That would take honesty.

there's perfect spelling in heaven

Doctor holding a patient’s wrist: Nurse, this man is dead or my watch has stopped. Groucho Marx

I’ve always believed that going to sleep and never waking is not horrible at all. Consciousness ends. That’s worst case.

Eternal life is truly terrifying

@@shukridida Yes, I don't think believers really think that through very carefully. I think they just believe God is going to take care of all that anxiety. I mean, why would God allow misery from living forever when he was just fine with slavery and holding people responsible for the sins that he created in people in the first place? It's all such a monumentally silly and spindly construction of beliefs.

@@bobbabai exactly

@@shukridida not if you never aged

They were describing a future virtual reality existence, except such Metaverses will no doubt include sex.

I would say you are YOU, What YOU have become in the mind, in the person, in the character just before you take your last breath and close your eyes from this world! That would be YOU! That would be WE, all of us!! The CHOICE to alter your mind, your person, and your character would come to an end in this world of DUALITY! You will then enter into a dimension where alteration will not be possible, the singularity. There will be no beginning or no end. You will progress ONLY in what you have already BECOME in this present world of DUALITY, where everything is created in PAIRS and has its counterpart. And this anticipated world of SINGULARITY, where things are not paired, have no counterpart and therefore alteration would not be possible, and it would be an ETERNITY, with no beginning and no end! It would be Steady and Continuous Progression in the CHOICE that you had already made in this world. I would suggest here, therefore, to make the choice of the kind of person you would be happy with in this world, that you wouldn't want to change ever before you leave this world! 😀😀😀😀

Lucky...

Are you in heaven or hell?

@@arthurwieczorek4894 lol 😂

LOL, we have a winner

Say hi to Jerry Garcia. Thanks 🙏🏻

If you believe in God. It's your choice to or not. If you do. Fyi God is always spelled with a capital G.Just saying.

You have infinite hapiness, infinite pleasure! Do you want anything else? (Of course you may sleep!)

@@JohnMartim-sy9yf Stop deluding yourself.

YET.

@@Hhjhfu247 You seem to have a non-classical definition of science. Classical science observes things that can be repeated to confirm by anyone. How can science prove the afterlife or God? How can supernatural phenomena be tested?

The fact that it can't be studied is what makes it unscientific...

@@sleeplessdev7204 It can be studied, but not with science.

it's humble in admitting it can't answer everything. but it's the only thing we have to answer anything.

As a practitioner of Nichiren Buddhism and member of the Soka Gakkai ... an international organization of laymen who oracrice

The point is we go to sleep every night and wouldn't know if we never woke up, so what's the problem?

I literally and totally can't comprehend none existence. All I'm fimiliar with is existence.

Open the mind you may find that you have an intelligence that these people have that they would even ask such questions. Unless you feel you have no soul. Need to work on that. For if you find that you believe in a religion then there's a gigantic problem of afterlife called judgement. But we are all human and our little bitty brains might not be able to comprehend what is asked or have an Imagination that truly intelligent people have that makes them extremely smart. But of course I never hear a truly smart person say out loud that they are really, really, really smart. Those people aren't smart if they have to say it. Thus is where a question, basically the same question asked of educated intelligent people that have studied and read about the subject in question. Personally I think He'll is for people that need to be scared into being a good person. When I think of those that wrote our Bibles that humans explained to others in a simple way for humankind to understand. Pleasure is life eternal. No self gratification as we are in the self first existence. If you don't understand then why listen to the questions. It's a feeling as intuition that derp inside we are knowing yet content that understanding completely will come when we have passed this physical existence. I seem to understand so much more such as quantum physics as an example. I am not expert not educated but all my life I've had a Knowing. Yet listening to others answers gives me more proof every day that earthly religions are very simple and teach as though we are all I. Preschool. I enjoy the questions. As these questions are and have been using n the back of my mind my whole life.

Is there actually an afterlife? Is The Good Place version you imagine true just because it's what you want?

Theologically, God created, His creation figured out how to write books, so He inspired one of his creations to write one book in particular. Historically, it was a collection of anecdotes, myths, legends, and parables that had been around for thousands of years, that somebody finally collected and wrote down once the ability to read started becoming more common.

You don't. Religion, naturally, has outdated descriptions of God/Creator. So the tendency among the religious (especially as science emerged & evolved) was to set camp in the general 'creator' space, i.e 'intelligent designer' (something that's easier to defend) and THEN draw parallels back to their respective, very specific Gods.

@@itneeds2bsaid528 Read 2 Timothy 3:16 God did not inspire the bible writers to construct 'myths' or 'legends' - what would be the point? The Bible is instructive, guiding humans on the path to life - it reveals God's standards (laws) that define the difference between right and wrong. The requirements for everlasting life are clearly stated in John 17:3

I think it's all because people love thinking they have access to the OneTruth™. They rejoice in the wrongness of others at least as much as the rightness of what they believe. It's road rage in scripture.

@@bobbabai .. the simple fact is that truth is truth - it stands alone and does not need consensus of opinions that may all be wrong. Not everyone has access to truth because some are wilfully blind to it and others seek to distort and misrepresent it. Without supernatural intervention humankind left to its own devices will steadily sink to the lowest common denominator, hence, the wars, greed and corruption and lack of political agreement and compromise. An historical document accurately foretold the attitude prevalent among people of the 'last days' - 2 Timothy 3:1-4 This same document consisting of 66 books has been used in courts of law as a guarantee by means of conscience and oath for a witness to testify truthfully, yet this same collection of books has been the target for ridicule and criticism by a self-appointed collective ascribing to 'higher' learning and 'critical' thinking preferring their own glory rather than acknowledging the One who created all things and gives truth in abundance to those who sincerely seek it.

If you cannot even imagine it, how do you prepare for it?

@@cloudoftime By studying scriptures and following the spiritual intuition.

Oh super. I'm relieved. A near seamless transition..

Lol

From what you just said impliedly religion is just a crazy idea. Religion was created to decieve people for their own benefit.

Proof is what we want

Same for disbelieving.

No, there are lots of clues, but understanding is very fuzzy from this side.

Trouble is that this way of thinking has caused much wretchedness in the world

@@bogtrotter5110 no it hasn't.

As for death, when it comes, would it not feel like the right time to want to survive? Dropping the body will be nothing short of this intense craving.. survival. Personality coupled with Identity constitutes a Life Vehicle is what we all pray for. In the last analysis.

There's always a woo-woo word salad guy that says nothing lol.

He doesn’t. He’s just too full of himself.

Actually nobody knows really.

loooool. faith isnt about knowing

I dont think most people can truly grasp the concept of eternity. Its just a word to them.

The body dies, and logically with it all the needs and thirsts of having flesh. There's no sex, pizza, and beer in heaven. It's probably gonna look a lot like work. You just need to decide if you can be satisfied with that, or you want to stay haunting this dying wet rock reminiscing forever.

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What’s more being dead didn’t bother you one little bit.

Evidence that you can't find where the Conscious is located for decades and quantum mechanics pointing out that the brain is just a transmitter and conscious is not materialistic thing, which explains why people in comas can hear people, or people under anesthesia can see doctors operate on them, if the brain is a transmitter then ofc if you damage ur radio then the radio won't be able to transmit as well as it did, very easy to understand really but need more reading.

@@poorboi8093 All evidence points to consciousness being a byproduct of the brain. Quantum mechanics says nothing about consciousness or that the brain is a transmitter someones been bullshitting you. I was under anesthetic not long ago, I heard nothing seen nothing. If people in comas hear someone they hear with their ears. if the brain is a transmitter?? if the brain has wheels it must be a car. It's not easy at all which is why it has been discussed for hundreds of years.

@@Bandit19990 people are conscious with half a brain meaning that half of their brain was ripped out, yet they still were they, if it was a product of the brain then that would make no sense, it’s simply not a material thing, I gave you perfect analogy, if u wreck the radio or it gets old it won’t transmit as it used too or not transmit at all, I mean if you have well regarded scientists who are atheists and even they can’t figure it out u expect some children to state that it’s the product of the brain lmao

@Jeremiah I hope I do, but you dont know either so dont act as if you know. Im tired of people thinking something is true just because they believe in it and have it in a book. Stop it.

@@Gabriel-iu5je we believe in it because there are tons of scientific evidence. Not just the church said so.

@@fritzcervz6945 Noup there is not, dont lie to yourself

@@Gabriel-iu5je it's not a lie. Its just you that is so closed minded and too materialistic.

@@fritzcervz6945 yeah it is my fault God doesnr show himself obviously its my fault im so blind and you are so open minded to it, jokes on you.

In other words, an higher or cosmic form of consciousness

@@realnumber9show326 I think depending on the scale, the smallest part of the universe could have an infinite number of experiences depending on the scale of who we are postmortem , and any different configuration of the senses . Our senses inhibit our awareness, not enhance it . In the end though , I think the universe has to be all in our heads anyway because if it were external to us , it would be so eternally vast, we would be unable to be familiar with anything.

@@MrSanford65 So in essence, the all of awareness is our minds. Consciousness creates the universe, and so on and so forth

@@realnumber9show326 Yeah it’s all about the illumination of our own meaning. Basically without being too long winded the mind can only be familiar with the extension of his own concepts. Whatever we know of the universe has already been known to us already because how could a mind supersede its own capacity of what it can know ? We should not be able to learn not one single thing more about the universe because it is quite impossible for the mind to extend itself beyond itself . Space and time are simply measures of a distances between arm meaning and our purposes

why so?

so why even be on youtube? you're message disallows anything past tense or forward

That is like saying that the future is not important.

@@jamese9283 the future is now.

@@hamzaaitbourhim Since I am a creationalist I would say I am the function of I am the current expression of the energy release 15 billion year ago that is coming to flower in me now yeah that it would come to flower in my childrens in the next generation etc absolutely, quantitevly we are 15 billion year old or eternal if you actually count from something, nothing, I don't know., an explosion. You have absolute value. You have eternal being. And you could even say it took 15 billion year it took eternity to make me that I the stuff of I have always been. It just coalescing in me any given year however it has always been. You follow. One of the things Jesus realized in the last supper is that this person he used to think was born in 3 bc or c depending of how you are counting was really an expression of eternal being of God. You can come to that understanding if you look at the starts tonight and say how does all this fit together? What am I looking at? What does this say about me? You could say it took 15 billion year it took eternity to make me WOW! Your body is a physical expression of divine and absolute being. However we tent no to make that statement. We tent to go the other way of who one is in term of God.

Of course speculation is the only way we can think of it at all. If there is nothing at all then there is nothing and we cease to exist period even in Spirit. But I do not believe the afterlife or say after death of the physical life that we become ceaseless. We are not past being a human. The difference we have from animals is the ability to think and ask such questions. Easy to look at eternity as an existence that is just like what we have right now. We have a lot you. Learn yet. As I've said previously we are still in preschool. It's those that waste our time talking about things they may never get at all, and more than likely if religious you hold your beliefs as a right to judge all others. Which is self-righteous. I don't want to be like that I want to. Learn. Why ammo reading the comments? Curiosity of Psychology and why humans are acting the way they are considering it's the 21st Century. Seems easier to regress back 50 years and act like the Beaver asking his older brother a question. That is what I feel people have decided to to act like these days. Easy to listen and believe even when what you makes no sense. I always question. Everyone dislikes the way I think for myself. But if I didn't I wouldn't have the happiness I have had because I would be convinced that hell would be my eternity.

it’s not sad. look at it like before you were born

How do you know this?

@@oskarngo9138 These concepts have been documented and illustrated throughout time. From the greatest philosophers, scientists, and theologians

@@realnumber9show326 That doesn't make those concepts accurate.

@@golden-63 Accuracy, is based in the understanding of proof. These concepts have been presented time and time again

So far i do not know anybody who lives forever, but i like your theory

People who have had NDE’s are not an authority on anything in particular.

@@moonshoes11 Even if people who have had NDEs were an “authority” on a particular subject this an appeal to authority fallacy lol!! Equally, what if a doctor had NDEs he’s clearly an authority on something isn’t he? medicine perhaps lol!! Sorry but your triggered comment does not even make sense!!

@@georgedoyle2487 First, my comment wasn’t based on being triggered. So, it is obvious you’re projecting. The point you missed is that just because someone has an NDE experience, doesn’t mean they’re qualified to make informed or correct conclusions about their experience. It seems to me, you want to accept a brain which is experiencing trauma and lacking oxygen somehow becomes magic. Sorry if you can’t understand. I can type more slowly if it helps.

@@georgedoyle2487 It isn’t an appeal to authority fallacy if they were an authority on the subject of NDE’s. The pot you’re so gleefully willing to ignore is that even if someone who experiences an NDE isn’t an authority on the subject.

@@moonshoes11 “Magic” “I can type more slowly” Ho the irony!! Talk about triggered lol. I definitely easily rattled your cage. (Relativism, strictly reductive materialism, militant atheism or philosophical naturalism): “The belief that there was “nothing”, and nothing didn’t really mean nothing as there was no such thing as meaning, and then nothing much happened to nothing except nothing and then nothing suddenly magically exploded for no reason whatsoever, creating everything, and then a bunch of everything suddenly magically rearranged itself -- for no reason whatsoever -- into self replicating bits which then turned into something that meant everything. But ultimately it didn’t really mean everything or anything as everything is ultimately meaningless.” (Atheism) And they mock other peoples beliefs!! Yeah perfectly “sane” and makes perfect sense lol. About as much sense as your “triggered” “magic” argument!! Not to mention your appeal to “authority” fallacy!!

In Islam the resurrection is not with the physical body.

In Islam, the idea of spirit differs from all other contemporary religions.The Islamic equivalent of spirit do not mean any immaterial entity.The most obvious verse in Quran about the spirit (ruh in Arabic) claims it to be a set or array of God’s command. If we recall the biological phenomena of our birth it becomes apparent that as soon as our parent’s chromosomes cross over ,a very large number of chemically coded commands start coming from our parent’s genes to construct the foetus.This set or array of commands may have been referred in Quran as ruh or spirit.It’s like a mathematical operator a matrix with billions of elements,when enacts on proportioned building materials,produces living beings.There is nothing abstract or immaterial in Islamic faith.Quran in essence describes the physics of everything,not unreal metaphysics.

@@mddeedaruddoha2968 According to your interpretation , when Humans die the spirit vanishes since everything is material ,this is against the Quran

please refer verse 17:84 of Quran.This is perhaps the most unambiguous verse about the “spirit”(ruh in Arabic) in the Quran.It is said to be all about God’s commands related to our creation.There is no other verse in Quran suggesting that it is not.So the idea that human posses a ghost like immortal substance is not found or implied any where in Quran.It’s a set set of God’s command.And that’s preserved in the cosmos and conserved as any other set of information. It will ominously and surely be used by the evolving universe at a certain point in it’s journey towards the end.This mechanics of universal physical resurrection is already been there as set fourth by God.So where is the relevance of a ghost like immaterial substance called spirit?

@@mddeedaruddoha2968 Our disagreement is about whether the resurrection is physical or not? You've said that Humans don't possess an immortal self but in the same time you're saying the Spirit is a set of command that will be preserved!! Do you believe that the resurrection will be with the bodies we're having now on this earth? Can you explain what will happen to us after death,of course using your understanding of Quranic verses.

i do not know anybody who lives forever, i know a lot who want to

Have a look at Sufism, fascinating.

Lol

'We can do anything we want and desire' - exactly what the majority of people are doing right now. Look around and see the results - violence, greed, selfishness - your 'Heaven' won't be much different. In any case, you've entirely missed the point - the Bible defines the conditions that will exist in the future and human behavior will determine the outcome for each individual. No-one will escape the coming day of judgement - some will survive and others will not.

@@Chris_Sheridan we cannot do anything we want. I cannot eat without any consequences. Heaven is more detailed in the Quran. There is only one heaven. Not mine or yours. Before goin there everyone will be cleansed. There will be no hatred. Infact this is mentioned in our teachings. You should read up.

@@DWAGON1818 Why should I read up on your nonsense? You don't know what you're talking about. Humans will not get a free pass to heaven or anywhere else - there is going to be a judgement - a separation of the wicked from the righteous. The wicked will be destroyed because they did not repent of their wicked deeds - the righteous are those who complied and submitted to doing God's will - they will receive everlasting life after the final judgement. This is taught in scripture that precedes the Qu'ran.

@@Chris_Sheridan if you haven't read it then why are you quoting the Quran. What you just wrote about the Judgement day is how it is mentioned in the Quran. I guess we don't have a problem.

@@DWAGON1818 I haven't quoted anything from the Qu'ran - I have presented an outline of what the Bible teaches. Further, the Bible is more specific on matters concerning heaven and earth. The Qu'ran has nothing to say about future events that will take place on earth - only the Bible contains prophecy - future knowledge can only be revealed by God. Psalm 37:10, 11 & 29 2 Timothy 3:1-4 Jesus foretold world events that would take place during the 'last days' - Matthew chapter 24 & Luke chapter 21.

You seem to have more than one problem. Stating the obvious about Christianity and pretending that no one else thinks this or that it's true. Every Christian thinks what you think by the sounds of it. Jesus hasn't taught you anything by what you've written here. Updates, you're such a tease like all religious people. Teasing yourself mainly.

start breaking the pills in half

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Islam, ,, "and whoever seek other than ilam as religion will not be accepted from him and in the hereafter will be one of the losers" ,, this a vers from the holy quran

To elaborate, say there was some god that made it so you never got bored, as boredom is just a state of not feeling interest in something. This would then change the meaning of boredom, and the concept of "freedom" (which some of these people believe in). If this God could simply remove your boredom, then you could literally do the same task over and over, or stare at a wall, and not be bored. You wouldn't need to have the option to do "endless" things. But I bet this situation doesn't sound enticing to these hopeful theists.

@@cloudoftime if boredom is removed then freedom is removed as well

@@fparent That was the entitlement of my point. However, if a god created the nature of humans such that we become bored, we were forced to experience that boredom. And we are forced to feel the desire for the things that relieve our boredom. We don't choose our interests, they just occur to us based on our natural inclinations which are from our nature which was forced upon us by this alleged "God". There isn't any freedom in that anyway.