Hi thanks for the review. I posted earlier asking about your pc specs but have deleted after finding this post... I have a 5600x and RTX 3080 (same as yours) and have some issues only with ACC. Native 4k FPS is only 70ish compared to your 95+ on EPIC settings and barely gets above 100fps after enabling any of the upsampling options compared to your 170fps. When i pause the game mid race the FPS graph spikes up to the level that your graph shows in the video with comparable settings and when i resume the race it drops back down to 100fps and my gpu usage also drops with it. Anybody have any suggestions? Cheers.

@@martyporanek check your nvidia driver quality settings in NVIDIA Control Panel. Make sure the global options are all default or how you want them and then make sure ACC specifically follows the settings you want, global or otherwise. Sometimes I make changes in there that I forget about for years and impact performance.

@@martyporanek Dude I have the same exact issue. RTX 3080 TUF, ryzen 2700x. Framerate is high when paused but as soon as I press drive it tanks. Especially when doing an AI race with maxed out number of opponents it can barely stay above 50. I used to run an RTX2070 and a GTX 1080 and I never had problems with a full AI grid. Online races it stays around 60 when a lot of cars are around and around 80-90fps when I have only a couple cars around. Funny enough lowering the Car LOD setting gives the highest performance gain.... DLSS and FSR dont do much to give a bump except for like the ultra performance modes.... Really strange

@@suckabustaakadd I ended up selling the 3080. Trying to make it work was a bit of a ball ache. It wasn't fast enough for VR and still had little stutters in other games all the while benchmarking in the top 5%. NVIDIA drivers were appalling, gamebreaking and inconsistent with every release and the last 4 generations of NVIDIA cards I've owned all had some sort of quirks that ruined user experience daily. Over all an underwhelming ownership experience. I'm just waiting on next gen AMD now. Good luck.

Could you post your nvidia settings on nvidia control panel? I've been looking for this for a long time. Thank you!

Same for me, same videocard!

I've the same GPU. Could you post your nvidia settings on nvidia control panel? I've been looking for this for a long time. Thank you!

That's helpful! Any reprojection going on in the HMD and what scaling do you use?

@@ChristopherWoods Off the top of my head I can't remember the scaling but I have it set so it doesn't go above 1% reprojection. I think the scaling is around 80% Steam SS. I would suggest just leaving HMD settings as it is and enable FSR. From there you can tweak graphical and scaling settings until you're steady at 90 fps with minimal reprojection.

I have G2 and RTX 3080ti. I love to have a sharp picture above all, so I gave up using DLSS and FSR as it was too blurry for me. Instead I have a low resolution scale (60%) and a high VR pixel density (150%) plus low post-processing. All other settings are the same as in VR Low preset and Steam SS is set to 100%. In my case I get quite sharp picture and 90 FPS without any reprojection.

​@@davidzx692 Lowering resolution scale is doing the opposite of "sharp picture". FSR is an upscaling algorithm that will make 60% resolution scale look better. In ACC you can use a "Custom" scale for FSR and change the resolution scale to 60%. I suggest you try that and compare the FSR 60% to straight 60%. The FSR version will look better and should be almost identical FPS.

@@TheStoic84 If you are using FSR or DLSS yes you want to maximise resolution scale, in fact DLSS forces 100% res scale. If you aren't using an upscaling option then in VR the long held and accepted view is low resolution scale and high pixel density for ACC. I thought that it was wrong but as a VR user as soon as i tried it the proof was in the image my eyes were seeing.

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Not only that but also include NIS for non RTX people and those attempting 4k triples on this mash potato of a game. Oh nice video :P Reference: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMimqMmJp8utZo0.html - this is actually an easier video to follow kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oslmgdqF3qnMgZ8.html

Would be interested see to disabled AA and use Quality DLSS (that serves as AA too)

Based on other comparisons, FSR brings many artifacts, especially on lower settings, compared to DLSS. Check fences and construction of over-head banners. Again, it would be interesting to find which AA settings make more sense for DLSS/FSR 🤔

Singe huge question remain - does it work / improves horrible VR performance of ACC?

same here

@JT same. This seems more for 4k displays single. On triple 1440p it looks super blury and i dont get anywhere near the fps jump he gets.

same for me on a lower end 2080 laptop, i did see they recently released some drivers for it so that may help

I have a 3080 xtreme, oc 2100mhz, acc ultra/high(80% options), with dlss quality, 4k 120fps always with gpu 80% in single and 95/98% in race with other cars

You gotta try metro exodus enhanced, that one is amazing

Thanks for this, won't waste my time at 1080p then haha

@@damiendegrasse try it. Every eyes are different and it's just a toggle and it will cost you a couple of minutes.

Exactly my problem too. I’d love to get the extra frames but projection correction is necessary for my 49”

You can use the 49” as a triple and still have DLSS/FSR

What option in DLSS did you chose? How many cars on the grid ? What track / time of day ? Sorry for the questions … I also have a 2080ti but it looks pretty bad on 1080p. Wanting to upgrade to 1440p triples but just want to make sure the GPU can run it efficiently Thanks

Do you have temporal anti aliasing turned on?

I don't have an answer for you either but I also tried mixing FSR and the "in game" supersampling. I am on a 1660 super and I have to take what I get. I tried FSR on performance and pixel density on 175% or something like that. I feel like I get the fps boost (with a few artifacts on shadows especially) and I am still able to make up for the blurriness with the pixel density. It looks and runs better than either FSR on good quality and just lowering resolution scale and upping pixel density

You can set a custom scale for FSR in ACC. You can turn FSR on with 50% resolution scale and it will look better than without it. In simple terms, FSR is just an advanced upscaling algorithm.

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I'll give it a shot, but TAA Gen 5 really tanked my FPS quite hard when I tried it.

@@Ermz TAA Gen 5 does make for a big hit! Also, I went to Laguna and with FSR I was getting a lot of "noise" around fences and objects at a distance. I went back to DLSS Quality as the noise wasn't as bad. Running about 20 frames higher now that TAA Gen 5 is off and DLSS. Hard to settle in here and find the happy medium across the board.

@@tt350zJason yeh I had that noise at Bathurst too … I thought it was my wife / kids behind me 🤣

if you have an nvidia card you should be using DLSS

@@tysopiccaso8711 disagree, I have a rtx 2070 super and the difference between fsr quality (crisp/clear) and dlss quality was huge (blurry) for the same amount of fps.

I feel that. Unreal Engine 4 is a bit of a blown generation for me. Loved 3, but 4 has this weird reliance on AA and fake sharpening, then supersampling to overcome how much of a resource hog it is.

@@Ermz That's spot on I really feel like to get any real visual qualities it has to be ran in a native 4k and being frank most people are either on 1080 or 1440 at least for triples on a sim rig. I would like to have some settings like iracing to see if I could get at least 100 across the board, solo running ACC is top notch its when you have 30 other cars on the grid where it tanks and you either have to decide to lose visuals or lose fps, and fps is king in racing titles you have a disconnect when the wheel does one thing but the visuals are behind. Solid video this week enjoyed it sir.

it's msi afterburner he uses for reading fps

It still looks like trash with very little FPS gain. The most useless setting

nVIDIA 3080

I agree the graphics card market is pretty out of control right now. The question is will ever go back to "normal" these companies see people will pay double the retail and not bat an eye. I think even when supply meets demand the price will continue to be crazy thanks to impatient people and resellers.

Why would you think that is an option for the providers? You really think they cranked the prices on their own will?? They could have had tons of more revenues through the last 2 years if the production output would have been large enough according with lower prices. Better accept the new reality of stagflation we are in (not only in this industry)! Btw: I could sell my over 2-years old 2080ti for 1300$ (normally worthless) and get a new 3080ti for 2100$ -> so overall, I did not really pay more for this new card as I would have with pre-crisis conditions. End of story!

ACC physic engine works at 400Hz

Probably sharpening

Hopefully Kunos optimize AI and cpu more

sounds like a cpu bottleneck maybe, if you get worse fps when turning down graphically intensive settings thats usually it

All the AI really makes the CPU the bottleneck. Upgrade from R5 2600 to 5600x and gained A LOT of fps in AI races. :)

@@westcoast117 Guys! I spent £55 on a second stick of ram and Feck Me! Just going dual channel is like ive got a new CPU or something, the performance increase in ACC is fantastic! I've made a vid about it called "£55 Hardware Update Gamble Pays Off!" For £55 quid im a v happy bunny!

I use fsr on a gtx1070 at 1080p. In balanced mode its not quite as sharp as native 1080p. But it bumped my average fps from 80-90 with a field of 20 ish cars to 130. And when alone on track i easily break 200fps. I dont use it to take screenshots. But for racing? Free fps.

Loads of bs. They both employ temporal upscalling to sharpen images. Temporal just means the algorithms run in real time adjusting the image. The settings have pretty much the same caveats, upscalling from the same input resolutions. DLSS pre-computation analysis is done at Nvidia datacenters, whereas FSR can be fined tuned directly by the publisher, so it's actually easier to implement changes.

@@BeCaffe As far as I know temporal reconstructions like TAA or DLSS use previous frames with motion vectors, so they know much more about what is happening on the frame than upscalers that only know about the current frame like FSR. But because of using previous frames ghosting is a problem while FSR has no ghosting. FSR is much easier to implement because it's a much simple technique. Of course it has limited options compared to an AI upscaler that can add detail to the image and in theory the DLSS picture can be better than the native! Of course, from the user perspective, if you render 70% of a 4K image that is already sharp and rich in detail, no matter what upscaler you use, you will get nice results, and as we see, it is possible that the user cannot distinguish the two, or prefers the FSR image because of no ghosting and the sparpening. However if you start experimenting with super low resolutions like 720p or 480p, the advantage of using AI becomes undeniable. And we are just scratching the surface what is possible with AI, I'm sure will see great improvements in the future.

Thanks. MSI Afterburner.

@@Ermz Thank you, I want to see what kind of FPS I am getting

I've read that this can be done, but most people seem to believe that the DLL that was packaged with the game would be best. Have you seen any evidence of it improving quality or performance? I'm about to give FSR a try because DLSS Quality on my triples makes textures look terrible.

FSR Could losts quality in 1080p

Bit late to respond but ACC is very CPU intensive. If you updated bios and threw in a 5800X3D, you'd notice a significant difference in 1% lows as well as higher average frames.

MSI Afterburner

I have a G2 and an index. As much as I like the g2 I find myself sticking with the index. It seems to perform better and have less one frame stuttering. I think WMR is the culprit.

RF2 just killed itself once again with the new update. Not able anymore to configure my pedals (once again!!!)… the controller/configuration issues are NOTORIOUS, at this point I gave up hope that they ever get this title to work halfway reasonable.

@abba Tputuvella clearly have no idea what your talking about. KZfaq on shows 60fps maximum. So you wont see a difference in the video because both images are locked too 60fps where as if you play at 80fps on a 170hz monitor (no good getting 80fps if your screen is only 60hz. you need the fps to be the same range as the hz as much as possible) then try dlss and get 170fps the difference is dramatically smoother. Imagine a flicker book where you flick through pages and you see a drawing move like kicking a ball, more pages more detail and less judder as you flicj the book, less pages more judder between each page so less smooth Imagine. This is the same. To see anything above 60fps you need a screen that goes above 60hz. I have 3 170hz 1440p screen with a rtx 3080 and get 165fps locked in iracing so i see and feel the full 165fps, before i had a 2080 super graphics card and used to get 110fps and the difference from 110 to 165fps was extremely noticeable and so much better too drive. Also ffb is effected by fps, if you have constant fps dropping then going back up and not stable that will effect how fast the ffb cues come through.

@Abba Toutuvelle also FSR works with all cards not just RTX.

@Abba Toutuvelle and dlss is a new tech RTX cards can do RTX is the cards its self. keep playing forza and you'll be ok

Ah, 10:25, 3080

No it's not. The whole point of DLSS is to AI-upscale lower resolution in realtime to achieve higher frames. An AI-upscaled lower resolution version cannot look better than the original..

@@acticfl It can and does in a lot of games. please do your research.

@@choatus dosent change the fact that its objectively worse in a graphical sense, you are lowering the resolution

@@tysopiccaso8711 Do you not understand how the Ai reconstruction works? the end product is actually better than the 4k equivalent in most cases, resolution has nothing to do with it.

@@choatusthe resolution is lower