EU4 - What if BOTH ROMAN EMPIRES Existed in 1444?

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The Red Hawk

The Red Hawk

2 жыл бұрын

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In this video titled EU4 - What if BOTH ROMAN EMPIRES Existed in 1444? we take a look at what would happen if Both Roman Empires existed in 1444 / what if The Roman Empire and Byzantium existed at the start of EU4. In this video I created both the West and East Roman Empires i.e. The Roman Empire and Byzantium at the time of Roman Emperor Theodosius I when the empire was split for a final time. As you can probably guess this scenario resulted in some pretty funny shenanigans. Obviously you would expect that The Roman Empires would dominate, but did it really turn out that way? This whole run was controlled by the AI only without my interference and it yielded some pretty interesting results to be honest. So, after watching this video you will know what would happen if Both Roman Empires existed in 1444. What is the next "What if" scenario that I should do? Leave a comment below! The save file is available for all Tier 1 and above KZfaq members in the save-games Discord channel.
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@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
What is the next "What if" scenario that you would like for me to explore? Leave a comment here and join The Discord to chat with me and get the save-game if you're a KZfaq Member: discord.gg/ksDjjUhKHd Check out more "What if" videos here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLsO8A6cTBgguUFeefokWu22yzjvM8VtDD
@samarthmisra6064
@samarthmisra6064 2 жыл бұрын
What if Bharat existed in 1444!
@remhawk73
@remhawk73 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a mod with all of these What ifs
@hellbergsucks
@hellbergsucks 2 жыл бұрын
what if the southern slavic tribes went west instead of to the balkan peninsula?
@anofsti
@anofsti 2 жыл бұрын
What if all african and american starting nations was really powerful? Make colonizing hard and see what happens.
@hellbergsucks
@hellbergsucks 2 жыл бұрын
@@anofsti what if anders was its own country, like the enväldesstat of his excellence anders andersson?
@VirgoShelter
@VirgoShelter 2 жыл бұрын
"Castile is starting some colonization of their own" Show Scotland in Puerto Rico
@monferno1
@monferno1 2 жыл бұрын
YOU THOUGHT IT WAS CASTILE BUT IT WAS ME, DIO!
@DanksterPaws
@DanksterPaws 2 жыл бұрын
You mean… Port Beairteach?
@Arthur-jx8bm
@Arthur-jx8bm 2 жыл бұрын
Just love how the Roman Empire immediately allied Ulm, they have their priorities straight
@RocketHarry865
@RocketHarry865 2 жыл бұрын
Well Ulm is a nice trading center
@kys6557
@kys6557 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if paradox snuck some ai fuckery in for ulm
@ibra673
@ibra673 2 жыл бұрын
@@kys6557 I wouldn’t mind
@ibra673
@ibra673 2 жыл бұрын
@@kys6557 I wouldn’t mind
@LlamasAtMidnight
@LlamasAtMidnight 2 жыл бұрын
Who wouldn’t?
@tommyk7061
@tommyk7061 2 жыл бұрын
9:05 "in the world nothing else too out of the ordinary" Meanwhile in siberia: ROMAN OB
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo
@jamaluddinkhalifa8371
@jamaluddinkhalifa8371 2 жыл бұрын
it's there at 5:58 too
@t.g.4355
@t.g.4355 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion for a future video: 1444 start with Western Roman Empire (rome), Eastern Roman Empire (byzantium), Holy Roman Empire (hre) and Third Roman Empire (russia) and set them all as historical rivals.
@Alexis_H.
@Alexis_H. 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was about to say
@antonkwanton5620
@antonkwanton5620 2 жыл бұрын
third roman empire? more like third world empire
@GRANFRA99
@GRANFRA99 2 жыл бұрын
Here and western Roman empire have many provinces in common
@t.g.4355
@t.g.4355 2 жыл бұрын
@@GRANFRA99 wre should have the common provinces in Italy and hre the ones in france and Netherlands
@ML-lb7ig
@ML-lb7ig 2 жыл бұрын
@@antonkwanton5620 polish cope
@antoniobuono5501
@antoniobuono5501 2 жыл бұрын
I would be cool to give each other a restoration of union
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
The extreme liberty desire would kill that idea.
@tywinlannister9391
@tywinlannister9391 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLibermania no. The West was much powerful. He can triumph
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
@@tywinlannister9391 True. But internal fightings cost so much time. Plus, who knows how the AI reacts if they have a illoyal subject at 100 % even if there is no war? Maybe they won't declare other wars because there is the possibility of an Independence war.
@Testimony_Of_JTF
@Testimony_Of_JTF 2 жыл бұрын
@@tywinlannister9391 Not in real life lol
@ryanjuguilon213
@ryanjuguilon213 2 жыл бұрын
@@tywinlannister9391 wht kind of history are they teaching u? Te eastern art was the richest and most populated part. It was the cradle of civilizations, crossroads of eurasian trade. The west was the backwater. Thats h rason it collapsed. The western part was being subsidized by the richer eastern part
@Giovanni00831
@Giovanni00831 2 жыл бұрын
Castille began to colonize, actually that's Scotland
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed later
@meatworld4776
@meatworld4776 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair, rome being unable to conquer scotland is very historically accurate
@howdyciaody
@howdyciaody 2 жыл бұрын
No cursed game is complete without protestant Ireland
@user-xw5xo3bv1n
@user-xw5xo3bv1n 2 жыл бұрын
How about catolician Mali?
@cybernetix_1440
@cybernetix_1440 2 жыл бұрын
1:28 It seems the Aegean sea has turned a slight brown tint, I’m assuming this is because you might have accidentally converted the province to orthodox in the console.
@quintiax
@quintiax 2 жыл бұрын
The fish have seen the light
@Angelo-ki7wr
@Angelo-ki7wr 2 жыл бұрын
thats Atlantis getting converted
@TauTauofSkalga
@TauTauofSkalga 2 жыл бұрын
orthodox fish :flushed:
@CaptainBalcon
@CaptainBalcon 2 жыл бұрын
That's the Aegean Sea
@cybernetix_1440
@cybernetix_1440 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainBalcon Oops! I’ve changed the comment now, thanks for pointing it out.
@dete31
@dete31 2 жыл бұрын
If the dev map was in 395, most dev would be in Italy, Greece, Egypt and the area around Carthage, and the east would have more dev
@celdur4635
@celdur4635 2 жыл бұрын
When they split the empire, 80% of the economic power was in the East. Talk about balance, they had to give Carthage to the West as well as much of the Balkans which was the recruiting ground or they were toast. Through a process i don't know, but the Romans claimed was real, at this late stage "recruiting people in the cities for military duty was pointless since they were useless for the tough life of a soldier" And due to massive increase in the power of the aristocrats the fields were tilled by slaves and not roman citizens, and farmers used to be the prime population for recruits, which is why they turned to Mercenaries more and more. This is the only plausible explanation i've heard for the fall since Rome alone had 1 million citizens, 500k men, maybe 200k in military age... and they couldn't recruit and form endless armies like in Republican times?... its fishy, unless the whole recruitment system had broken down.
@korgalis
@korgalis 2 жыл бұрын
@@celdur4635 why would you risk hard life as a soldier if you were provided bread and circus as a roman citizen. There was simply no economic reason for them to join the army, same thing happend in the eastern part,
@dragooll2023
@dragooll2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@celdur4635 Most of income was in the east, simply because it didn't need much garrisons, and the administrative costs were lighter.
@celdur4635
@celdur4635 2 жыл бұрын
@@korgalis It seems this was the case yes.
@redcrusader701
@redcrusader701 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Pablo, Rome had become unsustainable. Too many threats. Too many civil wars. Western Rome tore itself apart. Emperors flew in and out. If you appointed a man to lead a province if he was too good he might overthrow you, too good but loyal you might get overthrown and him placed in charge, too bad and the province falls Western Rome fell into an impossible situation of civil wars and unrest whike their foes grew ever bolder Politics too are responsible for the end of the Byzantine empire, their infinite infighting led to them being weak and susceptible to Ottomaning
@Toumahitoedits
@Toumahitoedits 2 жыл бұрын
Western Rome: We're...ALIVE! Eastern Rome: This is probably a genjutsu made by the Ottomans and the Ostrogoths...
@ZlewikkTV
@ZlewikkTV 2 жыл бұрын
You should also add Holy Roman Empire there :p
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
You know I though about it lmao. Maybe next time!
@Birobidzhaneiro
@Birobidzhaneiro 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedHawk Well then Third Rome also can be an option)
@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944
@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 2 жыл бұрын
@@Birobidzhaneiro eu4 but all empires that claimed to be successors of Rome exist in 1444.
@flazzorb
@flazzorb 2 жыл бұрын
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 problem, the Ottoman Empire was one of them.
@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944
@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 2 жыл бұрын
@@flazzorb Give ottomans coastline of Anatolia and make Karaman form Rum while having Byzantines own their weird-ass region I can't remember the name of.
@rhystaylor9290
@rhystaylor9290 2 жыл бұрын
What about making every country have only 1 province and have to colonise everything
@benpfriem5511
@benpfriem5511 2 жыл бұрын
... Lag
@anbersker3356
@anbersker3356 2 жыл бұрын
Thats cool
@kiwuuspurr1927
@kiwuuspurr1927 2 жыл бұрын
@@benpfriem5511 Why? There would be much less lag since each country has only 1 province
@mashroomghost8456
@mashroomghost8456 2 жыл бұрын
Damn man I just realized how much work you put in to create these kind of scenarios, I mean converting and culture converting vast lands like that with console should be exhausting, much love
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
It takes a while to set these up lmao. Thanks for the support!
@bigsealfan9579
@bigsealfan9579 2 жыл бұрын
You can check the province history in EU4 right? That would tell you how they got Ob
@zakaryloreto6526
@zakaryloreto6526 2 жыл бұрын
also can just do the replay button to see if they conquered anything
@user-tz3zm3ej9j
@user-tz3zm3ej9j 2 жыл бұрын
if you go to 6:04 you can see they got some provinces there, prob an accident
@daspotato895
@daspotato895 2 жыл бұрын
1:32 love how you also converted the Agean to Orthodox
@irmaosmatos4026
@irmaosmatos4026 2 жыл бұрын
1444 Europe with 1914 borders. Make Austria-Hungary just Austria, without the Personal Union, Russia shouldn't have Siberia and the Middle East should have 1914 borders as well, Finland, Tunis, Morocco and Egypt should be vassals of their owners.
@odinadeler1835
@odinadeler1835 2 жыл бұрын
Austria-Hungary in 1914 (from 1867 to the disolution of the Austro-Hungarian empire) was a personal union to make people less wanting to revolt because of more autonomy because that was the only way that the Habsburgs were going to be able to rule that area like how in EUIV someone would also release an area as a vasal to not have to deal with as many revolts, so if you wanted 1914 borders it would make more sense with Austria Hungary as a personal union.
@kathic6402
@kathic6402 2 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess about Rome colonizing Siberia, I'd say that an event gave them a core on a war enemy over there. In the peace deal they demanded the core be returned.
@Weltenbastler2000
@Weltenbastler2000 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough Roman Empires. What if the 2 Roman Empires, HRE and Russia existed in 1444?
@MahmutHaydut
@MahmutHaydut 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT if Uncoşlonized land are a country
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 2 жыл бұрын
If you made a map with every acclaimed Roman Empire, it would just be a normal map.
@Letsplaypasi
@Letsplaypasi 2 жыл бұрын
9:20 was Scotland colonizing, not castile
@newromanianmappernrm4420
@newromanianmappernrm4420 2 жыл бұрын
Are we all *really* just going to gloss over Revolutionary Korea ruling southern Japan? We are...? Ok then I guess
@louisqueneau6140
@louisqueneau6140 2 жыл бұрын
when there the british isles aren't colonizing colonial eastern america isn't colonized because the chesepeake trade node only goes to the english channel, so it isn't very attractive to AIs with their trade nodes in other places. It's good to see Iroquois form they are a cool native formable
@swamidude2214
@swamidude2214 2 жыл бұрын
Friesland was quite active in the colonization game and has acces to the English node, they were third power before the colonies broke away
@Podzhagitel
@Podzhagitel 2 жыл бұрын
someday… “What if the Western Roman, Eastern Roman, Holy Roman, Russian (Third Rome) Empires and the United States (Pax Americana) existed at the same time???”
@Podzhagitel
@Podzhagitel 2 жыл бұрын
oh and the Sultanate of Rum (somehow)
@hubert8438
@hubert8438 2 жыл бұрын
12:00 Rome has provinces in Siberia here: 6:15
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@perturaboIV
@perturaboIV 2 жыл бұрын
Your guides have helped me so much, any chance you could do livonian order?
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help! Yeah I'll probably do the Livonian Order eventually
@madhavsharma4896
@madhavsharma4896 2 жыл бұрын
What if the usa and ussr were enemies in 1444
@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944
@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 2 жыл бұрын
Proxy wars in middle ages.
@mortimersmithsr2522
@mortimersmithsr2522 2 жыл бұрын
Best series on youtube!!
@thetexanhusky
@thetexanhusky Жыл бұрын
Seeing Frisian South America is just so weird, and the fact that Red Hawk didn't comment on that (surprised he was baffled that Friesland was the 3rd largest power at 19:44), just wowed me.
@notyouraveragelink5391
@notyouraveragelink5391 2 жыл бұрын
In this alternate universe, imagining that the Roman Empire is still administrated the way it was before (for some reason), I like to imagine the Eastern portion deals with the affairs on the Mainland while the West deals with the affairs on its colonies -- though both still hold the original lands they do, with Byzantium having a somewhat higher authority (don't ask questions). With this imagination we also ignore the wars that happened between them. This is stupid as hell, I know, but I still can't get it off of my head somehow.
@classiclife7204
@classiclife7204 2 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch, pure and simple. :)
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@etaiger
@etaiger 2 жыл бұрын
Yooooo that was my idea! So happy to see you use ideas from the suggestions channel
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
I always keep an eye out!
@arkadiuszrenc1498
@arkadiuszrenc1498 2 жыл бұрын
Idea: what if 3 Roman empires existed (weast+east+united HRE)
@jon_j__
@jon_j__ 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting if, in the beginning, you had set the two Roman empires as allies and historical friends (and maybe also given them 100 trust towards each other?) (and maybe also revoked any cores and claims they have on each other?) (and maybe also edit their mission trees so they don't want each others' land?). This would hopefully be good enough to keep them focused outwards, instead of beating each other up.
@WeedmanSkirr
@WeedmanSkirr 2 жыл бұрын
and then nothing happens?
@thedukeofdeathpt6262
@thedukeofdeathpt6262 Жыл бұрын
@@WeedmanSkirr Personal Unions, maybe?
@WeedmanSkirr
@WeedmanSkirr Жыл бұрын
@@thedukeofdeathpt6262 yes!1!1?1
@Qureas
@Qureas 2 жыл бұрын
"no expansion into scotland"... They built hadrians wall for a reason :P
@thadeusgaspar224
@thadeusgaspar224 2 жыл бұрын
"they both supposed to be orthodox" oof. papists aint gonna like that
@Valefor_Bahamut
@Valefor_Bahamut 2 жыл бұрын
I know it would take a lot of work but it would be really awesome to see a what if scenario involving Crusader Kings 3 starting maps
@gyrostat5211
@gyrostat5211 2 жыл бұрын
you should do this again but with the holy romans too i'd be rad
@williammangelsen3795
@williammangelsen3795 2 жыл бұрын
You would be rad?
@gyrostat5211
@gyrostat5211 2 жыл бұрын
@@williammangelsen3795 it would
@williammangelsen3795
@williammangelsen3795 2 жыл бұрын
@@gyrostat5211 😁
@damiencosta6471
@damiencosta6471 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious how you make these custom scenarios! That’s awesome
@tuluppampam
@tuluppampam 2 жыл бұрын
use console commands to change provinces the way you want then switch to spectate mode
@jasongonsalves2704
@jasongonsalves2704 2 жыл бұрын
I think they'll immediately rival eachother and start death waring each other.
@crimsonflood1643
@crimsonflood1643 2 жыл бұрын
at 5:58 u can see they have a province in Siberia so yeah u accidentally gave it to them probably lmao
@henrymicek4566
@henrymicek4566 2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see an ai video like this on some of the mods you have covered like antebellum
@pelinalwhitestrake3367
@pelinalwhitestrake3367 2 жыл бұрын
Puerto Rico: *Bagpipe noises* The Red Hawk: Castilians are colonizing...
@mertbayulger620
@mertbayulger620 2 жыл бұрын
Certified Bing Chilling Video
@theo-dr2dz
@theo-dr2dz Ай бұрын
Being born in Friesland it was nice seeing Friesland being the third most powerful nation in the world for a little while. And also nice to see all South America having Frisian culture.
@tomsai1257
@tomsai1257 2 жыл бұрын
9:20 It's not Castile, it's Scotland !
@MCKevin289
@MCKevin289 2 жыл бұрын
8:20 I wonder if the Hibernian Order will march around Northern England in green sashes on July the 12th in this timeline.
@Mrfox-YouTube
@Mrfox-YouTube 2 жыл бұрын
by giving roman empire 2 provinces you basically gave him all of Mexico, Australia, and Siberia because he probably wouldn't of taken exploration or expansion and maybe Byzantium could of colonized it instead because they did get that pu over Muscovy so they would of gotten siberia most likely but 200 dev isnt nothing byz got kinda trolled in this synario
@midgetporn9735
@midgetporn9735 2 жыл бұрын
Replace "of" with "have" and you're good
@BooTleg_AristoCrat
@BooTleg_AristoCrat 2 жыл бұрын
Toggurt is The new San Marino
@RRapierre
@RRapierre 2 жыл бұрын
You should have also reduced development of most of the provinces in the Western Roman Empire, because in the 4th century, most of the west was backwater and the east was generally more developed. That's why the West had more land. The imperial split was roughly equivalent economically for both sides. In 1444, the West would 100% beat the East, since the West can just expand easily into the high-dev but fractured HRE, while the East can only expand into low-dev steppe and desert provinces.
@dragooll2023
@dragooll2023 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. They had less income because they needed larger armies.
@oblivionrapture1469
@oblivionrapture1469 2 жыл бұрын
I think you need to balance these things more, they should’ve had similar dev
@goose9515
@goose9515 2 жыл бұрын
Also western Rome having all 3 end nodes in entirety made them rich
@bossenes5020
@bossenes5020 2 жыл бұрын
Thats 1 of the main problems of eu4 The dev in western europe in comparison to eastern europe and the middle east is very inaccourate Even with africa Songhai had 10 million inhabitants And mali about 20 at 1500 Morocco 13 million(1600s) Portugal had 1 million England less than 3 Or trade and income wise The middle east had way more trade income than europe And the yearly income of western europe was not better than the east The west should get way later buffs when trade with the new world starts and so on
@dancm5929
@dancm5929 2 жыл бұрын
Trade value is pretty acurate though, the only innacuracy is that it can only be steered into predetermined directions. But majority of the trade income originates in asia.
@rowanmales3430
@rowanmales3430 2 жыл бұрын
@@bossenes5020 It's not a problem with EU4. Development isn't supposed to be directly proportional to population without conern with anything else. The map is a fairly good "distribution of power" as it was in 1444. That being said, the dev was completely out of wack for this playthough, but that's because you are bringing entities from a thousand years before into 1444. Ideally, the development would have been rebalanced for whichever year those empires split, which would have resulted in the East being far better off instead. It's not an issue with the game; the game isn't supposed to be played with this context lol.
@zohrn_4562
@zohrn_4562 Жыл бұрын
9:18 - that's no Castille...
@boyshan27
@boyshan27 2 жыл бұрын
9:20 thats scotland
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you're right
@terrasentheterrarian4084
@terrasentheterrarian4084 2 жыл бұрын
The four roman empire : Western roman empire, Easter roman empire, the failure and the wannabe
@Bobberino22
@Bobberino22 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I’d love to see this scenario again! But with a few twists: Borders of 450 would be cool, suevic kingdom & visigoths free. No rule over England. HRE enabled would make this a super fair fight & great scenario!
@saviourofrome2235
@saviourofrome2235 2 жыл бұрын
what kind of keyboard do you have? it gives nice clicks
@samuelhiatt9338
@samuelhiatt9338 2 жыл бұрын
My best guess for Roman Ob is that Rome at some point ended up rivaled to Oirat and took the ignore coring distance age bonus, went to war with Oirat, and took one province for no reason. Edit: Either that or Oirat or Uzbek at one point got small enough to be vassalized by Rome and then Rome seized land from them and continued colonizing. Edit 2: FINAL GUESS Rome at some point briefly vassalized Transoxiana and colonized off of them into Siberia and then they broke free due to being disconnected. This would also explain Transoxiana's random Catholic province.
@iandick1364
@iandick1364 9 ай бұрын
Would probably have wanted to edit the save file to make them historical friends.
@arekzawistowski2609
@arekzawistowski2609 2 жыл бұрын
Why you didn't just used "history of province" book to check how they got their Siberian provinces?
@juliusaurelius9815
@juliusaurelius9815 2 жыл бұрын
Big epic bro
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Ebic
@AsanpiCh
@AsanpiCh 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make everyone in the game a stateless society for a future video? That might be highly entertaining.
@purin6792
@purin6792 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content
@TheRedHawk
@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@a1phamemes734
@a1phamemes734 2 жыл бұрын
at 6:02 you can see Rome in Siberia in the corner
@thatonejoey1847
@thatonejoey1847 2 жыл бұрын
Nice catch
@happyslapsgiving5421
@happyslapsgiving5421 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like these should have started as allies, if not in a union.
@kevinhartmemes3821
@kevinhartmemes3821 2 жыл бұрын
2:49 you can see that the Aegean sea is Orthodox.
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 жыл бұрын
Haha cool video. And now i know what i'd do if i could go back in time: disable the HRE, or kill it before its inception. Not Charlemagne, he good. I mean AFTER. Idk... in the 900s?
@user-pe8oc5es9w
@user-pe8oc5es9w 2 жыл бұрын
Now do all 4 roman empires with the HRE and the Russian Third Rome
@Templar_
@Templar_ 2 жыл бұрын
Why does Byzantium own Torontál in Hungary even though it's on the other side of the danube?
@someguysomeone3543
@someguysomeone3543 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot that eu 4 has mainly just the 1444 year. Maybe use a mod for an earlier start date to make a what if scenario. Like for example: what if achaemenid empire existed in 1200. Or unified Germanic tribes in 5.
@doof497
@doof497 2 жыл бұрын
How did you form Rome without all the required provinces? Did you give them to them and then reannexed the provinces with Byzantium? I am curious as I would love to have a small rome conquer the world.
@doof497
@doof497 2 жыл бұрын
Also 100 years more and the west would most likely have conquered all of the east (That was roman in real life)
@ryanhodges2201
@ryanhodges2201 2 жыл бұрын
next time we should have all 3, West, East, and a Fully formed HRE
@ghostyghost8318
@ghostyghost8318 2 жыл бұрын
D-did you convert the Aegean sea itself to orthodox...
@antonkonig4314
@antonkonig4314 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys I have a question: In custom nation, how can you higher the point limit?
@syro5775
@syro5775 2 жыл бұрын
I love this game because it shows Circassia my ancestral homeland 😭😍
@crqf2010ruler
@crqf2010ruler 2 жыл бұрын
9:20 Ah yes, Castillian (Scottish) Porto Rico...
@lindoa307
@lindoa307 2 жыл бұрын
Accidently gave roman empire 2 provinces in Siberia. it really hurt in the ;later wars as you see end game with Siberia being occupied. it split the Byzantium forces sending them in the wrong direction. i wonder if that happened in all the wars. something small like that could be devastating. AI has a tendency to focus on sending troops to small enclaves like that.
@rowanmales3430
@rowanmales3430 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily, it almost certainly didn't change the result of their conflict in any serious way. With that much dev difference, Western Empire taking slightly better military ideas, and Byzantium's REALLY bad luck with it's capital placement, it didn't do anything. In an ideal world, Byzantium would relocte their capital to the other side of the Bosphorus Straight. If they then managed to maintain ship supremacy by the straight (a lot more possible at least) then it could have had non-negligible changes. Actually, you could even argue that giving the Western Empire interests in the Far East dragged them into a few long and pointless wars where they might otherwise have attacked Byzantium. We don't fully know which way it helped due to the dev increase being a rounding error and not of consequence.
@joexalo6840
@joexalo6840 2 жыл бұрын
The lost legion appeared in siberia!
@heisenstein6392
@heisenstein6392 2 жыл бұрын
That is super unfair. Roman empire has pretty good ideas while Byz ideas are ehhh, not to mention that x3 dev difference 😂. Still a fun what-if nonetheless, though you should've also added the HRE for fun too :P Edit: Still curious as to how Western Rome managed to put colonies in Siberia
@Admiral45-10
@Admiral45-10 2 жыл бұрын
What if all countries with colonial desire (France, entire British Isles, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands region, Western Germany, entire Iberia and Morrocco) were united?
@Tho-ugh-t
@Tho-ugh-t 2 жыл бұрын
it would be cool if they made a thing where when a big nation annexes a lot of small/ medium countries in a geographic region, the rest of the nations would get an event saying for example spanish threat, and they would have an option to join on a coalition/ offensive war to try and take out the bigger guy. This would be ofset by relation and internal situation of the countries attacking
@swamidude2214
@swamidude2214 2 жыл бұрын
There are allready coalitions, its just to easy to manage those variables.
@Tho-ugh-t
@Tho-ugh-t 2 жыл бұрын
@@swamidude2214 truces wouldnt matter
@R3GARnator
@R3GARnator 2 жыл бұрын
Friesland: The Power of Heart!
@asiancat1648
@asiancat1648 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, we can have the Eastern, Western, and Holy Roman Empire all at the same time.
@matthewjmcgraw
@matthewjmcgraw 2 жыл бұрын
Even the Aegean sea is orthodox!!
@zigzaggymac
@zigzaggymac 2 жыл бұрын
I am just now watching this and so confused how Castille exists?
@carlosturris9935
@carlosturris9935 2 жыл бұрын
If the Roman Empire went to war with Byzantium then gave them a few provinces in Italy they could start a coalition with the rest of Europe which is big brains
@brianlempa
@brianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Alternative Title: What if Castile was an OPM
@irgendwer3610
@irgendwer3610 2 жыл бұрын
1:40 you converted the greek sea to orthodox aswell, not even the sea people are free from the missionaries
@a.gallardo4321
@a.gallardo4321 2 жыл бұрын
That's an ... Interesting south America
@anishlahiri5515
@anishlahiri5515 2 жыл бұрын
How did you create this ?
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure provinces were not so developed in the West back in 395 as in 1444, reason why the West is so strong.
@Delta_47
@Delta_47 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Eu4 but the Americas are already colonized
@marcopolo___
@marcopolo___ 2 жыл бұрын
They wouldnt expand into scotland cuz of the hadrian wall
@specil-k
@specil-k 2 жыл бұрын
For another video idea, you could do "What if Islam was Unified in 1444" (a.k.a. "What if the Caliphate existed in 1444")
@thatguyproductions4077
@thatguyproductions4077 2 жыл бұрын
4th vid of asking for You should do a “What if Islam never took off as a caliphate” and have it so most of Arabia is under an Islam state, but Persia is zoroastrian and still strong, Anatolia is divided up between the Sultanate of Rum, Byzantium, and a few other minors, and that Byzantium still owns greece, Macedonia and Bulgaria, but Egypt is still under islam but in a seperate country from the Caliphate. And also the Levant should have a Cristian Israel and Lebanon, but has a few Turkic ( north and northeast) and islamic (south and southeast) kingdoms surrounding them. One more thing is that the Steppe regions should still be like a tengri faith from the mongols. I think it would be a cool game.
@DatAlien
@DatAlien 2 жыл бұрын
Weren't the Canaries under Roman controll?
@adiletbeyshekeyev
@adiletbeyshekeyev 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! How to dev provinces with army tradition?
@Tdude2020
@Tdude2020 2 жыл бұрын
What if Ireland were to have a colonial empire and mixed with a bunch of cultures? Greenland, Canada, Hawaii, Indonesia, Australia, Japan, etc.
@diamondinthesky4771
@diamondinthesky4771 27 күн бұрын
tbh Western Rome developing to be Catholic isn't entirely out landish. Rome is the only patriarch/pentarch outside of the Eastern Empire's borders, so it's possible that Rome would still hold religious supremacy in the west.
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