The question keeps coming up, my PC specs: AMD Ryzen 5950X 64 GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB RAM ASUS RoG Crosshair VIII Hero Wi Fi ASUS TUF 3080 RTX
@martyporanek2 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the review. I posted earlier asking about your pc specs but have deleted after finding this post... I have a 5600x and RTX 3080 (same as yours) and have some issues only with ACC. Native 4k FPS is only 70ish compared to your 95+ on EPIC settings and barely gets above 100fps after enabling any of the upsampling options compared to your 170fps. When i pause the game mid race the FPS graph spikes up to the level that your graph shows in the video with comparable settings and when i resume the race it drops back down to 100fps and my gpu usage also drops with it. Anybody have any suggestions? Cheers.
@KenOttaviano2 жыл бұрын
@@martyporanek check your nvidia driver quality settings in NVIDIA Control Panel. Make sure the global options are all default or how you want them and then make sure ACC specifically follows the settings you want, global or otherwise. Sometimes I make changes in there that I forget about for years and impact performance.
@suckabustaakadd2 жыл бұрын
@@martyporanek Dude I have the same exact issue. RTX 3080 TUF, ryzen 2700x. Framerate is high when paused but as soon as I press drive it tanks. Especially when doing an AI race with maxed out number of opponents it can barely stay above 50. I used to run an RTX2070 and a GTX 1080 and I never had problems with a full AI grid. Online races it stays around 60 when a lot of cars are around and around 80-90fps when I have only a couple cars around. Funny enough lowering the Car LOD setting gives the highest performance gain.... DLSS and FSR dont do much to give a bump except for like the ultra performance modes.... Really strange
@martyporanek2 жыл бұрын
@@suckabustaakadd I ended up selling the 3080. Trying to make it work was a bit of a ball ache. It wasn't fast enough for VR and still had little stutters in other games all the while benchmarking in the top 5%. NVIDIA drivers were appalling, gamebreaking and inconsistent with every release and the last 4 generations of NVIDIA cards I've owned all had some sort of quirks that ruined user experience daily. Over all an underwhelming ownership experience. I'm just waiting on next gen AMD now. Good luck.
@AllanFantoni2 жыл бұрын
Could you post your nvidia settings on nvidia control panel? I've been looking for this for a long time. Thank you!
@philiphansen11032 жыл бұрын
DLSS has given me a nice increase in fps and no more stuttering, I can also bump a few settings up now. Using an rtx 2060 6gb playing at 1440p
@pedromedina26922 жыл бұрын
Same for me, same videocard!
@AllanFantoni2 жыл бұрын
I've the same GPU. Could you post your nvidia settings on nvidia control panel? I've been looking for this for a long time. Thank you!
@Idfk16_2 жыл бұрын
"Long time no see"? You post a vid almost every day mate! Thanks
@jopereirapt2 жыл бұрын
FSR allows my GTX1080 to handle higher settings at a lower power consumption (instantaneous 140W goes to 70w !!). To have FSR to +100w I had to increased a lot of quality settings. I'm limited by my 75Hz monitor but, to be honest, when I'm racing there is no time to nitpicking about graphics quality - all my neurons are busy!! Thanks for this review.
@nortski782 жыл бұрын
A note for vr users. I tested both DLSS and FSR with my Reverb G2 and rtx 3070 ti. In DLSS quality mode I had significant artifacting on the bottom edge of the sun visor on the Mclaren 720s windscreen that was very distracting. However; with FSR Ultra Quality mode this was non existent and had a nice fps boost to keep my gameplay over the 90fps sweetspot. Hope this helps someone :)
@ChristopherWoods2 жыл бұрын
That's helpful! Any reprojection going on in the HMD and what scaling do you use?
@nortski782 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherWoods Off the top of my head I can't remember the scaling but I have it set so it doesn't go above 1% reprojection. I think the scaling is around 80% Steam SS. I would suggest just leaving HMD settings as it is and enable FSR. From there you can tweak graphical and scaling settings until you're steady at 90 fps with minimal reprojection.
@davidzx6922 жыл бұрын
I have G2 and RTX 3080ti. I love to have a sharp picture above all, so I gave up using DLSS and FSR as it was too blurry for me. Instead I have a low resolution scale (60%) and a high VR pixel density (150%) plus low post-processing. All other settings are the same as in VR Low preset and Steam SS is set to 100%. In my case I get quite sharp picture and 90 FPS without any reprojection.
@TheStoic842 жыл бұрын
@@davidzx692 Lowering resolution scale is doing the opposite of "sharp picture". FSR is an upscaling algorithm that will make 60% resolution scale look better. In ACC you can use a "Custom" scale for FSR and change the resolution scale to 60%. I suggest you try that and compare the FSR 60% to straight 60%. The FSR version will look better and should be almost identical FPS.
@joshuahill36182 жыл бұрын
@@TheStoic84 If you are using FSR or DLSS yes you want to maximise resolution scale, in fact DLSS forces 100% res scale. If you aren't using an upscaling option then in VR the long held and accepted view is low resolution scale and high pixel density for ACC. I thought that it was wrong but as a VR user as soon as i tried it the proof was in the image my eyes were seeing.
@simracetrain2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! If you have a chance, a night time comparison is also pretty interesting between DLSS, FSR and Native - it really exaggerates the differences.
@benmullard48862 жыл бұрын
👋🏻
@Space-O-20012 жыл бұрын
Not only that but also include NIS for non RTX people and those attempting 4k triples on this mash potato of a game. Oh nice video :P Reference: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMimqMmJp8utZo0.html - this is actually an easier video to follow kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oslmgdqF3qnMgZ8.html
@aubreycolemanracing2 жыл бұрын
DLSS good for people that have lower end RTX cards, and maybe ones that use triples, with higher end cards. Nice video Ermin.
@Reds-Retros Жыл бұрын
...and people called me crazy for thinking that in most cases I have tried, FSR looked better than DLSS. On my 55" 4k 120hz HDR display the improvement in image quality just seemed really obvious to me, but it's good to know for sure that I wasn't just thinking it. Thanks for making this video!
@LordofGarnix2 жыл бұрын
Man....you just do the best comparison videos. Right when I think "but what If I do this and that?" And you test that case. No bullshit, clear dstinction between your opinion and facts and a good eye for details. ACC with dlss make If finally playable on my triples without turning everything down to a blurry mess.
@unotoli2 жыл бұрын
Cutting edge review / answer to hot question! That's a professional approach, dedication and respect for viewer. Much appreciated!
@unotoli2 жыл бұрын
Would be interested see to disabled AA and use Quality DLSS (that serves as AA too)
@unotoli2 жыл бұрын
Based on other comparisons, FSR brings many artifacts, especially on lower settings, compared to DLSS. Check fences and construction of over-head banners. Again, it would be interesting to find which AA settings make more sense for DLSS/FSR 🤔
@unotoli2 жыл бұрын
Singe huge question remain - does it work / improves horrible VR performance of ACC?
@Jt71662 жыл бұрын
I gotta be honest, I've yet to have DLSS make a positive impact on a game for me. I have an RTX 3080 and with DLSS in Performance or Balanced mode just makes the game look blurry and Quality mode hurts my frames more than not using it. Hopefully it's helping others, but for me it just hasn't yet
@markham69422 жыл бұрын
same here
@Simlife1012 жыл бұрын
@JT same. This seems more for 4k displays single. On triple 1440p it looks super blury and i dont get anywhere near the fps jump he gets.
@Jerry-tg2lj2 жыл бұрын
same for me on a lower end 2080 laptop, i did see they recently released some drivers for it so that may help
@ivanor86212 жыл бұрын
I have a 3080 xtreme, oc 2100mhz, acc ultra/high(80% options), with dlss quality, 4k 120fps always with gpu 80% in single and 95/98% in race with other cars
@SentinelxPrime2 жыл бұрын
You gotta try metro exodus enhanced, that one is amazing
@rickdubbink2 жыл бұрын
For me, using an rtx 3060 laptop, DLSS is many games so good on quality mode, it always gains me around 30fps while the game still looks amazing at 1440p
@grillodon2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have anything of these problems. I run on 1440p and with RTX 2060 Super and DLSS Quality with 10% sharpness. No ghosting, no aliasing. And a lot of fps.
@alpha007org2 жыл бұрын
DLSS is a mixed bag. In some games it's so good it would be foolish to turn it off. But in others DLSS is just crap. FSR on the other hand is only usable at higher resolutions like 4K and 3440x1440. At 1920x1080 FSR in any quality mode degrades the image too much in every game.
@damiendegrasse2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, won't waste my time at 1080p then haha
@alpha007org2 жыл бұрын
@@damiendegrasse try it. Every eyes are different and it's just a toggle and it will cost you a couple of minutes.
@mikelshwede2 жыл бұрын
With my 5600x / 3080, in VR (rift s) DLSS and FSR have no positives. Best solution I have found is to just run 50% res scale and 200% pixel density with DLSS off, this gives a crisp image and 80FPS lock. Running a high resolution scale with DLSS doesn’t help, it just reduces FPS and introduces stutter with a worse image than above settings. FSR is very blurry in VR.
@cmdrhersin5922 жыл бұрын
Fsr is a blessing for people with lower end rigs. I stuck with 1050ti ( thanks scalpers ) for last year and half. With FSR on quality i gain 40%!!! Of fps with epic preset on full hd. That was really good video one of the better i watch on the subject. 👍
@bscommissions8922 жыл бұрын
Just a small correction. its completely fine to run FSR on Nvidia cards. since FSR doesn't use the dedicated tensor cores from the RTX series so its really open to any card that doesn't have those. so any GTX card from Nvidia also benefits from it. its nothing thats vendor locked down or punishes Nvidia users for using it. Plus I have heard it here and there that some VR and Nvidia users seem to like it more.
@demonhellcat2 жыл бұрын
I tried DLSS quality and native 1440p back to back and actually preferred DLSS. I need to try out the FSR modes - didn't realize they work with nVidia cards. (I have a RTX 2070)
@petrmiskerik2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ermin. Great video.
@iulian25482 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, Ermin! I thought sound was your main talent:)
@Ho3n3r2 жыл бұрын
FSR works nicely in terms of framerates for me, but for some reason it removes the projection correction setting. Thus, I am sticking to DLSS for now.
@Blu3Cruiz3r2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my problem too. I’d love to get the extra frames but projection correction is necessary for my 49”
@pstoppani2 жыл бұрын
You can use the 49” as a triple and still have DLSS/FSR
@heelandtoeknee2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ermin, very helpful comparison. 👏 So I’m back to the graphics settings tonight… when I just wanna race! 😂 take care!
@olliebob83592 жыл бұрын
I’m on triples and using a 2080ti on 7809x1440p and it’s a game changer with DLSS for me, over 100fps now on epic, yet my friend on a 3080 same (ish) res and he gets a lot of stutters and he also get the stutters on fs22 and mine is smooth as silk
@CY0782 жыл бұрын
What option in DLSS did you chose? How many cars on the grid ? What track / time of day ? Sorry for the questions … I also have a 2080ti but it looks pretty bad on 1080p. Wanting to upgrade to 1440p triples but just want to make sure the GPU can run it efficiently Thanks
@benbunch41592 жыл бұрын
Still not enough to get any decent sharpness or performance in VR on my RTX 2080 super unfortunately. Really frustrating that ACC can’t get near the sharpness or fidelity of iRacing or AC on same hardware.
@StuttGartDTM2 жыл бұрын
Apologies if already asked, could you please advise your in game Graphics settings
@PathTracer752 жыл бұрын
Nice review and thanks for comparing the new modes! I don't see any reference on your HW specs, CPU, GPU, ram?
@astontapper85432 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't really understand any of this, but I still watched and liked the video anyway because you're a cool dude. 👍
@jakubmichalenko79902 жыл бұрын
Maybye there is bluring in dlss where in FSR isn't, but that's because dlss has a previous frames memory which helps in sharpness of static objects or slowly moving objects, there's the blur but that's because dlss was ment to be upscailing games and therefore they probably didn't think about games with fast motion like race sims. The FSR doesn't do any of those things, it doesn't has the blur, because it just upscales the frame that is rendered without looking at previous frames, but the video thexture quality and sharpness of objects that are further away is noticably worse.
@the_mathias2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried setting sharpening to 50% when using DLSS Quality?
@BrainusMaximus Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the sun reflection on the windshiled dlss quality in the last comparison
@Harbz_GG2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ermin, this video was great... However my experience of FSR has been somewhat odd. On my 49" super ultrawide FSR seems to make cars about 2/3 car lengths away incredibly blurred. Could this be something to do with something else in me settings do you think?
@edgelord1212 жыл бұрын
Do you have temporal anti aliasing turned on?
@fuckjoebiden2 жыл бұрын
I use DLSS in any game I can on a monitor, but in VR I use FSR at native resolution because it's a nice sharpening filter and I don't want to run below native resolution when VR is already so blurry
@Rapid_GT Жыл бұрын
In both examples with the mirror thing there are some cars with or without mirror reflection other than the car you're actually focusing on
@TastyPapaya2 жыл бұрын
I use a 1440p screen with DLSS creating a 5120x2880 image in performance mode (1440p internally) and then downscaling it to 1440p. Looks amazing.
@Cereal_Killr Жыл бұрын
Im running single 4K screen and a 4090. Honestly I prefer the FSR in custom mode and set resolution to 95 percent. I still get antialiasing options and the slight blur that FSR adds makes things just look more realistic to me. DLSS is just too sharp and jaggy looking to me. 5800x3D and 4090 give me about 150ish with FSR custom and 95 percent resolution...and it looks great! I also prefer to turn down color to about 82 percent. stock is just too vivid!
@discover622 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Outstanding review
@AwesomeBenchmarks2 жыл бұрын
I cant agree more with FSR looking better . And big performance boost. Nice video and one question what cpu are you using ?
@hansdietrich832 жыл бұрын
I saw acomment under one 1.8 video that for mid range pcs running VR, it might be better to set the resolution scale to 50% and VR pixel density to 200% instead. I think it might be a bit more performant because it's old scholl upsampling where detail isn't as important, because you're using VR. Would be interesting if you could test that too
@Ipsider2 жыл бұрын
I don't have an answer for you either but I also tried mixing FSR and the "in game" supersampling. I am on a 1660 super and I have to take what I get. I tried FSR on performance and pixel density on 175% or something like that. I feel like I get the fps boost (with a few artifacts on shadows especially) and I am still able to make up for the blurriness with the pixel density. It looks and runs better than either FSR on good quality and just lowering resolution scale and upping pixel density
@TheStoic842 жыл бұрын
You can set a custom scale for FSR in ACC. You can turn FSR on with 50% resolution scale and it will look better than without it. In simple terms, FSR is just an advanced upscaling algorithm.
@TleafarafaelT2 жыл бұрын
+
@widerfov Жыл бұрын
The strong ghosting at 2:40 in front and back of the car on replays is from motion blur. It completely goes away if you disable it. I tried everything to get rid of it, but to no avail until I turned off motion blur. It has nothing to do with DLSS or anti-aliasing.
@AndrewTSq Жыл бұрын
I think the DLSS implementation in ACC is bad. I mean, I use to play games like Fortnite in DLSS all the time, that is way more taxing on the GPU than this game, and the DLSS makes actually the game looks better than native. Cause in Fortnite they use DLSS for antialiasing, which ACC does not seem todo... I also see ghosting in DLSS... its like ACC uses DLSS 1.0 which was way worse and blurry and ugly looking. I never use DLSS1.. but DLSS2 I love. FSR uses a way more simple tech, which makes things like fine details look wierd, but it might look better in this game. But if we get DLSS 2 + DLSS AA.. then there is no question. edit: love the Ridge racer Type 4 music :)
@Cheebameister12 жыл бұрын
I still dont realy get how to setup sharpening, ingame it says if u use quality mode then it should be 0 but it gets better with some sharpening but 100 seems to be to much and starts flickering fences for some reason.
@Joshtow1672 жыл бұрын
This sim looks great regardless. I stadted on ps4 with a janky t80 no ffb. To pc with a t150 to t300rs. This sim is amazing.
@dubtube6691 Жыл бұрын
Finally it's playable on a none 4k monitor with not their much blurry mess
@MrJoppashoppa2 жыл бұрын
Quastion, what happens if you put FSR at constum, and then @ 100%. Then you render at a native resolution. But you will get even better image quality then native 4k right? This is something you cannot even do with DLSS.
@tt350zJason2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, detail, and description as always...thanks!!! I use FSR Ultra Quality and TAA Gen 5 like Aris does. If it's good enough for his 2080ti it's good enough for mine. :)
@Ermz2 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a shot, but TAA Gen 5 really tanked my FPS quite hard when I tried it.
@tt350zJason2 жыл бұрын
@@Ermz TAA Gen 5 does make for a big hit! Also, I went to Laguna and with FSR I was getting a lot of "noise" around fences and objects at a distance. I went back to DLSS Quality as the noise wasn't as bad. Running about 20 frames higher now that TAA Gen 5 is off and DLSS. Hard to settle in here and find the happy medium across the board.
@CY0782 жыл бұрын
@@tt350zJason yeh I had that noise at Bathurst too … I thought it was my wife / kids behind me 🤣
@tysopiccaso87112 жыл бұрын
if you have an nvidia card you should be using DLSS
@SwordnScale2 жыл бұрын
@@tysopiccaso8711 disagree, I have a rtx 2070 super and the difference between fsr quality (crisp/clear) and dlss quality was huge (blurry) for the same amount of fps.
@reviewforthetube64852 ай бұрын
Balanced is very very nice. Guys with my i5 13400f and 4070 super I can get over 150fps in this game in 4k on balanced. Its crazy
@maddugqc69112 жыл бұрын
why you play dlss without sharpening and fsr with sharpening that can change the result for sure...??
@Danidurga2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what happend but now the game looks much more dark and I don0t know wich graphic option change. Is impossible on nigh race, I can't see anything, and in day race on monza, looks like a very cloudy day :(
@empii911 Жыл бұрын
I don't really get why my system is much slower than the one shown here, running the Sim with a STRIX 3090 OC and last years fastest i9, even with DLSS on (ultra performance) in exterior replays I hardly get 90FPS on my 1440p screen ?
@codiejohnson47522 жыл бұрын
I want to like the game but the dang blur is actually really bothersome to me its just ridiculous how this game is incapable of running a good fps without looking like the og doom
@Ermz2 жыл бұрын
I feel that. Unreal Engine 4 is a bit of a blown generation for me. Loved 3, but 4 has this weird reliance on AA and fake sharpening, then supersampling to overcome how much of a resource hog it is.
@codiejohnson47522 жыл бұрын
@@Ermz That's spot on I really feel like to get any real visual qualities it has to be ran in a native 4k and being frank most people are either on 1080 or 1440 at least for triples on a sim rig. I would like to have some settings like iracing to see if I could get at least 100 across the board, solo running ACC is top notch its when you have 30 other cars on the grid where it tanks and you either have to decide to lose visuals or lose fps, and fps is king in racing titles you have a disconnect when the wheel does one thing but the visuals are behind. Solid video this week enjoyed it sir.
@TimoWinter2 жыл бұрын
1 thing for sure, it's awesome to have the choice :D
@tigerbalm6663 ай бұрын
Why does ACC look like crap on my 5700XT? Maybe I need a 6800?
@MsTheCops2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ermin ...Do we ...do you really notice these artifacts while racing? (I do not) & do we even notice it during Replays? (I haven't yet) & that is not a pass for Nvidia ...they should have done better I guess. BUT ...DLSS was a huge benefit in my 3 screen system. As PSR stated below ...we who run extreme displays need it! I run three, 43 inch 4K displays on a RTX 3080 in a loaded Alienware Aurora 11 & ACC had to have the graphics toned down & I never quite got 60 fps. DLSS has it running far past the 60 Hz limit of the cheap displays. I'm older & my eye's are not great ...but I've not noticed ANY of the graphical artifacts you've shown here. Thanks so much ...I'll know what to do if I DO see it as an issue. In my humble opinion DLSS has made ACC much better on my not so humble system. PS: Uncle Bob has been missing for 7 years ...have you found him? ...lol
@reynaldiwidjaja2772 жыл бұрын
I had 2060 Super and now using 3060 DLSS giving me so much blur on the dash and the billboards.
@mihpop97332 жыл бұрын
Hey Ermin, how did you get the FPS readout? I'd like to play around with the settings but need the readings.
@Ambandion2 жыл бұрын
it's msi afterburner he uses for reading fps
@johnnyballbag89162 жыл бұрын
FSR wins for me on an RTX3090 running triple 1440p. DLSS applies temporal antialiasing which looks cack in my eyes
@tigerbalm6662 жыл бұрын
AC runs great on my RX570 - max resol @60fps 1080p...how will ACC run vs AC?
@alexelsyard42282 жыл бұрын
Hi . Yes . For me . Iam on 3090 triple 1440p monitor. I run everything on Epic. And dlss on quality. I get 15- 20 fps In compared without dlss.
@poltimmer2 жыл бұрын
Hold up why did you skip FSR Quality? That's the default one, with seemingly the best quality/performance balance.
@Wylie2882 жыл бұрын
It still looks like trash with very little FPS gain. The most useless setting
@m9the476 Жыл бұрын
7:16 DLSS can display more details of telegraph pole
@pacovanomerino94602 жыл бұрын
You don’t say which are the settings in order to have better graphics 😔
@rodrigomendes33272 жыл бұрын
What is your setup?
@jasonricard50582 жыл бұрын
Ermin, that flickering you describe on fences etc. happens constantly for me in rFactor 2. Any advice to remove this from that game?
@PotatoNamedCharlie2 жыл бұрын
What gpu are you running?
@Ermz2 жыл бұрын
nVIDIA 3080
@jeancoquelicot12492 жыл бұрын
changing dlss to fsr and i didint encouter stuttering anymore on 2070S in 3440x1440/ I lose some FPS but compared to dlss but its ok!
@TleafarafaelT2 жыл бұрын
i still cant play on vr... rx 6600 xt on oculus quest 2, and the game looks terrible, i really dont know what is happening
@electrontracker99142 жыл бұрын
As a decent paid senior software engineer I refuse to buy new graphic card until manufacturers give us reasonable prices for them. Not because I can't afford it, but because I refuse to be stupid. Even if I need to play at low graphic settings. End of the story!
@cbrdealer2 жыл бұрын
I agree the graphics card market is pretty out of control right now. The question is will ever go back to "normal" these companies see people will pay double the retail and not bat an eye. I think even when supply meets demand the price will continue to be crazy thanks to impatient people and resellers.
@iseeq722 жыл бұрын
Why would you think that is an option for the providers? You really think they cranked the prices on their own will?? They could have had tons of more revenues through the last 2 years if the production output would have been large enough according with lower prices. Better accept the new reality of stagflation we are in (not only in this industry)! Btw: I could sell my over 2-years old 2080ti for 1300$ (normally worthless) and get a new 3080ti for 2100$ -> so overall, I did not really pay more for this new card as I would have with pre-crisis conditions. End of story!
@glogan40782 жыл бұрын
Surely car physics need to run at a cobstant refresh rate ? Many games have their physics locked at 60hz such as Betheda games/HAVOK.... as does the WRC rally series. And. why would anyone need more than 60 fps locked in a driving game ?
@alex.atamanenko3 ай бұрын
ACC physic engine works at 400Hz
@derpsn2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ermin. Could you also show your overall graphic settings? My ACC never looks that good as everyone is showing in their videos. What do I wrong?
@PeteV802 жыл бұрын
Probably sharpening
@tarmacterrorist.thepotato2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ermin, great video! May I ask what CPU and ram you are using, I have found that on my system (i7 9700F CPU, 16G single stick of dd4 2666 RAM & RTX 2070 super GPU, DLSS or FSR do not give me any gains when running large grids of 20 plus cars, I think this is due to being somewhat CPU bound as my base frequency is only 3GHz, and running a single stick of ram, even though its 16G's worth i think the fact it is not utilizing duel channel might have an impact. If I run 2 cars on track there is less cpu load and I see an improvement, but for large grids of A.I. the very best thing i can do is simply lower all of the graphics settings I can accept. Thinking of upgrading the CPU, ram and GPU at some point. Im running native res at 3440 by 1440 btw. Cheers!
@utkarshchaurasia22332 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Kunos optimize AI and cpu more
@tysopiccaso87112 жыл бұрын
sounds like a cpu bottleneck maybe, if you get worse fps when turning down graphically intensive settings thats usually it
@westcoast1172 жыл бұрын
All the AI really makes the CPU the bottleneck. Upgrade from R5 2600 to 5600x and gained A LOT of fps in AI races. :)
@tarmacterrorist.thepotato2 жыл бұрын
@@westcoast117 Guys! I spent £55 on a second stick of ram and Feck Me! Just going dual channel is like ive got a new CPU or something, the performance increase in ACC is fantastic! I've made a vid about it called "£55 Hardware Update Gamble Pays Off!" For £55 quid im a v happy bunny!
@gardriel82082 жыл бұрын
TAA Gen5 dont has these ghosting artifacts, but it drops my fps quite a bit
@pintescheller12 жыл бұрын
hello everyone , i dont know much from pc, currently i have amd ryzen 7 3700x 8 processor ,16 gb ram en rtx 2070 super gaming trio, monitor asus 165hz. what would be best setting for me for best fps. and is 16 gb good for acc or helps with better? greets, thank if anybody can help me
@Godiekgaming2 жыл бұрын
What FOV is that?
@rluigi1965 Жыл бұрын
i have a rtx 3700 + i5 13600k but the performance in ACC with DLSS on do not improve . Quality indeed is worse . Why?
@Nago152 жыл бұрын
It's a little unfair comparsion, because DLSS doesn't have an ultra quality mode, and works with a lower internal resolution than FSR. But yes, temporal reconstruction techniques cause artifacts, while FSR causes an artifically sharpened look. I have and older AMD GPU so FSR makes this game playeable for me, it's really nice to have the option. But I would be interested how DLSS works with lower resolutions, like 1080p, where FSR usually fails. And don't forget you can replace the DLSS dll if a new version comes out (AC users love to hack;), and get better results over time and less ghosting, while FSR has little room for further improvements.
@kaozer6662 жыл бұрын
I use fsr on a gtx1070 at 1080p. In balanced mode its not quite as sharp as native 1080p. But it bumped my average fps from 80-90 with a field of 20 ish cars to 130. And when alone on track i easily break 200fps. I dont use it to take screenshots. But for racing? Free fps.
@BeCaffe2 жыл бұрын
Loads of bs. They both employ temporal upscalling to sharpen images. Temporal just means the algorithms run in real time adjusting the image. The settings have pretty much the same caveats, upscalling from the same input resolutions. DLSS pre-computation analysis is done at Nvidia datacenters, whereas FSR can be fined tuned directly by the publisher, so it's actually easier to implement changes.
@Nago152 жыл бұрын
@@BeCaffe As far as I know temporal reconstructions like TAA or DLSS use previous frames with motion vectors, so they know much more about what is happening on the frame than upscalers that only know about the current frame like FSR. But because of using previous frames ghosting is a problem while FSR has no ghosting. FSR is much easier to implement because it's a much simple technique. Of course it has limited options compared to an AI upscaler that can add detail to the image and in theory the DLSS picture can be better than the native! Of course, from the user perspective, if you render 70% of a 4K image that is already sharp and rich in detail, no matter what upscaler you use, you will get nice results, and as we see, it is possible that the user cannot distinguish the two, or prefers the FSR image because of no ghosting and the sparpening. However if you start experimenting with super low resolutions like 720p or 480p, the advantage of using AI becomes undeniable. And we are just scratching the surface what is possible with AI, I'm sure will see great improvements in the future.
@brianjackson18332 жыл бұрын
Great video, how do you get the overlay for the FPS ?
@Ermz2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. MSI Afterburner.
@brianjackson18332 жыл бұрын
@@Ermz Thank you, I want to see what kind of FPS I am getting
@thejoto2 жыл бұрын
what graphic card is he using?
@misterdog72 жыл бұрын
Good comparison! Now do the same for VR :P
@rchatte1002 жыл бұрын
It's also worth upgrading the dlss dll to the latest version.
@lifer862 жыл бұрын
I've read that this can be done, but most people seem to believe that the DLL that was packaged with the game would be best. Have you seen any evidence of it improving quality or performance? I'm about to give FSR a try because DLSS Quality on my triples makes textures look terrible.
@roblawrie12 жыл бұрын
I have a 2070 rtx and a 6500 i5. Dlss actually made the performance much worse. Seems odd?!
@cbrdealer2 жыл бұрын
Should we expect similar outcomes at 1080 and 1440?
@od131662 жыл бұрын
FSR Could losts quality in 1080p
@danvel37 Жыл бұрын
I have a very very low fps on my rx6900xt with r5 3600x and 32 GB of ram at 3600mhz in 1440p Monitor playing at misano with 26 cars I was only getting 95 with low settings and 75 with high setting that is ridiculous any help please?
@SAFFY7411 Жыл бұрын
Bit late to respond but ACC is very CPU intensive. If you updated bios and threw in a 5800X3D, you'd notice a significant difference in 1% lows as well as higher average frames.
@scubieroo052 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what overlay he’s using to track the gpu and cpu stats?
@gazzola412 жыл бұрын
MSI Afterburner
@Gokulbalram10 ай бұрын
Another thing of note is that DLSS adds latency
@myweirdtaste80902 жыл бұрын
in VR DLSS and FSR rather decresses picture clarity for me (3080/5900/G2), even in combination with higher PD/SS possible due to a (very slight) increase of fps. Also DLSS giving me WMR crashes.
@SlyNine2 жыл бұрын
I have a G2 and an index. As much as I like the g2 I find myself sticking with the index. It seems to perform better and have less one frame stuttering. I think WMR is the culprit.
@timwhiskerd21332 жыл бұрын
The only thing gained in 1.8 are the tyres not stalling and "giving up" when driven on the limit. I dont need ACC, RF2 has more to offer and one day they will get the graphics and bugs sorted, ... i did say oneday....
@iseeq722 жыл бұрын
RF2 just killed itself once again with the new update. Not able anymore to configure my pedals (once again!!!)… the controller/configuration issues are NOTORIOUS, at this point I gave up hope that they ever get this title to work halfway reasonable.
@jw27225 ай бұрын
FSR works much better than DLSS in Red Dead 2 as well.
@10002One2 жыл бұрын
can't see it, my man. the native 4K looked fine to me, and don't need mega framerates either. thanks for the effort on this video, by the time i can find and afford one of these new-fangled Nvidia RTX/DLSS/FSR/whatever cards, the next generation of graphics technology will have been released, so...not on the cutting edge. life is still so good!
@Simlife1012 жыл бұрын
@abba Tputuvella clearly have no idea what your talking about. KZfaq on shows 60fps maximum. So you wont see a difference in the video because both images are locked too 60fps where as if you play at 80fps on a 170hz monitor (no good getting 80fps if your screen is only 60hz. you need the fps to be the same range as the hz as much as possible) then try dlss and get 170fps the difference is dramatically smoother. Imagine a flicker book where you flick through pages and you see a drawing move like kicking a ball, more pages more detail and less judder as you flicj the book, less pages more judder between each page so less smooth Imagine. This is the same. To see anything above 60fps you need a screen that goes above 60hz. I have 3 170hz 1440p screen with a rtx 3080 and get 165fps locked in iracing so i see and feel the full 165fps, before i had a 2080 super graphics card and used to get 110fps and the difference from 110 to 165fps was extremely noticeable and so much better too drive. Also ffb is effected by fps, if you have constant fps dropping then going back up and not stable that will effect how fast the ffb cues come through.
@Simlife1012 жыл бұрын
@Abba Toutuvelle also FSR works with all cards not just RTX.
@Simlife1012 жыл бұрын
@Abba Toutuvelle and dlss is a new tech RTX cards can do RTX is the cards its self. keep playing forza and you'll be ok
@buttdyno2 жыл бұрын
Where did this say what graphics card it was using?
@buttdyno2 жыл бұрын
Ah, 10:25, 3080
@anthonylee53052 жыл бұрын
What are your PC specs?
@goob89452 жыл бұрын
DLSS actually replaces anti aliasing so quality mode at 4K should be the best image possible
@acticfl2 жыл бұрын
No it's not. The whole point of DLSS is to AI-upscale lower resolution in realtime to achieve higher frames. An AI-upscaled lower resolution version cannot look better than the original..
@choatus2 жыл бұрын
@@acticfl It can and does in a lot of games. please do your research.
@tysopiccaso87112 жыл бұрын
@@choatus dosent change the fact that its objectively worse in a graphical sense, you are lowering the resolution
@choatus2 жыл бұрын
@@tysopiccaso8711 Do you not understand how the Ai reconstruction works? the end product is actually better than the 4k equivalent in most cases, resolution has nothing to do with it.
@tysopiccaso87112 жыл бұрын
@@choatusthe resolution is lower
@MrFelixify Жыл бұрын
Why would you ever need this many fps? unless you have a screen that can't handle it, it's pointless.
@Monsterracing192 жыл бұрын
Wow detailed
@TheStoic842 жыл бұрын
As a 49" Ultra-widescreen and AMD user, I found that the default sharpening of 80% is a bit too high for FSR. I ended up going with 60%(I compared all sharpening settings 0-100% @ 10% increments). Also of note: FSR breaks Projection Correction. I hope this is something Kunos can fix, and not something that FSR just can't handle.
@ballzzzz692 жыл бұрын
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@richpoor146 Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me? No matter how hard I try. I can’t tell the difference between the two.
@blaster12v Жыл бұрын
wat you need to know,, 4k is perfect with 30fps.. but it needs to be stable 30/35 pfs.. and never below 30.. than its stil perfect.
@iiStryker3602 жыл бұрын
I'm running a 6800XTwith a Quest 2. I wonder what the performance gains for FSR in VR High are?
@joshuahill36182 жыл бұрын
Haven't tried the version of FSR implemented within the game post the update but tried it pre the update and in VR I've never been a fan of FSR. If I needed the extra frames it was useful to have but resulted in a worse image to my eyes. This is the first title I've tried DLSS in and with VR it's much nicer looking imo. Only drawback is the cars in the distance ghost badly
@Lemming19702 жыл бұрын
Bonkers FSR looks better than DLSS... I've not found a game I like using DLSS in. Weird ass artefacts just kill it for me. BTW Using an RTX3090.