Pi Sugar 2 Pro Review - Battery Power For Your Pi4!

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In this video, we take a look at the new Pi Sugar 2 Pro for the Raspberry Pi.
This works with the Raspberry Pi 2, 3, 3b+, and even the Raspberry Pi 4 and allows you to add a 5000Mah battery to your Pi!
Built-in USB Type C and Micro USB ports you can charge the Pi Sugar up while the pi is still running plus it has a programmable button built-in and it can be mapped for safe shutdown or you can add a custom shell/Script!
If you have been looking to make your Raspberry Pi portable with battery power you have to check this out!
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@greekmanx 3 жыл бұрын

I think the bottom mount makes more sense because I would consider it more flexible in that you can choose your own cooling for the pi like a ice tower cooler or something and it wouldn't prevent that

@W1ldTangent 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing until I realized there are zero cases on the market for these, and I neither possess a 3D printer nor the skills to design a case to print on one if I did.

@ninline2000 3 жыл бұрын

@@W1ldTangent Yes. If you can't make your own case it's a problem for sure. However, for people that can, this is awesome.

@alerey4363 3 жыл бұрын

Great functionality with custom programming, decent standalone time, and nice low profile and magnetic pin integration wihtout soldering; will definitely buy 2 of these!

@SSANCHEZ1985 3 жыл бұрын

This gives me the idea to hook up a Pi + LCD screen to my door with a camera attached to the peep-hole looking out, to make a bigger wider view of whats outside my door

@AndroAnalisis 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video as always!

@mikejf4377 3 жыл бұрын

The power brick that you referenced, check Anker, I’ve got a 22,000Mah one. There are birds that allow you to add 18650, 4 at a time. Use a old laptop battery to get your 18650’s. Looks very nice video. Keep up the good work. There software is very nicely done. I think they will come out for a case soon for this like many others do.

@im_Polyhedrons 3 жыл бұрын

1:53 "made by human on earth", well that's a relief....

@pooounderscoreman 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's from the Tesla Roadster that was launched into a Mars orbit by SpaceX.

@AkiraChnl 3 жыл бұрын

Ive always wanted to bring my Pi outside sad that we cant at the moment but, at least i have a new solution! Good to see you cover this!

@techman5852 3 жыл бұрын

What do you use as a displayed outdoors?

@AkiraChnl 3 жыл бұрын

Techman I ordered a nexdock but haven’t arrived yet so I’m just waiting

@techman5852 3 жыл бұрын

Zino Wheeze ahh nice. I’ve considered a nexdock before, but I don’t think it’d worth it for me personally. Maybe if I had a compatible smartphone 🤔.

@kawanjalanvirtual 3 жыл бұрын

@@techman5852 portableMonitor

@josealdemar7555 3 жыл бұрын

this will be a nice upgrade to my pi3 Frankenstein "handheld" clipped to the 8bitdo I saw you make a while back.

@IRWPD 3 жыл бұрын

Cool, this a great looking battery. Can see it being used with lots of projects.

@plebetopro5786 3 жыл бұрын

The PiSugar is interesting to me not for the big battery, as, like you said, they are replaceable, but because it goes on the bottom instead of the top, leaving the pi open, but also not blocking the ports.

@juanrodriguez825 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's perfect I have to get one. Thanks for sharing.

@PhG1961 3 жыл бұрын

A really cool product and an awesome video ! Well explained and entertainted.

@sanody555 3 жыл бұрын

Hi keep it coming friend I love it

@brandonstevens6886 3 жыл бұрын

What would the safety be in something like a handheld equipped with this? This seems like a great product but LIPOs are not the most safe option. Great video btw and congrats on 500k subs!

@sgttoe9763 3 жыл бұрын

Love your videos! I was just looking at the Pi Zero version on Amazon and there are a lot of one star reviews on parts breaking. You still having good experience on the build quality?

@pilabs3206 3 жыл бұрын

It's a very good implementation. The battery on the bottom is bc of heat.. having a battery receiving that amount of heat would be really risky and probably they decide to put it on the bottom bc of that. Great product it seems

@vfletes1 3 жыл бұрын

ETA Big Bunny Prime does it again..awesome.

@toddcoello6461 3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. I might get this and try it with my 7 inch screen

@ThannMan 3 жыл бұрын

Its great that its in the bottom, because you can still put a hat on top! Also, its cool the sugar has a Real-Time-Clock, so it can update the pies clock on boot.

@HerrBlauzahn 3 жыл бұрын

You hit the subscriber milestone of 512k, nice.

@GRAS_gadgetsRepairAISimulators 3 жыл бұрын

I like the intro!!!

@legan1773 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Video. Nice PI Sugar 2 :D

@LPandika 3 жыл бұрын

Pi Sugar + controller (Saitake) + the new 7" lcd you reviewed = awesome portable gaming handheld. Please try to mixed them up.

@larrylarry1368 3 жыл бұрын

I received my Pi4 two days ago and I tested it with my 10000mah power bank. I started running Blender to render a high definition graphic. It lasted about 5 to 6 hours until the power bank indicator displayed low charge.

@AndrewAHayes 3 жыл бұрын

A compatible case would be nice as most people using this will be away from AC power and will need some protection for the Pi

@paulgray1318 3 жыл бұрын

That USB battery bank pack - does it do passthru? As in can charge and power the output at the same time and with that - act as a cheap little UPS buffer for those winter second power drops. [EDIT ADD] I love that this connects below the Pi - keeps top free for heatsinks/cooling fans and more so - other hats unencumbered - that rocks.

Жыл бұрын

Great review. Is it possible to add a solarpanel to this setup? Guess I would need a battery with more juice together with the solarpanel.

@balls2bone 3 жыл бұрын

Apparently the Pi Juice HAT went out of stock and everyone thought it was discontinued, hence the price on existing ones. New stock any time now apparently.

@geektoolkit 3 жыл бұрын

I got one of these for a min arcade cab I'm building...it's kind of frustrating. That button for shutdown means that you have to route it to the case if you put it inside of something. Then once you hit it to turn the pi off, how do you turn the pi back on? Also, turning the pi off doesn't turn the screen I have off, so I have to solve that. This is great for their limited use case, but I'm struggling to use it for things that slightly go outside of what they designed it for. That said, huge thanks for this review, because you have one of the few videos that shows the full UI and how to install it (really all of your videos are top notch, and I appreciate them. My frustration is at the product, not your channel, and I"m saying this to warn others if they are trying to do what I'm doing)

@remediosarnel18 3 жыл бұрын

Great Review! However I'm a bit puzzled. Is it fully uninterruptible? Like, can it be used as a UPS like the pijuice?

@ein57ein 3 жыл бұрын

wow! I REALLY like that. The battery could even be mounted outside the case so you can swap out. Would be interesting if you could use it as a battery back up in case of power loss.

@pooounderscoreman 3 жыл бұрын

It does seems like the Sugar 2 Pro can function as a UPS but cannot be set to turn on once power is restored.

@ein57ein 3 жыл бұрын

@@pooounderscoreman NICE!

@nickhenley8040 3 жыл бұрын

@@pooounderscoreman perhaps this could be added in a revision? That would suit my needs as well.

@icns01 Жыл бұрын

Nice video, much appreciated. 👍 One thing though, I would definitely use an anti- static wristrap connected to a ground when handling delicate electronics like this. Much better and less costly to be safe than sorry.

@icns01 4 ай бұрын

@Danefrak Well by discharging yourself before handling, you are still taking some precautions. The problem is, the video gives the impression that you can just handle this w.o. taking any precautions to prevent or eliminate esd (electro static discharge). You can ruin some electronics easily by doing that.

@TomS_FoX 3 жыл бұрын

Wow that looks great! Should help with making projects mobile.

@dreddguy6454 3 жыл бұрын

I like this. The ras-pi audiophile community will be very keen to know there's now a clean battery powered solution that still allows us to use our audio HAT's.

@martianunlimited 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like it does use up SDA and SCL, i wonder if the inter-board communication is neccessary, or if it is only for hard/soft shutdowns.

@handy-capoutdoors4063 Жыл бұрын

I like this over the pi juice hat. With it under the board it means a hat can be installed at the same time

@Daniel-xc8nf 3 жыл бұрын

Will the Pi Sugar Pro 2 fit in the 7" enclosure? If so I possibly have my own tablet with the pi, thats exciting! Considering the Raspad cost $248 AUD.

@homelesstogreatness6626 3 жыл бұрын

Cool!

@hiimsimon_ 2 жыл бұрын

Hi @ETA PRIME ive a quick question. Firstly i love the video! So i purchased this for my raspberry pi 4B, installed no problem, but i then attached a respeaker 2mic hat, then the respeaker stopped working? Is this because they are sharing some GPIO pins? Any help would be apperciated! :D

@NewAgeDIY 3 жыл бұрын

Why is it that every time I’m working on a Pi project and I need something to complete it, a long comes ETA with just the right item to finish it? Thanks again for making my day!

@beauregardslim1914 3 жыл бұрын

This is a really nice design. Battery units that install on top of the Pi interfere with hats and displays.

@Atalas5 3 жыл бұрын

first thing that actually came to my mind on seeing this: Will this work for that Raspberry Pi 4 portable emulation rig you've been tinkering with tin the past? Looks far more portable and less weighty than the battery back-ups like the one you mentioned in the video.

@mk500 3 жыл бұрын

I really like the bottom mount design. With a little dremmelling, I bet you could make many plastic cases compatible with this (but it would sit external to the case). Also you still have full use of any pi hats you desire. This makes it useful for say a wireless e-ink project where you need it to wake up and update from time to time. And you could buy spare batteries and swap them out in a snap. Will the board charge the battery without being connected to a Pi? (say I want to charge a spare with a second board)

@sugarpi42 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it can charge the battery without being connected to a Pi, and it can change the battery while Pi is working!

@NewAgeDIY 3 жыл бұрын

This battery will work great for a Trail-Cam setup. MotionEye0S works will for this type of project. I printed out a water protected case that will keep everything dry. I normally put my cameras up high so people don’t borrow them.

@paulchisholm66 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any details on your trail camera projects? Could you set one up to recharge from solar panels? Thank you for your time.

@stevelawson8077 3 жыл бұрын

With proper standoffs, would this fit in a 7" display case? How long would the battery life be in that scenario? Looking for a fully portable DIY retro gaming solution.

@juxuanu 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe I use this as a UPS for my media home server

@noahwiedel4077 3 жыл бұрын

If you took the battery off would it fit inside that 7” touchscreen case? It could potentially make an interesting mobile pi4 setup if you relocated the battery

@Champsvisions3d 3 жыл бұрын

Man i should have go this video few week before hehe

@Linser22 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been looking for a good battery solution for my Pimoroni Picade. Does anyone know if this supplies enough power to power the Pi 4, 10”LCD, 256 USB 3 Stick, and the PiCade hat. Also I hope it doesn’t interfere with the GPIO pins the hat is using. Actually the fact that it lays under the Pi makes this very appetizing. Thanks for the video!

@davidlection3024 3 жыл бұрын

Great Review! However, manufacturers that make boards like these, need to offer a quality case to house the Raspberry PI and the add on board. It is not practical or advised IMHO to have a PI that is portable, but no case to protect it from accidental drops, or things dropped into the PI while it is running..

@fr3847 3 жыл бұрын

Make an ABS 3d printed case! Don't rely on others to do what YOU want to do! Then maybe you could sell it to others who have the same need as you!

@Tunacanjones 3 жыл бұрын

@@fr3847 If i had a 3D printer, i would jump on that immediately. However, I would assume that most people just don't own a 3D printer or not have access to one.

@fr3847 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tunacanjones that's understandable! You can however find a new mini one that could print a case for this around 100 and an even better mid tier one for 50$ more. But of course that may be a luxury for alot of people!

@Tunacanjones 3 жыл бұрын

@@fr3847Thank you for the info. I've been considering getting one, but curious on the quality of these more affordable ones. It's good to know that there are cheaper options out there.

@fr3847 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tunacanjones checkout the monoprice mp i3, you can find some for under 100 on Ebay and they're quality at printing although you are restricted to only smaller prints but this case would be perfect try printed !

@SnehangshuBhusanPal 3 жыл бұрын

I am looking to combine R Pi4, 7" touch screen, heat sinks, fan & pijuice or pi sugar and appropriate case. Not finding any.

@Zoyx 3 жыл бұрын

Can this be used as a UPS? In other words, can you keep it charged while in use?

@W1ldTangent 3 жыл бұрын

That's usually where these sort of products fall down for me. Unless it's specifically marketed as a UPS, they usually don't. Not sure about this one, he did say it only charges from it's own ports, but I don't think he addressed whether it can charge and power a Pi at the same time.

@jasonballou88 3 жыл бұрын

it does say ups on amazon

@b00573d 3 жыл бұрын

From the amazon link: UPS - Provide uninterrupted power to the pi. Support charging and discharging at the same time.

@sugarpi42 3 жыл бұрын

It can be used as UPS, it can be charged while working, after the power source down, it still works until the battery power is too low. But it can't automatically power on Raspberry Pi after the power source restore.

@jimlynch9390 3 жыл бұрын

@@sugarpi42 That's what kills it for me. I need something for unattended operation. It needs to come back up after the power returns.

@CrystalizedSun1998x 3 жыл бұрын

NOICE!

@Tom-jd1rm Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to know if the Wesserstein Solar Panel would keep that battery charged up? I use one for my cameras and have NO problems.

@haj4975 3 жыл бұрын

@ETA PRIME do u got the news about the switch emulator for android? It's fantastic! Please make a video on it.

@TheOleHermit 3 жыл бұрын

Well there goes another $50 on my SBC gear. Thanks?🤔 Actually, Pi Sugar 2 Pro looks like a great solution for greater portability. I prefer it being mounted on the bottom, otherwise, it would obstruct the GPIO header as well as the much needed RPi 4 heatsink and/or cooling fan. Shame that they don't offer a bottom half case. But, DIY shouldn't be a big deal. My heatsink/fan already has the top covered.😎

@squalazzo 3 жыл бұрын

how does it perform in case battery goes completely flat? waits for battery to reach a suitable charge, or what? and what about autopower on in case of recharge, so to have an unattended setup in case one is far from the device?

@Crussader87 2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I was looking for, is there a way i can get the percentage of battery left in retropie?

@Niko-te3wp 3 жыл бұрын

Finally i can create my raspberry pi 4 phone

@mbrownz71 Жыл бұрын

Would it be simple to use a remote push momentary switch for start up and shut down? I understand soldering may be required.

@greenprotag 3 жыл бұрын

Now we need a case that can take a small blower style cooling fan/ heatsink and this battery assembly... and maybe a VESA bracket OR maybe a screen?

@DoryanTheCritic 3 жыл бұрын

That would be nice, with the screen option that is. The "pi‑top [4] DIY EDITION" will offer a keyboard and screen accessory, so I can't wait for ETA Prime to make the review of it once it launches in late September.

@DigitalIP 3 жыл бұрын

So does this mean we could use a DIY 18650 power source with that PCB using a 2pin connector? Granted it wouldnt be as pretty, but it would allow for a bigger battery pack

@plexricardo 3 жыл бұрын

muito bom está placa

@iljacoveliers5834 2 жыл бұрын

This battery seems great, but for a handheld project with a 7" screen it's nearly impossible to build it in a case and have access to the on/off switch. Sure you can place the raspberry Pi (Pi 4), at the back of your case, so you have access to the on/off switch, but for audio you need the 3.5mm jack, so you would have a cable sticking out of the case and go back in the case to the speakers. Sure you can get some sort of audio HAT, but then you wouldn't be able to cool the Pi or place heat sinks. PiJuice isn't an option either, same problems. So a battery powered handheld without the technical knowledge is turning out to be very difficult.

@nosuchthing8 3 жыл бұрын

A case, or at least a possible 3d print case for download would be great.

@jcjven19 3 жыл бұрын

They have.just check the github page

@STORMFIRE07 3 жыл бұрын

Can you recommend some cases to be used along with this battery?

@W1ldTangent 3 жыл бұрын

Sadly there are none, just the 3D printed designs they have.

@Tweak42 3 жыл бұрын

If you skip using the base or print your own, the Argon Neo and the upcoming Cooler Master Pi case 40 might work. See ETA's review of both cases. Cooler Master is supposed to release their 3d design files so you could design your own bases.

@nickhenley8040 3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps this could have a revision done where it will wake the pi up upon power re-connection?

@DigitalJedi 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see one of these that can sit on standby until my pi loses power, then kicks on to keep the thing running for a little bit until regular power can be restored.

@pooounderscoreman 3 жыл бұрын

I think you can have a power supply plugged in to both the battery and the Pi while running and the battery will stay full.

@SysAdmin42 3 жыл бұрын

With a USB Solar Panel this could easily be a cool thing for a Camera Box

@jerededmons4313 3 жыл бұрын

it is a HAB that uses *plastic* screws in the boards passthrough bolting locations.. it makes me wonder 2 things. Why plastic.. Did they not properly dress the power planes of the board? And does this eliminate case mounting and stacking of bolts?

@prawnmikus 3 жыл бұрын

Could a small solar panel be used to charge at the same time it's operating?

@todddelozier8172 3 жыл бұрын

I wish there was a better solution to the pi sense hat. The 4 gets too hot for it to be accurate. I modified my build to include a fan, but it didn't help.

@ImranMYousuf 3 жыл бұрын

Did you find any case that would support plugging in a AC/DC power source to the PiSugar 2 Pro from outside the case?

@craigwilliams564 2 жыл бұрын

How do you add a Solar panel to this? Can you simply solder on a 5V solar panel or does it need to go through a charge controller first? It does say you can do this by soldering to the QI input, but no instruction on required spec.

@DP-99 3 жыл бұрын

Hi ETA. Can you please test GameSir X2 with Note 10 Plus or Note 20 Ultra.

@edward_yuen 10 ай бұрын

Any plastic case which we could used for cover/protect PiSugar 2 Pro + Raspberry Pi 4B together ?

@dggameupnrunninggamez4196 3 жыл бұрын

nice move could used this to make a laptop

@dim008on 10 ай бұрын

Good afternoon! Will pisugar 2 plus or pisugar 3 plus work together with POE HAT (A-E revision)?

@ninline2000 3 жыл бұрын

This would be good for a Pi Zero project.

@jmr 3 жыл бұрын

This is a heck of a lot better deal then PiJuice. Shame it won't fit my case.

@paullee107 3 жыл бұрын

Hey eta, I hope you’ll reply: I do love how these boards connect right to the pi & will use this one for a build that is right fitting. However, usb battery packs are so cheap- like $5 for 10,000 mah. Why would one ever use anything other than a usb battery pack? I’m not knocking this product. I like it. Just asking, because it seems like a usb battery pack is perfect- don’t connect it at home, on the go just plug it in. Are there benefits to this that I’m missing?

@Thatdavemarsh 3 жыл бұрын

The safe-shutdown is the real benefit. Making the Pi aware that it is about to shut-down ensures that the OS can properly tidy up and close files/etc before the lights go out. Many of these boards are designed as UPS so that the Pi keeps running if the power goes out for a period. Using just the battery pack usually means that you have to power cycle to remove the pack as many don't support charge and run at the same time. (my two cents)

@NewAgeDIY 3 жыл бұрын

Dave Marsh has really made a case on why it’s very important to safety shut down your Pi. Of course running off a battery pack will work as long as you are aware of amount of available power. I have killed off a few SD cards by not paying attention.

@Thatdavemarsh 3 жыл бұрын

@@NewAgeDIY I run all my "production" RPis off of either a M.2 Sata or SSD Sata - I'm done with the dead SD card. The breaking point was when my PiHole shut down the house for the family when I was out...

@paullee107 3 жыл бұрын

Dale Marcell I wonder if there’s any way to monitor an external (usb) power supply - and use scripts to shutdown when needed. I suppose for ups, while connected to mains, a script could be made to shutdown after a mains interrupt.

@heyidiot 3 жыл бұрын

You said on and off, but that (1:51) looks like an "OFF/NO" switch to me.

@MAD450r2 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a case thats fits it all, but doesnt cause it to run hot?

@CraigMullins1 3 жыл бұрын

If I shit down the battery at 5% is that going to screw with the life of my battery? Should I be shutting down at 50%? Does it mattery with this battery type?

@pooounderscoreman 3 жыл бұрын

Never shit down the battery ; But yes. Usually with these batteries, the recommended range is 30-90% charge for maximum lifespan. Also, cooler is generally better for longevity.

@jacekpiterow900 3 жыл бұрын

Any idea what can I use to power Pi4 automatically after power restore? And shut it down on power failure of course :)

@galdakaMusic 2 жыл бұрын

What is the best case for Rpi4 + Pi sugar + SSD? How to integrate with HA in Hassio?

@ttt-sq6ou 3 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to make this work with a pi 4 and something like the ice tower

@AquaawesomeYT 5 ай бұрын

Does this work on orange pi 5? Thank you in advance, I’m working on a pi based handheld.

@prawnmikus 3 жыл бұрын

Wonder how long it would run with the Pi underclocked to, say, 500 MHz?

@digitalmediafan 3 жыл бұрын

Great but such limited battery life unfortunately. You need a good 20000mah one imo

@imashikda 3 жыл бұрын

I need a case for it.. to use with the 3.7 display

@scotth.hawley1560 3 жыл бұрын

How do you get it to trigger the Pi to shutdown gracefully when the power goes out?

@isaacdestura7495 2 жыл бұрын

Are there any existing cases that this can fit inside?

@sgrisafi 3 жыл бұрын

Can you get a bigger battery and can you use a solar charger for it.

@TheZemog666 3 жыл бұрын

closer and closer to making PiPhone that runs android or linux

@ETAPRIME 3 жыл бұрын

I just received the PinePhone, I’ll have a video up in a bit

@tastybrains Жыл бұрын

It just clicked that it mounts to the bottom of the board! Wow. I've been looking for a solution like this for a while

@DarrenCurrie. 3 жыл бұрын

1:53 looks like it has a convenient OFF and NO switch for power.

@SchoolforHackers 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, OFF and NOT OFF.

@JessicaFEREM 3 жыл бұрын

I still think that the pitop 4 diy has the most portability

@kevincampos6394 2 жыл бұрын

i have a 3b, should still work right?

@zacp6339 3 жыл бұрын

Would this work with an Ice tower on top?

@michaelventarola7100 3 жыл бұрын

Could I attached a solar panel to this to charge he batter?