Escape from Tarkov's DLC Bait and Switch | Cold Take

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Ай бұрын

Escape from Tarkov had a huge player revolt recently. Let's understand why.
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@Deadbeat-Senpai
@Deadbeat-Senpai Ай бұрын
Oh, I get it! Negative hype is the truth. It all makes sense now. The truth might affect game sales.
@araonthedrake4049
@araonthedrake4049 Ай бұрын
Or criticism, or just any speech they don't like. You know, just another way to say they're abusing the copyright law to censor people without using the censorship word.
@locuas5601
@locuas5601 Ай бұрын
Yeah, this is a continuation of the old song and dance of companies thinking KZfaqrs, reviewers and journalists are supposed to be an arm of their commercial branch and are supposed to exclusively sell their product. So they get pissy and offended when that is not what happens.
@xsanguine8
@xsanguine8 Ай бұрын
Angry truth, anger seeps in when you're affected by this nonsense, and it makes you twist the truth to be even more damning. Neutral hype is just relying the info, by the numbers, and positive hype is like the Bethesda showcases, where the normal and even buggy content are explained as bonus features.
@ceasar9865
@ceasar9865 Ай бұрын
Damn bro spoilers (JK I don't care) 😭
@familiarbit5319
@familiarbit5319 Ай бұрын
Negative hype is when a controversy becomes bigger than the community of the game, I think. That is not *necessarily* the truth, people can be fooled after all, but it most often is.
@SedrickD
@SedrickD Ай бұрын
There is no negative hype in Ba Sing Se!
@cybergeek11235
@cybergeek11235 Ай бұрын
Here we are safe - here we are free.
@chazzergamer
@chazzergamer Ай бұрын
The CEO of BattleState games has invited you to Lake Laogai.
@casualbird7671
@casualbird7671 Ай бұрын
Hi, I'm-
@Respectable_Username
@Respectable_Username Ай бұрын
All I can say is that the Wayback Machine is one of the single most important tools to exist on the internet, so frequently providing a reliable paper trail that otherwise could not exist. And also that Frost's sand garden is looking lovely!
@ArcaneOverride
@ArcaneOverride Ай бұрын
There is a reason corps keep trying to get it shut down. It exposes their lies.
@Joe90h
@Joe90h Ай бұрын
Putting the 'class act' in class action lawsuit.
@raphsere
@raphsere Ай бұрын
What made this DLC controversy so notable to me were the sums involved. Video game companies trying to pull scummy crap like that is nothing new, but it generally involves small amounts of maybe of a few dozen bucks max, but with Tarkov, we're talking about special editions that cost *hundreds* of dollars, which seemed insane to me.
@wallyhackenslacker
@wallyhackenslacker Ай бұрын
I could justify paying 250 bucks for the special edition of a game if it came with say a gold plated figurine of the main character, the soundtrack on vinyl, a poster hand-signed by each dev, an exclusive making-of documentary miniseries and a complimentary t-shirt. Ain't no way I can justify paying that amount for a digital copy of a game that's mostly just chock-full of cosmetics and for a game that's ostensibly still in early access or something!
@CRL_One
@CRL_One Ай бұрын
"no microtransactions", so they had to go for *macro* transactions instead.
@Matthiasflint
@Matthiasflint Ай бұрын
"We said no micro transactions so we put in honkin' HUGE transactions! It's what the people want, right?"
@sabinekine2737
@sabinekine2737 Ай бұрын
Like I already own Tarkov. Why would I pay $250 for the PvE mode that interests me when I could spend nothing on the PvE mod.
@Rick586
@Rick586 Ай бұрын
​@@sabinekine2737 It's kind of like a more extreme version of how Bethesda keeps trying to monetize mods
@casey4697
@casey4697 Ай бұрын
I don't know if it's just me but hearing that a company takes down videos that qualify as "Negative Hype" sure does produce a lot of "Negative Hype" for that company.
@BladedEdge
@BladedEdge Ай бұрын
If only we had some sort of term for this common phenomenon. I wonder, for no particular reason, if Mike Masnick has any ideas.
@jamesrule1338
@jamesrule1338 Ай бұрын
"This 'No Negative Hype' T-shirt...."
@carolbaker2773
@carolbaker2773 Ай бұрын
Sometimes cancel culture can get out of hand, but it's also the only way for consumers to fight back. Boycotting has been a thing forever and if you don't like it, then you need to change as a company. Way too many protections for companies instead of consumers now adays
@ShadowOfCicero
@ShadowOfCicero Ай бұрын
Voltaire once gave a scathing review of a book he didn't like. The king also didn't like the book, so he tried to have it banned. The resulting backlash turned the book into a smash hit, and Voltaire lost face for the bad review. It was in that light, not one of higher principle, that Voltaire remarked, "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
@Gulyus
@Gulyus Ай бұрын
Isn't cancel culture only when the portion didn't do it? ​@@carolbaker2773 otherwise it is... Consequences of one's actions?
@wakipaki7381
@wakipaki7381 Ай бұрын
It's amazing how far some businesses will go to justify ripping off their customers: redefining words, censoring criticism, changing products after purchase, flagrantly lying... and then acting like the customers are at fault when they fail.
@Cynsham
@Cynsham Ай бұрын
Yep, the devs lie to customers face, get called out for it, and then retroactively try to change the wording and redefine what the term “DLC” means in order to double down and fuck over the people who supported them.
@ConsarnitTokkori
@ConsarnitTokkori Ай бұрын
me when plagiarism means not crediting the source
@deusexvesania1702
@deusexvesania1702 Ай бұрын
Checked the internet and the developer pulled something similar in 2018. Clearly it worked out for them back then, considering how Escape from Tarkov got really hyped up "recently" (positive hype, mind you).
@wibble2482
@wibble2482 Ай бұрын
POV: You trusted Russian game developers to not do awful, illegal things.
@shanegale6143
@shanegale6143 Ай бұрын
Nah
@soldier257
@soldier257 Ай бұрын
“Negative hype” is probably the most legalese word for “criticism” i’ve ever heard. The absolutely massive brass balls on this company…
@RowbotMaster
@RowbotMaster Ай бұрын
Are they massive or in fact absolutely tiny?
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo Ай бұрын
@@RowbotMaster If you had a set of massive spheres dangling between your legs, would you dare doing anything at all? Who came up with the term anyway, it's not about bravery, risking those being so much as struck with a candyfloss is nothing but stupid.
@kami_in_the_skye
@kami_in_the_skye Ай бұрын
Brass balls, yet no spine.
@SimuLord
@SimuLord Ай бұрын
I am negatively hyped. Point me toward the table handing out pitchforks and torches.
@bird3713
@bird3713 Ай бұрын
Woah woah woah - do you want this video to get delisted?
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 Ай бұрын
Well given the state of the gaming industry that isn't indie, it hard not go for the pitchfork and torches, in fact we might have to some of it.
@kayagorzan
@kayagorzan Ай бұрын
I call dibs on the pitchfork
@Landrassa1
@Landrassa1 Ай бұрын
Sign up now for the Justified Outrage Edition for only 179,99 for a free life time supply of pitchforks and torches! * * Torches not lit. Lighters sold separately. Pitchforks comply with (non-existant) regulation 218.72 meaning they aren't sharp and don't have a handle.
@hazukichanx408
@hazukichanx408 Ай бұрын
@@Landrassa1 Oooh, they've got the new Limited Edition Bethesda Pitchforks! =O
@oppenz3723
@oppenz3723 Ай бұрын
Few years ago, playing online is a feature. Now, playing offline is the feature.
@Hawk7886
@Hawk7886 Ай бұрын
factorio reigns supreme yet again
@elalaela2694
@elalaela2694 Ай бұрын
I fully thought the membership mark next to your username was a stake emoji for a couple of minutes 🥩
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Ай бұрын
So, when will folks in the EU raise this issue for being illegal marketing strategies? I bet this is clearly against EU marketing practices and should be a slam dunk to get governments involved.
@richardvlasek2445
@richardvlasek2445 Ай бұрын
they're a russian company based in a tax haven whose ceo has allegedly ties to some oligarch or another
@Bird_Dog00
@Bird_Dog00 Ай бұрын
Not sure if they even have the time to spare to go after individual developers. They seem to have their hands full trying to get Aple to behave...
@rathlord
@rathlord Ай бұрын
@@richardvlasek2445 They may be "based" in Russia but technically they operate out of the UK. At the very least their operations in the EU could likely be shut down over this anyway, which would massively impact sales.
@MazeFrame
@MazeFrame Ай бұрын
@@richardvlasek2445 In that case, let me make some "they are actually spyware" allegations based on nothing and watch the flames!
@CrysJaL
@CrysJaL Ай бұрын
@@richardvlasek2445 Probably even more reasons to fuck them over in that case then. Europe isn't so enamoured with Russia right now...
@masterofthelag8414
@masterofthelag8414 Ай бұрын
I'm surprised anyone looked at the what was it, $250 for the most expensive? - And said "Ah, yes that's reasonable for any single video game"
@Shaltinanwenor
@Shaltinanwenor Ай бұрын
I mean I've given shitloads of money to grinding gear games, but then again I've spent 5-digit hours in their game so feels fair idk
@AlmightyPolarBear
@AlmightyPolarBear Ай бұрын
Especially since it doesn't come with say; a statue, physical soundtrack, physical artbook, or anything like that.
@cheesi
@cheesi Ай бұрын
It's a fucked up world, some people do just have so much money that the differemce between 60 vs 250 on a game isn't all that substantial. Which is at least kinda understandable in my opinion, when you have so much money it must be really different trying to judge the worth of something. Then of course there are others who are actually spending a significant portion of thejr income, and that's something I just don't understand.
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 Ай бұрын
Star Citizen would like a word with its $55k+ JPEG
@BladedEdge
@BladedEdge Ай бұрын
The only video game that might be worth that, from my hours played, is Morrowind. But Bethesda in 2003 still remembered being indie and would have found that absurd.
@KernelXanders
@KernelXanders Ай бұрын
The Fragrance of Dark Coffee. Best song from Ace Attorney.
@BlueLightXZ
@BlueLightXZ Ай бұрын
I immediately recognized it as well. I love that song so much!
@sithdude2436
@sithdude2436 Ай бұрын
"To err is human, to forgive, divine. Humans aren't machines... they have souls, feelings. They live, they die, they love, they hate... and yes, they even make mistakes." - Tarkov devs, probably
@Kishieru
@Kishieru Ай бұрын
Jazz version too
@dunadan1995
@dunadan1995 Ай бұрын
Fucking thank you, I thought I heard it somewhere before but couldn't remember where, the jazz version is just amazing.
@nobodyinparticular9640
@nobodyinparticular9640 Ай бұрын
“Blacker than a moonless night, hotter and more bitter than hell itself… that is coffee.”
@GayBearBro2
@GayBearBro2 Ай бұрын
Ooh, Promise Tracker sounds like a great thing for countering hype. Might need to look into that myself when my friends get too excited for games.
@wallyhackenslacker
@wallyhackenslacker Ай бұрын
"Negative hype" is the second coming of "surprise mechanics"! It's so delightfully corpospeak and orwellian.
@MazeFrame
@MazeFrame Ай бұрын
I really whish some based politician bring forward some take-the-piss-law proposal to end this sort of "Actually, screw you" behaviour. Call it... contract of the sale law!
@shinigamidad
@shinigamidad Ай бұрын
"It's a *feature*...etc."
@jacobs483
@jacobs483 Ай бұрын
Deregulating businesses is like playing sports where the only rule is “the people who own the equipment get to make the rules. And they can change them mid-game too.” And everyone has to play sports, unless they own their own equipment and can have people play for them.
@bobafettjr85
@bobafettjr85 Ай бұрын
I love the slow transition from Zen garden to litter box.
@fyzxnerd
@fyzxnerd Ай бұрын
Frost... playing it cool... so cool... it's cold.
@Pyroniusburn
@Pyroniusburn Ай бұрын
"I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further"
@mrheisenberg83
@mrheisenberg83 Ай бұрын
This deal's getting worse all the time.
@nobodyinparticular9640
@nobodyinparticular9640 Ай бұрын
"I'mma drop the deal and just pirate whatever you were offering, byeee"
@shadiafifi54
@shadiafifi54 Ай бұрын
@@mrheisenberg83 "Furthermore you must call yourself Mary and peddle around on this unicycle!" Sorry, couldn't resist.
@mrheisenberg83
@mrheisenberg83 Ай бұрын
@@shadiafifi54 Never apologize for adding to the joke. You made me laugh and took me a little ways down memory lane!
@oceandark3044
@oceandark3044 Ай бұрын
Wow, I can't imagine there will be a bigger player revolt over a perceived bait-and-switch for a while.... >.>
@legomaniac213
@legomaniac213 Ай бұрын
We did see something like this with Overwatch 2. They sold it on the PvE mode, only to yank it away after the release of the game.
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 Ай бұрын
@@legomaniac213 I think OP is referring to the Helldivers 2 debacle that transpired over the weekend.
@Lorekeeper72
@Lorekeeper72 Ай бұрын
@@legomaniac213 Didn't they do that three times? Once when they reported that the PvE was largely being scrapped in favor of a handful of missions coming later, once when they said there would only be 3 missions instead of more and once when they fully dropped the idea altogether.
@CodSlap
@CodSlap Ай бұрын
@@legomaniac213 Methinks @oceandark3044 is being a bit sarcastic here. 😅 What was it now… HadesPlungers 3?
@DeusMachina_EXE
@DeusMachina_EXE Ай бұрын
*Cough cough* Helldivers *cough* Sorry, I had something caught in my throat.
@robertstenzel8455
@robertstenzel8455 Ай бұрын
As someone who's very insulated from the major developments in gaming news, I love the bite-sized updates I get from Cold Take.
@SimuLord
@SimuLord Ай бұрын
I've yet to find a gaming news site that doesn't descend into a cesspool at least periodically. I'd rather let guys like Frost wander around in that cesspool to tell me what the turds are made of than try to sample those turds on rye bread myself.
@davidchristie6003
@davidchristie6003 Ай бұрын
They already lost me on ever buying their games when they started trying to suppress critisism. I don't need "negative hype" to know that any company that engages in that kind of anti-consumer bs is not worth buying from.
@Gamer3427
@Gamer3427 Ай бұрын
Seriously. A good company addresses criticism directly, a bad company deflects from it, but it takes a particularly shitty company to try and suppress it entirely.
@gus.smedstad
@gus.smedstad Ай бұрын
So “extraction shooter” means “shooter that extracts more money from customers.”
@Bird_Dog00
@Bird_Dog00 Ай бұрын
Did it ever mean something else?
@Thanatos2k
@Thanatos2k Ай бұрын
Always has been
@valetboy21
@valetboy21 Ай бұрын
Tarkov is the Star Citizen of extraction shooters.
@kylekonop4801
@kylekonop4801 Ай бұрын
Tarkov at least produced a playable game.
@iamtherealzombie
@iamtherealzombie Ай бұрын
@@kylekonop4801 Star Citizen is a playable game, it just suffers from eternal feature creep.
@blackwing1362
@blackwing1362 Ай бұрын
At least star citizen doesn't have micro transactions, just macro transactions
@afterhours1337
@afterhours1337 Ай бұрын
touch grass edition $1499
@sandwich2473
@sandwich2473 Ай бұрын
@@iamtherealzombie and it's designed that way by the request of the majority of people who play it unfortunately they'll have no issues funding the game in 10 years time when they're still releasing concept ships purchasable through war bonds My brother is very hopeful for beta this year :/
@SuperSonicBlur
@SuperSonicBlur Ай бұрын
Ah the Fragrance of Dark Coffee Jazz version. A perfect bed on which Frost can lounge around luxuriously on. I like this.
@Star_Fox_2022
@Star_Fox_2022 Ай бұрын
Lol
@manvslife271
@manvslife271 Ай бұрын
I can't wait for the Helldivers shenanigans coverage next week. Massive W for customer rights.
@rikamayhem
@rikamayhem Ай бұрын
Sony is just helping Frost deliver an actual cold take about Helldivers so he can stop delivering hot ones about it; how nice of them.
@ArtificialDjDAGX
@ArtificialDjDAGX Ай бұрын
IDK, I've seen comments claiming that Sony hasn't done anything to revert the PSN account requirement for countries that can't make an account yet.
@ToxicAtom
@ToxicAtom Ай бұрын
I hear that turnabout jazz soul back there, you can't hide that from me
@mfmercface
@mfmercface Ай бұрын
shoutout to phoenix wright godot jazz track, it could be one of my favorite genders.
@NecroGuy360
@NecroGuy360 Ай бұрын
Finally I understand the sunk cost that keeps people playing this wretched game.
@weezusQL
@weezusQL Ай бұрын
everyone i know bought the base edition and just downloaded the free offline pve mod that BSG doesn't want people to know exists
@JackCabbit20
@JackCabbit20 Ай бұрын
@@weezusQL Same
@piyam5948
@piyam5948 Ай бұрын
The zen garden was hilarious, excellent work frost
@johnwarden3962
@johnwarden3962 Ай бұрын
Next week will we see how players and bad reviews made Sony bend a knee?
@yourself1210
@yourself1210 Ай бұрын
Can’t wait for that video
@tribblesfoxfolk
@tribblesfoxfolk Ай бұрын
But it wasn’t players and bad reviews, or at least not primarily. It was almost certainly that they pulled their product from storefronts AFTER RELEASE, after people had already spent money on it, effectively locking out anyone that lived in a country where PSN wasn’t available. They also silently changed their statement on the Sony site from “PS games on PC won’t require a PSN account” to “some PS games will require a PSN account on PC”. This is extremely illegal in many places, and some of the countries they delisted the game from are part of the EU, which means they were about to get sued by not just a few countries, but an entire coalition. Sony might have the money to fight a few countries off, especially poorer ones and those with fewer/no consumer protection laws, but they’re not going to be able to fend off the entire EU. They had to bend the knee to not immediately go out of business; no amount of corporate fuckery lets you escape THAT big of a lawsuit.
@Hawk7886
@Hawk7886 Ай бұрын
@@tribblesfoxfolk god I hope you're right. Considering you're a rando in a youtube comment, I won't hold my breath, but damn would it be sweet.
@tribblesfoxfolk
@tribblesfoxfolk Ай бұрын
@@Hawk7886 Good policy. I'll admit, I can't produce any hard evidence, so it's less of a theory and more of a hunch. I'm pretty confident with my hunch, though, considering one of the locations that got delisted was Metropolitan France, and France does NOT fuck around.
@Paladin314
@Paladin314 Ай бұрын
Love the rock garden
@armelior4610
@armelior4610 Ай бұрын
"Unheard" edition ? Those guys don't know about Star citizen, do they ? 250$ is nothing I guess "no lube edition" was considered too honest
@Darkprosper
@Darkprosper Ай бұрын
I was wondering if Star Citizen had a website to track their promises like this game has, but I suppose the number of things in "not implemented" and "broken" would crash the internet.
@austinlipnicki7761
@austinlipnicki7761 Ай бұрын
i love that i quit tarkov like 3 months before this drama, i jumped of a sinking ship, before the armoury exploded!
@Hawk7886
@Hawk7886 Ай бұрын
nice
@FranciscoAreasGuimaraes
@FranciscoAreasGuimaraes Ай бұрын
Excellent video! Loved the care to avoid "negative hype"
@Soul-Burn
@Soul-Burn Ай бұрын
"It's the only one you've heard about"... the others are "unheard"
@jcace13
@jcace13 Ай бұрын
Oh hey it’s the Phoenix Wright jazz album music in the background, spectacular choice.
@Grey-The-Skeleton
@Grey-The-Skeleton Ай бұрын
The Godot theme is the cherry on top, GOSH I love this channellllll
@justinrodriguez5957
@justinrodriguez5957 Ай бұрын
Yeesh. Also, absolutely cultured for using the Jazz Rendition of Ace Attorney's Godot.
@drcarte
@drcarte Ай бұрын
Engagement for the algorithm
@cthulhuthedark5696
@cthulhuthedark5696 Ай бұрын
Reply for the algorithm
@janosd4nuke
@janosd4nuke Ай бұрын
Blood for the blood God, Korn for the cornflakes!
@jro4488
@jro4488 Ай бұрын
Feed it. Make it grow fat with your comments.
@ugosmith7529
@ugosmith7529 Ай бұрын
Rabble rabble
@lancecarlisle1749
@lancecarlisle1749 Ай бұрын
Calories incoming!
@cocinecro
@cocinecro Ай бұрын
Yet another great video! I have in recent weeks started looking forward to Cold Take as much as I have Fully Ramblomatic. Well done, and keep this great content coming!
@ethanbell6762
@ethanbell6762 Ай бұрын
It's a lucky day to be Frost. What with this and Sony being Silly with Helldivers 2, he doesn't have to spend a lot of time trying to think of Next week's topic
@Riboshom
@Riboshom Ай бұрын
I've listened to pretty much all Second Wind Cold Take episodes, and only just noticed how the background music has at least one long motif from Godot's theme (Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations), especially noticeable from 1:20 to 1:50.
@SkylerLinux
@SkylerLinux Ай бұрын
Damn your voice really helps that whole calm stone garden vibes
@S_Crystal9217
@S_Crystal9217 Ай бұрын
Absolute complete sidenote: Did anyone else think the sandpit was fun to watch? Raking with the stones in the sand. Now, what to do with all that? XD 5:18 - Bro, Poolseidon? Okay, you got me there. 6:58 - Aww, the stop-motion fish! That's fun. Stop motion may be a bit time consuming, but it is satisfying when done nicely. :D
@BlindProphet413
@BlindProphet413 Ай бұрын
Nice choice of music, the Fragrance of Dark Coffee...
@Hawkatana
@Hawkatana Ай бұрын
Holy shit, Godot's theme.
@EmeralBookwise
@EmeralBookwise Ай бұрын
Not exactly the same thing, but I'm very much reminded of games selling a premium deluxe edition that promises in big bold letters to include ALL DLC, but when you look at the fine print what is actually included is just the season pass, meaning any other DLC not explicitly part of the season pass is still extra. Heck, even season passes themselves often fall foul to similar confusions, when customers think they are getting EVERYTHING on hyoe, only to realize afterwards there had been an itemized list of what was actually included in the fine print.
@archersterling6726
@archersterling6726 Ай бұрын
Frost must have the Helldivers 2 script ready for next week lol
@ninacochrane569
@ninacochrane569 Ай бұрын
To be fair, that whole thing happened over the course of 3ish days and only wrapped with Sony walking back on the decision earlier today. No time to edit it yet.
@archersterling6726
@archersterling6726 Ай бұрын
@@ninacochrane569 Yeah it was just a comment, not a complaint. Don't worry, we chillin here
@Peterbyte
@Peterbyte Ай бұрын
I can't wait for the upcoming helldivers video
@Ce_Jay
@Ce_Jay Ай бұрын
Great video! well done! the 'namaste' at the end got me better then it should have XD
@squatzandoatz92
@squatzandoatz92 Ай бұрын
Great video (as is to be expected from Second Wind), and I just wanted to say that this is quickly becoming one of my "must click" video series in my YT feed. I always know I'm in for a treat.
@devlincognito5005
@devlincognito5005 Ай бұрын
I was so hoping you would get ahold of this, I'm so pleased to hear your take, however cold it is.
@TheUndeadslayer221
@TheUndeadslayer221 Ай бұрын
The perfect man for the job when it comes to narration.
@AbbreviatedReviews
@AbbreviatedReviews Ай бұрын
I've never been a fan of negative hype. I prefer positive suppression.
@sraegamitlu
@sraegamitlu Ай бұрын
Love me some cold take
@artistcomplex
@artistcomplex Ай бұрын
Dam, a thoughtful and observant critique of the situation, and yet all I can think about now is why don't I have a miniature Zen garden?
@jakehumprhries8663
@jakehumprhries8663 Ай бұрын
Ah is that a slow version of Godot’s theme from Ace Attorney in the background? Love that music ☕️
@icewolf6062
@icewolf6062 Ай бұрын
This is easily becoming one of my favorite series on this channel.
@SageWon-1aussie
@SageWon-1aussie Ай бұрын
That's a hard call for me, they are all so freakin' good...
@vincentdemarco1665
@vincentdemarco1665 Ай бұрын
KZfaq hid this video from me. Despite my watching every Monday and it always being at the top of my feed I had to go hunting for it after the Patreon reminder email
@OrangeGenerator
@OrangeGenerator Ай бұрын
Using a Zen Garden background and negative hype while discussing gaming controversies is a good standard.
@pinstripeowl
@pinstripeowl 29 күн бұрын
I really appreciate your exploration on these issues in gaming as they continue to appear
@doublejesusful
@doublejesusful Ай бұрын
Cold Take and hot coffee
@christopherlee7334
@christopherlee7334 Ай бұрын
Best music choice to go with this!
@espio87
@espio87 Ай бұрын
As the story progresses, Frost's sand box stops being raked and he then pulls out a hammer.
@khawajadotd
@khawajadotd Ай бұрын
Lets hope that "negative hype" gets properly transferred into "Streisand effect"
@earllovings7034
@earllovings7034 Ай бұрын
The Fragrance of Dark Coffee, a light rain/thunderstorm, and an endless loop of Frosts voice over *chef's kiss*. Cold Take without a Break to go to sleep to for some would be a good thing. Just saying
@Typical7
@Typical7 Ай бұрын
that little stopmotion animation at the end was cute
@tatters8236
@tatters8236 Ай бұрын
I will say, I was flooded with positive hype when I saw the little fish in the sand garden.
@dustinhurst7562
@dustinhurst7562 Ай бұрын
I'm of the belief that if they had truthfully said, "We are losing money maintaining the game that people are enjoying because of a promise we made eight years ago." and then asked for some understanding from the player base, they'd have gotten some slack. As it's played out though I'm not convinced that things were so dire that what they did can be justified.
@GeorgeNoiseless
@GeorgeNoiseless Ай бұрын
Are Extraction Looters just mildly cursed? Escov from Tarkape over here weaseling around its unSustaniability, Dark and Darker exploring the intricacies of Corean Kopyright, SEGA's Hyena-fruit shriveling and rotting out on the vine just as it ripened...
@shpenki7927
@shpenki7927 Ай бұрын
tbh i watch your stuff more than yahtzee these days,. keep it up frost, youre doing awesome content
@emersonwright972
@emersonwright972 Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the breakdown of the situation.
@Texelion3Dprints
@Texelion3Dprints Ай бұрын
This mini sand garden quickly became quicksands for the devs and now they can't get out.
@Vanethen
@Vanethen Ай бұрын
the "negative hype" bit was hilarious. Love it.
@vailpcs4040
@vailpcs4040 Ай бұрын
Helldivers 2: Stumbles and manages to get back up... Tarkov: Hold my beer!
@abdoreda7126
@abdoreda7126 Ай бұрын
Awesome videos, keep them coming
@Asasnol21
@Asasnol21 Ай бұрын
i am engaged with this audiovisiual experience
@Gnomable
@Gnomable Ай бұрын
A games industry wide promise tracker is an incredible and sorely needed idea.
@404MULTIFAIL
@404MULTIFAIL Ай бұрын
I had no idea they like to selectively and maliciously copyright strike videos that they don't like, that's horrible.
@bobbenson6825
@bobbenson6825 Ай бұрын
Your noir approach is so appropriate to talking about corporate shenanigans and greed.
@everythingpony
@everythingpony Ай бұрын
1:36 correction, this was for the offline practice coop mode, which we got, offline pve is technically different
@tylerindersmith5480
@tylerindersmith5480 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate your content
@Ash-V
@Ash-V Ай бұрын
I love the play with the format here
@kalilak9701
@kalilak9701 Ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
Ай бұрын
Good man. I like the fallow through and address of presumed backlash. Remember to cover what you love!
@runescapefreak034
@runescapefreak034 Ай бұрын
The Fragrance of Dark Coffee...
@DanielAlves-dg9zg
@DanielAlves-dg9zg Ай бұрын
those little ceramic fish are adorable
@nemtudom5074
@nemtudom5074 Ай бұрын
I very much appreciate the hard journalism the world needs more of, but, i doubt your efforts will stop them from fradulently taking down the video
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping Ай бұрын
It's funny how much devs overlook the benefits of honesty and working with their community if money gets tight. If online costs are an issue and you don't have a recurring income source, throw up a "here's exactly what the servers cost us in detail" alongside an accurate donation tracker and a paypal link. Maybe the community will prefer cosmetics or some other mtx, then let them dictate that and provide some nice cosmetics. Hell, let community members create cosmetics that get sold and a portion of the income. Make the act of supporting the game a way of being part of the community and part of the fun, then you won't have any issues keeping servers up.
@Elvan-Lady
@Elvan-Lady Ай бұрын
"Tarkov's not the only one with this kind of problem, it's just the one you've heard about." Good reminder.
@dragonfrog23
@dragonfrog23 Ай бұрын
I miss the days when pre-orders involved physical things. For example, I preordered Resident Evil 5 way back in the day and got a little statue of Chris Redfield, and a few other things like an art book and a pouch with the Tricell logo. It only cost about $10 more. Now, I'd be lucky to even get a sticker for paying $50 more.
@PratzStrike
@PratzStrike Ай бұрын
I'm surprised the zen sand pit didn't end up flung out the office window by the end of this video.
@StickJock819
@StickJock819 Ай бұрын
Your Anti-Zen Garden is lovely.
@Darkerloaf
@Darkerloaf Ай бұрын
Thanks for reporting about this. Your contributions are always quality. As a long time fan of the game, BSG has totally soured me to their products. I definitely no longer trust them with my money.
@Christopher-me3nf
@Christopher-me3nf Ай бұрын
wait, you mean the company that sold pre-order for an unfinished game for 250$ is pulling some shady shit? Well I never would have imagined such a thing. How audacious! How totally unexpected! How shocking! I can totally see how EFT fans were caught blindsided by such a company - after all, they've always been such reasonable and level-headed folks.
@SeahamV2
@SeahamV2 Ай бұрын
I approve of the way this content was made, very intelligent.
@pneumaofthedreamrealm8977
@pneumaofthedreamrealm8977 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight and chill vibes Frost. It’s always interesting to see more about how games and communities interact. On a related note, I recently heard there’s been another victory for democracy. And this time it’s not against bugs or bots
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw Ай бұрын
the one thing we can give them credit for is keeping people like Frost fed. Juicy content, ripe for the picking
@unavezms8167
@unavezms8167 Ай бұрын
"I don't think them malicious or incompetent, because I can't prove it. Based on their actions I wouldn't trust them with my money". Well said.
@grindcoreninja6527
@grindcoreninja6527 Ай бұрын
The difference between how Arrowhead and BSG have handled their respective controversies is incredible.
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