Erin Fleming & Dick Cavett both auditioned for a stage-play called THE COUNTRY COUSIN.
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@aMiRtHeMaDmAn5 жыл бұрын
I just finished Steve Stoliar's audiobook rendition of Raised Eyebrows and maaaaaan his impression of Erin is spot on.
@michaelpowell68054 жыл бұрын
I think she gave him life force & the strength of her emotions for & towards him flattered as well as hurt. She was clearly a devoted fan. I hope they had more happiness than otherwise together. Both rest in peace. Shalom.
@S....2 жыл бұрын
You know she was abusing him?
@teenherofilms2 жыл бұрын
Michael Powell She totally fucked up his life, took all the money from him she could get and ended up killing herself.
@michaelpowell68052 жыл бұрын
@@teenherofilms Well that's certainly one way of looking at it....I recall in his Oscar acceptance he credited her with giving him a reason to carry on.... clearly not a healthy relationship....she indeed lived a sad life in many ways....rip both....
@nataliewilliams97416 ай бұрын
Erin was later accused of embezzlement by Groucho's kids. Psychological and sexual abuse were also claimed by friends and family. She was ordered by a court to repay his estate nearly $500,000.00. She ended up later being diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and was often homeless before she died. I'm afraid it wasn't the storybook tale with a happy ending you wish for. Groucho's friend and author, Sidney Sheldon even wrote a book 📖 about it, "The Stranger in the Mirror". It was made into a TV movie as well.
@anylawliet14736 ай бұрын
@@michaelpowell6805 you have different way to look at physical and emotional abuse? Like when the food was thrown at his face and a napkin was showed down his throat? So much for happiness
@animalntelligence3170 Жыл бұрын
It is worth reading about her and the relationship between the two of them. Not cut and dried -- she got into legal trouble and financial trouble over her dealings with Groucho, but it is certainly true that she extended his career. I think there is no question that she wanted to benefit financially from their association, but that is pretty common in such situations. Anyway, a very sad end for her -- Groucho made the mistake of getting old and sick and that would have happened with or without Fleming.
@allexx12311 жыл бұрын
I was around when all this nostalgia craze was happening in the 70's. Loved the Marx Bros best. Harpo was my favorite.
@davedee43822 жыл бұрын
She was according so many reports, using Groucho, stealing his money, doing drugs with her friends in Groucho’s home, she ended up, according to reports, as a crazy bag lady. She was an actress. She did have some legitimate acting roles.
@idkaboutthisfuckoffyoutube10412 жыл бұрын
I found out she tried to get his estate after he died she failed and became homeless and apparently killed her self
@TheTallMan507 жыл бұрын
Jeez! The look on Groucho's face at 3:30. It's so blatantly obvious that there is something terribly wrong here.
@dedbusted15 жыл бұрын
no, she's just insane. I dated a schizophrenic. She has the facial mannerisms for sure.
@jasminespencer39922 жыл бұрын
I think you’re right, she later became homeless and was institutionalized
@radiovixen76 Жыл бұрын
@@jasminespencer3992and then blew herself away.
@hungfao12 жыл бұрын
Her eyes --- 'Hi! I'm crazy!!'
@jamesfox25792 ай бұрын
Nutjob!😂
@masonldn86473 жыл бұрын
Her eyes scream DANGEROUS
@seanhaugh42328 жыл бұрын
Learned about this from Gilbert Gottfried & Frank Santopadre on the Amazing Colossal Podcast. They just ran an interview with Steve Stoliar who knew both Groucho & Erin.
@burton54ify8 жыл бұрын
+Sean Haugh Me too...lol.
@robuloid8 жыл бұрын
+Sean Haugh And then Danny Thomas showed up . . .
@brainsareus8 жыл бұрын
+Sean Haugh i could tell within five seconds,that she was a nut............ of the nasty variety. i'm hiding my glass coffee table.. ;)
@burton54ify8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a whole bunch o' crazy.
@TimBurVlogs8 жыл бұрын
+Sean Haugh best podcast ever!
@EvilSlyGuy10 жыл бұрын
Wish she just stayed in canada.. RIP Groucho!
@sliat19819 жыл бұрын
Get her ass oot of USA, eh?
@PankajKumar-ej5dt3 жыл бұрын
@@sliat1981 Actually her ass is not in America anymore. She committed suicide in 2003. Whatever she did she paid for them. I wouldn't hate her if i were you. Is it even ethical to hate ppl with mental issues?
@sliat19813 жыл бұрын
Pankaj Kumar so she’s buried in America. What she did to Groucho, yeah I hate her
@ritamarie29765 жыл бұрын
The secret word was “crazy”.the duck should have fallen within the first minute.
@Mikado88482 жыл бұрын
It was replaced by an axe.
@Rose-kp4ow3 жыл бұрын
So many different opinions on here about what we think we know based on stories written about Mr Marx. The only one who will ever know the truth is Mr Marx. RIP funny man, you made me laugh and entertained many, thank you 😊
@shinzu400113 жыл бұрын
@zkg Ordered it, as well as the Arce book. In the last few months I have read in order: Harpo Speaks, Groucho and Me, Hello, I must be Going, Growing up with Chico, and the expanded edition of My Life with Groucho, which had the Arthur's entire account of the legal battle with Erin. It was horrific. I immediately remembered these comments and wondered aloud how Chandler could have glossed over what was going on. I'm anxious to get the Stoliar and Arce books for comparison to Arthur's.
@thetruth3574 Жыл бұрын
When Groucho announces that being his secretary is "the euphemism of the year" he clearly wants the audience to believe that he is having sex with the woman. This is pathetic
@kolst840616 жыл бұрын
Please put up anything you have on Erin Fleming. It's fascinating to see her and Groucho together.
@akrenwinkle3 ай бұрын
I forgot which book I read this in, but... Erin and Groucho had a kerfuffle about Groucho's Cadillac, his favorite car. She wanted to sell it and he protested. Erin: "I will slap you from here to Pittsburgh."
@timothymoynihan80636 жыл бұрын
She wasn't bad looking but from what I heard from others, she was bat shit crazy.
@ArmyJames2 жыл бұрын
She was completely gross and weird looking.
@ADAMSIXTIES6 жыл бұрын
Airdate Dec. 16th, 1971. Behind every great man there's a woman. And behind her is his wife!
@TJ-kk5zf5 жыл бұрын
Yoko, Aline, Erin
@AndrewHeller-jn7dx4 ай бұрын
Who is: Aline-???
@TJ-kk5zf4 ай бұрын
@@AndrewHeller-jn7dx Crumb's talentless female leech... or Wolfe's, either way
@fonso10304 жыл бұрын
TheTallMan35 how about her face at 2:09? Did you ever see such a menacing way of looking at an old man?
@soylentteal4 жыл бұрын
Fleming was crazier than the Joker. She had more loose screws than a Yugo.
@joseantoniot93124 жыл бұрын
I have heard about that car " yugo" ,the rumours says it was a disaster
@zkg15 жыл бұрын
Everybody please read the memoir RAISED EYEBROWS by Steve Stoliar, one of Groucho's personal assistants in the mid-1970s. Erin Fleming was not the nicest of women.
@EternalHennessy11 жыл бұрын
After reading about her but seeing her here for the 1st time I'm actually underwhelmed by her here-looks, manner & wit. She has a frozen rigidity & plainess to her like an assembly line piece. Also that weird laugh she emits after saying the Groucho living legend line is genuinely odd...I replayed it a few times. Thank you for posting this. This is why I truly love KZfaq. To see all sorts of interesting things like this.
@TheMusicalJourneys7 жыл бұрын
I thought the part with Debbie was awkward, then Erin Fleming came out and it got even weirder.
@joeambrose32604 жыл бұрын
Who the phuck is Debbie ?
@joeambrose32604 жыл бұрын
@Matt Polzkill Thanks, where is she ? Didn't they remain on stage
@joeambrose32604 жыл бұрын
@Matt Polzkill Bet my life she was afraid of Erin
@Ledgeview13 жыл бұрын
she was "CRAZY to be in showbiz" she said
@Mikado88482 жыл бұрын
And crazier when she wasn't.
@Mikado88482 жыл бұрын
"I was crazy to be in show business."
@masonldn86473 жыл бұрын
The greeting was so respectful I just felt like beinva better person towards others
@ArmyJames2 жыл бұрын
?
@rondj196511 жыл бұрын
Yep, beeroosterm, you got that right. You could tell she was a few sandwiches shy of a picnic right here in THIS video, when she was still fairly young.
@MetalGearKelan14 жыл бұрын
I had never heard of Erin Fleming until recently. Having read stuff about her, she does not sound like a nice person. Also, I don't like the way she looks at Groucho in this video, very unsettling.
@erictheking974 жыл бұрын
God if looks could kill 2:06
@eleanorsendeavors292 жыл бұрын
Groucho - "I'm glad she's running" Erin's fake laugh and then - "You'll pay for that wisecrack, Buster"
@Ledgeview13 жыл бұрын
@Lampshade51 thanks...very insightful
@kolst840616 жыл бұрын
Groucho doesn't seem particularly fond of her.
@UpBeatGuykj9 жыл бұрын
Groucho Marx is everything
@JeffGR413 жыл бұрын
@coloren1 I strongly disagree. I think Dick Cavett was a brilliant host and very engaging. David Letterman is pretty good, but he (and most everybody else) can't attain Cavett's caliber.
@danieljordan22852 жыл бұрын
The tone and cadence of Erin speaking is eerily similar to the tone and cadence of Sandra Goode and Lynette Fromme when they are defending Charles Manson. I think she would have fit right in with Manson women.
@ArmyJames2 жыл бұрын
Manson would have killed her for simply being annoying.
@olensoifer99018 жыл бұрын
Considering all of the comment about how crazy Ms. Fleming was...on still has to consider whether her abuse of him was not more than offset by her efforts to revive him and his career. If not for her, he would not be known to a lot of the younger generation. Arthur Marx has his own issues with his father for years. Don't think that family is automatically more caring than strangers. "Loving" Arthur Marx was less than sympathic to his father and Groucho's daughter was an alcoholic, etc. Read about Mickey Rooney's last years if you want to be sickened in regard to how bad family can be. Even if Fleming had her own interests at heart, and Groucho was losing it at the end, it doesn't look to me that he was miserable, regardless of what anyone says. And plenty of people, including Geo. Burns testified for Fleming, while Marx's pretty disgusting children won the legal case. The whole thing is pretty despicable, and certainly not all Fleming's fault.
@finnibertlunchiken77925 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this story of Fleming and from what Im gathering you cant have a total witch with people still saying good things about her at the same time. She may have been somewhat flaky but people are complex and more than 2 dimensional. I think she may have been misjudged and done good things, in spite of the criticism. When people are after money they can become pretty bloodthirsty. Ive seen families torn apart by estates and wills. Very ugly to see. It's very sad what happened to her.
@joeychiarolanza63105 жыл бұрын
Groucho was never losing it
@PankajKumar-ej5dt3 жыл бұрын
@@finnibertlunchiken7792 Yeah. Sadly. I don't see how anybody can hate her now. She clearly had mental issues as she was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. But how can ppl hate somebody with mental issues it's beyond me.
@user-kz9ot4zv5e3 жыл бұрын
@@PankajKumar-ej5dt She had such a sad ending to her life.
@anylawliet14736 ай бұрын
@@PankajKumar-ej5dt mental illness doesn't always justify the things you're doing... And doesn't make immediately likable
@magicalpoop14 жыл бұрын
Man I just saw her in Woody Allen's 'Everything you wanted to know about Sex (but were too afraid to ask)' - wow she was hot in the infamous scene involving her. Too bad after reading her profile/bio...she's your hollywood B- movie crazy lady who takes control of some old guy.
@REDHAIREDMONSTER15 жыл бұрын
for sure!
@zapkvr15 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% but Groucho did hismelf no favors in this department, he was an apalling judge of women. He was so in aw of his mother for his entire life he could never replace her. When he married Kay he used to run her down terrinly. Much as I admire Groucho and his wonderful legacy, he definetly had a problem regarding women as equals.
@joeambrose32604 жыл бұрын
I find the excessive use of the word appalling absolutely appalling.
@mouschter14 жыл бұрын
She has an uncanny resemblance to Susan Atkins....
@smscamp12 жыл бұрын
Groucho married Women solely for their looks, like certain Women marry men soley for their money. It was not treating women as equals that was the problem is that he did what so many Women do who mistreat Men, not with physical abuse, but with verbal abuse
@rondobson18283 жыл бұрын
Something really off about her. I suspect she was using him to get the spotlight and enrich herself.
@Mikado88482 жыл бұрын
Read up on her. That's like suspecting the sun is hot.
@ArmyJames2 жыл бұрын
DO YUH THINK SO????? DUH.
@akrenwinkle3 ай бұрын
Nothing gets past you.
@bobbypaluga43469 жыл бұрын
When she walked in Groucho expected a hug and kiss but she does an end run.
@geot46478 жыл бұрын
+Bobby Paluga Looks like he might have just been standing up out of courtesy, holding a drink, etc. I think she was good looking, psycho or not.
@drawnhere11 жыл бұрын
What an odd tone this woman has. Bizarre. She has a weird, sing-songy creepiness to her.
@Chridder51512 жыл бұрын
When did this interview air? 2-21-1972?
@oobah215 жыл бұрын
maybe it's just me, but I dunno, the way she blinks and moves her face around, it almost looks like she has a nervous twitch or something. like a little "off".
@itsaguinness15 жыл бұрын
6:20 alka-seltzer?
@ABStrange112 жыл бұрын
It turns out Erin Fleming was bat-sh*t crazy.
@marke36636 жыл бұрын
ABStrange1
@rondj196511 жыл бұрын
Sex as a weapon. How low can you get. No wonder she died alone and homeless. You get what you give in life.
@rgoddess16 жыл бұрын
Ronnie DJ- Amen, I am a firm believer of what goes around comes around.
@dogman41005 жыл бұрын
What does the clock say? KOO! KOO! KOO! KOO!
@stokepogue15 жыл бұрын
Suddenly, the show's not that funny
@alexiscole198214 жыл бұрын
Can i just say that i read his most popular book written by charlotte chandler and he really needed erin in his life family and others will always speculate relationships they don't understand!! It seems a very sad way for her to die like that... and i really think people should remember noone but the two people in the relationship know the whole truth, this is the media guys and we should not know every aspect to their relationships its about groucho marx and his talent!!
@bluegrassfan84264 жыл бұрын
this was painful to watch on many levels.
@AventuraLuver11 жыл бұрын
Groucho seems so out of it here :( I wonder what year this was.
@CMRinehart7 жыл бұрын
This is the lunatic who became Groucho's housekeeper, then took over his life. In a bad way. She controlled what he did and who could see him.
@kingoftheseamusic11 жыл бұрын
very uneasy watching this Groucho was trapped
@holden19016 жыл бұрын
Erin committed suicide in a psych hospital in Canada a few years back,
@joeambrose32604 жыл бұрын
Wiki says assisted living place in Los Angeles
@TheMusicalJourneys7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they'd bring out the one who helps him with his fan ma and interview her, actress or not, plus when she suddenly came out and sang with him that seemed odd.
@finnibertlunchiken77925 жыл бұрын
Thats what I thought too. You dont bring out someone who isnt vital to the persons career and even then you think they'd be well known or why else would people be interested for 10 seconds?
@radiovixen76 Жыл бұрын
She became his manager and pretty much ran the show
@EdVidz14 жыл бұрын
@alexiscole1982 You got it my friend. Not many do, for this you should be grateful.
@masonldn86473 жыл бұрын
I hear she drained him . Well we know she got sued and lost in the end so I believe it
@BillyBronco736 жыл бұрын
She is quite clearly suffering from mental illness. I think most of Groucho's partners had issues of one sort or another.
@yankee26665 жыл бұрын
Alcohol issues. Alcohol's a killer. Happy New Year - drink up.
@Happy-Me.5 жыл бұрын
All Groucho's women drank and the last one was definitely a Borderline!
@laramaui41144 жыл бұрын
Which others were crazy? This one is scary-seriously.
@stmichl94334 жыл бұрын
Lara Maui the last one was totally insane and abused him horribly.
@stmichl94334 жыл бұрын
I would've loved to be Groucho's secretary and just answer the fan mail!!!!! Those kinds of cushy jobs don't exist anymore. I loved it when Hollywood stars had assistants who just did fan mail or dressed them or that kind of thing. Kind of like fabulous stage hands with walk-on parts.
@SuperRickyRocket12 жыл бұрын
She must be hearing voices in her head And Grouch just knows better He He He
@pdconaway102410 жыл бұрын
In the end Erin Fleming committed suicide by gun.
@wheelinthesky3006 жыл бұрын
30 years too late.
@zacredman91373 жыл бұрын
@@wheelinthesky300 Exactly!!!🙄😂👍
@OldManTomJulio4 жыл бұрын
Here because of Rob Zombie and Joe Rogan.
@waynedoyle55844 жыл бұрын
you should check out on youtube .....Steve Stoliar Discusses GROUCHO MARX On Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast! (12/2015).....much more details about erin and you will laugh til you cry ...trust me
@salvagemonster36122 жыл бұрын
And she committed suicide in 2003 because she was nuts
@thefakenewsnetwork80722 жыл бұрын
Long live communism and freedom
@johnchannetshow13 жыл бұрын
She was beautifful...............
@zacredman91373 жыл бұрын
No she wasn't!!!🤮👍
@dlawlis3 жыл бұрын
This is awkward and cringeworthy.
@REDHAIREDMONSTER15 жыл бұрын
I think that one hideous shot of her shows more of her than any of this
@LenHummelChannel11 жыл бұрын
That's the way I see it too. you want to pile of seriously BAD karma ? Disrespect your elders and especially use and disrespect your benefactor/s. she knew she could use Groucho, ... and did so to the hilt.
@KellyGreen555513 жыл бұрын
@JeffGR4 Dick Cavett was good, but David Letterman has no modern peer. Letterman is bloody brilliant and terrifically funny.
@wheelinthesky3006 жыл бұрын
I'd feel safer if Charles Manson was my companion.
@slogroove10 жыл бұрын
Goodness! Such hateful remarks directed toward the dead ! Erin Fleming may have been a victim of one of the world's oldest scenarios: Aging men seeking younger women for adoration and companionship, and younger women seeking older men for comfort, and a fast track to stardom. It appears she may have ultimately succumb to the hate and vitriol. Not sure if she deserved it.
@BUSTER.BRATAMUS9 жыл бұрын
sorry IDIOT she abused Groucho for years..wake up.
@joeychiarolanza63105 жыл бұрын
She was a Loon
@zacredman91373 жыл бұрын
She deserves every one of them!!!🤬🤣👍👍👍
@slogroove3 жыл бұрын
Funny how I’m getting replies for a remark posted six years ago suggesting there are two sides to each story. Wonder how many people proclaiming Groucho’s innocence would be more than willing to pick up a tiki torch and join an angry throng to shout “Jews will not replace us”. Gotta love the US of A. Such hypocrisy !
@zacredman91373 жыл бұрын
After watching this It's very plain to see that poor Groucho got treated like completel shit!!!🤔 He was trying to get her to say something good about him the whole time, but all she could do was talk about herself!😐😣🤮👎🏻
@Hermes_457623 жыл бұрын
She knew what he liked
@zacredman91373 жыл бұрын
@@Hermes_45762 No, she just wanted to try and act like she knew what he liked!!!!!🙄🤔🤬💩👎🏻
@Hermes_457623 жыл бұрын
@@zacredman9137 I think Marx knows , but he still love her.
@zacredman91373 жыл бұрын
@@Hermes_45762Exactly!😣
@Hermes_457623 жыл бұрын
@@zacredman9137 Marx is a smart guy , I think he knows nobody can be totally honest, even himself. It's his choice anyway. Side note ,i think Marx and Erin really fit each other, just check the oscar ceremony , he literally said Erin can understand all his jokes.
@BikiniDeathSquad8 жыл бұрын
ugh that woman was insufferable
@zacredman91373 жыл бұрын
Disgusting B****!🙄🤔👎🏻
@markdaniels7174 Жыл бұрын
Even if I knew nothing about her relationship with Groucho, I’d still say she creeps me out based on looks and manner alone. There’s an emptiness in her eyes, something robotic and inhuman. It’s like she’s a cult member. Look at 2:09… doesn’t it seem like she’s an artificial person, studying humans and plotting her Sci-Fi takeover? The Fembots in Austin Powers had more authenticity.
@LouisLambert13 жыл бұрын
@zkg ...And there are various reasons for that! X-D Oh, Hollywood: I hardly knew ye (ossum)!@#
@frankfeldman66576 жыл бұрын
monster
@zapkvr12 жыл бұрын
So many women treat men that way? Really? Seems to me you might have a bit of a complex yourself about it. Most of the women with whom I am acquainted are perfectly capable of treating men with respect provided they are treated the same way just as many men behave disrespectfully.
@laurastone65783 жыл бұрын
A government subsidy for actors & actresses? Go ---- yourself.
@fatbowe6 жыл бұрын
….only ACTORS SAY THERE SHOULD BE A gOVERNMENT SUBSIDY FOR ACTORS.... ...ONLY NOW ITS FOR EVERYONE...EXPECIALLY ILLEGALS....;;--)),,,,,,,,
@EternalHennessy11 жыл бұрын
My regrets that you are living in Wyoming land of Matthew Sheppards crucifixation,
@KellyGreen555513 жыл бұрын
@coloren1 You must be joking. Letterman is always grand and entertaining. However, poor Cavett is like a dripping faucet.
@shelaughs7 жыл бұрын
Whaaooow... Big, big cringy awkwardness. bleh!
@coloren114 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett had no personality. Just like David Letterman.
@markmed3125 жыл бұрын
Awkward !
@DCMA2476 жыл бұрын
Gilbert Gottfried & Howard Stern sent me!
@mouschter14 жыл бұрын
She has an uncanny resemblance to Susan Atkins....
@mouschter14 жыл бұрын
She has an uncanny resemblance to Susan Atkins....