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@janneranta7373
@janneranta7373 2 жыл бұрын
Bodom mentioned and discussed, but nothing on Amorphis. Tales from the Thousand Lakes is melodic and is death metal. The guitar melodies are simply stellar. I mean, if you have Amon Amarth, you need to have the band that did that sound first. Proto album? Or even legend.
@MaaZeus
@MaaZeus 2 жыл бұрын
Early Amorphis is very melodic but overall I think they are firmly planted in the Death Doom category, not too different from Hooded Menace and such. 🤔
@alanl6729
@alanl6729 2 жыл бұрын
Simply put, Kalmah deserves to be mentioned here. Swamplord and Swampsong are classics that can't be understated. Bands still going strong after 30 years of graft as well. I feel they're often overlooked.
@bluewinter6660
@bluewinter6660 2 жыл бұрын
True
@jeffnduran
@jeffnduran 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely underrated band bro.
@5meohd
@5meohd 2 жыл бұрын
Wait.. just started the video. They aren't mentioned!! Dang!
@bootstrut
@bootstrut 2 жыл бұрын
I 1000% agree, with one correction: Swamplord, Swampsong, AND They Will Return are melodeath classics. Those were some of my gateway albums into melodeath and heavier metal in general
@aghilton8531
@aghilton8531 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Kalmah always seems to get snubbed in these talks. For my money, they have some of the best melodic riffs and they really cultivate a unique atmosphere whether it be on their early albums or the meatier post-Black Waltz stuff. Love them
@EricAxel36
@EricAxel36 2 жыл бұрын
The Jester Race is my favourite album of all time, In Flames peaked early. Dark Tranquillity took a while to peak, but Damage Done is legendary, and that run of 3 albums (Damage Done followed by Character and Fiction) was amazing. Kalmah needs more attention, Hades is one of the greatest Melodeath songs of all time.
@tonywu7298
@tonywu7298 2 жыл бұрын
Swamplord from Kalmah is such a legendary album.
@luzzbuzz
@luzzbuzz 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with basically everything you said although I personally rank Character over DD even though they are pretty similar albums. I also still love The Gallery even though it’s not a perfect record.
@EricAxel36
@EricAxel36 2 жыл бұрын
@@luzzbuzz Lost to Apathy is my favourite song, but I feel like top to bottom, DD is a bit stronger as an album! Cheers \m/
@claytonshirey
@claytonshirey Жыл бұрын
Why no mention of the gallery ? Easily their best album and one of the best albums ever created. By far the best melodic death metal album ever made and one of the best albums period.
@dimitriid
@dimitriid 2 жыл бұрын
Still watching the re-run but I'm surprised to see Dark Tranquility kinda went past you (At least initially) in the early-essentials discussion: Skydancer came out in 1993 *BEFORE* Carcass' Heartwork and sure it was mostly unknown *then* except maybe on the local Gothenburg scene but unlike the initial At The Gates release it was unambiguously melodic death metal with all but direct quotes to that Maiden and Priest guitar harmonies sound. So it's at least as influential as Heartwork but I would argue even more so since Dark Tranquility and almost at the same time In Flames when on to really develop the sound through the 90s while Carcass largely abandoned it in Swansong.
@alexaltamirano5257
@alexaltamirano5257 2 жыл бұрын
Melodeath was one of my favorites metal genres in the late 90s early 00s, and is one of the reasons I never got into nu-metal. I appreciate BangerTV doing the episode, but why do it with people with such lack of knowledge? You had guests in the past with knowledge in the topic at hand. Dark Tranquillity and Arch Enemy deserved to have their albums discussed in details just like In Flames. And there was no mentioned of Eucharist or Ceremonial Oath? But you add Dethlok and Darkest Hour? C'mon! The lock horns talk should have been about bands like Amorphis, Amon Amarth, Hypocrisy, Omnium Gatherum, etc deserve to be included in the melodeath genre.
@loonyman83
@loonyman83 2 жыл бұрын
In Flames, Dark Tranquility, and Arch Enemy are the bands that got me into harder metal. Loved melodeath from the 00's and early 10's. Glad the genre got some love.
@deadliestassassin3092
@deadliestassassin3092 2 жыл бұрын
Amon Amarth - Once Sent from the Golden Hall Gates of Ishtar - The Dawn of Flames Sacrilege - Lost in the Beauty you Slay Moonstruck - First Light Satariel - Hydra Eluveitie - Slania Sentenced - North from Here At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul Dark Tranquility - The Gallery In Flames - The Jester Race Exhumation - Seas of Eternal Silence A Canorous Quintet - Silence of a World Beyond Kalmah - Swamplord The Black Dahlia Murder - Unhallowed The Absence - From your Grave Night in Gales - Toward the Twilight Ablaze My Sorrow - If Emotions Still Burn Arch Enemy - Burning Bridges Apophis - Heliopolis Armageddon - Crossing the Rubicon Azure - King of Stars Bearer of Dark Callenish Circle - My Passion Your Pain Carnal Forge - Please...Die! Ceremonial Oath - Carpet The Crown (Crown of Thorns) - The Burning Impious - Holy Murder Masquerade Diabolical - Synergy The Elysian Fields - Adelain Embracing - I Bear the Burden of Time The Everdawn - Poems Burn the Past Gardenian - Soulburner God Dethroned - The Grand Grimoire The Haunted - Made Me Do It Hypocrisy - The Fourth Dimension Hypocrite - Edge of Existence Prophanity - Stronger than Steel This Ending - Inside the Machine Necromicon - Peccata Mvndi The Duskfall - Frailty Eucharist - Mirrorworlds I could mention alot more but some cross between melodic black/death which i did mention a few here. Necrophobic, Dawn, In Aeternum, Sacramentum, Dissection for example. Both genres together as melodic black/death is my favorite.
@EricAxel36
@EricAxel36 2 жыл бұрын
Once Sent YES! Once Sent and With Oden blow Twilight out of the water. Hate that such a mediocre album is their biggest
@julienmerienne
@julienmerienne 2 жыл бұрын
Loved Satariel and wish they never had stopped…
@salgadev
@salgadev 2 жыл бұрын
This is actual mdm... Think these guys were just freestyling because they seem to know nothing
@Fossilized-cryptid
@Fossilized-cryptid 2 жыл бұрын
nekrogoblikon
@summonliiva5673
@summonliiva5673 2 жыл бұрын
The Fifth Season is better
@erikberg5363
@erikberg5363 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, cool to see Lock Horns back! You guys really helped me find a lot of cool stuff when I was becoming a full-blown metalhead back in 2015/16. And even in saying that, I actually still haven’t taken a real deep dive into MeloDeath (my gateway was more through Prog like Opeth and Ihsahn) so this will be great to watch! Thanks! 🤘🤘
@Grimeyhoob
@Grimeyhoob 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s cool that your entry point is prog metal. That’s not the most accessible type of metal to be a gateway. It’s complex and unconventional.
@erikberg5363
@erikberg5363 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grimeyhoob Yeah, my parents are classical musicians so that’s mostly what they played when I was growing up. I think it helped me get into Prog Rock & Metal. Now I love a lot of more “simple” music as well.
@TheHorrorGuru
@TheHorrorGuru 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of love for Soilwork or Arch Enemy baffles me here. Both are essential melodeath bands by any metric.
@themetalpig7613
@themetalpig7613 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone in doubt, check out Soilwork - A Whisp of the Atlantic. They are super consistent to this day. Arch Enemy for me fell off a cliff once Angela and Christopher Amott left...even before they left they were becoming a bit repetitive.
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
@_Ezzgar_ Pre Carnage not Dismember btw. Cheers
@melltaur
@melltaur 2 жыл бұрын
Best metal show is back yaaaaay!
@doomusrlc
@doomusrlc 2 жыл бұрын
52:15 fully agree about COB. Never really counted them in death metal. More power/speed with an extreme side
@MaaZeus
@MaaZeus 2 жыл бұрын
It has been debated what genre CoB belongs to has existed since day one. Usually the consensus is they are just a power meral band with death metal vocals, not straight up Melodeath. But then again that is not a defined genre where Melodeath is so it is hard to put them anywhere else.
@cope847
@cope847 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaaZeus melodeath has a range of different sounds. There's the more melodic early In Flames and Dark Tranquillity. The heavier stuff with At the Gates. Then there's the more heavy leass melodic Carcass and Arch Enemy style. I think COB definitely fits in there somewhere.
@andrewzinhoquickshot9901
@andrewzinhoquickshot9901 2 жыл бұрын
Something Wild - Melodic/Symphonic Black Metal Hatebreeder/Follow the Reaper - Extreme Power Metal HCD - Extreme Power Metal/Thrash COB definitely ARE NOT a death metal band
@DavidDArcy1975
@DavidDArcy1975 2 жыл бұрын
Necroticism is still Carcass' best and definitely still holds up today - better than a lot of muck in modern music Respect & Peace
@dmphax
@dmphax 2 жыл бұрын
Top 3 album for me personally!
@PesterFester1966
@PesterFester1966 2 жыл бұрын
That was there creative peak and they we're firing in all cylinders on that album.
@nikolaosdimitriadis15
@nikolaosdimitriadis15 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Banger show: Lock Horns!! Amazing stuff guys. Thank you 🤘😊
@DavidDArcy1975
@DavidDArcy1975 2 жыл бұрын
Carcass are the GOAT Respect & Peace
@meshuggener667
@meshuggener667 2 жыл бұрын
Soilwork 'A Predator's Portrait' Omnium Gatherum - New World Shadows Arch Enemy 'Burning Bridges' Amon Amarth - Versus The World Darkane 'Rusted Angel' Insomnium 'Above the Weeping World' and finally for In Flames ANY ONE from 'The Jester Race' / 'Whoracle' / 'Colony' / 'Clayman' - you can make many points for which is the best, but they are all soo great and equally important.
@DavidQuessy
@DavidQuessy 2 жыл бұрын
In flames has got to be the greatest example of how legendary a band was before they decided to be the exact opposite of that. Also always thought it was crazy that dark tranquillity and in flames pretty much traded singers after their first albums or eps
@TheGmorq
@TheGmorq 2 жыл бұрын
Great to have Lock Horns back! I'm a bit bummed that Amorphis wasn't at least in the proto part. But maybe it's just my Finnish point of view. Amorphis is super important for Finnish scene. They were trying to use progressive elements on tha Tales -album but it was still death metal. For sure most of Finnish melodic bands got influenced from that album (Insomnium, Norther, Ensiferum...). So it's a hard album to define. Based on death but melodic stuff sounds like folk music and lyrics being from Kalevala (Finnish epic).
@AdmiralSnakbar77
@AdmiralSnakbar77 2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. I'm American and Amorphis's Karelian Isthmus was my introduction to melodic death metal, and every melo-death album I hear I compare to that one. The more I look into them, definitely a very influential band to the Finnish scene at the very least.
@janneranta7373
@janneranta7373 2 жыл бұрын
Tales and Karelian Isthmus are classics. The guitar melodies on Tales are so good. Among the best in the genre.
@russell2890
@russell2890 2 жыл бұрын
Been a while since I listened to Tales. Time to check it out again.
@rafaelbracero6184
@rafaelbracero6184 2 жыл бұрын
Karelian is a monster album but Tales is total perfection for me and definitely is an untouchable classic.
@henriquespencer8644
@henriquespencer8644 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Lock Horns!
@billcowan5539
@billcowan5539 2 жыл бұрын
I am super stoked to see Lock Horns back , I was at work earlier when it was on Twitch live but I am really enjoying watching it now🙏 Thank you Banger🤘🤘
@celluloidprojectile
@celluloidprojectile 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, lack of Edge of Sanity cred is kinda shocking. Crimson are pure prog death album, but they have Unorthodox, The Spectral Sorrows and Purgatory Afterglow to choose from for this discussion + Moontower from Swano cos' of the ahead of its time sound. Also seeing Arch Enemy in this, while bands like Dismember (Like an Everflowing Stream), Scar Symmetry (Holographic Universe) or Omnium Gatherum (New World Shadows) exist is also upsetting. Anyway, thx for the content, guys.
@Curse1217
@Curse1217 2 жыл бұрын
Unorthodox in 1992 from Edge of Sanity started mixing in those “foot off the gas” moments. Should consider them proto melodeath alongside Carcass.
@Eric13345
@Eric13345 2 жыл бұрын
EoS does not get enough love in general, the Crimsons are fucking legendary
@jmalinjapan7786
@jmalinjapan7786 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! It’s back! This is my favourite Banger show👍
@manyamaggot
@manyamaggot 2 жыл бұрын
Hypocrisy has been one of the best melodeath bands for the last 20 years i don't know you smoking
@MaaZeus
@MaaZeus 2 жыл бұрын
One of the few Melodeath bands I listen to anymore too. I was huge on old In Flames and such as a teenager but not so much today. Hypocrisy kicks ass still though.
@Faustustopheles
@Faustustopheles 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up my first Opeth album this past Saturday for Record Store Day here in BG OH. My Arms, Your Hearse.
@luzzbuzz
@luzzbuzz 2 жыл бұрын
Random comment but that is my favorite Opeth album so I hope you enjoy, cheers!
@Faustustopheles
@Faustustopheles 2 жыл бұрын
@@luzzbuzz thanks. I commented during the beginning of the stream when they mentioned something about Opeth. I can't remember what it was but I was pretty excited about my find and I confess I was not very familiar with Opeth music before this. I've definitely been missing out.
@luzzbuzz
@luzzbuzz 2 жыл бұрын
Nice that’s awesome! Great band most of their albums are great from Orchid and Morningrise to Ghost Reveries and Watershed. Blackwater Park, Deliverance/Damnation, and Still Life in between are essential as well!
@DavidQuessy
@DavidQuessy 2 жыл бұрын
Dark tranquillity to me are the most consistent and best overall out of all the Gothenburg bands from the 90s that are still going
@dmphax
@dmphax 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@caseycornett5182
@caseycornett5182 2 жыл бұрын
Really missed the mark on this one IMO. Dark Tranquility, In flames, and At the gates should have been under legends because they are considered the big 3 of gothenburg style melodeath. Wages of sin, and the chain heart machine should be considered essential. We are also missing some of the second wave bands here with Insomnium, Be'lakor, Kalmah, Mors Principium Est, Before the dawn, Omnium Gatherum, Scar Symmetry... Maybe a second stream for the second gen melodeath bands.
@Metal_Guy_777
@Metal_Guy_777 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@salgadev
@salgadev 2 жыл бұрын
Xactly
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
Second wave bands? Try like fifth or sixth wave.
@bobilly
@bobilly 2 жыл бұрын
100% with Blayne on Dekthlok's first record being extremely important in the conversation. That's a huge gateway record I think
@TheKulneff
@TheKulneff 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you guys will do another Essential Progressive Metal episode of Lock Horns! Love seeing the show back. Keep up the great work, guys!
@bluewinter6660
@bluewinter6660 2 жыл бұрын
Amorphis and Sentenced are the masters
@kimonkarapetsis8195
@kimonkarapetsis8195 2 жыл бұрын
No way!! Locked horns introduced me to the whole banger channel I'm super stoked🤟🤟
@MikeFerguson1
@MikeFerguson1 2 жыл бұрын
Arch Enemy, some early Amorphis, later At the Gates, early Black Dahlia, Bodom, Dark Tranquility, Later God Dethroned, some in flames, Gates of Ishtar, Insomnium, Kalmah, early nightrage, norther, soilwork, amon amarth, omnium gatherum, later carcass, scar symmetry, some hypocrisy and some Swano and some The Haunted stuff might hit too many other genres, but definitely all these deserves a place there.
@lucasstruna3962
@lucasstruna3962 2 жыл бұрын
nocturnal was definently the album that got me into death metal in general i think
@Nacnud92
@Nacnud92 2 жыл бұрын
Writing this while wearing my Left Hand Path shirt… this may be out of left field but I’d like to say that “Iowa” is the gateway record for me to get into death metal/melodic death metal, along with At The Gates and Bodom.
@dennisvanopstal7360
@dennisvanopstal7360 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Clayman should be legend. The other albums including Reroute To Remain are all essential to me. Amorphis - Tales From The Thousand Lakes should be essential at least. Dethlok isnt Melodic Death Metal to me. Arch Enemy definitely is Melodic Death Metal.
@dmphax
@dmphax 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with all of this. Even Dethklok being questionably MDM. I have trouble wrapping my head around that idea too.
@JBL1222
@JBL1222 2 жыл бұрын
Opeth, Mastodon, and Khemmis sounds like the greatest concert ever!
@dsdcool
@dsdcool Жыл бұрын
Someone make it happen.
@Serphwratt
@Serphwratt 2 жыл бұрын
yeeeees! Thank you for bringing this show back!
@taylorshred
@taylorshred 2 жыл бұрын
Arsis - We are the Nightmare Inferi - The Path of Apotheosis
@jeffbudd7678
@jeffbudd7678 2 жыл бұрын
Im 39. Been a long time fan of melo death and after a time away from the genre I've really gotten back into it after leaving the genre for more progressive, power and heavy metal. I took an odd path in metal. I started with White Zombie, Marilyn Manson, Iron Maiden and Iced Earth back in the early 90s. From there it went to thrash and symphonic black metal. Enthroned Darkness Triumphant kinda paved my way into melodic death (along with the Knuckle Tracks sampler that came with Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles). My staple melodeath albums include: Soilwork - Steelbath Suicide Soilwork - The Chainheart Machine (my gateway album) At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul Amon Amarth - Once Sent From the Golden Halls Opeth - Blackwater Park Mercenary - Everblack Exhumation - Dance Across the Past Nightrage - Sweet Vengeance Out of my more recent finds I'd recommend: Fires in the Distance - Echoes From Deep November Crepuscle - Heavenly Skies Eternal Storm - Come the Tide Anything from Insomnium The Absence - A Gift for the Obsessed Hecate Enthroned - Virulent Rapture Windfaerer - Breaths of Elder Dawns Wolfheart - Winterborn Aeolian - The Negationist Countless Skies - Glow
@luzzbuzz
@luzzbuzz 2 жыл бұрын
That Amon Amarth record has so many catchy riffs but for me it’s Versus the World although I love how raw Once Sent is. Love Blackwater Park but not melodic death for me. Sweet Vengeance is super underrated!
@2000Doriyas
@2000Doriyas 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so nice to have this lengthy content to dig into topics on, I always felt most episodes of lock horns were too short, still loved it but everything felt frantically rushed and any detailed subject would have to be ignored, this is great.
@julienmerienne
@julienmerienne 2 жыл бұрын
Dark tranquility is one of my favorite band ever, and impressive longitivity with consistent albums; I’d like to mention Edge of Sanity who could have created all, eternal tears of sorrow or Omnium Gatherum
@bootstrut
@bootstrut 2 жыл бұрын
In the last few years, death metal saw a revival. I hope we see a melodeath revival this decade. If it's going to happen, I think The Halo Effect has a shot at catalyzing the movement
@salgadev
@salgadev 2 жыл бұрын
There's never been any shortage of good melodeath
@arthurporter131
@arthurporter131 Жыл бұрын
Look out for the band Majesties that 20 buck spin just signed. They have 3 singles out from their new album and it sounds like a modern Jester’s Race amped up to 10 with a touch of Slaughter of the Soul. Very exciting material
@johnsandberg1945
@johnsandberg1945 2 жыл бұрын
Going to see Opeth, Mastodon and Khemmis as well this Saturday. My first concert since pandemic.
@TheReincarnatedDeath
@TheReincarnatedDeath 2 жыл бұрын
DEATH -SPIRITUAL HEALING from 1990!!!
@dogfrog9543
@dogfrog9543 2 жыл бұрын
Im way late to the Melo Death party, didnt even find this stuff til the pandemic hit and I went on a great discovery period. Dark Tranquility and Mors Principium Est get my vote. And one I found on bandcamp that doesnt belong on this list Nanga Parbat - Downfall and Torment
@dmphax
@dmphax 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Tranquillity is my favourite band, period. :)
@luzzbuzz
@luzzbuzz 2 жыл бұрын
MPE’s the Unborn is a crazy underrated album!
@drxsmetalhippie
@drxsmetalhippie 2 жыл бұрын
Insomnium should've gotten a mention.
@russell2890
@russell2890 2 жыл бұрын
They're too new.
@drxsmetalhippie
@drxsmetalhippie 2 жыл бұрын
@@russell2890 Really? In the Halls of Awaiting came out in 2002.
@russell2890
@russell2890 2 жыл бұрын
@@drxsmetalhippie Hey didn't expect to hear from you this quickly lol. 2002 is already late to be considered essential for the genre in my opinion as by that time, the genre has already been established as the pioneers of the genre released their albums in the early to mid 90s. Heartwork was released in 93, Slaughter was in 95 and Jester race in 96. That's just my opinion lol.
@Troy.Ritter
@Troy.Ritter 2 жыл бұрын
Soilwork’s “The Ride Majestic” from 2015 is one of my favorite Melodeath albums ever made. I know it’s a newer record, but it would be on my list.
@TheHorrorGuru
@TheHorrorGuru 2 жыл бұрын
Great album!
@LorriSanga
@LorriSanga 2 жыл бұрын
It's easily my favourite Soilwork album.
@jdg1120
@jdg1120 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Sam on CoB - I have never thought they sounded like death metal at all. Like a black/thrash/power metal blend to me, especially on the early stuff. Speaking of which Hatebreeder gets my vote from them; surprised the first 2 albums weren't brought up (at least to where I am in the video). Also Colony is my favorite In Flames album by far.
@soren4915
@soren4915 2 жыл бұрын
Love that Locked Horns is back! Melodic death metal was 100% the bridge for my love of extreme metal
@hornmoviereviews8739
@hornmoviereviews8739 2 жыл бұрын
At the gates slaughter of the soul was my first melodeath album. Loved the style ever since.
@bobilly
@bobilly 2 жыл бұрын
I think Surgical Steel is better than Heartwork, but I'm surprised to hear anybody speaking less than favorable on Heartwork's production value. I think it's one of the best produced extreme metal albums ever.
@dmphax
@dmphax 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
Try to keep in mind "Hesrtwork" was 1993 and remember to focus on what the overall metal and music landscape was at that time. It was revolutionary. There would be no Surgical Steel if no Heartwork. It's essentially theor attempt at a sequel. While real.good just not as sharp and important as the first
@dmphax
@dmphax 2 жыл бұрын
@@EddieTHead2266 agree, but SS was one of the absolute best come back albums of any band ever as well.
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no argument from me either.
@clandestinekits
@clandestinekits 2 жыл бұрын
Clayman should have made legend status IMO. Also everyone slept on Colony. Love that record Also a big fan of Darkest Hour
@craigroaring
@craigroaring 2 жыл бұрын
I would say that most melo-death is pushing it in regards to being considered a form of death metal. Much closer to thrash, NWOBHM and power metal, with the vocals being the only thing remotely death. Personally i much prefer the "proto" melo-death. Being the innovators and not exactly knowing what or where they were going gave these works character, something out of the ordinary, and it avoids the generic quality that haunts modern melo-death, of which is now a formula to follow.
@personavisceration371
@personavisceration371 2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely, most melodeath is closer to thrash than DM for sure.
@dimitriid
@dimitriid 2 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree, I just think that the label started on *very different albums* than the ones that actually got popular: DT's Skydancer, Inflames' Lunar Strain and At The Gates Red Sky is Ours definitively have that Swedish Death Metal lineage very clear. Also another thing to remember is the context of when this first melodic death albums were being released: 1993 or so was coming out of *very* early death metal so what you think today as Death Metal was mostly Cannibal Corpse and maybe some Morbid Angel songs and such. But back in those early days, we have bands with very different sound from that like Death, Obituary and such considered to also be "Death Metal" and even some of what we know call Death Doom like Early Anathema, Early Paradise Lost and Asphyx was actually just called "Death Metal" during those days and you wouldn't find too much pushback by calling such acts just plain Death Metal. So today in hindsight, I think that what you say here is definitively a more accurate description: Trashy NWOBHM perfectly describes the more popular end of the 90s and early 2000s sound of Soilwork, In Flames, DT, Arch Enemy, etc. For sure but the mid 90s stuff that was very fast tempo, had some blast beats and lots more grit in the production and presentation so definitively a close relative to the earlier Death Metal of the beginning of the 90s if you look beyond just what bands like CC, Suffocation, etc. Were doing.
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
@@personavisceration371 Thrash? Really? I think they entire genre of players and band members might disagree. Influenced by thrash but more in common with Morbid Angel Altars of Madness and Entombed left hand path then Slayer or Testament.
@personavisceration371
@personavisceration371 2 жыл бұрын
@@EddieTHead2266 In what way are the bands you're thinking of closer to traditional DM bands? I'm curious what's on your mind. The only melodic bands to me that tip the scales more towards death are the faster bands such as Crystal Age, The Crown, and Fragments of Unbecoming and even then there's quite a bit of thrash. But when I think of the Wrong Again Records roster in the 90's, I hear Iron Maiden and Infernal Majesty riffs that are slightly sped up with nontraditional song structures and with a harsher vocal that is equally indebted to both BM and DM. The riffs do tend to be more complex and thus more DM-like, but that's the only connection to me.
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
It's your opinion.
@arturassuncaopinheiro7869
@arturassuncaopinheiro7869 2 жыл бұрын
Kalmah and Be'lakor should be there for sure
@marcoaurelioa.4394
@marcoaurelioa.4394 2 жыл бұрын
Arch Enemy Burning Bridges.
@JonathanWinegar
@JonathanWinegar 2 жыл бұрын
When Dethalbum 2 released I was playing World Of Warcraft with a friend and put my speakers on playing the album and kept my mic on Ventrilo chat. Me and a friend listened to it atleast twice through. Basically an online listening party :)
@personavisceration371
@personavisceration371 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you posted this here, I have no interest in joining Twitch. I think for melodeath, you could perhaps have crowned Sweden as it's official country. I hope there are some interesting topics coming up like you did with artwork previously. I think "Best theme/gimmick/visual presentation band" could make for a fun episode. Imagine Gwar, Portal, Midnight, and Amon Amarth in the same episode!
@megathrasherdeth
@megathrasherdeth 2 жыл бұрын
im a hige arch enemy fan but i can definitely say they've made a shift. Even Michael Amott said theyre not death metal anymore, but 90's AE set the staple for Melodeath!
@AquilaMetal
@AquilaMetal 2 жыл бұрын
Arch Enemy's Burning Bridge is their best album and an essential melodeath album.
@doomusrlc
@doomusrlc 2 жыл бұрын
In Flames 'Whoracle' and Children of Bodom 'Follow the Reaper' were my intro for melo death metal. However, and I know this will get some detractors, but Fear Factory 'Demanufacture' and 'Obsolete' were my intro to anything death metal related.
@dmphax
@dmphax 2 жыл бұрын
I love Fear Factory. Demanufacture is absolutely perfect. Was listening to them from Soul of a New Machine on, long before I discovered MDM. My intro to extreme music was Carcass, Necroticism: Descanting The Insalubrious, and still a massive Carcass fan today. :)
@thepredator666qc4
@thepredator666qc4 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you sam, jeez we don't see you enough anymore 😔
@doomusrlc
@doomusrlc 2 жыл бұрын
One I know won't get mentioned much but for me is a favorite of melo death is Godgory 'Resurrection'. Has such a soaring sound IMO,
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
YOU are correct. That album does Soar. Some sick melodic solos. Very doom melodic death for sure. NOT many people know nor appreciate them. Good Call
@doomusrlc
@doomusrlc 2 жыл бұрын
@@EddieTHead2266 I'm happy to see someone else actually agrees 😄
@billcowan5539
@billcowan5539 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Sam, Melo Death is my favorite and has been for a long time, it’s definitely is the perfect marriage between Traditional Heavy Metal and Death Metal which also brought me to old school Death Metal , Black Metal and Brutal Death and Grind core, Melo Death is still my favorite 🔥🤘🤘
@jakobthonen9411
@jakobthonen9411 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned Chuck and Death because yes Human and Individual Thought Patterns aren't just melo-death but they definitely had more melody than their first three records obviously and all the other artists you mentioned like Cannibal Corpse and Deicide and stuff. The Philosopher and Hammer Smashed Face are death metal yes, but a million miles apart in terms of writing styles. You can see interviews for Human where Chuck literally says he doesn't like music being brutal just for the sake of being brutal and having nothing else to really offer the listener.
@pauljohnson1382
@pauljohnson1382 7 ай бұрын
Gorguts - Considered Dead is the most melodic, musical bad ass death metal album i ever heard. Luke Lemay and his classical twist on writing is mind blowing. The album art is dope too.
@bobilly
@bobilly 2 жыл бұрын
Love this format, followed you just now on Twitch, hopefully I can join in on future festivities \m/
@RuthlessMetalYT
@RuthlessMetalYT 2 жыл бұрын
As a thrash metal fan I have to object to calling Children of Bodom a thrash band or having their base in it. For me it's more melodic death metal or symphonic metal mixed into one band.
@doctajuice
@doctajuice 2 жыл бұрын
I've always said that if you draw a triangle between melodic death, thrash, and power metal, children of bodom pins dead center. They're pretty hard to classify because they blend so many styles so seamlessly but the thing that can never be argued is that alexi could fkin shred! Lost a true guitar hero will always miss him
@RuthlessMetalYT
@RuthlessMetalYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctajuice Sure, but I don't think that there is any thrash in their music because I dislike the band and I'm a huge thrash fan. :)
@slamfam7621
@slamfam7621 2 жыл бұрын
@@RuthlessMetalYT How full of yourself do you need to be to say "there is NO thrash in band x because I dislike them." Seriously dude, you could have just NOT said that and allowed a discussion.
@dennisvanopstal7360
@dennisvanopstal7360 2 жыл бұрын
To me its a Melodic Death Metal band with bits of Power Metal in their sound. No Thrash
@slamfam7621
@slamfam7621 2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisvanopstal7360 Later material basically dropped power metal entirely and picked up thrash.
@jonathancapella1853
@jonathancapella1853 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm.... Insomnium? Really, not included? Arguably the best and most influential melodeath band ever. Also, Be'Lakor is not death-doom. They are really in a genre of their own but melodeath is definitely more appropriate a classification for them than death-doom. They are head and shoulders above most bands you listed in this Lock Horns episode and should have been discussed. Stone's Reach is essential.
@eddymetal
@eddymetal 2 жыл бұрын
Insomnium's absence was shocking to me.
@luzzbuzz
@luzzbuzz 2 жыл бұрын
The first three Insomnium records are great and Above the Weeping World is one of my all time favorites. Be’lakor has some great albums as well.
@ZordimuZ
@ZordimuZ 2 жыл бұрын
Vehemence "God Was Created"
@eddymetal
@eddymetal 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@gaborroa3831
@gaborroa3831 2 жыл бұрын
So awesome to see Lock Horns back into action. Best show ever.
@TheHorrorGuru
@TheHorrorGuru 2 жыл бұрын
They are totally right about Dethklok, that show and the albums were seminal and were without a doubt melodeath albums.
@salgadev
@salgadev 2 жыл бұрын
Parody album with joke lyrics and generic riffs. I like it nonetheless tho come on lol
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
Seminole is a word. Not applicable unfortunately let's not go nuts here.
@digitlflesh
@digitlflesh Жыл бұрын
The moment you didn’t put Necroticism as legend I was done.
@jbk007311
@jbk007311 Жыл бұрын
That's my favorite Carcass album along with Symphonies of Sickness, but I would classify Necroticism as straight up Death Metal. I suspect that's why they don't fit in a Melodic Death Metal chart.
@oldschooldeathmetal8417
@oldschooldeathmetal8417 3 ай бұрын
But will we ever get an old school Death Metal essential albums debate?
@nipulkradmsinatagras8293
@nipulkradmsinatagras8293 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! *It's back!*
@doomusrlc
@doomusrlc 2 жыл бұрын
Wages of Sin had a weird release from what I understand. Came out in Japan well before it popped into Europe or the US. But I agree rhe current Arch Enemy era is overshadowing the older eras. Burning Bridges if nothing else should be on the list (I like Stigmata more, personally, but Bridges was a bigger album). Agree Wages if Sin could be there too (kind of like Doomsday Machine more though)
@DSoverPSP
@DSoverPSP 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who kind of prefers the original Lock Horns format? Yeah it was a little more cramped and limited but in hindsight I really appreciate the tighter focus, less rambling and of course they always had Lisa with the bell to keep things moving. Not to mention 40ish minutes is a lot easier to sit through than 2.5 hours although I get the appeal of unwinding with a more relaxed paced kind of stream. Idk, just my 2 cents. I'm now even more curious to check out Surgical Steel as I continue exploring Carcass' discography, so I'm glad I at least got that insight. I just listened to Heartwork the other day and even though I mostly liked it, it wasn't anything that crazy compared to where melodeath and extreme metal in general have gone since. Maybe SS will hit a little harder
@SO-ym3zs
@SO-ym3zs Жыл бұрын
Definitely not the only one. This new format is rough going, with all the chatty rambling. The original tighter, moderated format was much more enjoyable and informative.
@gareth6233
@gareth6233 2 жыл бұрын
I’m continually baffled by how many people think Carcass’ last 2 albums are better than Heartwork. I just don’t get it all... Albums worth checking out: Without Grief - Deflower Gardenian - Soulburner Omnium Gatherum - Spirits and August Light
@Son_of_Aragorn
@Son_of_Aragorn 10 ай бұрын
My list of the greatest - - Insomnium, Omnium Gatherum, Dark Tranquillity, and Amorphis.
@neutney
@neutney 2 жыл бұрын
I love how blain rips up arch enemy and Sam tries so hard to be fair and stay positive. It’s a great duo.
@Brunetto46
@Brunetto46 2 жыл бұрын
The only one capable here is Dunn how do you want to to do this with a deathcore boy and a doomdeath guy come on...
@Rextum
@Rextum 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a huge melo death connoisseur. All I have is Dark Tranquillity’s Gallery, Bodom’s Hatebreeder, Carcass’ Surgical Steel and the first The Haunted album. I have no idea how melo-deathy these albums are, I just enjoy listening to them. But this is no dig on melodic death metal, it just shows what an idiot I am. Now, prog death is a different thing. Atheist, some Pestilence, 90s Death, Gorod, Obscura, the Faceless etc. I love to death. But with a band like Misanthrope and their albums Visionnaire and Immortal… I have no idea if it’s prog or melo death. Or both. Or neither.
@EddieTHead2266
@EddieTHead2266 2 жыл бұрын
DUDE I thought I was the only one who listened to Misanthrope at least in my city. I picked up those albums on an EU trip in 2000. Love them!!!! Oh and not melodeath but there are elements. I'd put them in the progressive death with Cynic, Atheist and Pestilence worlds.
@MMasterDE
@MMasterDE 2 жыл бұрын
The Red in the Sky is Ours
@FeRReTNS
@FeRReTNS 2 жыл бұрын
Bard's enthusiasm is antiseptic.
@jeffhaubrich6121
@jeffhaubrich6121 2 жыл бұрын
That Mastodon/Opeth show was killer in Saskatoon. It's great to see live music again!
@Deadsilentjoe
@Deadsilentjoe 2 жыл бұрын
I would mention edge of sanity has proto melodeath or even legend.
@dylanbarnett6099
@dylanbarnett6099 2 жыл бұрын
Undoing ruin, Heartwork, Fiction, Slaughter of the soul 🤘🤘
@jasonadams2
@jasonadams2 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow missed Insomnium.
@DiegoSanchez-rj7ip
@DiegoSanchez-rj7ip 2 жыл бұрын
The one that deserves to be here is Sentenced - Amok. Made in 95 and is fantastic melodic death metal, very differerent to their Gothenburg counterparts, most atmospheric and rocker. From Arch Enemy, by far de first 3 albums, heavier and melodic; the Ammots in their prime.
@thepredator666qc4
@thepredator666qc4 2 жыл бұрын
Seen the show here in mtl sam!!!! What a show!!!! Daylor was just amazing as aslways!!!!
@erikberg5363
@erikberg5363 2 жыл бұрын
Cool show as always but I do feel like an important band usually gets snubbed in Lock Horns episodes. This time around I really think Hypocrisy should have been in there instead of Darkest Hour. I’m sure if there had been a poll between the 2 Hypocrisy would have won by a landslide, and even Edge of Sanity probably would have beaten them as well. Edge of Sanity could definitely fit on a Progressive Death Metal list (that would be super cool to see some day, wink wink) but unfortunately I doubt Hypocrisy will be featured in any other episode. Maybe a better way to do things would be to take suggestions from the viewers and then make a poll with all the albums to get a better idea of what should be in the top 10? I’m not sure if that’s possible but I think there’s some better way. I watched the old episodes religiously and usually felt the same way at the end. Anyway, sorry to be critical. Still a very cool show, that’s just my 2 cents.
@doomusrlc
@doomusrlc 2 жыл бұрын
I full agree with Hypocrisy, at least for the 'Abducted' album. Was a bridge album, IMO, between their more straight death metal side and the melodicness of Final Chapter, s/t, Into The Abyss and The Arrival (we'll skip Catch 22 for now lol). And "Roswell 47" was key in my introduction to this side of the metal world.
@mohawkinsanity
@mohawkinsanity 2 жыл бұрын
Intestine Baalism are the best melo death band bar none.
@clandestinekits
@clandestinekits 2 жыл бұрын
Super underrated band.
@ESPspiderXIII
@ESPspiderXIII 2 жыл бұрын
Tuomas Saukkonen. That's all I gotta say. He's a hard working man. Funny how these boys mention about others blasting 'mainstream' metal and yet talk about it.
@meshuggener667
@meshuggener667 2 жыл бұрын
Heartwork is NOT perfect?? If anything..it really IS perfect! And guyz please, next time you say 'there are other bands that did it better(!!!) please, name them. I DARE YOU 😑.
@bryanbaker6040
@bryanbaker6040 2 жыл бұрын
Oh thank god they posted it to youtube. I was worried I might miss this.
@nickygoods131
@nickygoods131 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for putting the work in, and taking the time out to give us Lock Horns back! This program has always meant so much to all of us BANGER fans, and it's because of the care and time put forth that we all have fallen in love with this show! As an aside, all of you that voted against 'Wages of Sin' and Arch Enemy's inclusion as a whole, shame on you!!!!
@sadekx5251
@sadekx5251 2 жыл бұрын
Amon Amarch? As (accidentally) Sam mentioned, Bathory had done it decades ago and lets not forget Unleashed were the first DM band to do the viking shit.
@nostrace
@nostrace 2 жыл бұрын
Arch Enemy is such a grey area band. Even though we cannot deny the great guitar work of the Amott brothers, it feels like as a band, they had a good amount of success without having any significant impact in the genre. Being one of the first extreme bands with a frontwomen might be what made them stood out. But musically, it doesn't feel like a band we can pinpoint a magnum opus. Only decent releases with a good degree of commercial success.
@doomusrlc
@doomusrlc 2 жыл бұрын
35:35 yep! Saw them in Buffalo NY on that tour. My girlfriend (now wife) also went. Such a fun show.
@VTM_isawesome
@VTM_isawesome 2 жыл бұрын
In Flames' Colony
@jacobcolley9805
@jacobcolley9805 2 жыл бұрын
Colony by In Flames was my first Melodic Death Metal album that I ever heard and bought back in 2011 when I was 16 years old.
@MetalPromotion666
@MetalPromotion666 2 жыл бұрын
Essential Melodic Death Metal Albums: Heartwork, Slaughter of the Soul, The Jester Race, The Gallery, Burning Bridges (Arch Enemy), The Chainheart Machine, and that's it.
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