Soon I hope!

@Kilotip1 I wonder when Etsy will be sued for taking renewal fees for every sale while the product has not been sold out yet and the 4 month period has not ended yet.

They did that to me it said I violated a policy even tho I haven’t used that account in a couple years one product that’s it.

I setup a shop on Sunday, uploaded 20 product designes (which had countries flags in them) paid the outstanding debt which the dashbaord said was due on the 15th of april (it is now the 10th of april.) got banned last night. No reason provided. shop lasted 3 days. Before my first bill was due.

@@Alex-ds6oz but the renewal fee makes sense? It's 0.20c per item (quantity), not per listing. Imagine, you selling one of a kind t-shirt, where your quantity is 1 and you pay .20c listing fee, and then I sell 999 of the same t-shirts using print on demand and I only pay .20c to sell all of these too? That wouldn't be fair.

Exactly it’s ridiculous the way Etsy handles things.

that's crazy they held for so long! I don't understand what gives them the right to do it. Why aren't more people suing them!

I just started my store within the last two months and I've noticed those very issues. I GET the holding funds thing, but I don't get that one of the requirements to be met for release of funds is a tracking number and/or shipping information is updated. Those requirements are met by the POD site that I use, but the funds are still being held for a little bit. It's not a huge deal because the funds are released fairly quickly, but I just wonder about it all since requirements are being met. Unless I am supposed to enter that tracking number stuff somewhere manually.

​@@billwilliams4281My guess is they want to be sure buyers receive an actual product. My brother recently made a purchase and he received an empty box. He had the tracking number and everything, but then inside the box there was only bubble wrap :/

I have experienced this very issue. My shop was open for 3 months and within a few days of making my first sale it was shut down for "violating Etsy's seller terms" or something but I have never been given a detailed or specific reason or violation. They are still holding my money from that sale. Apparently, if your shop gets closed/banned they prohibit you from ever selling OR shopping on Etsy's platform forever? It's all beyond ridiculous. I had already opened a shop via Shopify so that's where I sell now and it's a much better experience as they have so many options to help grow and market your brand.

100%

oh my God I’m a new seller as well and I agree with you. I have a good perception because I just started and that’s what I see. I feel like a criminal. I hear all the stories, and it did happen to me that they held my money, and my father had to bail me out in the very beginning because I got suddenly bombarded with orders and it was my first time and I didn’t know what to do but now seeing everything that’s going on it’s like pulling teeth to get seen to know this to know that they don’t inform you about anything they don’t answer any questions it’s like horrible the way they treat sellers on this platform and because most of us are you know kind of desperate to make money in this world and he got economy they’re taking advantage of us like everything else that’s wrong, that’s my opinion

I totally agree. Their original ethos died years ago.

How many companies will provide you with the opportunity to start your own business for a mere $15?

@@StopTheWorldIWantOff65 What company charges $15 to then quickly close your account with no customer service or feedback? Umm, Etsy? Here's a silly idea: "Hello valued seller! It seems we've experienced a glitch regarding your account. We are here for you to help resolve this moving forward." Apparently ghosting is the new customer service model.

@@StopTheWorldIWantOff65 But they keep the money and you have to still fulfill orders and you can't tell when you get pay after.

@@justbdsd4569 Right. They want to make sure new sellers aren't fly-by-night.

ye this was my biggest concern. Someone paying, then getting banned with no cause

that's good!

You’re very welcome ☺️

Etsy isn't smart enough to make distinct marketplaces.

😐you are right...

Yup, try finding a handmade ceramic mug that ISN'T POD or a temu/alibaba product

@@belindaroadley Totally. I make ceramic mugs (for fun, not for sale) and the price I'd have to charge for them on Etsy would make them unsellable. People on Etsy want cheap items, not handmade. I started selling handmade items on Etsy in 2005 and it was such a great place w so many rad handmade items. Now it's a portal for cheap sh1t made in countries utilizing slave labor. YUCK!

haha

100% thanks for watching!

thank you!

Glad it was helpful!

ye I guess that's a lot worse

Aren't they already? 😭🤣

There’s already Chinese sellers on Etsy. There’s also scammy sellers from every country, it’s not exclusive to China

That's literally what pod is for many 😂

ah that's annoying, but a good problem to have if you're getting all those sales

Sue them

yea that's true as well

Agreed. Everyone should be doing this and I don't think they are doing enough. If you're going to run a business you need to be prepared to run a business and you should be bringing value. Making it so easy to sell junk destroys the market and makes it challenging for consumers who now have to navigate a jungle of money grabbers. I hope at some point we bring law that prevents sellers from pretending they invented products that they found in a browsing session the night before.

You can buy your own product directly from the printing partner, that'll also save you a bunch of money. That's if you wanted to take your own pictures. Mockups is a massive deal and i'll make a video on that so everyone is aware

@@shimmymorris1 Thanks and I will look forward to your video on the mockups. I imagine that Etsy closes shop when someone complains that the shirt on the mockup did not look like the one they received because their policy is that it has to be an original shot. If there is lots of T-shirts listed, buying each for photo would be a huge expense. I heard some people make the mockup like 20% dimmer in photoshop so that would look more realistic, less likely to disappoint but still that's still operating under the Etsy's hammer that can drop at any moment so to speak. I wish they change that mockup rule.

good idea! I'm not from Australia but I could definitely make some content for you

It may come as a shock, but most these people deserve their bans.

That was my experience. Opened a new shop they kept asking for more ID which I sent suddenly out if the blue permanently suspended. Appeal denied of course no explanation.

ye that was my biggest concern too

it’s not bad that they make a payment of $15, but they use artificial intelligence for the service and it’s terrible... although if you heard, then Amazon was cunning, instead of AI, they used a bunch of Indians behind monitors and tracked customers in Whole Foods is ridiculous..

ye that's true!

Don't worry, it's not like you were going to have any success 😂😂

No, etsy has hundreds of millions of visitors a month, you can rely on organic traffic if you wanted, it's just a lot harder and a lot slower.

And how does opening up to sellers in China fit in?

I think you’re right and this could actually be a good thing

I don’t believe that. They’re bringing China in. I think they’re trying to get rid of the stores who are just copying off of all the other stores, because most of the Etsy gurus teach people to basically steal a best selling design, and slap it on a T-shirt or mug, instead of using your own creativity, and not stealing best sellers designs. So, now, they first said they were going to charge $15, then, next, they open it up to China, they’re going to get a lot of more sellers, who will have to pay that $15, and they will be creative and they will figure out a way to just drop ship. So, they’re getting rid of the stores that are doing the same old thing, so when China comes in, they will all have to pay the $15, and many of them will actually be creative, and the others will just do straight drop-shipping. Etsy really only cares about the money, not their sellers, unless they are big sellers.

Most fraudulent company on the Internet. We were sellers. Had a 4.9 out of 5 rating. Without any explanation removed our privileged. Had $2500 due us for orders. Cancelled all orders.

@@richardackerberg5912😮

I think setting up your own store is the best alternative. you make your own terms

nothing would surprise me anymore

make no mistake someone at etsy, looked at all the money going straight out and was thinking stuff this. Hold back lets make a ton of money in interest.

awesome! it's on the books

ye i hear that. 15 isn't much in the grand scheme of things

it's taking a while to make, it's a mega video!

@@shimmymorris1 waiting it so much, it gonna be the guide line for my pod idea, if you can mention in it which t-shirt is better in printify I would be very thankful 💕

Thank you! Glad you liked the video. Interesting! Ye opening doors to china was a real shock. I guess we'll see how that one pans out

Honestly, I would just stick with Etsy or take the leap to Shopify

It will expire after your first 90 days. My old Etsy shops didn’t have payment reserves but the ones I made recently do. It doesn’t affect digital shops. Payments are only released once it’s “marked delivered” and the customer ensures they received and like the product. eBay did “payment reserves” for a long time. I wasn’t surprised by it because PayPal held my money from eBay 😂 but it is annoying for people who have to ship because shipping charges are higher now. You can use “pirate ship” to save a little money but it’s still a major expense for new sellers. Especially on top of seller fees and taxes.

That’s true!!!

@@shimmymorris1

Agree. Younger people who grew up in the Etsy era don't understand it's unrealistic to start a business with no capital.

​@@StopTheWorldIWantOff65 I hope you are not DEFENDING the ideal of there being businesses that are very low-cost or free to start. You are a disgusting person if you are.

@@StopTheWorldIWantOff65true in a sense but should be possible bc of what’s happening

ye thats true!

So the way it works is. Customer pays you via Etsy. (Etsy hold your money) You pay printify to print and ship the product After a few days Etsy released your money to you.

@@wyi56hzuk75f Lower barrier of entry flooded the market.

Awesome! Have you joined the free community to start? The first announcement will be in there

ye that's very true!

wouldn't surprise me

i hope so too! and i hope they change the withholding money situation

I know PayPal does garbage like this. And they can straight up seize your funds sometimes too.

They are already "big corporate".

hey, i need to go through all requests and manually accept :D

@@shimmymorris1 oh ok man take your time just to know I like your channel happy to be part of your community

You're a scammer that's why. Typo errors shows you're not even in the US

any thing is possible if you put the work in. I prefer Shopify but etsy can work too

Oh that’s odd. I haven’t banned anyone yet. If you answered all the questions then you’ll soon be accepted. I just haven’t gone through all the requests yet

That just happened to me on a different social media platform. I emailed them, and they answered within 20 minutes and fixed it. They thought I was a bot, apparently. 😂 Shimmy is awesome, so he will get you in.

Like @iolanda7791, I was banned. What should I do? What is the email address for support. Thank you.

haha

i'll look into it

@@shimmymorris1 Thank you

aw thank you!

Good luck with it!

nothing would surprise me!

Oh damn! That’s annoying. Usually when it’s an automatic ban from the computer a human reverses it. Sorry this hasn’t worked out for you

You make some excellent points!!

I believe they did that because they opened the market to China. Since only certain countries/sellers will have to pay…notice, they decided to start charging $15, and three weeks later opened it up to China. That is who they will charge, and China will turn Etsy into the next Amazon drop-shipping central. Sure, there will be some actual creative people, now too, they’re some of the most creative people I have seen, but a lot of it will be drop shipped junk. So, I feel bad for handmade sellers, and true artists, because of all the ai and now this. 🤦‍♀️ For someone to sell AI on there, I don’t know how they can say it is handmade. Many of them don’t even have the errors fixed, or they don’t add a human touch to it, so I am not sure how they can sell any of that as handmade…they type a few words into a computer, they don’t do anything else, except type a few words. Actually, they even have a Chat bot to write the prompts, then they copy and paste. SMH. And, they actually teach people how to do that, on top of it all. I don’t think $15 is bad, because other places charge a monthly fee, but I do think it is why they did that before opening up to China, because that is who they are targeting with the $15, I think. Maybe they think it will stop scammers and drop shippers, but it won’t, it’s going to get wild, now. I won’t even shop on Etsy, at this point, since it’s all garbage, you have to sift through so much garbage and bad designs, now, before you can get to the actual handmade, hand painted, stuff.

@@MissMolly3377I think you are too worried about AI on Etsy. The reality is that AI isn’t stealing most of the sales on the platform. Etsy was incredibly competitive before AI and it still is now.

@@MissMolly3377 wtf is a “human touch.” It sounds like you’re trying to cope with the fact that AI can make better art than a lot of artists.

@@jameezybreezy9030 yeah it "makes art" by scraping (aka stealing) and rearranging art from real artists.

have you considered amazon?

Sounds like its much more than that. Theyve allowed digital products and various types of shops for a long while, many sucesses..so who deems it crap? Cuz Im sure many here and all over tell a diff story. At min tgey need to tell people the type of violation if in fact there was one.

@@HWWillnerthink the comment was speaking about dropshipping garbage brought from AliExpress which is what’s ruining Etsy for everyone

I know that! But a lot of people go into pod because it’s “free”

ye that's the one that annoyed me most, not knowing when you'll get paid

this is going to change etsy completely for sure

We small sellers cannot compete with China's free postage 😢

haha, ye that's true

for some people yes. it's all relative

Well there has to be more to that. There are tons of POD sellers on Etsy and they don’t care. What you have to ensure is you clearly list your POD supplier in your shop AND now, not use your own product mock-ups that do not use the actual product. For example you use a t-shirt mock up that has a different shape or length to the actual product.

Half of all americans are living in poverty, every fucking dollar matters when it's stolen

And don't even get me started on the scam messages. I get them every time I post anything on my second shop.

yes that's true, this could weed out a lot of crap for sure!

So, yeah, this doesn't really seem like a bad thing...

ye that's true!

And they did mention about Chinese sellers.

yea it's going to be very tough