AND PEOPLE CALL ME WEIRD

I don't need a face reveal, I need a desk reveal! I want to see properly how strange this set up is

"you won decked out like this?" has me crying laughing

Etho slab is one of the creatures of all time

„Its a recent thing“ „The last 10 years“

"in case i ever get a new computer" a guy with a tissue box for a mic stand, broken keyboard, totally could spend that money on a pc lol

It's insane to me that Mumbo and Etho are on the same server. Mumbo has the nicest, highest end setup in existence, complete with an ergonomic chair and triple monitors and everything, meanwhile Etho balances his mic on Kleenex box. And Etho is the better Minecraft player.

"He doesn't have a smartphone, he can't help us Tango" SCAR LMAO 😂

I love how Tango can’t accept that mouse usage is based on feel, not sight

Etho, bringing a chair to a standing desk: "hmm... yeah, this'll do"

No wonder sometimes he talked about how he can't see his keyboard while typing

he's basically using a giant laptop, instead of the track pad its a mouse

Furthermore, if Etho's desk is so high that his arms are nearly parallel (and he is a big dude), like, Bdub's would be resting his chin on such a setup. 😮

Part of me thinks he didn’t do it out of any big brainwave but his chair broke in the down position and adapted until he could get a new chair but took so long to get the new chair that it was to weird to go back

It's like his arms envelop every part of his desk, like a greedy goblin trying to desperately hold onto his coins.

etho and mumbo need to adopt a child so they can teach it the Eldritch knowledge of keyboard and desk mangling

we need a realistic fanart of this

Etho doesn't need to see his keys, when he needs to type in the chat he asks the bear he befriended over maple syrup to type the message for him.

I will literally sell my soul to Mr slab himself for a photo of his setup, HIS DESK IS LITERALLY SHOULDER HEIGHT WHAT THE HELL-

The mouse problem only exists because of the tissue setup. The mouse situation only got that bad because of the tissue box he refuses to get rid of and then he convinced himself that this is a better setup than everybody else. Outstanding lmao. It's like learning how to ride a unicycle because you refuse to change your bike's bursted tire

I love how Tango is comparing Etho's setup to Mumbo shifting with his thumb... no, Mumbo is weird, Etho is inhuman

you can see tango's brain getting fried as Etho explained this XD

i was laughed at work because i have my same mouse setup for 8 years (without the tissue box) and now i learned that one of my favorite youtubers has the same setup as me.

Scar thinking he'd be able to see Etho's ender chest contents is classic and a perfect place for the cut. I've made the same mistake more than once. I've even walked to another players house and left them a gift in their ender chest because it was the first chest I found.

Etho is such a strange creature i love it

With those pistons representing Etho, he is a redstone construct, confirmed.

Etho saying he never noticed stress from a too tall task after explaining that desk layout he came up with to be comfortable is peak etho!

Etho is one of a kind! How he makes videos is "unique". He doesn't record a bunch then edit it down to a video. He records 1 clip at a time. Meaning he records a clip, adds it to the video he's working on, then if he likes it records the next clip.

The mouse setup is just the way for tall or long armed individuals, very comfy

Etho is living proof that all it takes to be good at KZfaq is skill and personality

Etho gaslights tango and scar into believing his setup is accceptable

This man is so vague and cryptic. Canada is terrified, Everyone around the globe is terrified.

etho sits at a standing desk

3:27 This gives me flashbacks to Etho's carpal tunnel issues during the later days of Mindcrack, this makes a lot of sense now

Well, the order does goes "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle". If Etho did needed that box at some point and are now reusing it. Well, he is doing more for environment than people who just out-right recycle. :D

This sounds like an old school Quake thing. Back in the day of LAN tournaments with massive monitors space was much less forgiving and compression of your space was necessary, which not only made up weird mouse placements like that but also pioneered keyboard tilting back in the day when pretty much nothing was smaller than TKL (pretty much only the Model M SSK was the only consumer model at the time smaller than full size).

This is might be like the left-handed theory they’ve been talking on stream. Etho might actually able to beat Gem in pvp if he got desk mat and place his mouse in good place, who knows…

Love that these guys can just have a regular old chat and exhibit their friendship, makes them so much more human and relatable

To be fair to Etho, I do not think this is anywhere near as weird as Mumbo's thumb shifting

fun fact, the now standard of wasd came from a Quake player remapping his keys from the arrow keys to wasd, and other people noticed it, and tried it, and it is now the standard. (also the developers of Quake, Id Software, noticed it and made it the default)

Everyone talks about Mumbo pressing shift with his thumb when ethos been doing this the whole time

I dont care about seing Etho's face but we NEED a setup picture at some point.

I think the pivotal info was the desk height. Try it for yourself and you'll see that it is actually more comfortable to do it that way when you have a high desk

I moved a kitchen chair to a bar level countertop and put my keyboard and mouse in the position Etho does and guys it’s actually so comfortable?? Like the counter right up against my arms kept me from slouching and it was shockingly ergonomic for my wrists and neck?? Etho is a madman but he’s found a way to cheat the game irl and it w o r k s

I love his set up so much, it is my favorite thing ever

Etho's way is actually what I often do! It actually IS way more comfortable. I am an architect irl and often get wrist, palm and shoulder cramps after a day at work. I randomly tried a different mouse hand position and I rarely get muscle aches anymore

It sounds like Etho is hunched (wide armed) over his desk, and mouse like a boozehead at a bar nursing an empty glass. The fixation on an old kleenex box just adds to the homeless vibes of the whole scene. 😂

Etho being an apparently tall guy having his chair at the lowest setting means his knees have to be super high

Tried the Etho setup. It does actually feel more comfortable

Hello miners and crafters, after 666 comments here, it's become clear that there is legit merit to some of what Etho does, other people do it, especially people like old school quake gamers (at 37 he's on the young end but hell maybe Etho was at LAN parties). Some people, after watching this, have *tried* some of this and been pleased. I put this clip up to watch block people roast each other, and now I've changed the lives of a handful of people with wrist strain. Life moves in mysterious ways, but there's one thing we can all agree on - GET A NEW KEYBOARD (won decked out with a broken spacebar for the love of god please etho please be good to yourself, etho if you somehow read this just buy a new one and *try* it you can reject it give keralis a post office box okay thank you for your content you make us smile.)

High desks are super comfy. The last office I worked at, I had my desk adjusted to slightly below shoulder height. When your arms are then going over the desk, the desk is supporting your upper body, taking weight off of your spine and encouraging good straight back posture. I always find myself slouching at “normal height” desks, regardless of how ergonomically fancy a chair is being used.

I was called weird for how I have my mouse! Im glad to see Etho does the same lol

I was watching the stream of this at work and was occupied for a bit and came in when Tango said "so I'm on your right elbow now?" And I had no idea what I'd walked into. This makes so much more sense but also no sense at all. 😂😂

For those who don't know why Tango keeps mentioning Mumbo's thumb: Mumbo uses his thumb to press the shift key.

i’m obsessed with this man what on earth is he talking about in this whole entire video. he’s off his rocker i feel insane

His desk height would explain the change actually. When my old chair broke I had to bend my wrist to use my mouse because the desk was so high and it REALLY messed up my wrist over time. His mouse posture would fix that but feel worse at a normal desk height since you'd have to hunch to actually use it. Also his mouse movements would be the same to him, right is still right it's just positioned differently. His arm moves the same.

Freak of nature

He can't get rid of the tissue box, it's a beloved reoccurring character!

I love that "Mumbo thumb" is the top of the scale. XD

i want to remind everyone that Ethoslab is your favorite minecraft youtuber's favorite minecraft youtuber

My arm rests are lower than my desk, my elbows are on the arm rests, my wrists are at the edge of my desk, and my wrists are also in-line with my lower arms.

It sounds to me like he’s basically positioned like a tired student sleeping on their desk, but like actually productive

The sholder height desk and sideways mouse are comfy

Hell. I think it is time we all play more like etho. Something is clearly going right

my brother is a big guy too for an Asian. he's 6'2 and he plays closely to this setup of keyboard and mouse. another unique thing he does is he loves playing FPS games but when he's using WASD keys, he's only using two fingers (Thumb & Index Finger) to press them and the remaining three(3) fingers to press the number keys.

when my mic stand broke i used a pop tart box to hold my mic and it got destroyed so fast needed a new box

You know, the way I started watching Tango kind of started as me watching his VODs for extra Etho content. This does not disappoint xD

6:20 ETHO FACE REVEAL?!?!

I never knew that was a weird way to hold a mouse… I’ve always done that😅

umm.... I also do it that way, never realized it wasn't normal.

NO WONDER HE'S RUSTY AT PVP AND BAD AT PARKOUR He's holding back his true power from us by handicapping himself with the setup

Pretty straight forward, and the mouse is comfy. I dont have a desk but it's not uncommon for me to use the mouse the same way on my belly

You know, I don't think I'll do the weird parallel mouse thing, but the arm resting on the desk is actually really nice. You don't need your whole forearm up to the elbow resting on the desk, just like half of it and it really does change your wrist position in a comfortable way.

I really do understand the reasoning for the mouse location, but using a good wrist cushion will help a lot with the straining. Those ones which aren't attached to a mouse pad.

Deranged is right jfc

that's actually a very 'artist' type of using your elbows and not your wrists. way healthier for the joints

I need an artist/animator to help me understand this

the desk at shoulder height is absolutely *insane*

“You won decked out like this?” Had me rolling. But hey if it works it works and I can see the benefits of it. When I tried it the keyboard was too far away to make sufficient space but with higher sensitivity I could’ve made it work.

People are going to need an artist’s interpretation of this, like what happens with ancient civilisations and stuff lol.

2.5 million subscribers KZfaqr everyone! lol

i definitly didnt expect tango to look like this

Woah, that mouse and keyboard placement is actually good. You can rest both elbows on your desk, I feel less strain. The armrests on my chair doesnt reach as far as I might want, so this setup is actually goated.

I've tried out Etho's mouse thing and it is SO confortable like wtf. Holding it horizontal is PERFECT and Mumbo's thumb thing is also lretty comfy, just most likely won't stick to it as often as Etho's mouse thing. Now I WANT Etho's keyboard set-up to work but my desk isn't long enough for that so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yknow i thought "theres no way they spend the whole 15 minute video on this subject" but nope, it turns out etho's setup genuinely requires 15 minutes worth of explanation. what a legend

The mouse thing isn’t that weird, I rest my forearm on the desk and my mouse naturally sits at like a 45 degree angle

All of the hermits: *screams in rsi*

Yknow, coming back to this clip: Etho's setup works for me

This was actually the recommended way to hold the computer mouse by my physical therapist. It's a lot more natural for your hands/arms as they're not twisted unnaturally. It's more natural to hold your hands in front of you toward the middle, like holding your hands together.

What’s worse Mumbo shift or how Etho holds his mouse

I need to see this set up so bad XD I NEED IT!!! Etho just needs to have someone come over, take pictures of his set up so his face can't be caught in any reflections, and then post that. Because even with Tango doing his thing. I can still barely imagine

*inhales* THIS MAN /pos Etho is so awesome I swear! He deserves the best in life

I just exclaimed out loud, “This is making horrible sense, and I don’t want it to!!”

Etho needs to buy a playmat for his desk. Like the ones that you get for playing card games on

ngl, that feels comfortable on the back

tried it and feels very naturally actually, your hand still knows whats up and down relative to itself so you dont really have to think about it and it looses up alot of my shoulder tension

That is the most deranged setup I have ever seen, and I almost had a stroke trying to recreate this myself. That is WILD.

Nothing made sense until he mentions how high the desk is, ofc it's more comfortable it's like he's sitting at a bar!

elbow on the desk with the mouse sideways is actually pretty comfortable to play with. in the old days a lot of quake players used to do similar stuffs at lan or internet cafes when there really wasnt enough space on the desk to game at a high level. another strat ill reccomend that some ppl may or may not enjoy is to place your keyboard on your lap/knee when you play games. ive heard some ppl find that pose comfortable as well

This was art