It is

Because it is and 2 rotational players too. By the end of the game they had 5 with season ending injuries and 2 with major injuries.

What happens when you don't utilize your roster, then you end up having to use the guys you don't use then they look lost.

It is lol

@@ignaziobowen9217 we can make excuses. WE are not in the NBA. The Knicks would sweep the pacers if healthy.

No real fans anyway

I’ve been a Knick fan for 20 years and I’m blaming thibs lol

Thank You For Being Honest. Only Media Make Believe

Right the media player haters .

No, ya'll only said it all year

The media is looking at Thibs track record. He drove my Bulls in the ground. DRose was playing in a game late when the Bulls were up. There was no need to have him on the court. DRose got injured changed his whole career. Jokim Noah was playing on 2 injured knees also. Thibs is a good coach but, he grinds his players in the ground.

He pulled OG in the first half because he knew he couldn’t go. Freak injuries this season not minutes. Nova guys played crazy minutes 2 injured in plays that have nothing to do with exhaustion. Bogie injury was a dirty play.

​@wedabrutes9048 Yall still whining about your only star in the last 20 years being made of glass and playing like a foo? He was too explosive for his own good.

The media hasn't pointed any fingers. Everyone in the media is defending Thibs.

Thank you!!!!

Great y'all ain't going nowhere and perhaps should put a clinic in your Knicks gym

What about Leon Rose? What about Brunson?

@@25lighters91 most of the injuries were freak injuries due to contact not fatigue related injuries.

Noones arguing anything except is he a detriment to the players health thats the fkn question

Yet he injured five players…again

😂😂

Knicks worked through injuries and 'next man up' to a level they get my MVP trophy for guts so far in these playoffs.

One thing we know for sure is that are bench is are 2nd starting 5, run it back again...

** GRAMMAR ALERT **

@@thekongstocks *** dumbazz alert ***

@@thekongstocks Is your gramma on alert? Last I checked she was gum-bumping dudes for $20 down off Crenshaw

Exactly what I was thinking...😂 No way that dude plays defense either lol I know bc he was on the Pacers

Bogey doesn't play defense😂

Thibs would’ve had a rotation if he used it during the regular season. Nobody is blaming him for the playoff rotations, but why tf are Brunson, DiVincenzo, Hart, and Anunoby playing 40 mins a night in the regular season?

Yall would have lost in the first round had the 76ers been healthy

He would’ve had Alex burks as well

​@@wilhelm4321If the Sixers were healthy they wouldn't have been the 7th seed.

@@wilhelm4321If both teams were healthy, Knicks beating the 76ers 95% of the time, stop it😂

Sims was unplayable,Burks unreliable.Not really a contender players.Boggy and OG were a miss injury wise this season,but a great players if healthy.

Mikal Bridges on the Knicks roster I think would fit in so well. Like you say, plays D and can score. A bit difficult to pull away from the Nets. The roster as it is if healthy would be fine to run it back with Thibs as coach. I think they could get some reinforcements through the draft. Not sure what the draft class looks like but I'd go for someone that's played 4 years of college ball and is NBA ready.

Mikal would make us worse and wouldn’t make us contenders. We would get killed in the paint by teams like Milwaukee, Philly and the teams out west. If we were to add him to the current team then that’s a good point but switching Randle and Mikal creates more questions than answering the current ones.

@@angelmercedes2029 Good point, but I do feel that Mikal would be a good fit as long as they don't give out the farm for him. Thinking of it now, it would be difficult to put him in a starting line up.

I wouldn't say perfect. He has done well in NY, but there are coaches out there who would have done a lot better.

Most Knicks fans i know do not love Thibs but are sitting quietly while they are winning. Watch how fast they turn on him if Brunson gets hurt next season playing the same amount of minutes.

Darvin ham ain't that good brother

Stop it lol u trying to compare them is to funny

​@@joshuaclarendon9829Lebron hire because he can walk all over him, rest and stat pad, no real desire to win just stack money off the LA brand.

​@@youngfleatwhat has thibs achieved......I'll wait

Timeout timeout time... If only he knew how to say those 2 words.

She needs to clear her throat though.

I'd rather listen to a more objective voice than someone who's obviously just a fan of the team.

@SPECIALK2342 Doesn't she work for the Knicks?

​@@Mo-yd8xc yeah she does ..it doesn't mean nothing ..what's real is real

Why did Monica's family think it was reasonable for their last name to be "McNutt?"

All media and non NYK Fans. Knicks Nation is good

Thibs always had 10 playable guys in the regular season. He didn't have to play Hartenstein all star minutes after the injuries. He's a backup center. Thibs played him like 38 minutes per game until he broke down. He could have played Precious more. He didn't have to play Josh Hart 40 minutes or Donte 38 minutes because Deuce and Bojan were available. Other coaches are able to get minutes out of "unplayable" players in the regular season. Especially plug and play players like Alec and Bojan. Jericho could have gotten some more burn. This team has talent. You guys keep acting like the squad is a bunch of bums that have to play it's best 5 players 40+ minutes just to compete. Thibs playoff minutes were just insane. He literally just played JB, Hart, and OG every single minute until they broke down. Nobody does that. Nobody. Not even Thibs. People keep talking about what Thibs did in the past but he never played anybody for 12 straight quarters before. There is a reason more successful coaches don't play their guys 48 minutes.

Loul Deng aged 10 years in 4 seasons

He ruined Derrick rose career

How?de Rose became a MVP because of tibs​@@patepic1046

@@patepic1046derrrick rose was glass, too athletic for his own body

@@patepic1046 You did as much to D Rose career as Thibs. Deng was injury prone before Thibs showed up and fun fact 2010-2012 the Heat played Wade / Bron / Bosh same minutes Thibs played Deng / Rose but you don't know that so it didn't happen right? I guess all those players back in the Bird / Magic days logging 40+ for all 82 games or Karl Malone era guys they all had their careers RUINED by overwork too? lol

Brunson was the main reason. I'm a knicks fan and we really need to stop overrating Thibs.

facts

You deserve more likes, he arguably ruined D. Rose's career. And for what? Deep playoff runs without a chip? Might be good for the Knicks but aint't no one cares without the big win.

Teams play guys bigger minutes in the playoffs. You make good points and fact is Thibs makes guy play both ways and keep the intensity up so really the issue isn't the minutes not 1 Knick logged more than 35mpg in the regular season its why don't other coaching staff insist guys play hard D nobody ragging J Kidd for that with Dallas cruising but he play his guys a ton of minutes in the playoffs too. Winning is hard. NBA is hard. You ask Brunson or J Hart they want 35 or 45 minutes in a big game they not asking to sit

She's tight 😂😂😂 i love it 😂

She's spot on. She admitted that Hart's injury could be playing time (not necessarily), but he wouldn't have played as much if not for the other injuries (which are more flukish than overwork).

Omg. I know it's just confirmation bias, but it's nice to see someone else understand. Everyone keeps screaming "he had to do it, he didn't have any players!" don't see Precious and Alec being productive??? Thibs had at least 9 solid guys who had proven they could play for him available while he was going with a 7 man rotation and playing guys insane minutes.

If you watched the regular season burks was unplayable

Basketball is all about matchups

@@justind.w8450 and if you watched the playoffs he was very playable. The fact that guys who thrive offensively elsewhere but struggle under Thibs might be a Thibs problem. Fournier, Burks, Obi, Bojan, and RJ all looked much better in other coach's offenses.

@@Michael_Page In the regular season he was a huge minus for us. Thibs was really trying to give him mins but he wasn’t earning them that’s why Bojan played in the playoffs and not burks. Plus it’s about styles. Bojan picked it up in the 6ers series. Fournier barely played a lot for DET, Obi style fits Indiana more, RJ needed to be a 1 or 2 option in NY he was always going to be the 3rd and it didn’t work. Thibs got them to a 2nd seed and turned Brunson and Randle into all-nba talent he gotta get some props

Top 10 player idk wym Brunson 10 now lol

@@youngfleat I'm talking about minutes played

@youngfleat Brunson was 14th in minutes. Had it not been for injuries he would of possibly played even less.

But why didn't the big Market team win!?🤬🥺 We all knew that this is what ESPN was going to be today

​@@jamesmiller5331exactly

I've been a Knicks fan since the 90s and it is obvious Thibs has very poor rotations. Guys are playing so many minutes because he can't read the game with subs.

@@sgame82 he don’t like playing guys that could potentially cost them games. We haven’t seen him with a full roster for a full season. We have the depth and for the few games we were mostly healthy we had a 9 man rotation I’m not sure what more y’all want him to do

@@realitycheck2482 Unless we are a championship contending team i want him to not over use his main guys when there are other guys who can get minutes. Like when we had Obi and Thibs would play him 8 minutes or less a game and Randle would break down at the end of the season.

@@sgame82 fair enough but when you’re trying to build a culture at the beginning, playing obi more might have resulted in them not making that first playoff run. Maybe not but honestly he still the same guy on the pacers that he was here. Not good at defense really. Sporadic shot. Athletic. Makes dumb in game decisions like going between the legs for a dunk in a playoff game. So I don’t blame thibs for not playing him more when he was probably even less mature than he is even now 🤷‍♂️ I personally don’t want to see bad players or unserious players getting more minutes for any reason. We had 20 years of that and it got us nowhere. If the players simply don’t have freak injuries this year then Josh hart doesn’t get overused. OG doesn’t have to play back to back to back 40+ minutes. I’m tired of the notion players are playing too much. We didn’t have a player in the top 10 in minutes played this season until the cascade of injuries in the playoffs.

@@realitycheck2482 Yes the playoffs. We had guys playing heavy minutes in the first round while Precious who was great for us in the season got zero playing time for a couple games until there was another injury. Thibs does not use his whole team thats available which is my main issue. Sure some of these injuries are just random injuries but who is to say if there bodies had a little more rest that that they might perform a little better. I'm not saying sit players for entire games just reduce the workload in games.

Not even close, Derrick Rose was already not the same player, averaging 16 points per game, Gasol was averaging 16 points per game, Jimmy Butler was on the rise, averaging 20 points per game, and Joakim was not the same, averaging 4 points per game. The Knicks have Brunson at 28 points per game, Randle at 24 points per game, Divincenzo at 15 points per game, and OG at 15 points per game. The Knicks also have a better bench, and once they add another scorer, this team will compete for a championship.

Facts

@@Jay953 I’ll give Brunson and that’s it. The rest you mentioned are bums lol.

Same scenario with DRose. Shouldnt have been in a blowout game that was won already

But that is part of the culture. He lets players get their numbers so they can get their contracts. Randle shouldn't have been getting the minutes/shots he was getting in general.

the heat still had their starters in. You comfortable up 15 4 min to go with a full heat team playing?

Not true at all. Wasn’t a blowout

And that is why I will not ever understand why Dolan didn’t stand pat and go get a real GM in someone like Masai instead of a ex agent who doesn’t really know ball like that and how to evaluate talent! Just big game hunting and using ex player relationships instead of player development and smart drafting.

Exact definition of Insanity

Injuries buddy

The Timberwolves are the proof; he developed KAT & Ant-Man as stars, but they weren’t moving far with him at the helm. With a different coach, those same Wolves are in the conference finals. Same with Celtics 2008, he’s the defensive/ development coach, but it’s Doc’s team.

Agreed. New coach needed for a title.

Playoff minutes go up guys play all 48 sometimes... This myth that Thibs overworks guys is hilarious when not 1 player on his roster avg more than 35 mpg this past season and right now many other teams are playing their dawgs the same as Knicks guys so maybe stop letting ESPN make you mad about sh!t you can fact check yourself

@@jankevinsalvacion9621Get your facts straight. He didn’t develop Ant Man. He wasn’t even coaching there when he was drafted. Further more , real players like playing. That’s why Michael Jordan played 82 games a year 10 times. 40 plus minutes a game. Randle fell on his shoulder, that wasn’t Thibbs fault. Bogdanovic broke his ankle, not Thibbs fault. OG has a history of injuries, Thibbs never coached him until this year. It’s not the game that wears players out, it’s the practice. He doesn’t practice players hard anymore. That’s why this team likes playing for him.

Guess Pacers fans wanted Celtics more? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You said the whole part that the media is purposely choosing to overlook because of NYC’s media market and Knick relevance meaning more money league and TV wise. The roster is dated our so-called stars are closer to 30 than 25 and we still have no real player development because Thibs doesn’t play his bench most nights and Rose is just using his extra agent skills in relation to drawing players to NY. Where is the player development? Where is the smart drafting? When this experiment flames out (and it will) it will be said that the last real GM’s we had were Donnie and Glenn. The last player we developed was KP and everything before that has been someone past their prime is a throwaway. It’s insulting that ESPN is purposely acting like this roster isn’t old and could actually beat Steph,Jamal, Zach,Curry throw in a random 4 on any night! Never mind that 94 or 99 team ! Ridiculous!

Also, I’ve always liked Brunson, but he really became a shot hunter the last 2 games and I felt that he helped shoot us out the game early by not looking to set a rhythm to get others involved earlier. I really felt like him being left off the 1st team AS and being overlooked for Paris was really fueling him, but it started to work against him the last few games.😑 Very good player, but towards the end I was reminded of Isiah Thomas of Boston and that historic run. We all know how that ended.

@@jayjay8430 spot on! When we hired Leon with the 6th worst record & Leon turned around & hired WWW & Thibs I knew how this would turn out. Thibs doesn’t rebuild & is always in win now mode. Why would a team with the 6th worst record try to be in win now mode when they have nothing close to a roster capable. They skipped the most important steps from jump & once you do that you’re always building everything backwards. A smart Front Office would have been rebuilding through the draft lottery for a couple of years to have a young core of 21-23 y/o kids to move forward with & the make needed additions around that. Also Thibs has never built great rosters either. It’s usually 1 or 2 guys with a bunch of hard nosed scrappy role players. The things you & I are saying will get met with negativity from our fanbase but we’re telling the harsh truth. The Knicks need experienced basketball guys for a Front Office like a Sam Presti or Raphael Stone not sports agents who don’t know how to evaluate talent or skillsets. The revolving circle of the Knicks where times move on but somehow things never change.

He absolutely is, but when you look at these specific injuries, it doesn't look like that's what happened this time. Hart might be the exception, but Thibs' hands were tied at that point.

Expect another yr of injuries under thibs

😂😂😂😂 so clueless.

No we won’t . Not under Dolan and not under Tibbs. And if they don’t trade Mitchell Robinson and Julius Randle they are really screwed.

Lol you won't beat pacers, 76ers, or bucks next year. Brunson is a poor man's AI

Not with these glass made dudes

I don't remember all the injuries but we definitely were not healthy those two years. Mitchell Robinson was hurt against the Hawks. Julius Randle was exhausted. Last year Randle was worn down and injured again before the playoffs. This year Randle is hurt in January and misses the playoffs. Robinson is hurt again. OG is hurt again because Thibs wants to play an injury prone player who was hurt before the playoffs 40 minutes a game.

Don't be a LeGM 😂😂