Stefan Kruger when it was obtained illegally. Yes, why do you feel it’s an attack? If you compensate a thief It’s like they stole twice.

There is no logic to assume and put all white people under the same umbrella to say because they are white they have stolen the property , what if they worked for it got a job got a bond? Or their parents did too... you are saying they cant have property based on white is associated automatically with being a thief? Is it the same logic to assume most criminals are black in this country and thieves too if you look at the evidence?

Robert Koch I understand your point but illegal is illegal. You can’t hand down stolen property then claim rightful ownership. If thats the case everyone will still something and then move it to there kids to prevent law enforcement seizing it. You can’t do that. If I steal your home and put it in my kids name how does that make it legal ? Also if black people tried to use that loop hole whites would be screaming foul on that because all they have to do is go to a white farmer, take ownership of the land then leave it to their kids. The problem is white people feel entitled to the world as if they are the rightful owners of everything. YOU ARE NOT....

@mike Whether you like it or not... black people never enjoyed private ownership of land! It was allocated to them by their own leaders. Changing the constitution will only open up the door for government to take ANY land, whether it was stolen or not is irrelevant!! The ANC with its backwards Marxist ideology wants to build a black elite class to rule over all!!

Stefan Kruger . How is building a black elite class a backwards ideology? Is a white elite class the only one that makes sense?

Xarras Sashenstar its the type of answer from a low IQ and racist communist

Xarras Sashenstar .....the dude cnt answer simple question

coltcaliber Uhh, that's stupid. Look at it from an individual perspective... So me an my other 40 black Africans,we go an kill a white farmer for his land... Okay.. uhh so now what? Must I now divide that land amongst all 40 of my people? What exactly is my personal benefit? We may actually argue amongst each other about how to divide that land we just killed for. But look, now our African government gives us a pat on the back. An they will actually be taking the land. Not us the people. We gain no actual benefit.... Now me an my 40 guys are gonna feel cheated out by the government, bcus our lives didn't improve at all. An we ain't even get no dam land. The shit don't work! Now we will rise up against our government! THE BLOODSHED IS DESIGNED TO NEVER END, bcus the elite know how the human mind works.. guys.. this will destroy Africa.

The Orb You are brain dead... enough said. Not wasting my time to reply to you.

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No my man, ure brain dead. The Orb is spot on with his argument regarding what this could eventually lead to. Hardly any African country could fulfill its promises towards the people that elected them, hence why there's so much conflict and strife throughout the continent. The talk is also that if this disastrous and draconian law ever has to pass, which many doubt will be the case, the government will not give private ownership to those people who is given land. The government will have a 99yr lease on it and this is clearly socialism in the making which has failed throughout history!!!!!!

AJ Marais His argument is valid... It doesn't make me brain dead if I call someone else brain dead. His choice of words threw me off and could have been put in context in a much more intelligent manner.

funny how I see Enerst as the one being unreasonable. why is it mostly White people panicking, why don't we hear about black farmers that are worried about the amendment

Nkosinathi Mbonani actually, all the black people I know who either already own land, or have bonds on land, are panicking. Maybe you need to read more, or get to know more people.

Nooo... in fact she is doing the right thing, simply because nothing gets explained properly and clearly and easily for EVERYONE to understand. When you bring the level of understanding down to primary school level is what is needed for everyone to understand. Thus you get people following just for the sake of following and never really knowing why, purely because intelligent discussion go's over their heads. Of course she is trying to make him look silly and not giving him time to finish his reply.

The Zulu king and his people are up in arms about the Trust that only the king is getting rich off...........because the government wants to take it !

"funny how I see Enerst as the one being unreasonable." - Lol.... my bru. How? Stop seeing only black and white.....

Threats, threats and more threats.

Investment always does a runner when communist polices get implemented but blacks like learning the hard way. Let them

it killed me too

Paul S it's a good question, if you think about it.

Uhh, that's stupid. Look at it from an individual perspective... So me an my other 40 black Africans,we go an kill a white farmer for his land... Okay.. uhh so now what? Must I now divide that land amongst all 40 of my people? What exactly is my personal benefit? We may actually argue amongst each other about how to divide that land we just killed for. But look, now our African government gives us a pat on the back. An they will actually be taking the land. Not us the people. We gain no actual benefit.... Now me an my 40 guys are gonna feel cheated out by the government, bcus our lives didn't improve at all. An we ain't even get no dam land. The shit don't work! Now we will rise up against our government! THE BLOODSHED IS DESIGNED TO NEVER END, bcus the elite know how the human mind works.. guys.. this will destroy Africa.

no amending the constitution on Racial lines is a racist act towards a minority. it is the most evil of crimes that democracy has done to the successful people of this land. without us would there be any of what you have today??

Kublaixxx it's a good day question

How is it an attack on property rights when it was illegally obtained? That’s what she meant. Can you answer that ?

Most property changed hands in the last 20 years and that happened after the getting the view on buying property from the democratically elected black government. They said you could buy, property rights would be protected and they happily collected the transfer duties on said sales. So it was DEFINITELY NOT illegally obtained

Kublaixxx are you trying to imply all of the land whites obtained was paid for to the government to have full ownership? BS

I have no idea what you wrote. The words seem English but it is incoherent. What are you saying?

Louise Steyn mmmmmm,liar

Futile

Heheh

Ernst thinks on his feet,not his backside...lol. So I think he might be happier standing. As for her,(my black sister,I still have love for you all but),she should have worn sneakers not high heels,cause she would be able to run the hell out of there before repeating a dumb question like that. Guys,I am black in appearance, grew up in a coloured community as my parents are mixed race in all three main race types in SA. I believe in being honest in order to have a healthy and productive future not only for us,but for our future generations as well. I am against white farmers losing their land this way,there is a solution,but we need to put our race-cards away and speak openly and civil to one another.

Ingrid Liebenberg Uhh, that's stupid. Look at it from an individual perspective... So me an my other 40 black Africans,we go an kill a white farmer for his land... Okay.. uhh so now what? Must I now divide that land amongst all 40 of my people? What exactly is my personal benefit? We may actually argue amongst each other about how to divide that land we just killed for. But look, now our African government gives us a pat on the back. An they will actually be taking the land. Not us the people. We gain no actual benefit.... Now me an my 40 guys are gonna feel cheated out by the government, bcus our lives didn't improve at all. An we ain't even get no dam land. The shit don't work! Now we will rise up against our government! THE BLOODSHED IS DESIGNED TO NEVER END, bcus the elite know how the human mind works.. guys.. this will destroy Africa.

He's incredibly stupid... I guess everyone who suffers from Afrophobia is.

Lol, you're Afrophobic too since you're racist against Boers..

You're ignorance insult doesn't bother me, try next door.

You're wrong, so I don't care about the rest.

FACT! Land expropriation without compensation will come to fruition in our lifetime. Go to Australia if you don't feel otherwise... bye!

Like the devil,can only destroy.

Your comment is idiotic, he nor anyone else ever denied that. And also a fact people like you like to forget is that all the land blacks had here they stole from the Khoi people.

Juan Olivier . . Nop. Africa had no borders... Nobody stole anything... on the other hand. What u guys did. Was armed robery at its best

My life haven't turned to crap and I've touched it since I was born and why do you people never mention Namibia, that's been run by blacks since before South Africa? It hasn't turned to crap so you never mention it. And if you knew anything about economics you'd know that it's the white Western nations that are bankrupt and are only surviving on easy credit, but not for much longer. Here's what England was like before the easy credit boom from 1987 onward: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5d4aNeXurW9co2S.htmlwhite_poverty_UK_1985 I used to feel sorry about the white poor but not any more thanks to people like you convincing me that poverty is somehow linked to some sort of genetic deficiency. Your people are failing *now* worldwide that's why your all getting so uppity. Your unlimited credit card is about to expire and you subconsciously fear that you're granddaughter is going to end up selling her body to some Chinese guy to make ends meet in a couple of decades and that's whether you're in a 9% minority white country or a 95% majority white country. No one will have any sympathy for you as you are the most heartless creatures that have ever existed. You enjoy black poverty and suffering and need it to continue to maintain your own sense of self-esteem.

Shirley Lincoln you can't demonize the Devil incarnate.

@ Michael Hayes : Fuck off.

that would be a great start, i would personally like to see every one go back to the place their ancestors came from and learn how to be fair to others before they leave again.

Puglous I rent the house i live in that's owned by a white man. So take that up with my landlord.

Puglous Give me my reparations and I'm as good as gone.

Puglous As soon as black people talk about reparations the only thing everyone can do is resort to name calling or religion to rebuff it

Domino effect. Or knock on effect of economics. They did it in Zimbabwe , hows that working for them? Take away property rights ....country is fucked.

has become?????

There is no false narrative being told here. These farmers take the best crops to europe and feed the nation the crumbs of those crops.

Section 25: Property No one can have their property taken away from them unless this is done according to a law (e.g., legally expropriating private property). Land Reform Section 25 also deals with land reform. It says the government must make laws and take other steps, to help people or communities to get land to live on, and to claim back land, if they lost it after 1913 and they lost it because of an apartheid law. Up to December 1998, in such cases people were able to claim the land back or compensation for the land. Labour tenants If a person has been living on land which they were not allowed to own because of apartheid laws, they will now be able to own this land or be paid compensation for it. An example of this is people who live on farms as labour tenants. The Extension of Security of Tenure Act has been passed by the government which gives labour tenants certain rights in terms of Section 25.

landmark22 Uhh, that's stupid. Look at it from an individual perspective... So me an my other 40 black Africans,we go an kill a white farmer for his land... Okay.. uhh so now what? Must I now divide that land amongst all 40 of my people? What exactly is my personal benefit? We may actually argue amongst each other about how to divide that land we just killed for. But look, now our African government gives us a pat on the back. An they will actually be taking the land. Not us the people. We gain no actual benefit.... Now me an my 40 guys are gonna feel cheated out by the government, bcus our lives didn't improve at all. An we ain't even get no dam land. The shit don't work! Now we will rise up against our government! THE BLOODSHED IS DESIGNED TO NEVER END, bcus the elite know how the human mind works.. guys.. this will destroy Africa.

landmark. damn all my neighbours in Europe is black....should they all go back to Africa? don't really understand...and must we take the house they bought now?

more people live in poverty in china then there are people alive in the whole of america....china is a joke

why arnt you living in china then?

because you're not Chinese rite??

exactly.. there are no "other farmers with cultural communities or anything" its just Chinese and that's it.. its not the same as if you have a culture people who are centered around farming and food production. so what now?? where is it successful in the world its not like china is an economic free for all giving its land to people who "dont farm it"?? what "truth" do you see through those commie eyes

come back when you can reply in coherent English.

Shirley Lincoln .. so how do u suggest this issue is resolved... govt tried willin buyer, willing seller.. farmers were not prepared to sell. .

Shirley Lincoln . .. and also.. why has it worked for u guys. And it wont work for us?

Shirley Lincoln . . Native land act to protect africans? Is that what u also believe? He is lying thru his teeth. . Stop defending evil.. accept that u were wrong and come up with ways to fix this thing. Instead of defending the indefensible.

Shirley Lincoln ur swearing and temper.. tells of a sorry arse fool. Who doesnt wanna admit to the truth.

Where i live. . Mpumalanga.. native lands are occupied by europeans. .

Puglous REALLY....OK like I said can't take what alot of you dish out!!! PATHETIC . & that's your example .

Megalodon Unlocked what ....chile go drink some milk and eat mayo

Kojo Magic Uhh, that's stupid. Look at it from an individual perspective... So me an my other 40 black Africans,we go an kill a white farmer for his land... Okay.. uhh so now what? Must I now divide that land amongst all 40 of my people? What exactly is my personal benefit? We may actually argue amongst each other about how to divide that land we just killed for. But look, now our African government gives us a pat on the back. An they will actually be taking the land. Not us the people. We gain no actual benefit.... Now me an my 40 guys are gonna feel cheated out by the government, bcus our lives didn't improve at all. An we ain't even get no dam land. The shit don't work! Now we will rise up against our government! THE BLOODSHED IS DESIGNED TO NEVER END, bcus the elite know how the human mind works.. guys.. this will destroy Africa.

The Orb bro who are u with this same dam story at least the land isn't PRIVATELY owned use your brain less than 20 percent of the people there are white the other 80 is black the white own 87% of the land and the blacks are pushed to the other 13% please explain how this will not better the economy taking the land back and giving it to the states. White people have done nothing to better that place. Let someone else take care of there own land for once. This world sucks living under these private fuks

but you will want their gold wont you?

Yeah right Mike. Your "brothers" (who coincidently sold your ancestors into slavery) can dig a hole two miles down. Too stupid to know you're stupid!

what?

It's a global class war my friend, not a race war. About 45 people own half the worlds wealth. The uber rich billionaires who buy up and corrupt governments around the world is the real problem. www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2018-01-22/richest-1-percent-bagged-82-percent-wealth-created-last-year

And then we'll buy it back from you, only for you to steal it again. Just like you did with the Somalis & Ethiopians.

Puglous yes because piece of s*** to like you think what's going on over in that land Is Right. I don't care how long ago it took place it is not your f****** land. Piece of s*** to like you guys need to go back to where you guys came from.

mamba701 you piece of s***. The whites that are there do they own the land? Were they the original people of the land? During the Berlin Conference in the 1800's King Leopold in the rest of those piece of s*** from the European countries had a meeting to divide and conquer the African continent. They have been doing that way before that and they're still doing it right now. So you need to go to educate your self moron.

I want a Ferrari.

A fool & his facts... nothing can irritate you more. (Btw, that is a fact!)

No, Ernest is not a fool, he stated facts. You are the fool.

you just want want want and do nothing to earn it. Lazy.....

You cant reason with stupid as they have no logic and their stupid is incurable