EU4 Guide: Conquer the World With Ryukyu - Vassal Swarm Strategy

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In this EU4 guide we will cover how to conquer the world as Ryukyu easily and with daimyo swarms. If you've ever wanted to obtain the three mountains achievement - this is by far the easiest way possible. Good luck with Ryukyu, I hope this guide helps. Confirmed on patch 1.27 and beyond 1.28+!
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@Colteor7761
@Colteor7761 5 жыл бұрын
Step 1, full annex Ming.
@dmitrirudder4878
@dmitrirudder4878 5 жыл бұрын
Step Three: Annex France and Iberia, and Turkey if you have the time.
@andreybobr5464
@andreybobr5464 5 жыл бұрын
Call florry, he might be interested
@FantasKanal
@FantasKanal 5 жыл бұрын
Step 4: Have Byzantine Empire as Daimyo
@tape1337
@tape1337 5 жыл бұрын
Step 8: full annex Ming
@Youuuuuu
@Youuuuuu 5 жыл бұрын
Step 9: Profit????
@RexOedipus.
@RexOedipus. 5 жыл бұрын
Cowardly? Our troops are valiantly waiting for the Japanese invasion in Ryukyu. It was only bevause of their initiative that Ryukyu wasn't invaded
@praisethefools
@praisethefools 5 жыл бұрын
Shogun 2 total war sound track...nice
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
Shogun 2 is awesome. Thank you for watching.
@HurricaneHunter03
@HurricaneHunter03 5 жыл бұрын
"Stage Three: Before the Storm" Don't you mean "The Swarm"?
@Onebadterran
@Onebadterran 5 жыл бұрын
Once Russia forms and is your vassal it is not a bad idea to give them one of the "gatekeeper" provinces and let them through to colonize the rest of siberia for you. May as well utilize their powerful abilities for your own benefit if possible.
@fathertimeo3908
@fathertimeo3908 5 жыл бұрын
How chaotic would it be to also become the emperor of the HRE once Catholic and get that vassal swarm as well?
@reaperzwei845
@reaperzwei845 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt can and has been done.
@cjohnson3836
@cjohnson3836 5 жыл бұрын
There is a strategy for this. Steal/buy maps to no CB Shirvan/vassalize Shirvan. Use their claims to attack neighbor. Seize province. I forget the next step but the idea is to get over into the HRE, taking advantage of the same no AE because not discovered trick that you can use in India.
@luisricardolozadaamaya670
@luisricardolozadaamaya670 3 жыл бұрын
too early
@CherriPicking
@CherriPicking 5 жыл бұрын
so, basically, the idea is to take the shogunate and turn it into the hre vassal swarm 2.0? very interesting... it seems as though i need to pick up dharma really badly, then.
@gregmccauley1687
@gregmccauley1687 5 жыл бұрын
if you ever wondered why people refer to dlc as pay to win
@Timon-IrishFolk
@Timon-IrishFolk 5 жыл бұрын
@@gregmccauley1687 but you can do the achievement without the DLC AND you are not even “winning“, yeah I get the hate against PDX but come on.
@gregmccauley1687
@gregmccauley1687 5 жыл бұрын
@@Timon-IrishFolk yeah... they aren't my words but the idea is that each new DLC (most of them any way) give you a new button that you press for some bonuses. No button, no bonus! Also, the AI sucks at using DLC features. Notice every horde ever reforms into republic. I did the achievement a long time ago by culture shifting to Manchu and raising banners, it was very fun. (wait for Yeren to get into defensive war, no CB them to dogpile on, vassalize, wait 50 years, integrate, while developing and colonizing to Mexico for gold)
@buemend
@buemend 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, I'd argue that golden century is a major nerf to everyone. Weeeeeell, not the dlc, but patch 1.28 I guess. Hmm
@rostigerrolf4490
@rostigerrolf4490 5 жыл бұрын
@A Handsome Fella The game and all dlcs were just on sale for 70 Euro, without the newest ones. Or you are refering to Australian dollars.
@vladimirbrabec69
@vladimirbrabec69 5 жыл бұрын
Let me add some revelations I did because I repeated this strategy about 100 times :))) (I'm pretty much unsuccesfull in mid game) 1. Starting with building 2 cogs is not so important - much better way is stack galleys because of naval dominance. Sometimes hosokawa is eager to attack your fleet and without 6 or 7 galleys it is defeat for about 85%. Galleys are helpfull too in war with Ashikaga. 2. There are 3 effective nations Hosokawa attack - Kono, Amago and one of Tsutsui/Ishiki - I recomend always ally all three of them (Decision between last two depend on strenght of their allies - check every month) - works for 99% 3. In war with hosokawa wait for good time to attack. Kono is always allied with some ohter OPM - let Kono get occupied and attack hosokawa after it siege second target - occupy hosokawas part of shikoku and go for settsu with ship blocade (you pretty much lose all your sailors here but it is worthy). If you are lucky Kono is allied with OPM in Kyushu (most southern island) and you can easily landlock hosokawa armies here. Be cautious about sieging because your allies are very eager to seige too and they can take provinces from you - Settsu is really important. Btw if Kono is allied with two or more OPM's there is very good chance Hosokawa lose even without your intervention so in this case don't wait as I mentioned before and rush attack. In war with Amago it is Jackpot - you will almost always have free way to all hosokawas provinces - slow down game and take whatever you want. 3. Don't switch your religion before Ainu tries to ally you. It is very good diversion which help you to divert japanese forces and you almost every time can occupy Kyushu (primary target) or even Shikoku in war this war. 3. Sea war with Ashikaga - Ming is much more vulnerable here than mentioned in video. Be very carefull with you ships and try to catch small groups of ships. Once you kill about 10 galleys your naval dominance should be secured - Save your sailors as much as possible. 4. Land war Ashikaga has few options and strategies what you can use. Ming is pretty much coward and sometimes have serious issues with rebels/wars which can end up war too early and cause you to restart. Main objective in cases when almost whole japan is in war with you is landlocking at least half of Japan armies in Kyushu or Shikoku. This might be tricky but in about 75% cases (even without Ainu) there is chance to lock both straits simply because of neutral daimios blocking one or both of them. Shikoku island can be used for same strategy, but it requires spliting your ships and blocking 3 straits so I recommend it only when one or two straits are blocked by neutral daimios. If blocking japanese troops is impossible, just try to divert their forces by your army trying to landing on the opposite side of Japan. When landing army locks AI starts to relocate their troops there eager to destroy you. Simply run with your ships and let ming do the trick in Kyushu (target it for them). Repeat several times - Japanese will always hunt you. 5. No CB wars aren't necessary - resign to colonise fast and use your colonies just to border your enemies for short time when you just fabriciate claim and abandon colony (1. colony established should be in Philipines). 6. Even native supression is very tempting I recommend Native Coexistence Policy because it saves you many troubles - and more importantly manpower and gold. 7. Didn't tested yet but I use contribute to capital every time. Seems like fair thing for free developing capital and decreasing cost of annexation. 8. Nation ideas - really important thing to think about read some guides for it because I very struggle to keep my blobing nation happy and my economy growing. I revealed admin power is not so problematic in this tactics and administrative ideas are pretty much waste early on. First idea group should be exploration as mentioned in video for chance to spawn. I didn't tried another ideas because trying to spawn Colonialism is tooooo much tempting and this group is really helpful to force bordering nations mentioned above. Second and third ideas are essential and most important. As viable choice I see - Quantity and Humanist. In my games I pretty much struggle with three things: Manpower, Gold and Rebels. Quantity is absolute savior for wars to come and helps you fighting more offten. Rebels could really suck your gold and manpower too and so I recommend humanist too. I sometimes used another ideas and I should mention why I forsook them or ideas I think about. Religious - really helpful for religious war CB - but missionaries are expensive now and this idea mainly saves your monarch points which I realised as minor problem, confusingly enough. Influence - Really good idea group but you really struggle with diplo early on and this means you could not effectively fill them up fast enough. I recommend them as fourth group. Administrative - missionary cost is lowered less than needed and coring cost is not so viable option for this strategy. I almost every time overflow with admin points. Dont recommend this until 5th or 6th group for bonus with influence (another -20% diplo annex cost
@kuddman
@kuddman 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your suggestions Vladimir, I implemented some of them into my 'master plan'. I hope you don't mind that I hijack your comment to lay out some of my own ideas for the playthrough. Some things in there you already mentioned. It can really be frustrating because of the first war against Hosokawa plus Ming being a complete bitch. Stage one and two: Hosokawa is most likely to attack the one core states of Kono, Tsutsui, Amago, or Isshiki. The factor determining this for the most part is the quality of the alliances these states form but for my tries (must be more than 200 by now) they attacked Tsutsui roughly 50% of the times. Sometimes Hosokawa attacks without their allies, which makes the fight much easier. If Hosokawa declares war too early and eats up one of the states, it is still possible to wait for the next war that will most likely happen within the next one or two years. Also keep in mind that you only need a core neighboring Kyoto, it doesn't have to be Settsu (even though it is the best choise because of the Trade node). But I think the most efficient strategy is to restart. To me, one promising situation was when Tsutsui was allied to Amago. Hosokawa would declare on Tsutsui and siege down their fort and then would move on to Amago's level 3 capital fort. Because this would take ages, it leaves enough time to land on Hosokawa capital and siege it down (siege pips on the king would be advantageous, of course) and maybe even take some other provinces. A crucial part of this is your Navy because, by the time you are able to reach 100 relations or shortly after, most daimyos cancel military access because the Shogun is already pissed off at you. One strategy here might be to place the navy with troops on them in the Kii Channel before the enforce peace intervention and then declare when there is not much or no Hosokawa navy. Chances are their navy goes down almost instantly or doesn't attack in the first place which enables you to land your troops. If safe to do so, remember to blockade the capital with your navy while sieging While at war, you might want to arrange a royal marriage with Ming (to get a queen and potentially an heir) and start raising Ming's oppinion of you. Stage three: After taking Settsu, I think the best position to put your army and navy is in Mings territory. Keep the Galleys coming and keep your navy where Ming stations their main attack fleet (the one with heavy ships and galleys). Once the Shogun declares war on you, simply set the navy to full maintainence and attach it to Mings attack fleet. This way you can also keep track of the destruction of the enemy fleet easily. It is essential to help Ming kill the Shogun fleet because only when the fleet is decimated enough, Ming will land troops. Ming's fight and especially her taking of Kyoto still takes quite a bit of luck and can be a pain in the ass (Ming is a bitch). I have had it happen that Ming would take Kyoto but not transfer the province to me (even though she gave me all the other provinces). Might have been because of low Prestige. Don't embargo the Shogun. In a trade war you can still demand Kyoto but it would be a gamble to get enough Superiority with Ming loosing some of her stacks. The war will be easier if many daimyos are at war with each other when the Shogun declares war. Also, Ming not being at war and with high manpower is desirable. To ensure this, one could check the alliances forming around Ming in the beginning of the game so that Ming can eat them easily (especially Oirat alliances have been a pain for me). After 1450 and the Reformation, you can start investing into Settsu to spawn it. However, there is an event that fires quite often and gives -10% development cost in Settsu. You might want to wait for it to safe some mana. Stage four: After becoming Shogun, build as many troops as possible to raise the Vassals opinions asap. Also, even though the daimyos are pissed off at you, you can still enable divert trade for all of them which should net you around 6 to 10 ducats per month in trade in Nippon easily. Even if all of them are at 100%, they will not declare war because you still have Mings protection. What I try to do next is normally to no cb Yeren or Jianzhou on the mainland so that I can switch religion to Tengri and can build up cb against korea, haixiu (?), and Yeren/Jianzhou. Seize basically any opportunity you get when they fight each other to take out the weak. If you also opt for Tengri, it is useful to conquer some Hindu provinces to get heathens to be accepted, if you have the DLC cossacks, that is (maybe need to no cb in Indonesia/Malacca, or use colonists as Vladimir suggested). As for ideas, I like to go: Colonial, Administrative, Quantity, Offensive or Defensive (the admin/offensive idea for vassal income is huge until you get your trade up and running and even then quite a bit and Defensive/Humanist reduces war exhaustion), Humanist, Replace colonial with Trade or Influence, Influence/Trade Stage five: I'd say that the purpose of this stage is to prepare taking down Ming and to increase your trade income. Start colonizing Alaska and start building cb as soon as you can reach the first nations on the american west coast. Take them and then discover mexico. Meanwhile, try getting your foot down in Malaysia. It is very important to secure trade power in Malacca because it generates easily double of what Nippon does (and much more later). But as long as you are not at 60% to 80% trade power in the node, it won't be effective to change the home node (you will also need light ships to get trade power in Hangzhou). Also, try getting land (and cb) access to all of Mings tributiaries. If you can take most of them down you can drive mandate either into negative numbers or at least +- 0, so that it decreases as soon as ming cancels your tributiary status (which happens when your effective development is roughly 10 or 20% above Ming's). You can even grant land bordering Ming to your Daimyos to decrease mandate generation further. Note: sometimes Daimyos don't 'want the land' that you grant them. This only happens as long as you are Ming's tributiary. Afterwards you can feed them everything in coring range. As soon as you can cb states in Mexico, do so and try to pick one with many vassals. Then, don't realease the vassals in the peace deal but just fully annex the country you declared on - you will automatically get their vassals! As soon as you get the trader from colonial mexico (or any colonial nation) it is far more useful to feed/create new vassals instead of feeding the provinces to the colonial nation because colonies only give 50% of their trade power while your vassals will give you 100% (remember to check divert trade for all the new vassals regularly). After getting full control of Malacca and with enough light ships in Hangzhou, it will be rather easy to take down all the leftover tributaries and once Ming's mandate is at zero/very low, it should be easy to take her down, even with lower manpower. When you conquer Ming, remember to take the Hangzhou trade region provinces first so you can use the light ships elsewhere. Also, you can funnel all your trade power to beijing for one month to get Global Trade to spawn there (unless you are very unlucky and some other node has become huge).
@butatensei
@butatensei 5 жыл бұрын
After repeating the start 6+ times before it finally worked out, I have now nearly conquered the world with this strategy. I definitely agree with your tips for the early game. I've never seen Hosokawa declare on one of their rivals unless they border them, but usually they will go for Kono or Tsutsui because they are tiny. I also don't go for cogs but instead buy one infantry up to my force limit of 6, that way the 3 starting cogs can ferry them all across in exactly two trips and I can save up money for buying galleys while waiting for Ashikaga to declare (I can usually avoid Hosokawa's fleets without a naval battle). My opinion on idea groups is quite different though. Exploration of course comes first to spawn colonialism, and you're right that you have a lot of extra admin points after that. But that's why I take administrative second, because the earlier you get it the better. You will spend less to core the centres of trade that you're taking and the reduced interest and merc maintenance will help with your earlygame manpower troubles. After that I take humanist. It's a much-have just like administrative, because it reduces unrest so I won't need to raise autonomy anymore once absolutism hits. It's also better to get early since it reduces idea cost. After that I took influence next because when you have 100+ vassals it's crazy overpowered. The vassal force limit contribution helps a lot and the income from vassals actually becomes very significant. Income from vassals is nearly the size of my trade income now and more than double my income from taxes. Also why are you talking about integrating vassals? I've integrated a vassal twice this game, the first time was a big daimyo in Japan so that I could control my whole capital area and release two OPM daimyos instead, and the second time was just to get a bigger map font in Siberia. Integrating vassals just shrinks the swarm. No reason to ever do it. Next was my first millitary group, offensive, it's mostly essential for the siege ability but also gives a little force limit boost. The extra general pips I don't really care about yet since why make your own generals if your vassals almost always have a good one? I took defensive after for the army trad, reduced attrition and the policy with humanist for even less attrition. Helps with manpower a lot so you don't need quantity. Around that time I also dropped exploration since I had blocked of Russia and started three colonial nations and didn't need a colonist anymore. By the way I kept native suppression the whole game since it really helps with early-game growth and at higher tech you can just keep a single merc on every colony and it's fine (didn't want to lose a stab for switching native policy). But anyway I took diplomatic instead, because I had diplomats working around the clock to improve relations with small places that would accept an offer of vassalisation. As Shogun you can have +3 dip rep for 10 years so if you take influence and diplo ideas and take a dip rep advisor you can even diplo vassalise some HRE members despite still being Shinto and having your government rank stuck on kingdom. Also the reduced warscore cost helps a lot and diplomatic gives you policies for more available mercenaries and less merc maintenance. At this point I was hitting my merc cap so I went for that. After I destroyed Ming, taking the Beijing area for myself and releasing nearly everything else as small nations which I diplo-vassalised (only two or three actually spawned by rebellion because apparently getting Mingplosion to happen is really hard in MoH) no one has coalitioned me since. In fact ever since then I am counted as so big that I have no valid rivals. Which is great because then the big nations who would normally rival me and ally each other rivalled each other instead and I've been picking them off one by one, often even calling another great power into the war. So yeah it's definitely a solid strategy, very broken, probably should get patched... Best of luck with it though.
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
This strategy is confirmed on patch 1.27! I didn't see anything in the patch notes that clearly states that this technique is patched out as of 1.28+ so this guide is considered current until further update. Let me know if you enjoy the guide, this is a fun strategy and I hope you enjoy the easy world conquest!
@brokenbutler
@brokenbutler 5 жыл бұрын
the new capital-moving-restriction might complicate the whole capital moving thing somewhat
@justaskr.7750
@justaskr.7750 5 жыл бұрын
@@brokenbutler Shogun cannot move capital
@pancakeboy5018
@pancakeboy5018 5 жыл бұрын
AlzaboHD pp
@sultan_kazi
@sultan_kazi 5 жыл бұрын
Ming doesn’t transfer Kyoto to you if they siege it down.
@tayyabkhan2228
@tayyabkhan2228 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see the fun in playing a game where u have to restart. Then might as well use cheat codes
@matt_SurfaceOfTheSunPhx
@matt_SurfaceOfTheSunPhx 5 жыл бұрын
A couple of pointers for this strategy. Assign a merchant to Beijing as well as Nippon at the start. Also - Spend the diplo points to pick up an Admiral with maneuver points if you can. You will need the leader for your fleet to stand against Hoosokawa and their allies. Send the 2 barques w/admiral to Beijing for more funds. I have also had some success landing in Yamana territory if you can get mil access. If you land coming in from the top you can avoid the Hoosokawa fleets. I've pulled off the strategy and made Shogun, but couldn't stop my daimyo's from combining and struggled with keeping their liberty below 50%. I was also about 20-25 years too slow given the pace shown in the video. I do think adding a barque to the mix is a good idea too, but I also was too slow so maybe that was part of the reason. Regardless this is a terrific strategy and lots of fun to attempt. I've been playing EU-IV for 2500+ hours and videos like this keep me coming back. Great job!
@VenomousSpyro
@VenomousSpyro 5 жыл бұрын
Iron Man back up save scumming is the way forward.
@sleepingcity85
@sleepingcity85 4 жыл бұрын
So nice if they peace out at june 1st...
@thekasa02
@thekasa02 4 жыл бұрын
Working as of 2020
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the confirmation! Pinned for further visibility
@derdampflok
@derdampflok 4 жыл бұрын
Hosokawa keeps declaring their in the beginning of 1445 is that new after an update?
@nargaman261
@nargaman261 4 жыл бұрын
Same problem for me
@SebHaarfagre
@SebHaarfagre 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work anymore. Even though things are different I managed to take Settsu (Hosokawa goes balls to the walls on weak nations at the start of game, often several times; only outplaying the AI and luck will manage you the grab, as no AI armies will be able to help you) But the Ming will only land on that small island off Korea. They won't land in Japan proper, and the Shogun will have like 40k troops at his disposal... Ming only has 23ish transports. They will white peace out.
@RzezioYT
@RzezioYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@SebHaarfagre same happened to me :/
@monx94
@monx94 2 жыл бұрын
Playing this campaign rn, it works! Though with some changes, like in the comment below. Basically, AI won't attack 12-15k stacks, because each daimyo and Ashikaga think their forces (separately) are smaller, so you gotta take Settsu, and then maintain two stacks on Kyoto and Settsu (or release Hosokawa as a vassal, if you can, and enable scutage on them, so AI won't be able to occupy Settsu). Then, you have to wait for a while, until Ashikaga won't agree to cede Tokyo in a peace deal. It's a waiting game, do everything possible to stay afloat and don't go bankrupt until the peace deal. After the peace deal (assuming you didn't forget to pick independent daimyo reform), you can enable divert trade on all daimyos and collect trade, because half of them are disloyal anyway, and earn like 3 ducats a month and repay your debts quickly. You'll probably have to savescum for quite a bit, because you have to get Settsu asap, and AI may sometimes actually attack you. In any case, good luck!
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, glad to hear it still works. Goodluck in your campaign!
@monx94
@monx94 Жыл бұрын
@@AlzaboHD Oh hi, I've just noticed your reply. Yeah, it did work, even though my pc almost died in process because of the sheer amount of tags. Nevertheless, got the achievement
@solastorm7
@solastorm7 2 ай бұрын
still works in 2024! all dlcs, latest version. huge risk and 13 loans but worth it. became daimyo 1479 could have been sooner i think but i didnt want to risk it too early...
@bluemp8254
@bluemp8254 3 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone please read this if you are struggling with the start of your campaign! it seems that for some people the strategy of Alzabo doesn't work and for some it does. As of 1.30. It feels like Ashikaga is now less likely to attack you and even if they do there is still a good chance they will just sink Mings fleet and proceed to kill you. So I noticed something quirky. As I grew impatient with waiting for Ashikaga I just Yolo attacked them expecting they will just wipe me of the map but to my surprise, they never attacked my Army in Kyoto and as such I was able to slowly gain warscore and eventually peace them out. I have tested it 3 times so far and it worked every time so here is what you have to do: in the beginning, do the same as Alzabo describes with Hosokawa BUT only take settsu and no other province. Now save your Monarch points and wait for the renaissance. Once it appears, force it in Okinawa now you should be able to field about 8-9 troops according to your force limit. You want to have at the very least 10 troops stationed in settsu but I recommend using 12-14 just to be Safe. Then get a claim on Kyoto and initiate the war. Make sure Kyoto is empty and no daimyo is currently walking through your lands. Now simply March into Kyoto and just stand there. Since you are over your Force limit, you will incur a bunch of loans but it will all be worth it in the end. Eventually, the war score will be high enough to take Kyoto, don't forget to switch your government beforehand. I think the reason this works is that the AI doesn't consider the troops of their vassals as their own so it thinks that it is outnumbered and thus it will not initiate a battle. It can also happen that they will come for Okinawa and try to land you should definitely avoid that keep your fleet up and build some galleys if they start to land engage them damage their ships a little and then immediately retreat back into the port of Okinawa. The ai will then cancel their landing and instead repair their fleet. I hope this works for you and have a nice day
@j.o.d4915
@j.o.d4915 3 жыл бұрын
i don''t think this works anymore. even when u take kyoto, you have -53 warscore. are you supposed to build a fort on settsu because they take that no matter what.
@Madafaka2343
@Madafaka2343 3 жыл бұрын
I will test this out in the next couple of days, does rolling back to 1.28 help at all? I'm sad that i missed this train 2 years ago...
@osiris3676
@osiris3676 3 жыл бұрын
thank you alzabohd i did my first wc with ryukyu with this strategy a couple of years back. Forgot to say thank you so here i am, love your content man
@classifiedforlife.1466
@classifiedforlife.1466 5 жыл бұрын
I am definitely going to try this, Alzabo. Really looking forward to it as I love EU4, will let you know when I upload how it went!
@Myrkur123
@Myrkur123 5 жыл бұрын
Works like a charm on 1.28.3. Just got my The Three Mountains. Had to savescum couple of times in the beginning with the Ashikaga, but later on it's just fine. Congrats on a fine idea!
@henkpietjaaphein1122
@henkpietjaaphein1122 2 жыл бұрын
Playing on 1.31: Since Ashikaga never attacked me, I did something similar to BlueMP's comment from a few months ago. After taking Settsu just like in the video, fabricate a claim on Kyoto. When you get a claim, make sure you have a decent navy (i had 2 trade ships, 5 galleys, 5 transports) and go over force limit (I got 13k), move all troops onto Settsu. Release all your provinces in Japan as vassals ( I released Hosokawa) and enable scutage. Move your navy out of port into Ryukyu Islands sea. DoW Ashikaga and march into Kyoto when it is empty. If your forces and navy are large enough they will not attack you anywhere and it is a matter of waiting. After a few years, you can peace out just like in the video, got it in 1455. Dont forget to switch government type before peacing out :) Hope this helps!
@besirkaplan6170
@besirkaplan6170 2 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot ! i will try this soon
@adouhoiad
@adouhoiad 5 жыл бұрын
4:29 making this replay button cause i love how you say "while you're waiting for ashikaga to declare war o you"
@itsonlyhersh
@itsonlyhersh 4 жыл бұрын
HEAVY rng based start. The first war isn't too bad. I won several times without a single battle. But the war with Ashikaga is brutal. I would say more than half of the time ming gets their transport fleet caught out early and that is an immediate restart. When you DO get lucky enough to get naval dominance, idk what was going on in the video but I consistently get declared on by a unified Japan. Ming will glacially transfer over stacks of 15 and get wiped. In my best attempt Ming got a total of 50k troops onto Japan, totally ignored the provinces i set them to focus on in favor of sieging totally worthless coastal forts, and eventually were stack wiped by the 70k Japanese death stacks. I imagine that once you are Shogun, the swarm is disgusting and I would like to try it but getting past the first war is way too frustrating. Even more so since the war would be a complete cake walk if the player had control of Ming's armies. Just AI stupidity holding you back.
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using backups? I had to use several ironman local saves to make the attempt easier. Took about 7 tries iirc - dont give up!
@itsonlyhersh
@itsonlyhersh 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlzaboHD I gave it another shot this morning, trying to ally Korea. That never happened but I did ally Ainu who bravely sacrificed their land and were full annexed in my defense... Ming and I were able to win the war, so i am the Shogun now. I think it's mostly a roll of the dice to see how many daimyos are at war when Ashikaga attacks. Also, ming doesn't transfer occupation of Kyoto. I was extremely lucky and ashikaga seiged it back and let me get it for myself. Anyways I thought it worth mentioning that in September 1457 I just had an event that changed my state religion to Shinto. Saves me the time and effort of spawning rebels
@arekkusu888
@arekkusu888 5 жыл бұрын
The hardest part is obviously the correct pronunciation of "Ryukyu" :p
@marcarmentia2229
@marcarmentia2229 3 жыл бұрын
We are currently on patch 1.30.2 and the strategy still works. I just managed to become shogun in 1463. Thanks a lot for the guide ! :D
@szymonrozanski6938
@szymonrozanski6938 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. You are literally the only one that i ever seen say the DLC required for the Guide to work properly. Many think that everyone has all the DLC or ignore the fact that many do not. So they go with their merry way explaining a useless guide to most people as 80% of things they do require DLC.
@theWebWizrd
@theWebWizrd 5 жыл бұрын
While trying for this strategy I accidentally chanced upon another path to become the shogun! The insane thing is that *it doesn't even involve Ming*. It's incredibly lucky, I think, probably way less likely to happen than the one in this video, but this is how I became shogun in my current run: There was a very early independence rebellion against Ashikaga, around 1448. During this rebellion, I could declare a no cb war on Hoosikawa with them having no allies. During my war with Hoosikawa, he lost his independence war, so Ashikaga was reasserted as the overlord, and thus pulled into the war - without any other vassals or allies! Due to the independence war they were both not at full power, and my 5k troops were able to quickly siege Kyoto and full annex Ashikaga, becoming shogun. Thanks for the content!
@trey1619
@trey1619 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on eu4! I just started playing 3 months ago!
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
I hope that the guide helps!
@trey1619
@trey1619 5 жыл бұрын
AlzaboHD Thanks it did
@homero221
@homero221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. I will use it for my first WC
@tarthaliondor
@tarthaliondor 5 жыл бұрын
I'm playing on the 1.28 spain patch and this guide really helped me a lot, it took me a few restarts to get it to work and due to the specifics of my attempt (who the ai attacked and where their troops were etc) i ended up having to take a ton of loans and merc up a bit to make it work but got there in the end, my twitch chat were keen to know where i got the strat from so i referred them to your vid as well
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that it works in 1.28! Good luck on your campaign
@tomvincent8472
@tomvincent8472 3 жыл бұрын
Working as of 1.30.6 (Austria patch). Thanks Alzabo! War with Ashikaga was super tough, Ming is not good at landing troops efficiently. When they do, they dont seem to want to siege the capital. I had to land my troops along with Mings and tried to get them to attach to mine in order to get them to actually do something useful!
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear it still works, good luck on your campaign Tom! It becomes a bit of a slog but it's great fun once the horde is unleashed
@rammbadedu1215
@rammbadedu1215 5 жыл бұрын
Looks beautiful!
@ZumbaMarx
@ZumbaMarx 5 жыл бұрын
This is a really good vid. Thanks!
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it useful! Thanks for watching.
@danielguveiyian
@danielguveiyian 5 жыл бұрын
I swear you sound just like Reman's Paradox
@rizkyardan5760
@rizkyardan5760 5 жыл бұрын
I miss him :(
@stefanvladov2929
@stefanvladov2929 5 жыл бұрын
Ardan we all miss him
@benhermes6566
@benhermes6566 5 жыл бұрын
What happened to him?
@Quintaner
@Quintaner 5 жыл бұрын
Reman, at least last time I checked, appears to be fine and well, but seems to have just stepped away from making videos
@denzinkalsang
@denzinkalsang 4 жыл бұрын
well. After a few days of tries, I can confirm this strategy is still valid on patch 1.28.30. though it took me more than ten times of restarts. For a lot of times, Ming is just either don't bother landing their troop on Japanese territory, or they just send very little soldiers to be wiped out by the Daimyos. To add on what Alazbo has said, you may consider restarting if Ming is fighting another war (especially against Chihgatai, who's allying Nogai and Kazan) before Ashikaga declares war upon you, otherwise their troops will be dragged in the vast land of central Asia and take forever to come to your front line with high war exhaustion. Also, if almost all Daimyos are participating in the war, you may also consider restart until you get lucky to have less than 40k enemy to deal with. Navy dominance is also vital to you victory, stay close to ming's fleets and be cautious to take combat on your own. Plus I find alliance with Ainu can be helpful as they can attract most of the Daimyos to siege their land thus buy you some time for Mings and your troop to land on Setsu and Kyoto.
@boomdos4265
@boomdos4265 5 жыл бұрын
When i was living in Okinawa...I bought a PC Gamer magazine that had a demo CD of Europa Universalis 3. Imagine my shock when I noticed you could play as Okinawa. So my first foray into EU was the Ryukyu Kingdom. My first game when i bought EU4 was also the Ryukyu, without knowing the mechanics. Needless to say, it was a very dull game.
@montivdg
@montivdg 3 жыл бұрын
On Emperor 1.30 Ashikaga doesn't seem to attack. Anyone else experiencing this?
@waffins
@waffins 5 жыл бұрын
The best part is when Ming views Kyoto as vital interest and doesn't give you the occupation
@matt_SurfaceOfTheSunPhx
@matt_SurfaceOfTheSunPhx 3 жыл бұрын
you have to make sure you have a unit start the seige before Ming joins and you will be ok....maybe
@emil3657
@emil3657 5 жыл бұрын
i feel like youre the fusion of all the different guide channels
@migamaos3953
@migamaos3953 5 жыл бұрын
Damn your videos are so good for a relatively small account, gj bro
@Adrivan
@Adrivan 3 жыл бұрын
Tried this in patch 1.30.3.... I have no problem with conquering Hosokawa, however no matter what I do, Ashikaga won't declare war on me. I tried several times. Ashikaga had -200 relations, I had no allies and I even disbanded my army. He never attacked me. i waited at least 20-30 years in all my attempts.
@xilenced6655
@xilenced6655 3 жыл бұрын
me2 ...
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 Жыл бұрын
Same for 1.33
@Adrivan
@Adrivan Жыл бұрын
@@Rullino32 For you and anyone reading this in 2022... I managed in the end to become Shogun and conquer the world with Ryukyu, but you have to attack Ashikaga yourself. Stay Ming tributary and expand in Japan with enforce peace, wait for ashikaga to become weaker (at some point he will have very few subjects left) and take the capital. You don't need MIng, but it takes longer
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 Жыл бұрын
@@Adrivan Thanks for the information, I waited for 20-30 and Ashikaga did nothing to me, I had to restart and I can barely take Settsu for myself, I considered the option you mentioned before, I'll try it. I tought i had to spam mercenaries but I had too little troops and I sent my armies back to Okinawa like AlzaboHD said, now I'll try to expand by taking parts of South/Central Japan with this strategy.
@jacklander9584
@jacklander9584 5 жыл бұрын
This is a really fun strategy when it works but just to reemphasize from the video it is REALLY finnicky. Hope Hosokawa doesn't declare too early but not too late either. Hope your navy can reach Japan and even land troops at all. (because Hosokawa often has a LOT of galleys). Hope you can get on Settsu before a war ally does. Hope your ally doesn't peace out before you can... and that's all for just the first part. Make lots of backup saves. As a weird anecdote, on one of my restarts none of the Daimyos rivaled each other and one month into the game Hosokawa and his allies immediately declared an Independence War on Ashikaga. That was odd.
@Platypus_Explains
@Platypus_Explains 5 жыл бұрын
I actually experienced the same thing, with some of the daimyos declaring on Ashikaga one month into the game. it seamed very weird
@caeao3126
@caeao3126 5 жыл бұрын
Yay~ Finally. Thanks for the guide, been waiting for this. P.S. my Mughal campaign ended badly for me. It exploded and I wasn't able to recover.
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you find the guide useful! Also RIP mughals, who did you start the campaign as?
@caeao3126
@caeao3126 5 жыл бұрын
@@AlzaboHD It was Afghanistan. It exploded before I completely conquered that cursed yellow Vijayanagar. 😡 BTW, I tried your guide. It's easier said than done! I'm currently in my 10th+ try since a certain Hosokawa just don't want to declare war on anyone in 10years. Heck, I twice even waited 15 and 20 years and they still didn't declare war. 🤬 The RNG gods are not smiling at me right now. 😢
@Drachendaemon1
@Drachendaemon1 5 жыл бұрын
I surrender (for today) after 5 unsucessefull attempts. I got Settsu 4 times out of 5, cored the province and spawned rennessaince. But Ashikawa always waits untill no Daimyos are at war, declares with 60-70k on me and conquers the province while Ming fights some horde peasants in the west and uses his 80k-100k to stack attrition in the 2 provinces they siege. Not a single time even a single 1k stack of Ming soliders transported over. Also, they wont use my transport ships nor do they join my fleet to destroy the enemies fleet. After 5-10 years of not participating but fighting the hordes, they white peace and leve me utterly destroyed and disapointed. Edit: I managed to get the Lux Stella Event in 1448 and was able to expand into the spice islands. Even with 60AE, the Shogun didnt attack me untill i canceled beeing a tributary and allied Ming, hoping they wouldnt support me in a defensive war. I was able to get Kyoto by December of 1502 and after 2-3 Restarts even managed to spawn Colonialism in Settsu. 3/10 for now, maybe i can get the shogunate by the new year.
@VenomousSpyro
@VenomousSpyro 5 жыл бұрын
You can save scum by saving the iron man files. Highly recommend for this achievement.
@midnightfox6378
@midnightfox6378 5 жыл бұрын
Florry tried to do this. He got quite far. Took half world in 12 hours
@Zoxan96
@Zoxan96 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, where can I watch it?
@xasanth4278
@xasanth4278 5 жыл бұрын
would love to see a full gameplay
@threaruscamuwundra7417
@threaruscamuwundra7417 5 жыл бұрын
Indonesian pirates was a draggy campaign. So wish me luck for this one then
@MrHRTCHU
@MrHRTCHU 5 жыл бұрын
Going to try this before it's patched
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck! I hope this guide helps you. Let me know how it goes for you - I'm hoping it still works for 1.28.
@rokassadauskas8328
@rokassadauskas8328 5 жыл бұрын
Why would it be patched?
@_theFeltes
@_theFeltes 5 жыл бұрын
​@@rokassadauskas8328 because you shouldn't be able to enable reforms that switch government types during war. This allowed the "Republic of Milan as PU enhancing my king every 3 years" that was posted on r/eu4/ posted yeasterday, and this just isn't working as it should. www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/a5v7my/puing_milan_is_the_best_thing_i_ever_did/
@greengrasshopper3235
@greengrasshopper3235 5 жыл бұрын
Just revert to previous version if it does, doesnt stop you from getting the achievment
@CreepyPandaGaming
@CreepyPandaGaming 4 жыл бұрын
anyone having issues - hosokawa is declaring war on an OPM within 4 months of starting, before I can get good relations with them.
@TheTutore
@TheTutore 5 жыл бұрын
I just spent the last 5 hours trying this strat and good lord is it frustrating. While clearly incredibly overpowered getting to the point where you control Japan is so incredibly luck based. First you need Hosokawa to attack someone not too strong but not too weak either, you can't realistically beat them in a fight unless you get an insane general and even then its a tossup, I lost with a 2 fire 4 shock general in a defensive battle over a strait against them so if im doing something wrong I have no idea what it is. If you manage to get their capital that's great, now you actually get to start. If Ming is having rebel problems or decided to fight one of the hordes when you finally get war declared that's a big fat loss since they waste so much time the Shogun and crew stack up 50-60k and can smash Mings smaller stacks as they land, and all that still requires them to even bother landing as they take slow to get going they might just white peace out. I even got the perfect storm, we destroyed their fleets, about half of japan wasnt called into the war due to bad timing from the AI, and they had no rebels/other wars. With this naval superiority and me directing ming where to siege what did they do? They put 30k on my island then white peaced. Is there some kind of way to make the AI do anything half useful cause the Ming AI really seems to like screwing me? I have all the dlc save for Cradle of Civilization, I cant see how not having that is making it so braindead.
@Barasingha
@Barasingha 5 жыл бұрын
I am having the same problems, can't get Ming to help me in any useful way after Japanese fleets are destroyed. :( It is getting kind of boring, it must my 20th run by now...
@kingKapuzina
@kingKapuzina 5 жыл бұрын
@@Barasingha I mean you can still try to do it the normal way. Ignore japan, expand into Phillipines and Indonesia,conquer India and then the world. You should still try to spawn colonialism to keep ur expansion stady. While this strat is not as luck based as the other, the lategame will be hell as you will play more or less speed2 with a lot of pause
@micha45399
@micha45399 4 жыл бұрын
Daimyo government and religion gives 20 morale together
@leifkjnny5424
@leifkjnny5424 Жыл бұрын
Playing on 1.34, Ashikaga is extremely unlikely to ever declare a war against you while you are still protected by Ming, so you have to get strong enough to beat them by yourself. However, you can use the Enforce Peace trick several times to grab more land in Japan. And the more aggressive AI in the current patch means the daimyos eat each other faster, so you will soon enough end up with a smaller number of larger daimyos, which will be disloyal and won't help Ashikaga when you do attack. I was able to take Kyoto by 1468. (Conversely, the daimyos eating each other faster also means someone is likely to blob enough and form Japan, which seems to happen much earlier in most games now. So don't dawdle.)
@Nexsyana
@Nexsyana 5 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I find you voice very soothing and hot good guide btw
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@unwissest
@unwissest 3 жыл бұрын
Ashikaga never declares war on me in ever try i do
@sultan_kazi
@sultan_kazi 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if it works in current patch. Attempt 1: full annexed Hosukawa and Ashikaga never attacked Attempt 2-8: Ming’s navy always got destroyed Attempt 9 and 10: Ming sieges down Kyoto but occupies it for himself!
@askkedladd
@askkedladd 5 жыл бұрын
Certain achievements require many retry because many different things can happen in this game.
@theWebWizrd
@theWebWizrd 5 жыл бұрын
Had exactly the same distribution of outcomes myself after many restarts.
@youneskasdi
@youneskasdi 5 жыл бұрын
It's much harder than you made it look like i had to restart too many times just to get good relation with the right daimyo to enforce peace war and had to even restart more to actually beat him and i can't even begin to explain the suffering i had with ming naval's invasion they had superior navy and even more manpower than ming it was a miracle that i somehow was lucky enough to take kyoto before they stack wiped me i immediately peaced them for kyoto since i had a decent warscore just enough to take it i couldn't even take extra money in the peace deal that's how lucky i was
@SunsetInStone
@SunsetInStone 4 жыл бұрын
Still better than a normal wc as Ryuku.
@Floatinator
@Floatinator 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance of updating this guide for 2020 hosokawa keeps declaring war immediately and the one time out of 20 attempts I got the province and ashikaga declared on me Ming was boarding on useless they kept deploying 6k stacks on random parts of japan and losing them and then they just placed out after losing 30000 troops on failed sieges
@ba53lin3
@ba53lin3 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm this is working in 1.32.2. I did several tries occupying all land from Hosokawa, but Ashikaga did not want to attack me afterwards, sitting at -200. So I decided to do a run where I take only Settsu to apply what others here recommended. But this time Ashikaga almost immediately declared upon me, my troops were still celebrating the win in Settsu ;) and I didnt even have lowered army maintenance cause they were still recovering. But war was really expensive. With my initial stack being wiped and Ming AI being super stupid I went way over limit to a 18k stack to work my own way into Kyoto which resulted in becoming bankrupt. Got Shogun in 1457 tho. But by the time things were up and running again two vassals got relatively large and disloyal. Lost a lot of time dealing with them, dont think I can do Kamchadka and discover Kanada in time for Col spawn. Phillipines should be doable until 1500 tho.
@jaap6479
@jaap6479 5 жыл бұрын
If ming is too derpy to win the war you can also ally korea before ashikaga starts the war, it worked with me and it made the war very easy
@threaruscamuwundra7417
@threaruscamuwundra7417 5 жыл бұрын
So I've did a beginning with this strategy and I found 2 extra notes which could be helpful in the earliest stages of this run. 1. It seems that in all my 4 testruns Hosokawa always went for Kono even though it never rivaled it. So my advice is to keep relations up with this guy mostly. 2. When you take provinces from Hosokawa DON'T increase autonomy, because it makes your progress for your next government reform much slower and thus makes you becoming a Daimyo some 10 years later which will be too late when the shogun attacks you.
@antares7382
@antares7382 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like Ming will not transfer the occupation of Kyoto to the player, even if it's marked as vital interest (or at least it happened to me), so be sure to move your army there first so the siege is led by you. Otherwise you won't be able to take it in the war. Edit: Also, if you want to convert to Shinto, you can just annex the daimyo holding Ise. As long as you're in pagan religion group (which animism is), this will trigger an event that allows you to convert without breaking to rebels. Holding Ise also grants minor bonuses.
@sbrevoltuion5
@sbrevoltuion5 3 жыл бұрын
Update: It seems like the easiest way is to work with amago, as hosokawa focuses on their capital and leaves settsu open. I also advise 6 regiments of men, not 5.
@Azieloki
@Azieloki 5 жыл бұрын
You can also build up a power base and come back for Kyoto later. As long as Japan hasn't formed you can still take the Shogunate. I did this strategy a few weeks ago and it works really well. It takes a little bit longer, but is super reliable and doesn't require any no-CBs. The only problem that I had was that once I had all of Asia and Africa under me as Daimyo my computer would crash every 30 minutes or so. I only have about half of Europe left to conquer at 1730, so I'll probably go back and finish the campaign eventually. The slowdown cannot be understated though. Playing late-game on what is essentially slower than speed 1 is absolute cancer. It's really the only reason I have picked the campaign back up. One great thing to note about this strategy that I didn't hear mentioned is that you aren't really locked into any particular idea set. You can really take any combo and it won't impact your ability to get the achievement in any meaningful way. I even stayed animist without any difficulty. The Shogunate is super OP.
@phe123
@phe123 5 жыл бұрын
I have a lag question. I got a really good computer but late game i get freeze lag every 2-3 seconds no matter what. Same for you?
@DIY_Miracle
@DIY_Miracle 5 жыл бұрын
Are daimyo vassals liberty desire affected by total vassal forces or their own forces?
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
Only their own forces, which is great. You can have hundreds of them without problem.
@masyasse8610
@masyasse8610 5 жыл бұрын
I will try it in my next play Thanks btw
@wesleyh7945
@wesleyh7945 Жыл бұрын
I've tried this a bunch on 1.33. Taking land in japan, ideally settsu from hosokawa, is doable. However ashikaga will never declare on you while you are tributary. If you want to become shogun anyway, you will have to take it offensively. Taking land in japan is probably still good to do before you build your power base in phillipines/manchuria/malaya. Edit: If you can get a decent powerbase going and maximally improve relations with ming, you should be able to ally them even without the flip to friendly. By 1500 you might be able to call them in offensively. Just in time to get shogun before they collapse.
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 Жыл бұрын
You can enforce peace on other Daimyos to expand, it worked for me and Managed to fund the war thru Knowledge sharing to China.
@kleinnicolas7521
@kleinnicolas7521 4 жыл бұрын
Found a bug during this tactic, still works tho. If you claim kyoto while some of the daimyos try to gain independance. You will lose every daimyo that is on the side of the ashigaka (which is ironic) when taking kyoto. (and you need to vassalize ashikaga, or even the ones who are revolting will get their independance for free) Which made me Shogun of only 10 states and all the others went to form a coalition against me :D
@picobacsi
@picobacsi 4 жыл бұрын
hi! great guide, thanks for sharing! i'm playing on 1.28, so it is harder. i did manage to become ruler of the daimyos. but i cant assign provinces to trade companies on the same continent as my capital. only Japan tag can convert to christianism via shinto events. i did not tried but capital moving is trickier now. also my vassals are mostly useless, they are just wandering aimlessly in enemy territory, being slaughtered one by one. and if they are at war with each other they wont even bother to come. which behaviour did you use? and which ideas would you recommend?
@bigboyfc5
@bigboyfc5 5 жыл бұрын
I’m at about 1600 in my game using this strategy right now and it has worked spectacularly so far. You mentioned converting to Christianity to get pu’s but looking at the wiki files the only way to convert to Christianity through the incidents is as the Japan tag. Are there other ways to do it that I haven’t seen or would I have to convert through rebels?
@Yui_187
@Yui_187 5 жыл бұрын
Now I understand what Sui king was talking about
@BigPictureYT
@BigPictureYT 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@GoInDryPulloutWet
@GoInDryPulloutWet 3 жыл бұрын
This works as of the 1.30.4. Ashikaga wont usually wont declare war unless you delete your army and dont ally ainu. Or if ming is occupied in another war (usually Oirat.)
@aqui1ifer
@aqui1ifer 5 жыл бұрын
@AlazboHD if you really want to get those mods updated; use the 1.28.2 beta patch to update, I used it to update my main mod.
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you very much for the heads up! I've heard people were downgrading to 1.27 to update 1.28 mods but your technique will be much better. I appreciate it and will get the exodus mods up later this weekend!
@tomzaatar3532
@tomzaatar3532 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@puppum3035
@puppum3035 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the point of the transfer subject splendor since you can’t fabricate next to or use subject’s cb? It looks like in one of the clips he attacks Korea first but still has positive stab. How did he get a claim? I don’t want to waste the 3 dip rep to annex a vassal or lose the stability required to no cb?
@SCTigorius
@SCTigorius 3 жыл бұрын
I tried it, but Ashikaga won't declare war on me after I conquer Hosokawa. Will be trying to get this achievement another way.
@henrypowell5522
@henrypowell5522 3 жыл бұрын
1468 still no war declared at - 170 relation
@Infected_Apple
@Infected_Apple 5 жыл бұрын
I've tried several times now, getting Setsu every time, but Ming doesn't ever seem to land troops they do occasionally stack 60k on Okinawa. I've set wargoals on Japan for them but they never seem to respond. Any suggestions?
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
This happened to me several times. I got lucky and they eventually landed them. It might take a few tries, I suggest making a backup save file once Ashikaga declares war on you.
@Infected_Apple
@Infected_Apple 5 жыл бұрын
@@AlzaboHD Restarted today after a long pause as it didn't seem to work after many tries, first attempt everything works out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Now to continue this lucky streak and thanks for making the guide.
@rizaadont
@rizaadont Жыл бұрын
Can i ask what mod are you using to make your map to look like this?
@dabkolay
@dabkolay 5 жыл бұрын
Nice guide, but I have one question. Should I annex the vassals or not, since the relation penalty of annexed vassal. Ty
@drakan4769
@drakan4769 5 жыл бұрын
question: is there any particular reason to wait until the war with ashikaga to change government to daimyo?
@HexAF8B9
@HexAF8B9 3 жыл бұрын
You can also convert per Event to Shinto if you conquer the Province of Ise.
@xilenced6655
@xilenced6655 3 жыл бұрын
thanks !
@albertblanco1902
@albertblanco1902 4 жыл бұрын
Hello everybody! This guide is extremely helpful and after not so many resets I've won a war against Hosokawa and I'm now in war against Ashikaga. This second war starts in april 12th, 1456. I have some questions: First of all, is this war against Ashikaga starting too late? I saw many people starts this wat in early 1450's. Second; is there any way to push Ming to conquest my japan provinces and Kyoto despite of the west island of the japanses archipielago? I would like to finish the war quickly to avoid being more late. Third; is there any way to push Ming to help me blockating most of the japanese troops in Ainu's territory? I usually use my ships to block them once we have naval dominance, but the war takes long enough to get rid because the daimyos create far more ships. Thank you all of you!
@tyraabel9703
@tyraabel9703 5 жыл бұрын
how do you get ashikaga to attak you ?? i pirate, embargo, even with insult (just to try) they never attak me. is this still working or is it fixed ?
@SunsetInStone
@SunsetInStone 4 жыл бұрын
Late but if you just want to do it for the fun of it, then you could always play in normal & tag switch to make them attack you after you've done everything you should have to, to make them attack you. If you want the achievement, then idrk.
@davidator9000
@davidator9000 5 жыл бұрын
Which level of Isolationism is the best? Great guide btw.
@user-rr3dv5eg5i
@user-rr3dv5eg5i 4 жыл бұрын
1st IMO for idea cost
@Mozin18
@Mozin18 5 жыл бұрын
have had some issues With ming not transfering over the occupation of kyoto, other than that it Works.
@Fiskefette
@Fiskefette 5 жыл бұрын
Im struggeling to get claim and casus bellis. Ive noticed my vassals (Daymios) got claim, but I cant press them. How do I overcome this?
@keglez4924
@keglez4924 5 жыл бұрын
I tried it several times but Ming always stacks like 30k troops with a god tier general (best so far being 4/6/3/3) on my home island of Ryukyu. They will stay there for years until Ming runs out of manpower because of attrition, which then makes them delete the troops on Ryukyu just to buy mercs on the mainland. I have tried doing the war on a backup 3 times and i do not want to restart becayuse lucky me got a 6/5/6 ruler. What should i try in your opinion? (telling them to siege certain stuff does not work)
@IronBaneling
@IronBaneling 2 жыл бұрын
Im having issues with the ashikaga war step, I have followed the guide through to that step multiple times but I cant seem to get Ashikaga to declare war on me, Do you have any extra ideas to help?
@champnotchicken4318
@champnotchicken4318 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have to take the province from Hosokowa or can you take another province.
@Drachendaemon1
@Drachendaemon1 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can make a video for the first come first serve and the ideas guys achivements? I`ve been trying to do the 2 for ages but couldnt firgure out the best (or any working) strategy yet.
@tip0019
@tip0019 5 жыл бұрын
its easy. you can get all achievo's with 50 point Norse start. Just border mayans and get EAST AFRICAN tech. This enables you to start with feudalism. You will be set to win. Ideas are not that important, success
@drakan4769
@drakan4769 5 жыл бұрын
Manchu culture + siberian frontier, add some combination of government/ideas to get 100% cav ratio. Full frontline of cavalry with unlimited manpower
@tip0019
@tip0019 5 жыл бұрын
@@drakan4769 totally unnecessary and it will make you unable to take all achievements in one go
@rasmusbrix401
@rasmusbrix401 5 жыл бұрын
After gaining a foothold in the Philippines and after the first Korean war, I can't seem to get a economy flowing, and I find myself sailing troops around to fight rebels most of the time, any hints?
@dingdongpo
@dingdongpo 5 жыл бұрын
I found it reasonably easy to get the Shogunate, but my entire gameplan falls apart after that. How do you go about expanding in a quick and meaningful way as Ryukyu + a bunch of disloyal daiymos? I still don't have many provinces, low manpower, and have to carry the wars solo. A war with Korea for example would be suicide unless I take a bunch of loans, but how many loans should I be taking? How exactly do you judge how far you should take expansion before it becomes to costly or risky? I don't have too many hours in EU4, and often play it safe since I don't have complete understanding of the more advanced mechanics, but I thought a WC would be fun to try since I've done other difficult runs. It is indeed rather fun but I still feel lost before I really get the ball rolling. Any advice?
@Petey5
@Petey5 4 жыл бұрын
Trying it now, Hosokawa declares war and wins before I can even get the relations high enough to enforce peace (including sending gift). They declare war as early as April 1445.
@Petey5
@Petey5 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dalimyr I tried doing that but they won their second war before I even got max relations with the target
@Arnoldisbored
@Arnoldisbored 5 жыл бұрын
I have no clue how you beat the navy. For me Ming has just 28 transports and the Ashikaga swam gangs up with 50 ships anywhere we engage.
@Kitsune199
@Kitsune199 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need to do this on easy or below, since I can't get the first step (Enforce Peace) working on Normal or has it been patched out? . Version 1.32.1.0
@DSP12378
@DSP12378 5 жыл бұрын
I suppose there is no written down version of this somewhere?
@1001airstrikes
@1001airstrikes 4 жыл бұрын
Tried this now as of the Manchu update, and Ming never did anything to help me in the war. They just sat there and never deployed their fleets. Any ideas as what to do?
@vanadain15
@vanadain15 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying since yesterday and have a big problem :/ Ming AI is dumb as hell. When Kyoto attacks me all Daymyos join the war and Japan has alltogether over 60 000 army and a lot of ships. Ming keep letting them wipe out their fleets or only transports like 20-30 k soldiers to Japan and moves them randomly with stacks of 7-8 (I don't think I need to explain how easily they get wiped). At the end ming ends up with no army and no fleet and just signs a peace treaty with Japan :/
@cameronmembrey6209
@cameronmembrey6209 5 жыл бұрын
vanadain15 try to land troops same place as Ming and use attach friendly units option so you can control where troops go
@boulbaggies1465
@boulbaggies1465 5 жыл бұрын
And use your navy, the japanese navies are weak before they blob up
@classifiedforlife.1466
@classifiedforlife.1466 5 жыл бұрын
Also @Alzabo, before I start...did you use the new Golden Century DLC for this, or no?
@classifiedforlife.1466
@classifiedforlife.1466 5 жыл бұрын
Well, sort of a nvm. I looked into it more, and it looks like an immersion pack, not really a dlc. Thanks anyway!
@AlzaboHD
@AlzaboHD 5 жыл бұрын
This was mainly with 1.27 but it should work in 1.28 without issue! I didn't see anything in the patch notes that explicitly patched this strategy.
@classifiedforlife.1466
@classifiedforlife.1466 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, cool. Sounds good.
@gregmccauley1687
@gregmccauley1687 5 жыл бұрын
@@classifiedforlife.1466 the main nerf from GC is capital movement. You used to be able to move your capital to Oceania as Ryukyu (or the new world) and TC everything in Asia for lots of ducats. It's a lot harder to do now as you need equal dev where you plan to move your capital. It has no effect on this daimyo strat though.
@classifiedforlife.1466
@classifiedforlife.1466 5 жыл бұрын
Ah! Good to know, thanks!
@kotasimov460
@kotasimov460 Жыл бұрын
1.35 i won solo vs japan just prepare 300-600 gold, sell titles etc. wait until vasals eat each other and weakend. About 1465 should be enough. Then recruit 15-20k of army and stand still on kyoto, just wait for ticking war score. AI will propably not engage you, this strategy still works.
@oggeman1606
@oggeman1606 4 жыл бұрын
How much land are you supposed to take for yourself and how much do you give to vassals?
@rokassadauskas8328
@rokassadauskas8328 5 жыл бұрын
I have some questions, so maybe you have a discord? Coz itll be faster that way
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