Espresso at Home: Appliance vs. Machine, Entry-Level Options
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4 жыл бұрынComparison of 2 entry-level options for home espresso. A live look and demo of the Gaggia Classic Pro and Gaggia Carezza De LUXE. The Classic Pro is a best value machine grade premium entry-level product. The capable and lower cost Carezza De LUXE has unique features making it a standout among appliance grade products for quick, easy and affordable espresso at home. Both products can get you into home espresso without a grinder. Learn about the features and capabilities of each product and find out which best fits your needs and budget. In this video we’ll pull espresso shots, froth milk and make a flat white on each machine.
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@Calspro 4 жыл бұрын
The shoutout to his kids was the most wholesome thing I've seen all day :')
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Calvin Owens Thanks for the comment! Marc
@MrArdytube 4 жыл бұрын
“Your espresso journey....”. Definitely it is a journey. Much more of a journey than is obvious in the beginning. OTOH, very rewarding to get better and better.... to the point where the local coffee bar can be disappointing. Thanks for your videos Marc. ....
@bringrewal 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ve just bought the Gaggia Classic 2019 in the UK after your last advice comparing Appliance grade v Machine grade Filter machines. 😎🇬🇧B
@mgarwatoski 4 жыл бұрын
Loved all the live streams. Hope now you can get to work on that Crem One so I can pick one up ASAP.
@jwdawso 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ll be missing the regular Tu-Th, but I’ll fill that need from your older ones.
@WastelandProject 8 ай бұрын
Gaggia Classic Pro for life. I have a Gaggia Carezza Deluxe, I eliminated the native pressurized filter holder and replaced it with a classic one, unfortunately the pressure needs to be lowered by replacing the spring in the OPV. While with the Classic you just need to unscrew a couple of screws and the cover, the Carezza has a series of plastic pieces set together that need to be dismantled, there is a very serious risk of breaking the fasteners. The switches are also better in the Classic Pro. Having said that, now my coffee is excellent, Gaggia Carezza Delxue is always a Gaggia.
@Wholelattelovepage 8 ай бұрын
Hey WP, Thanks for sharing! Marc
@wierexcat 4 жыл бұрын
Achille Gaggia! Btw, I just bought those two types of beans on your recommendation... can’t wait for them to arrive!
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi WtC, You are correct - thanks for playing! Do let us know what you think of the Maromas Orphea and Lavazza Super Crema. Marc
@sayidaakhmerova2935 4 жыл бұрын
Mark u r amazing! Thank You!
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi SA, Well thank you for the comment! Marc
@TheVedabuss 3 жыл бұрын
Great job very informative for this appliance using coffee lover, Gaggia will be a birthday present and I can't wait!
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi TV, Thanks for the comment and happy birthday! Here's a link to our support wiki for Gaggia machines. It has a ton more useful info including videos, how to's, manuals etc: wiki.wholelattelove.com/Gaggia Marc
@TheVedabuss 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage what a top guy you are, big thanks to you Marc!
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
TheVedabuss thanks. My pleasure to help you out!
@christopherreily1895 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of espresso makes for a super energetic grandpa! Hope you get lots of time with Levi in the coming year.... My Jack leveler arrives tomorrow. Thanks WLL
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Christopher, Thanks for the comment. I hope I get time with him too! Enjoy your Jack! When using be sure and keep the exterior wall of the leveling head free of residual ground coffee! Marc
@christopherreily1895 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the tip Marc, will do.
@bitgwa 4 жыл бұрын
When are you getting the ECM Synchronika olive wood accessories in stock?
@Greatone999 4 жыл бұрын
Looking to spend $500-$1000 on an entry level machine. What would you personally recommend?
@peterd5242 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of buying a Gran gaggia, or even the Carezza, but this was before I knew there was a difference between pressurised and non-pressurised. I want an upgrade on Nespresso so I can enjoy nice coffee beans, but I’m worried the flavour might get lost now on a pressurised machine, yet is a non-pressurised machine difficult to get right for a novice? Should I spend the extra and get the Gaggia Classic, or is the Gran/Carezza still a quality and reliable machine?
@eraldmulla8154 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, loved the video and loved even more that Gaggia Classic. I know you sell them refurbished after doing demos like this. I have kept an eye for such a long time on your store.... Is there a way to get notified when a refurbished Gaggia is available for purchase? Please let me know. Big fan of the channel! Greetings!
@eraldmulla8154 4 жыл бұрын
No response?
@David_Keith 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Marc. I have the older Gaggia Classic (around 2014), and am thinking of upgrading to the Sage (Breville) Dual Boiler machine. I would appreciate your advice. Thanks again. David
@GCWieser 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Breville makes good products, but what about a Profitec Pro 300?
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi David, Many people like the BDB. It packs in a lot of features for the price. What concerns me a bit is the appliance grade build. Not the same level of quality/durability as the Italian machines made by hand. If you treat the BDB right it can provide years of service. But, down the road if it needs a repair it may not be worth it. The Italian machines are very repairable and can run for decades. As GC Wieser suggested the Profitec Pro 300 is a similarly priced alternative in a machine grade product. Hope that helps! Marc
@David_Keith 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Many thanks for the advice Marc! David
@LandsoulFFXI 4 жыл бұрын
I have tried maromas orphea was surprised they are actually pretty good for a non fresh roasted makes a lot of crema too. A lot of commercial packaged coffee beans are not that great for me but Maromas have been pretty good. Maromas won't beat a freshly roasted beans from a high quality roaster but for the price cost its pretty good for the price comparable to what other commercial packaged beans cost.
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi UC, Thanks for the input sharing your impressions of Maromas Orphea. You are right, this type of coffee does not depend on freshness (and cost a lot less!) than fresh roasted specialty beans. It gets consistent 4.5/5 star reviews from customers. Marc
@annenoir9409 3 жыл бұрын
You did a great job explaining the Gaggia carezza to me. Thank you!
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome glad it was helpful! Marc
@thensquaredcouple 3 жыл бұрын
Hi whole latte love, I've been watching your videos since I got a espresso maker. I'm totally new to making espresso and stuffs, I hardly find reviews on Hamilton beach espresso machine, because that's what I have. Can you tell me what your view on that brand ? I've been trying your tips for beginners from making shots to making latte art, but I can't seen to get it even though I'm doing your steps & tips so I'm thinking if its because of my machine. Thanks for these videos, it helps a lot. ☺️😇
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi QG, Thanks for the kind comment and question. Not sure exactly what model you have but anything from Hamilton Beach is going to fall into the entry-level appliance category. At that level, espresso makers are lacking in capability. That said, they are a reasonable place to start with espresso. To go to the next level you will need a more capable machine and a decent grinder to pair with it. The Gaggia Classic Pro is a great next step! Marc
@thensquaredcouple 3 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love hi Marc! Thanks for this🤗 I'll consider getting a better one. More power & God bless! 😇
@jpbecome7905 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mark, is a higher-end grinder (800$ value for example) can improve coffee quality made from an appliance such as a Delonghi? Or it doesn't change anything?
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi JP, Thanks for the question. If it's a Delonghi machine which uses a pressurized filter basket - typical on Delonghi machines then grinder upgrade will not do much. Don't get me wrong, better grind usually results in better espresso but in pressurized filter baskets super accurate grind size is not as critical as it is in standard non-pressurized filter basket. So quality increase with better grind is marginal. Marc
@abuzaryakaram6907 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, do you happen to ship outside the US/Canada ? I’m located in Asia. Great videos btw 👍
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Abuzar, Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately we do not ship outside US. :( Marc
@MarcesAurelius 4 жыл бұрын
do you think that the space between the double walls of these pressurized baskets get a buildup of coffee gunk?
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I believe they do. Just makes sense that they would. I'll be honest I have very little personal experience with dual wall pressurized baskets as I very rarely use them. If I did I would soak them in a product like Cafiza to get the gunk out. Marc
@wR3BORNw 4 жыл бұрын
They definitely do. In some of the sealed dual walled (multi hole into single hole) units they can completely clog up and then it's game over for that basket. Delonghi have had that issue on the sealed unit and replacements from them now come with the top part being removable probably due to the amount of RMAs.
@pendchode 4 жыл бұрын
Marc dude, what is your experience/opinion of the Delonghi Scultura manual pump espresso machine?
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi B420, It's an appliance grade product and uses a pressurized filter basket. It's an option if using pre-ground or ESE pods but not capable of same espresso quality as a non-pressurized filter basket filled with whole beans ground fresh. Marc
@user-qx5ex8lu4v 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video! Can I use a naked portafilter and a non-pressurized basket with the carezza? will it make much of a difference?
@Wholelattelovepage 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the question. While Gaggia does not make a non-pressurized filter basket or bottomless PF for the Carezza there may be some available from 3rd party manufacturers. Keep in mind the Carezza was is intended to use a pressurized filter basket so results from 3rd party parts are unknown. Additionally, the maximum coffee dose in the Carezza is less than what you can put in a 58mm standard portafilter. If you move up to the machine grade Gaggia Classic it comes with both pressurized and non-presurized filter baskets, 58mm commercial size and weight portafilter and a naked portafilter is available: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/portafilters-and-filter-baskets/products/gaggia-bottomless-portafilter The naked portafilter comes with a triple shot basket too! That will make a huge difference! Marc
@user-qx5ex8lu4v 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you very much!
@MaximDupliy 3 жыл бұрын
Hi . Will the Saeco (DB) royal Pro yoy reviewed in 2012 will give same espresso quality as Gaggia Classic?
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi MD, Thanks for the question. The Classic, driven with skill and served by a decent grinder, can produce a better espresso. Marc
@kashdevingle 4 жыл бұрын
Hey.. what would you advise for a solid coffee machine that doesnt break bank but has enough options? I got one from low end which is Philips lattego and medium which is Gaggia Babila.
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kash, Thanks for the question. My current daily driver automatic machine is the Gaggia Babila. Been using it in the studio for a couple of years now. One of the most solid machines made with lot's of metal in the housing. I've used the Gaggia Accademia for extended periods as well. It's nearly identical feature wise to the Babila but costs less. Here's a video comparing those 2 machines: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbKZlbliyc3bmXk.html Marc
@kashdevingle 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you Marc! Babila it is!!!!!
@eleanorpanico4098 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Nice video - it seems you are using a different portafilter than the one shown on the product site - can you advise what the portafilter is in your video and where I can buy? It seems sturdy and slightly more sophisticated than the one provided with the machine.
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi EP, Thanks for the comment. Portafilters in the video came in the box with machines. There are portafilters for the Gaggia Classic here - including a new wood handled option: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/portafilters-and-filter-baskets?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Gaggia Marc
@eleanorpanico4098 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the quick reply!! Also - I really prefer a dry capp - does the steam wand on the Carezza result in a good amount of air introduction and that really significant foam? Before it broke, my de'Longhi e680 wand worked really well compared to others i had used like the Breville Bambino, which doesn't seem to introduce the amount of air i want.
@angel_falls_creative 4 жыл бұрын
What would you suggest as an upgrade to a Breville Pro Grinder for pourovers, French press and espresso making?
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi afp, Thanks for the question. I'd have a look at the Baratza Vario: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baratza-vario-grinder-w-metal-portaholder IMO about the best all purpose grinder. Quick to make large grind size changes and easy to return to a previous grind setting. Much better build quality than the SGP. Marc
@angel_falls_creative 4 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love thank you!!! I was looking at that! Also what would complement it as I upgrade from a Capresso EC PRO?
@karenl.3388 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, I'm a new Whole Latte Love customer and I'm anxiously awaiting delivery of a new Silvia. I've watched and read everything you guys do. Love it all. I feel like I've learned so much, thank you!!! The question I have is...what about decaf coffee? I love the craft and ritual of espresso but must mostly drink decaf. Can you give us information on dialing in good decaf shots on machines like the Gaggia Classic or the Rancilio Silvia?
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Karen, thanks for your comment, question and patronage. Dialing in for decaf is no different. The key is finding a whole bean decaf coffee that you enjoy. Marc
@karenl.3388 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc. Any recommendations for a good decaf?
@cmacd8879 4 жыл бұрын
Karen L. - our house also uses both decaf and regular beans (in an original 2004 Silvia!); in our case more regular. Hence our grinder normally has regular beans in it, and weekly or when needed I grind a 'batch' of decaf, stored in a sealed plastic container, that gets dipped into for decaf shots. I find the decaf beans usually to be drier than a regular med-dark roast, so perfect shots need one click finer grind on our Rancilio Rocky grinder while grinding the 'batch', (but as Marc says dialing in is the same process). You might be just the reverse if your house just occasionally uses regular beans.
@karenl.3388 4 жыл бұрын
C Macd thank you for the information. Helpful tip!
@davelasker 4 жыл бұрын
Does the max pressure on the Classic Pro need to be reduced to 9 bar for best results? If the answer is yes, are you able to adjust its OPV before shipping a machine out to a customer?
@Sevy316 4 жыл бұрын
The new gaggia classic cannot adjust the OPV. I believe it takes physical modifications to the valve spring. But works great as is!
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi S, Thanks for chiming in. I agree! I gave a detailed explanation in another comment here regarding pressure. Gaggia set the machine to provide a proper flow rate. With dialed in grind brew pressure will be ~9 bar. Marc
@rabendranath 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question: When I press the brew switch on the Gaggia Classic Pro and the extraction starts, does it stop automatically or do I have to manually press the switch off to stop the extraction?
@rabendranath 4 жыл бұрын
@@kubicccek Ok, thanks!
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi k, Thanks for pitching in. Marc
@marktoro2380 4 жыл бұрын
My Baratza Sette 270at #3 #4 grind is coming way fast for 16 grams. Do I need to calibrate this grinder before using?
@Sevy316 4 жыл бұрын
The times will differ based on beans & grind size . And 2 sette 270s side by side will differ as well. On mine, 16g at a typical espresso grind size on the sette 270 figure may be close to 4.3 seconds plus or minus 1 whole second depending on bean density and grind setting. Some Settes come with a shim installed. so without the shim, you may be at #3, where as with it youd be closed to #6 or #7
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Sevy316, Thanks for helping! All true!!! Marc
@maor44 3 жыл бұрын
the Gaggia Carezza Deluxe come with 54 or 58 portafilter?
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi 1, Thanks for the question. According to our specs it's a 53mm. Here are all the specs: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-carezza-deluxe#product-specs Marc
@fender2551 Жыл бұрын
I like the Classic Pro but to clarify - is its boiler an aluminum container to heat the water? I'm a bit concerned about that and would prefer stainless steel. Thank for a helpful and informative video!
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
HI JG, the Classic Pro boiler is aluminum. At the moment the lowest priced machine with a stainless boiler we carry is the Profitec Pro 400. It's a big step up from the Classic with E61 group, heat-exchange boiler for simultaneous brew and steam, dual brew and boiler pressure gauge and much higher price: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/semi-automatic-espresso-machines/products/profitec-pro-400-espresso-machine#product-specs The Bezzera New Hobby is a single boiler machine with a nickel plated brass boiler and lowest price for a machine grade product that does not have an aluminum boiler: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/semi-automatic-espresso-machines/products/bezzera-new-hobby-espresso-machine-in-red Hope that helps! Marc
@fender2551 Жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks so much for the quick reply ! And the Gaggia Carezza De LUXE does not have an aluminum boiler, or at least I read the boiler is clad with stainless steel? I may go for that one if thats the case.
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
@@fender2551 NP, the Carezza use a stainless steel lined thermoblock to heat water and create steam. Basically a stainless steel tube which spirals through an aluminum heating block. Water does not contact the aluminum. Marc
@Dan-bt1cr Жыл бұрын
Could a different porta filter or non pressurized basket be used on the Carezza?
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, Carezza is designed to be used with the specialized pressurized PF it comes with. Marc
@Dan-bt1cr Жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Marc, thank you for the reply! Trying to decide if the Carezza is the one for me. Coming from a capsule machine so a complete novice. The Carezza checks all of the boxes off at the price, just wasn’t sure if I wanted to be locked in with only using the specialized pressurized porta filter.
@egosinenomine7038 3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to have close up when making the espresso!
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi SN, Here's the Carezza making some espresso: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nt9of9mi0pmbXY0.html And the Gaggia Classic Pro doing the same: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gsuhetefqJ_SpKs.html Marc
@RobHTech Жыл бұрын
I don't get it. What exactly is the difference between Appliance Grade and Machine Grade? They both seem like a machine to me. Is the machine one not using heat and pressure to make the espresso?
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Hi R, Thanks for the question. Machine grade products: made mostly of metal, use commercial size/weight 58mm portafilters, very repairable if needed, use a real boiler, have better thermal characteristics. Appliance grade: a lot of plastic used in construction, smaller/lighter portafilter, not as repairable, use thermoblock boilers (spiral tube through a block of metal). Hope that helps! Marc
@1101naomi 4 жыл бұрын
What does it mean when you pull your portafilter out after using and there’s water sitting on top? I have profitec pro 600
@Sevy316 4 жыл бұрын
Either 3 way solenoid not functioning properly or more likely just to much headspace. (Maybe not not grams in ur basket) . If I use 18g in my 21g basket guaranteed water at top. If I use 20 g, comes out perfectly dry
@1101naomi 4 жыл бұрын
Sevy316 I use an 18g basket and typically put in 17.5g
@Sevy316 4 жыл бұрын
@@1101naomi the coarseness of the grind can affect too. Finer grind 17.5 will sit much lower than coarser 17.5. Baskets can vary too. I can put 17 g in my 14g basket and it comes out perfect as well. I'm not an expert on ur machine so I'll let other respond. But just offering one observation on portafilter fill
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi naomi, Thanks for the question. As @Sevy316 mentioned it could be too much headspace. But sounds like you are using a reasonable dose for the basket. There may be coffee particles and/or accumulated oils gunking up the works. How does your shower screen look? Need to keep that clean and backflush your machine with a product like Cafiza to keep the interior of the group clean for good flow out of the group. Hope that helps. If everything is clean and you're still having excess water if in the US you can always give our coffee pros a call at 585-924-7170 and they'd be happy to help. Marc
@1101naomi 4 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love Thank you for replying. I backflushed recently and I do a water only one everyday I use my machine. I also just replaced my shower screen and gasket with the nano one a month ago or so. But I have been having a lot of problems dialing in my shots as well so idk what’s going on. I have water sitting in top of the coffee but it’s also coming out a bit too fast. I will call The number you provided to see what they can do for me. Thank you again.
@ilbsli 4 жыл бұрын
The second camera’s video need to be a little bit delayed as it’s not synced with the audio
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi 18, Yep! Technical limitation. The tighter cameras are iPhones one XR and an 11Pro. Turns out the worst delay offender is the newest model. Marc
@ilbsli 4 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love From what I see it looks ahead of time not delayed which means you can add a delay to the iPhone video on your mixer to fix it
@patrickbennett439 Жыл бұрын
I did a 1:2 ratio on my machine and it came out a tad sour, seems like 1:3 or even 1:4 comes out best and sweeter. Maybe its my pressurized basket, maybe its my cheap machine, or maybe its my grind size, however probably not grind size because i have a pressurized portafilter. Not sure what variable makes my volume higher than it seems like these videos use.
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Hi Pb, Grind size can make a difference in a pressurized filter basket. Not as dramatic as it is in a non-pressurized basket but it will change flavor. To correct for sour shots try making the grind finer and/or using more ground coffee. Marc
@patrickbennett439 Жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Yes i will try these things. Thanks. Love your videos.
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
@@patrickbennett439 NP!
@bradleyjones6269 3 жыл бұрын
Do you pre-infused with this machine
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bradley, the Gaggia Carezza Deluxe does have built-in pre-infusion. While this isn't a designed feature on the Gaggia Classic Pro, here's a trick to unlock custom pre-infusion: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9WKqLySqdeZqZc.html
@davethetaswegian 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest a better entry level appliance would be the Breville Barista Express. Feature wise it sits somewhere between these two. It has several advantages over the Carezza. Inclusion of both pressurised and unpressurised baskets, a proper, if still 54mm, portafilter, solenoid valve, adjustable PID temperature control and, as a cherry on top, a burr grinder. For someone new to home espresso it is still easy to start with but allows a lot more room to develop skills and experiment with before moving up to a proper machine. Of course, for anyone not interested in the coffee making process just get a fully automatic.
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi David, Thanks for sharing your opinion. A product like the Barista Express can make sense. Combo grinder/machine appliances do make me a bit nervous. It does pack in a lot of features although I'm fairly certain PID is not one of them. Marc
@davethetaswegian 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, I totally agree about the integrated grinder. For me the Barista Express has been a great way to get into making espresso at home, but it lacks the fine control and consistency of a true machine. The coffee I get from it ranges from okay to good even when I think I have it dialed in. If I was buying again today, I would choose something a little more up market and a good quality grinder. The Barista Express manual does claim that it has a PID and you can adjust it up or down by a couple of degrees.
@StFlp 4 жыл бұрын
Can the Gaggia Classic Pro be backflushed?
@Sevy316 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it can
@GCWieser 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi StFlp, Thanks for the question. Those that beat me to the response are correct. Marc
@StFlp 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you everyone 😊
@marktoro2380 4 жыл бұрын
Giovanni Archilles Gaggia developed and patented the espresso machine in 1938.
@billredding2000 4 жыл бұрын
Luigi Bezzera did it in 1901...but I'm guessing espresso machines go back farther. -- BR
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, Thanks for the response. Bezzera's machines back then used steam. Incidentally, I spent some time with Luigi's great, great, grandson Luca a couple of years ago at their production facility near Milan. Even went to the castle in Milan and found the inspiration for the Bezzera logo. If interested here a video from my visit which includes a factory tour: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb9hZ7F1nMWpqKc.html Marc
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, Correct - thanks for playing! Marc
@billredding2000 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Well, I still think of him as one of the "Founding Fathers" of the espresso scene. And as one site said, "Luigi Bezzerra and Desiderio Pavoni were the Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs of espresso." When I saw the date 1938, I thought that was WAY too "current events." IMO, whenever it was being called "espresso," then that's how far back it goes, no matter how it was made. Wish I had the opportunity like you did to go visit Italy and espresso equipment making companies (such as VBN also in Milan) -- but all I got to see was this video by Rocket: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdeBjLWCps61aJs.html My "virtual tour" of a typical prosumer-class espresso machine "factory." Still, I'm pretty sure what you see here is how MOST of the prosumer espresso machines are made in Italy -- by relatively small companies and mostly family-run (Mom & Pop)...so I just "extrapolate" from this Rocket video to see how the OTHER brands are made. But presently, given the raging virus-crisis, NOW is not the BEST time to go to Italy? ;-) Happy Flow-Controlling, -- BR
@patrickbennett439 Жыл бұрын
Ive since bought a brevill barista express, tossed my cheap machine that broke in 4 days. Still get better shots with the 1:3 or 1:4 ratios. Maybe its the lowest temp setting im using maybe its some other variable. Im using non pressurized baskets now. I use about 16 grams which is easy to not spill. Its pretty good shots im getting. I realized the longer pre infusion tastes better than a short one. The short ones were making my shots really really strong.
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Hi Pb, Thanks for sharing your experience! Marc
@MarcesAurelius 4 жыл бұрын
perhaps espresso made with a pressurized-basket it should be called “an espresso like drink”? 🧐🤗
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, Perhaps! Marc
@MarcesAurelius 4 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love Marc, sorry I misspelled your name, twice!
@toniculjak 4 жыл бұрын
Archilles Gaggia?
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Winner!
@toniculjak 4 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love jeeee, wow, great...you can send me my new gaggia classic and eureka grinder to my address 😘😜
@AdastraRecordings 3 жыл бұрын
A $20,000 machine and they're using pods? Suddenly I don't feel bad about using pre ground Lavazza in my Gaggia Classic Pro.
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@MongooseReflexes 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the man who forced hot water through coffee in 1938 was Alfredo Cremonesi. -Jeremy
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi M, Antonio Cremonese did work with Achille Gaggia around 1936 prior to the Lampo patent in 1938: www.gaggia.com/legacy/ Marc
@mamonasobzen8309 3 жыл бұрын
i thought the carezza had a 53mm pf... can someone confirm? cause i want to get a tamper :P
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi MO, The Carezza does have a 53mm filter basket so 53mm tamper is what you want. Here's a selection of 53mm tampers: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/tampers?_=pf&pf_t_tamper_diameter=tamp_diameter%3A53mm Marc
@mamonasobzen8309 3 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love thank you so much 🙏
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