл бұрын

@richardsquires6534 8 жыл бұрын

Replacement lug studs usually come with a "D" shaped base for easy installation. And Eric, if you air chizzel that flap that you cut, you can probably drive that stud home without thread damage. Isuzu used to pay 6 hours io replace the studs on all 4 corners. Those were happy days! ; )

@WorkableWax Жыл бұрын

Box truck or light suv?

@jamisgood21 10 жыл бұрын

THanks for yet another great video Eric! Wish i woulda watched this a few years ago when we did a few studs on my buddy's car. This is the method i will certainly use next time i need to do this. Surprised i didn't think of it earlier. As always, LOVE your vids man. Don't ever stop.

@davesippel914 Жыл бұрын

I’m grateful for this video today. I changed out a broken lug on my son’s 2008 Honda Fit. I used this method and it worked perfectly. Another guy online removed the entire knuckle and needed a hydraulic press to finish the job. I was done in about 15 minutes. Thanks!

@steveaverbach164 9 жыл бұрын

Eric knows his stuff his advice has been extremely valuable in repairing our Acura CL Captive Rotor and wheel bearings!

@DJzSith 10 жыл бұрын

This works 100% and is much quicker, easier and minimizes risk of damaging something. That being said, I would inform the customer about the costs of taking of the knuckle and doing it properly and hope he would accept, before pulling off this sort of improvisation on his car.

@edwinreeves6506 2 жыл бұрын

My only concern is ,would it still pass a state safety inspection. My state ( Missouri) still requires inspections.

@stevehillier7018 6 жыл бұрын

The man has been completely open and honest so I don’t see any problem. Keep up the good work Eric

@MrSnowmobilefreak 9 жыл бұрын

Eric, thank you for leaving your videos relatively unedited, its those things that make me chuckle that make your videos just that much better!

@domari9459 10 жыл бұрын

Brilliant Eric. I'm an IT guy who does my own car stuff in the backyard and garage, and everywhere I can access without aggravating others. ;) Your methods are spot on. They are great for guys(and girls) who work on their own cars, and for pro's as well. A whole world of making my own tools has opened up to me by watching your videos. Keep up the good work mate(I'm from down under) :D

@ThisDoesNotCompute 10 жыл бұрын

Yes, this method works. But honestly, if I was paying a shop to replace a stud on my car and they did this without asking first, I'd find it very unprofessional.

@TheRick2130 10 жыл бұрын

with that kind of hub bearing there's 90% chance you wont be able to remove without damaging the bearing.. as soon as you pull the flange and the bearing race came off that's another $$$ specially on honda,toyota that a freaking big $$$

@ThisDoesNotCompute 10 жыл бұрын

Oh I agree, just saying that if anyone is getting paid to do this kind of work, they should be upfront with the customer about exactly what they plan to do. It's like going to the dentist to get a cavity filled and they decide to just pull the whole tooth because it's faster/easier/cheaper. In this case, eliminating the risk of damaging the bearing comes at the cost of a cut-up splash shield and a weakened wheel stud (since part of the head gets ground off).

@user-nl9ne5gk6k 6 жыл бұрын

the bearings aren't all that expensive when you get parts through a real parts supplier, and not from a schlep boiz or autobone! lol

@sunsweetsuitable593 6 жыл бұрын

this is why you never go in the work bay area

@mopar0IIII0jeep 6 жыл бұрын

At $100+ an hour for shop time the alternative will cost the customer a couple hundred extra bucks for no real benefit. The more of a pain in the ass a job is the more it costs the customer.

@Quake3DeathGod 5 жыл бұрын

I totally appreciate this video! It is a massive money saver on a Honda fit! What would have taken me $400 at a shop or two days in 17 degree weather, took me about 30 minutes. Thanks again for the video, keep up the good work.

@josephmckinney4816 2 жыл бұрын

About to do this with my 2012 Honda Fit. I'm so glad to see your comment on this.

@Hachiro 7 ай бұрын

@@josephmckinney4816 2008 for me! Doubt I cross threaded the last one, more likely that I over tightened it. Too bad it didn't happen to one of the rear studs, cause the whole hub is super easy to replace.

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@fractal4284 5 жыл бұрын

All the people complaining this is obviously a work around it's clearly obvious that the client/customer probably couldn't afford the extra labor for the bigger job if this method solves it it doesn't hurt anything

@davelowell3008 8 жыл бұрын

For that type of vehicle, if it's yours. That's the best way to go. I'm sure owners of similar vehicles appreciate this vid.

@davidbrennan5 7 жыл бұрын

This is what I call a rough and ready repair. It is not pretty but it works and the car is fixed quickly.

@Hole_Motorsports 3 жыл бұрын

This is what I call a lazy hack job

@danielmoore17 4 жыл бұрын

That's great! I wouldn't do this on my nice car, but I just snapped a stud on my winter beater, time to bust out the grinder. Thanks bro

@tviele1 10 жыл бұрын

good video...shortcuts i have used many times...quite a few studs come from the factory with a portion already flat spotted for clearance issues... when drawing a stud in with a lug nut i would recommend lubricating the threads to prevent damaging them with the high load you put on them trying to force them in...

@homeboy391 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thanks Eric. I needed this video cause I had no idea how to replace the stud on my 06 Sonata without removing the wheel assembly, which is quite a chore. Some have commented that if a professional shop did this they would be upset. Honestly, if a professional shop use this method and it will resulted in less labor hours and parts for me then I wouldn't mind at all. I'll definitely invest in an air hammer. Thanks again!

@treydogg77 4 жыл бұрын

Take a angle grinder and bevel that hub guard more. Less likely to damage the threads on the new studs. Nice shortcut I like it a lot!

@crawfordoverton7786 10 жыл бұрын

I found using a few flat washers and your lug nut tighten the nut against the flat washer pulling in stud flush. I have used this with a great deal of success never a failure.

@winstonbuzon 10 жыл бұрын

A few? How about one big but strong one? This method sounds good, but would that mean you'd need a longer stud?

@dohnjoe9324 5 жыл бұрын

Good idea ill try that i have big washers that will work perfect! I aint buying no power hammer tool ;)

@FragItAll 5 жыл бұрын

I've done it this way (with washers), works for me.

@dylandrumhero6 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip man! I gotta get new studs and start this project ASAP, just snapped a couple lugs putting my summer wheels back on.

@pcofranc 5 жыл бұрын

I loved the method of driving the stud with the impact hammer! Never though of doing that - although the "hammer head?" driving bit never seems to be included with harbor freight tools only the chisel bits. Have rarely replaced studs and have never had to trim the dust cover (just bent it) but THANK YOU for showing a car where that is necessary AND where the head of the stud needed to be clipped to get it installed. There is 5 studs on the wheel no way shaving the head will ever matter - but if it matters then take the wheel off and risk replacing the bearings - it's the mechanics choice :-). Finally, I have always used the lug nut to install the studs: 1. Grease or anti-seize the vertical grooves 2. hammer the back to get things started 3. power on with the air gun as you hammer the back of the stud to "help it" into the hole. However, I never liked doing this method because of the strain it puts on the lug nut & the new stud. Now I have a new and better way to mount the stud and I still thing greasing the vertical grooves helps with the install even with your method - THANKS!!

@NigOleBigger 7 жыл бұрын

"You don't want to booger up the threads" proceeds to bang it through the hub

@bossmaine601 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

@elmecanico4943 4 жыл бұрын

I would put grease on the threads and hole where stud goes in.. To minimize damage..

@specialed618 4 жыл бұрын

At least he owned up to it lol

@juliansaiz5714 4 жыл бұрын

Lmfao yo

@MichaelMantion 10 жыл бұрын

I changed 2 lugs on my sequoia, I didn't have to cut anything to get access. That said when I put the lug in I froze it in my chest freezer for a week. I am sure a day would do the same thing. I cleaned up the hub a bit and the lug slid in with some washers and a lug nut. took almost no effort. I will say that I tried it another time w/o freezing it, I got it but it was much, much harder. I am often amazed how much steal shrinks at -20f, which is what my chest freezer is at. I guess if you really wanted you could use dry ice to get even lower, but that is $$$. I have used dry ice to get transmission bearings into place but I wouldn't waste the money on lugs.

@LH81633 3 жыл бұрын

Issue is the length not fit! No room to remove insert unlike other manufacturers that put at least one hole so that you can pound it out and easily put in the new one!!!

@latitudemarine4975 7 жыл бұрын

Definitely going to use this method on my 2012 sentra. It couldn't be any more unsafe than driving around on 3 studs and I don't have the money to replace bearings and cv axles. Thanks for the vid.

@twx895 10 жыл бұрын

A suggestion that I have, coming from a manufacturing background, with having cut threads a lot, and fixing messed up ones, when ever I had to fix old threads, I would just take a thread die to them and recut the same size thread, that always worked for me, so I do the same with my automotive work and never have any issues after I do that

@jsnjud 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. After watching it, I was expecting the worst on my 2010 Honda civic. Luckily, they designed it with a convenient hole in the shield to pop the old one out and put the new one in without having to grind or cut anything.

@thesilentdiva Жыл бұрын

I love Honda, so practical

@jayohhhohhh2875 4 жыл бұрын

This doesn't look easy at all

@unclematt3 4 жыл бұрын

This is a small, easy fix that helps avoid a lot of time and expense. It's doable for a guy in his driveway. Thank you for showing this.

@izyb478 3 жыл бұрын

I did somewhat the same on me 06 civic si front end. Bent the shield back in the smaller area and cut the cross threaded studs that was so very nicely messed up by tires plus and grinded the side as you did . Not flat though. Needed an angle to slip it in with the use of a 2lb 🔨.fyi tires plus has lost my any business in the future. It will be the 2nd time they do this to the same car. Thanks Eric. I have worked on a 93 accord and my 8th gen civic because you are one of the people out there which have been able to help me gain the confidence to get dirty and make it happen for myself.

@tyree9055 3 жыл бұрын

Thankfully I've not had to deal with engineering this bad regarding wheel studs. But once the splines are aligned and it's close to being fully seated, I just torque it down when I put the wheel on. Stay Dirty & Studly! 😄

@TrojanHorse1959 10 жыл бұрын

Eric, When "pulling" a stud back in, try using a larger nut or stack of flat washers for your old nut to pull against instead of directly against the hub. It helps keep the stud from wanting to twist. Also lubricate the threads and the washers or larger nut contact areas to reduce the friction. It works for me when I cannot get an air hammer to the back of the new studs to drive them in.

@johnlagreca6288 2 жыл бұрын

The air chisel works too.

@ShelleyYbarra Жыл бұрын

What do I do when the washer become stuck on the stud?

@armchairtin-kicker503 Жыл бұрын

There is a tool for installing studs: Lisle 22800 Wheel Stud Installer.

@benhyzy3662 Жыл бұрын

@@ShelleyYbarramust have been too small of a washer. You’ll have to break it off, try heat.

@benhyzy3662 Жыл бұрын

I used the closed end of a 1/2 combination wrench (didn’t have enough washers laying around the garage)

@gruberhoffman 2 жыл бұрын

I know that this video is almost nine years old but I was looking for a way to replace a damaged wheel stud on my 2003 CRV. It looked like there could be many additional problems stripping everything off. I will certainly check this out. Thank you for showing a possible work around.

@illusmode 10 жыл бұрын

EricTheCarGuy, Thank you! I have a 2001 acura CL and replaced a stud using this method. Worked! I don't have air tools and it took me a few tries. But i just used a hammer, nail set kit (used to countersink finishing nails), bench grinder, vise grip pliers, rachet, rope to tie caliper, and sockets. The nail set kit worked really well to punch the stud out (I was lucky enough that my stud broke short enough that i could punch it out.). I'd say maybe a punch would work better, but i thought this tool would be useful down the line in household work. Anyways, thanks again.

@random12345457 6 жыл бұрын

oh my goodness that air hammer is amazing

@Jademyheart 3 жыл бұрын

Yep,💯👍 that's MaC for ya😉

@jasonardenyi1036 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, verry nice

@dougpenn814 2 жыл бұрын

Đirt diger hamberger job not even if it was free sorry

@andrewmayhue 10 жыл бұрын

Eric great video!! I have been a mechanic for thirteen years I have done this numerous times NEVER had a problem. I wonder if those people who are complaining about your repair know the tensil strength or rockwell rating of a wheel stud look it up it may suprise you! !!

@th3b0yg 4 жыл бұрын

Not picking a fight, but what does Rockwell hardness have to do with it in this case? You're thinking something like if it's hard it'll be less likely to deform under load? But I agree with you that this repair is perfectly acceptable.

@bg147 10 жыл бұрын

Interesting technique and it seems reasonable to me. I would do it on my own vehicle, but I would explain it to a customer first. I might cut the stud shorter if possible without cutting it too short and repair the outer threads after the cut.

@johncornharvester 10 жыл бұрын

i've done this twice, on a honda accord and subaru forester, both worked great. would not hesitate to do it again, thanks eric.

@dhestondh 8 жыл бұрын

great video used it today on a prelude Eric ur the man bro love the videos

@boofdfast 8 жыл бұрын

What year prelude? Mine is an 89 Si 4ws, and it has two broken studs... What a pain the ass. Replaced two studs on my 81 280zx, took less than a half hour. Fwd SUCKS.

@CptMishMashVonRandom 10 жыл бұрын

You were going good until you beat it in there. It is possible while not damaging the stud at all. I do it by completely cutting out the piece as you did, then with a grinding stone I grind the surface of the knuckle back a tiny bit where the loose stud bumps it. You don't need much off, you just soften the sharp edge and the stud will fit straight in there. :)

@th3b0yg 4 жыл бұрын

Nice tip! Thanks!

@TheHaydenPlanetarium 8 жыл бұрын

I need replacing on my mustang gt. Every stud I tried Orilley's gave me would not sit flush or even go fully in. I didn't know what to think after the studs that are supposed to go in did not. After watching this video I saw that you might have to grind the stud top down just a bit to fit. after looking at the old one it had a clipped top. I did a little bit of grinding to make it like the old one and bam it fit. Make sure when putting it in it doesn't go in at an angle in the very beginning or else it won't fit.

@fPonias1 5 жыл бұрын

I'm really enjoying your videos. You seem to have a similar philosophy to mine in terms of doing things if they work even if the methods might be a bit unorthodox. I'm lucky my Honda has a hole in the shield that seemingly was designed for removing the stud. I was prepared for much worse.

@timothycwillis 7 жыл бұрын

this works fine. good job

@gitmoray1 10 жыл бұрын

I am sorry that so many people watch a free video that thinks outside the box, and all they can do is bitch and complain. I really like the fact that you do very detailed videos, with decent takes and closeups, and that you explain all the pros and cons as you did on this one. My only suggestion would be to throw the studs in the freezer after grinding them down. If you freeze them before insertion, they will go in a lot easier. You have saved my butt on several occasions already. Please keep doing these videos!

@mrbreezeet1 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah freezing the stud that's a good idea. As I mentioned before I think Eric said some may not agree with grinding that flat onto the back of the stud I've even seen studs in a car that were like that I don't know if it was factory or or they made it aftermarket like that for that reason but that studs not going anywhere with a little bit of that flat ground off what the heck?

@SergVargas 6 жыл бұрын

I was taught this method a long time ago. It's cool knowing that this is a common method

@fragmare 6 жыл бұрын

People talking smack about this procedure must not realize they sell pre-notched studs, like the one Eric made, for exactly this application. Also, a jamb nut or axel nut makes an excellent washer to put between a lugnut and the hub flange for pulling the stud through... never had one spin in the hub.

@nickb4302 10 жыл бұрын

Very heated debates on this video about torquing lug nuts. How hard is it really to pick up a torque wrench? Does it really save you that much time not using one?

@JustinCrediblename 9 жыл бұрын

Hmm let's see I've never had a problem not torquing my lug nuts. Same with so many other guys. what do you say about that? blind luck?

@christopherkatz9484 3 жыл бұрын

It is pretty hard to pick one up when you don't have one 😅

@tinydx95t2 10 жыл бұрын

I think that what you've done here is acceptable. I think that there is plenty of "meat" stud left on the stud head as you stated in the video.I've found that if you don't clean out the hole the stud will usually pull in without spinning using the lugnut method.

@christheother9088 8 жыл бұрын

Definitely would try this method. Anything to keep it out of a shop. I broke studs quite a bit back when I had my Tacoma. This of course was because when serviced they routinely over-torqued the lug nuts. Like mechanics apparently do everywhere, almost all the time. The Toyota's studs would break real easy with a four way. Took a breaker bar to break studs on my Ranger.

@itzchaparr0661 7 жыл бұрын

people actually getting mad by this method, i did this to my nissan like 4 yrs ago, and the wheel hasn't had any trouble :), Good job Eric save the customer some money

@vcdrny 10 жыл бұрын

I've done this many times on different vehicles and I guess I been lucky that I never ha to cut anything off. There is always a space to get the old ones out and the new ones in. Note to self stay away from older models Acuras RL.

@Mebob2001 10 жыл бұрын

for people thinking this would not work, you need to understand the mechanics beind it, the part that he did not grind off is trying to be pulled through the hole in the hub, there is so freaking way that is going to happen, the stud will snap before that happens, lug nuts will still have the same clamping force on them as before, nothing is weakened in this process, dont get me wrong i rather do it correctly but if it was my own car or truck, you better beleave i would do this, yes i am a tech like Eric but i work for Gm on diesel's

@Mebob2001 10 жыл бұрын

there ya go, people shouldnt saying anything hahah

@q...... 10 жыл бұрын

From my understanding the pull through force that it can take before the end snaps off is limited, and depending on which side is shaved off it can weaken it laterally to that side, but generally speaking the difference is not enough to make a huge difference.

@irishk5blazer 10 жыл бұрын

usdot has a rule on stud design a> you have taking the harding out of the stud by heating on the grinder b> you have cut a 1/3 of the strength away. C> that dust guard is there for a reason. but guess your right make it cheap screw doing it right and screw the threads up in the process

@mexskal 10 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha really hahahahah because he took one third to the stud u came to the conclusion that the took one third of the strength sure and the grinder didn't get it that hard to change anything because it needs to get way hotter to affect it and the ventilation shield was not affected because he did not cut the actual shield just one section which does not redirect air to the rotor due to the small size. u could consider it a inert section meaning honda could easily not include that section in the shield period so i don't know where u get ur info

@ThomasJoseph315 10 жыл бұрын

Hey, sometimes you got to do what you got to do, this works. I think there is bolts actually manufactured like that now. One thing I got from snap on was an extended flat head punch for things like this. Or take a sharp point and make it a nub, basically getting more surface area on the hit. Anyway good video! Thanks!

@ohmythatsweird 7 жыл бұрын

Half the people that thumbs down the video are the same people that wont pay the extra money to do it the proper way. If all mechanics went only buy factory spec,they would all be rich. This is clearly a work around for certain occasions .

@12101DyM 8 жыл бұрын

To draw the stud in without an air hammer just use the lug nut and and another nut that slides over the stud, but doesn't thread on.

@CCWSig 8 жыл бұрын

That's a incorrect way of doing it. That way will cause the stud to stretch and fatigue. Using a air hammer as shown, or a press is the only correct way.

@antoniomunoz280 7 жыл бұрын

An air impact is not incorrect, it's just another method of doing it. And an air hammer is another, neither methods are incorrect.

@CCWSig 7 жыл бұрын

You are incorrect. Using a impact can over torque the studs causing them to stretch, crack and ultimately fail. That's why there are torque wrenches, and published torque ratings for bolts. 150,000psi tensile strength sounds like a lot, but it really isn't, and is easily achievable with a quality impact gun.

@1stock1not 3 жыл бұрын

Did this today to my 7th gen ex front passenger side. If I break another one on that same side I already have a neat section cut out too. Thanks Eric

@MC-hs4mf 4 жыл бұрын

I was told the part that locks the stud is damaged and I should get the back side welded so weld the stud in. I was alsontood if there welding machine was working that would have just welded a stud in. Is flux core arc weld (fcaw) sufficient? Should I just tack weld the back or fully flux core weld the back of stud? I've had several studs break and I'm told because the stud cant lock in the back.

@henrybikeman 4 жыл бұрын

Pro tip for those worried about damaging the bearing while hammering out the broken stud: Leave wheel on ground and all good nuts tight. Drive broken stud back into hub using stiff punch. All the shock is taken within the wheel and tyre. Remove wheel and continue. I just did it with 2 good hammer blows, on a Toyota.

@MandrewP 10 жыл бұрын

Like Eric said, it's one way to do it. It's one option. And I believe that option has it's place. Anyone with any mechanical sense knows that this is not a structural weakness that endangers anybody or anything. We live in a real world with real considerations that need to be made. If someone has an old car that they need in order to stay employed and can't afford to replace the wheel bearing too, then this method is a blessing and saves the day. So why not? Those that say it's bad engineering need to get off their "high standards horse" and develop some consideration for their fellow man. We don't live in a perfect world. This option is perfectly viable and can be very beneficial to someone in need. In no way can anyone rightly say that this method is too dangerous or risky. It just ain't so! Now you may not want to do this on a new car, or to just save a rich guy some money, but it certainly has a place among the viable options for this kind of repair. It just plain cold hearted to ignore somebody's car repair dilemma for some irrelevant "high standards" crap. THAT'S what's stupid!

@Crabtownresller 2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@matthewstorm5188 2 жыл бұрын

@ MandrewP On the other hand, there are better ways of dealing with this sort of thing. For instance, you can get an entire hub/knuckle assembly from a self service salvage yard quite cheaply and just swap the whole thing out. Yes, you have to take the time to go to the junkyard. But this is pretty simple for a DIYer. And the knuckle swap can be done fairly quickly.

@MorrowSind 5 жыл бұрын

My mom had her car inspected and the mechanic forgot to tighten the lug nuts on the one tire after rotation. The car was making a strange noise 2 days later after she drove a 20 mile trip and back. I jacked the car up. The tire was wobbly, so I took it off, and two lug nuts fell out; both broken off. This method looks great to me. Thanks for the video.

@MorrowSind 5 жыл бұрын

The studs fell off with the lug nuts after I took the hub cap off. I forgot to mention that. It's late here.

@everettclunie3525 8 жыл бұрын

I put a stud on a car for the first time today. I used a lug nut to draw the stud back in but I put several washers between the lug and hub down the stud. that did the trick to keep the stud from spinning too much while I turned it with a big boy ratchet. It was an 09 Hyundai Sonata and I lucked out with being able to get the angle to slide the stud in from the back with out grinding or cutting anything. But thanks to this video I managed it, so thanks for sharing the easy way!

@miloman812 4 жыл бұрын

Dude really knows his shit. Love how fluently he speaks as well. Goes to show he really does know what he’s talking about. If I made this video, I’d be saying “uhmmmm” a lot

@andyshandyshop9207 4 жыл бұрын

It's a repair that I have done before, using the same method that he used. He done good! You don;t want to rebuild the entire hub assembly for a wheel stud!

@chocolate_squiggle 3 жыл бұрын

Whoah, I've never seen an air hammer before. That was awesome!

@pjkentucky 3 жыл бұрын

When I have the problem of not able to feed a stud in the hub due to no clearance with the backing plate,I use a hole saw to make a 3/4" hole in the backing plate so the old stud can be removed and the new stud installed. I then take a solid rubber grommet to plug the hole when I'm done.The time would about the same and you have a nice finish result.

@onogrirwin 4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, the customer has the money for the full procedure as specified in the manual. Great! Sometimes they have $82 and need their car back on the road to get to work. You going to help them or tell them to fuck off? That's why we do things like this. Different procedures for different situations.

@shodanxx 8 жыл бұрын

Why not dig a groove in the knuckle ? Grinding off 1/4" into the knuckle casting seems to me safer than removing 1/3" of the stud thrust surface.

@Bryce.H604 8 жыл бұрын

+shodanxx so instead of effecting an interference stud with a hubcentric wheel (takes load away from the studs). You what to score also heating a cast piece of the suspension, which will than shatter the first pot hole u hit hard. its not 100% proper yet customer didnt have to pay an extra $250 they probably didnt have

@shodanxx 8 жыл бұрын

The casting is about 1 inch thick at this location. You don't have to heat it, just grind a bit off. As long as you blend it smooth it will do nothing bad to the part. Castings work mostly in compression and most of the weight goes through the knuckle's central axis. This is nothing compared to what corrosion does to these parts yet they rarely break. Those studs hold just as much weight as the entire knuckle and they do it on that tiny face which just had 1/3 of its trust face grinded off. Way, way better to grind that off the knuckle rather than the studs.

@ferreiraaveiro3908 8 жыл бұрын

+shodanxx i was thinking about that

@BigBrotherIsTooBig 8 жыл бұрын

+shodanxx Think about it this way...that stud with 1/3 of its face ground off does more to hold on your wheel than a stud without a lug nut.

@shodanxx 8 жыл бұрын

BigBrotherIsTooBig It also does less than an intact stud.

@thegameroom7647 9 жыл бұрын

I used this method, it was basically the identical process and went off without a hitch. Thanks Eric!

@wingman1861 10 жыл бұрын

One of the many reason i still drive a 1gen dodge neon.the gap is already there to remove the wheel stud and you dont even have to remove the brake caliper. Its a good way to do it eric..dont listen to the haters.

@eastoahu 10 жыл бұрын

That is a horrible reason to justify having a dodge neon.

@dav3fk 10 жыл бұрын

You pick your car based on how well it caters to wheel stud replacement? I wouldn't drive a hunk of shit, just to make it easy to replace a part that should seldom need replacing, if ever.

@striker851 10 жыл бұрын

Eric, I love your videos and frequent out-of-the-box thinking. This video is a pretty big hack job, though. Cutting, messing up threads on a new stud, just not sure about it. But, thank you for your efforts and numerous videos.

@man_on_wheelz 8 жыл бұрын

A mechanic replaced a stud on my moms rear wheel during a more complicated job and apparently screwed up real bad. Some time later she tells me her car makes a popping sound sometimes when she's backing up, I couldn't figure it out right away. So some weeks later when I got the chance, I removed the brake drum to change the shoes and hardware and immediately I see there's a broken spring just floating around in the drum and the brake adjuster was all bent to shit. So I'm like what the fuck could have caused this nightmare?!?! I remove the backing springs and the pins are bent all out of whack, and as I'm removing the shoes, half a rusted stud comes tumbling out of the assembly. There you have it! Whoever she took it to to get that work that involved replacing a stud done, they just hammered it back into the drum assembly, was probably too lazy to take it apart and retrieve the old piece, put a new stud in, put the WRONG TYPE OF LUG NUT ON THE CAR and sent it on it's way. I wish she could remember who she took it to cause I'd drill them a new asshole for causing us all this trouble. Do you know how hard it is to get a new brake adjuster for a 2003 Mitsubishi Outlander?!?! Out of sheer luck I found 1, count 'em, ONE Outlander at the junk yard with the back drums laying dug into the ground. I had to pull a jack from another car to lift it a little to get the part out. In all the years she's owned that car I have never come across her car at the yard, it's actually a really well built car and reportedly seems to run forever.

@joeespinoza3981 7 жыл бұрын

people don't understand this method is wrong should not be taught thank God this guys mom didn't get hurt or worst

@mememan2344 2 жыл бұрын

89 honda civic here- and yeah. No way I'm taking the whole assembly off. Thank-you for saving me time and money.

@RADMAN752 6 жыл бұрын

I have an old 2000 sierra and this video taught me new methods that i need to know, thanks.

@danosleeper9294 6 жыл бұрын

Good shit! This is exactly how i do mine.good to know the world has some smart people left

@Mail4dalej 10 жыл бұрын

No problem. I'd pay for that vs. the $$$ alternative. Nice job thinking outside the box.

@laloreyes8221 8 жыл бұрын

this is what i needed thank you so much!

@eliseviv 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to Eric of the past. Your old vids are still the best. Ill be getting a thread file out later today. ;)

@dabruiser7938 6 жыл бұрын

Did the same thing on my 2008 Accord in the front passengers side. I had to grind some more metal between the hub assembly and the dust shield for clearance. 11k Miles later and no issues, and I have taken off that tire a few times since with no issues. This is a cost saver, and don’t worry to much about the metal not being strong enough after tapering the head of the bolt because it’s still better to have that than not to have a lug nut on it anyways. Godbless

@GloveBunniesVideos 10 жыл бұрын

A somewhat elegant solution to an obvious design flaw. ;-)

@tyree9055 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the automotive engineers f'ed up on that one. What were they thinking? I wouldn't buy a car where the engineering was this ignorant! 😅

@305bonddog 8 жыл бұрын

Eric im currently undergoing a clutch replacement on a 2012 Honda civic si and broke the wheel lock and broke a stud trying to relieve pressure off the wheel lock and get it out so i will have the entire wheel assembly out when i drop the subframe. When McGard sends the replacement lock and key ordered 2 JIC will i have to replace the entire wheel bearing or can i just replace the stud ?

@santiagodavila1426 2 жыл бұрын

Great video.. so what do I do if while tightening the new wheel studs they spinning..? 😩😩 I’m using hand tools, ratchet and a socket.!

@gvvq-pi5ml 10 жыл бұрын

Hi Eric, i worked in the trade for 45 years so i know what your up against and how you feel, at the end of the day would the owner want to pay you $300 to do it the other way, prob not, you got the job done with minimal damage, i cant see the stud ever pulling out...i too found it hard pulling through with a nut, air gun seems to do it better, lot of crap sent to you on these comments, maybe they would like to have a go at it...Fred uk.

@driftingdonuts 10 жыл бұрын

Can vouch for this method working well, did the exact same thing on my 95 Honda Civic. Worked well and was quick and easy.

@Rakatawhat 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Did this today on my civic. My steering knuckle looks ugly, but i don't care, i got 4 lug nuts now. jacked up the threads on the stud, but i was able to fix them enough that i can run down the nut by hand.

@LH81633 3 жыл бұрын

Huge job!!! I’ve had to do it two times already!! Can’t remove hub only you have to do entire bearing hub!!

@SnowNinja 10 жыл бұрын

Don't use an impact gun to tighten lugs on a car, you can lightly drive them on but do not impact them tight, use a torque wrench with the manufacturer specification to avoid doing this =)

@justsumguy2u 10 жыл бұрын

I dunno, Eric....seems to me like grinding a notch in the backing plate, grinding down the wheel stud and then still having to deal with boogered-up threads was just as much work as pulling the hub.

@rayzian 10 жыл бұрын

cheaper for customer though, price of 2 studs vs price of wheel bearing & hub assy

@dav3fk 10 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't even necessarially need bearings, which are not expensive. It would just take more time to remove the knuckle, press everything apart and back together, and get it all torqued right, etc. He could have modified the knuckle/dust guard more effectively and safely, but yeah, this was generally all the wrong way. And jesus, what was honda thinking?

@dav3fk 10 жыл бұрын

Sval Bard True. But that's not important for DIY'ers watching how to do this on youtube.

@atsernov 10 жыл бұрын

dav3fk I disagree more with re-using press in wheel bearings than I do with this. Plus, if you don't like the idea of grinding down studs, buy cliphead studs. ;) They are made with a flat spot if it makes you feel better. I will say, as long as the customer is told something like "I can do it the dealer way and charge you 2 hours, or I can do it my way and charge you 0.5" I'm fine with it. The stud is still plenty strong, and the backing plate is still secure. As long as the customer pays an according rate I'm good with this. I'd be just fine doing this to my car.

@dav3fk 10 жыл бұрын

atsernov I could be mis-understanding things..... but if it's like my car, I THINK all you need to do is unbolt the axle nut, and slip the hub off. No need to press out or replace the bearings at all, they're not interferance fit to the spindle, they're held on by the torque of the axle nut, they're just pressed into the hub.... right? Axle nut torque is very important (or the bearings have the wrong preload and eat themselves) and it's very important to use a new nut and cotter pin.... but still... Again, I could just be an idiot about it, or have forgotten the exact contents of this video.

@tedbonbrake1967 6 жыл бұрын

Ouch... I love your channel and most repairs shown are valid. I have actually done this repair on my personal cars a few times with no adverse effect. When you used the side of the grinder to make the flat on the lug though I had to cringe. My left tear duct just under my eye still carries a chip of a grinding wheel that exploded doing that exact thing. I was wearing safety glasses too, but when the bolt jumped just a little, I turned my head and when the explosion occurred, the fragment ricocheted off the bottom edge of the glasses and imbedded itself just under my eye. It looked like I had lost a bar room brawl for weeks. I still use the same method to this day, but wear a full face shield. A caution at this time in the video is warranted I think...

@jthresher78 6 жыл бұрын

Can't believe so many people get upset with this method. Nice idea, Eric. He clearly states not everyone may like it, but it is a viable alternative and some of us do work on old cars where what it looks like isn't all that important. Does anyone think some car manufacturers purposely design them this way in order to ramp up the cost and complexity of repairing them? I do. This is what's wrong with the engineering designs on newer cars and manufacturers don't care about the cost to customers, only the bottom line profit$.