Dr Mike Israetel's thoughts on Turkish Get Ups as an exercise
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@What-he5pr6 ай бұрын
The repeated thrusts provide training stimulus.
@jerzey226 ай бұрын
Holding the weight over the head while doing thrusts is a waste of time. There is no resistance through the hips…..
@omarperez86346 ай бұрын
😈
@glawio6 ай бұрын
@@jerzey22 I think you missed the joke brother 😂
@armoredcoreenjoyer5 ай бұрын
😂
@MrDiabeeto5 ай бұрын
@@jerzey22went right over your head lol
@nvlarcht4 ай бұрын
As a turk, i can confirm thats how we always get up
@XobyThePoet4 ай бұрын
I always wondered!
@bagelman26344 ай бұрын
You keep a kettlebell on your night stand?
@patrickreynolds54634 ай бұрын
With the thrusting too?
@KingPandaTV4 ай бұрын
Turks can ligma
@korranis14 ай бұрын
Can u make me iskender
@francescofulghieri96086 ай бұрын
why bro thrusting like that 😭
@tastyredsauce6 ай бұрын
You know exactly what he’s training for
@GrgAProduction5 ай бұрын
DuuuuuuuH
@_baller5 ай бұрын
Asking for a restraining order if you pull that in the gym lol
@mranapra64395 ай бұрын
Duhhhhh😊l
@kewltony5 ай бұрын
That's his turkish getting up
@z3636527984 ай бұрын
“You never stand to base against resistance though” Derrick Lewis has entered the chat
@BigBADSTUFF694 ай бұрын
yeah really, having done BJJ I have absolutely grabbed a collar to frame and stood to base.
@jasoncronin91454 ай бұрын
@@BigBADSTUFF69Dr Mike is a brown belt but does mostly no gi from what I can tell.
@shrimuyopa81174 ай бұрын
Derrick Lewis doesn't stand up to base though. His is more of a wrestler's stand up.
@Lurkin2394 ай бұрын
"Aight....imma stand up now"
@extantsanity4 ай бұрын
@@shrimuyopa8117 Does he even do it like a wrestler? Because his standups look casual AF and it's bonkers haha
@pgreen2115 ай бұрын
The turkish get up is valuable for exactly one type of person: the new parent. Surprisingly useful when picking up babies.
@coacheugeneteo5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@user-rn1ws5id8h5 ай бұрын
And making them.
@duncanonme87444 ай бұрын
@@user-rn1ws5id8hThe hip thrust and zercher squats are better.
@nprwikeepa60824 ай бұрын
Yeah I pick up my babies with one hand at full arm extension
@syky1454 ай бұрын
Whenever I pick up my little boy and stand up, I always think about turkish get up for some reason and it's probably because of that standing part from one knee down position. I hate turkish get ups, I never do them and I am just about fine. TGUs are a meme exercise imho but who am I to judge the others based on their exercise choices.
@3COI4 ай бұрын
They made me do Turkish Get Ups in PT for me shoulder. It definitely helps with shoulder stability like he said
@norkci80904 ай бұрын
same here, I started doing it to help my popping shoulders
@syky1454 ай бұрын
Dead hangs helped me with popping shoulders. Try it out as well
@BrodeyDoverosx4 ай бұрын
It’s good for way more than the shoulder. And if you don’t know that, you or the person coaching you doesn’t understand that. Much like this chap. Proximal stiffness and distal mobility…
@gdotace4 ай бұрын
@@BrodeyDoverosxproximal stiffness and distal mobility of what?
@3COI4 ай бұрын
@@BrodeyDoverosx ok. I didn't say it wasn't good for anything else. I just said it IS good for shoulder stability
@justinwescott81255 ай бұрын
Dr. Mike hates any movement that doesn't maximize hypertrophy. He's the type of guy who would watch a 100 year old yoga master fold himself into a pretzel, and say, "That's a lot of wasted movement."
@beingofstrange4 ай бұрын
have to agree with this. kinda weird because hes a brown belt at bjj, though
@yessum154 ай бұрын
@beingofstrange He learned pretty quickly that both weak minded humans & the algorithm confuse negativity for expertise and just criticizes everything.
@SpankinMyDough4 ай бұрын
Watch the whole video he explains it more. Has absolutely nothing to do with hypertrophy and more so a better exercise selection that carries over to the sports that people generally train Turkish get ups for.
@CM-jc7gk4 ай бұрын
Couldn't be more wrong about him & his views. Sorry your workouts have always been huge wastes of time, that's not his fault.
@CM-jc7gk4 ай бұрын
@@beingofstrangeyou should watch some of his videos
@lihchong22674 ай бұрын
I don't know what bjj dr mike does but you absolutely do stand to base under resistance in the ones I've done.
@nk-jz2jg4 ай бұрын
hes a brown belt
@FreaQo14 ай бұрын
Even if you don't stand up against resistance, it can help you get up faster and staying in balance
@afnanbogey4 ай бұрын
The only time you need a technical standup is against resistance. Otherwise you can just… regular standup 😂
@tjl46884 ай бұрын
@@nk-jz2jgThen he should turn it in, because the point of the technical standup is so you can stand up without being pushed over.
@nk-jz2jg4 ай бұрын
@@tjl4688 and ur above a brown belt I should assume then
@allanh71375 ай бұрын
I love them for how they help my shoulders feel as a boxer. No pain.
@BOXEO14 ай бұрын
Damnnn i might have to try these then! My left shoulders been killing me at the back when jabbing and throwing hooks
@VinDicator-704 ай бұрын
Same here. Though, I was exposed to them in wrestling first. Shoulder stability is simply relative to the supporting musculature’s ability to resist forces jamming the humeral head into the socket, and attempting to pull it out.
@jacobtimbers3 ай бұрын
It's dogwater when it comes to movement economy though. You're wasting a lot of energy for something that targets your shoulders and rotator cuffs. Do this instead. Take a light dumbbell (start out with 6 lbs or something) and slowly lift it like you're doing a biceps curl and move it around your head like you're swinging a sword around your body. This will give you a similar challenge for your rotator cuffs but eliminate the involvement of irrelevant muscles... and thus won't fatigue you extra, for no reason
@grentreem30962 ай бұрын
Are you talking about something sinilar to a kettlebell halo?
@lashedandscorned2 ай бұрын
@@jacobtimbersFatigue is a meme. Vast majority of people who worry about fatigue don't even train hard.
@sammyroberts89025 ай бұрын
Not gonna argue Turkish getup is good, but if you're in any sort of wrestling scramble you're gonna be standing against additional resistance
@Yo641304 ай бұрын
Yes, pushing someone so you dont go back to your back. Is weird dr Mike dropped the ball here
@jacko92934 ай бұрын
Turkish get up is not specific to wrestling scrambles?
@sammyroberts89024 ай бұрын
@@jacko9293 don't believe I said they were
@cgrado4 ай бұрын
But not with the full load on an extended shoulder, which as he said is the limiting factor. Train similar with a weight vest, or bag on your shoulder, sure. You'll be much stronger than a tiny kettlebell or dumbbell wrenching your shoulder out.
@Yo641304 ай бұрын
@@cgrado but TGOs are generally done with heavy KBs, why is it wrong that that is the limiting factor? When scrambling you usually have your arm extended to create distance and the opponent will try to move that arm to get in. A weight vest doesnt simulate that and a bag could but you would need both arms to carry the bag which makes it another excercise entirely. A valid one but different.
@snoopyflick95196 ай бұрын
"It's like a circus act" Ya but that's what origins of strongmen/body building was.
@souksouk89945 ай бұрын
😅👍naked Truth
@Chris-ro7mn5 ай бұрын
Damn.
@DaddyC4455 ай бұрын
Would a 1969 Mustang be better than a 2024 Mustang?
@orangutanxremix5104 ай бұрын
@@DaddyC445yes
@HessianLikeTheFabric4 ай бұрын
Such a line of argumentation only leads to a recursion into absurdity
@FourCorners2574 ай бұрын
I take in lots of fitness advice from many different people, including Mike Israetel. He is primarily concerned with body building type training, and that is fine. However, as 57 year old man primarily training for strength and mobility, I will continue to do TGUs as part of my warm-ups. I believe I get a lot of value from them for my purposed.
@davidhickey86133 ай бұрын
trains tons of balance and stability. I'll keep doing them too
@MikeTurk-ww5wt4 ай бұрын
I teach BJJ. Turkish get ups are the single greatest exercise for grapplers
@GrandmasterFerg4 ай бұрын
Why?
@KeyserSoze234 ай бұрын
@@GrandmasterFerg lol he doesn't actually know, someone just told him to do it
@neinbruderja75194 ай бұрын
@@KeyserSoze23 grappling positions are weird and awkward and require a huge amount of isometric strength in weird and awkward positions, such as framing from different positions. These challenge glamohumeral abducted resistance, which the tgu conditions within the first half of the movement and that includes closed and open chain stability (or do you train anything resembling a lateral press?). Grappling is grappling. If grappling would mainly include big compund movements it would be called weightlifting instead. Let top tier competetors include their TGUs and you do your chest on mondays, back on Wednesdays and legs on fridays.
@TheHonestPeanut4 ай бұрын
I think burpies over and under a 2' stationary rope are but that's just my opinion.
@barbicud5 ай бұрын
Fucking loooove TGU idc how unoptimal or useless it is. Feels nice and it’s fun
@shraka4 ай бұрын
This is a genuine reason to do an exercise. Still not really a good exercise though.
@bloodycrepe4 ай бұрын
@@shraka I couldn't disagree more. It's a fantastic exercise for real world application. You keep doing curls though
@shraka4 ай бұрын
@@bloodycrepe The real world application of getting up while holding something heavy over your head? You don't need to pretend it's some magical exercise, if you like it just do it. Having fun is under-rated.
@bloodycrepe4 ай бұрын
@@shraka yes, let's dumbify it. No, these are not the only benefits of tgu. Far from it.
@TheHonestPeanut4 ай бұрын
@@shraka Moving branches while logging, firewood production, stacking hay, passing feed bags to a 2nd floor, building stone walls, hanging rafters... I guess that's just me and other farmers though.
@HiYesThisIsJake4 ай бұрын
I thought shoulder stability was the whole point. When i wanted more stability, I did this exercise. What else do people think it does?
@chrisblair92724 ай бұрын
It's often used for core stability as well. Not that there aren't much better ways to target that specific adaptation, but it's another reason some people program it.
@clydenolet7364 ай бұрын
Great for core - I recently hit 100LB for reps on a barbell get up. The only reason for that is it was a test of strength to train at Sig Kleins gym back in the day.
@TonyCox13514 ай бұрын
Mike tries to be too hard to be a contrarian. Not every exercise movement has to be “perfect”.
@HiYesThisIsJake4 ай бұрын
@@p0k3mn1 it wouldn't be my first choice to strengthen core, but it should still work the core, right? Just about any compound movement does, right?
@LtDanhaslegs4 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna argue directly with the guy, but it’s like… the most compound of all compound movements. It makes you strong the way construction workers are strong, it trains your whole body and brain to control a heavy load at an awkward angle. For hypertrophy and weight room stuff he’s right, but strength is a fuzzier thing when you’re talking about sports and two men pushing at each other.
@thewombatking4 ай бұрын
Sandbag get up. Start lying on your back with heavy bag on your chest. as you start moving up you transition to shoulder and stand all the way up. Throw the bag down and lift up to opposite shoulder. Return to lying position and that’s a rep. Repeat and swap shoulders on every throw down. Can throw in some floor press in lying position too. I did this with firefighters and military trainer. It’s all sorts of hell but seems to translate to some real world fighting and manual labour strength.
@thewombatking4 ай бұрын
Oh we called it a Yogi Bear or the Fucktruck. Pick ya poison.
@camboyrdee4 ай бұрын
Just commented about the same thing. Anyone shitting on the get up has never done it with a 200+ pound sandbag. It literally works every muscle in your body.
@eyespy30014 ай бұрын
Or just do barbell squats
@MaaveMaave4 ай бұрын
@@eyespy3001how is a barbell squat comparable to this exercise?
@camboyrdee4 ай бұрын
@@eyespy3001 found the guy who’s never touched a sandbag
@hunterhall15755 ай бұрын
"Stability is useless, blow out your shoulders"
@slaske51906 күн бұрын
😂
@FlorisGerber4 ай бұрын
Thats simply a bad take. I tried TGU for a while, and within about 3 weeks of 10 TGU per side with 20 KGs, I got a MASSIVE difference in Handstand stability. And NO, you cannot gain the same stability just doing handstands. If I tried to stimulate the same muscles, I would have to train at the very edge of dangerous falls all the time.
@cjironcjiron4 ай бұрын
Well he does say the only thing he acknowledges is that it increases shoulder stability
@FlorisGerber4 ай бұрын
@@cjironcjiron yes, but he makes it sound as if this is not important. The strenghth increase I got was really stupid.
@awcbaseball35004 ай бұрын
Turkish get ups are an excellent full body functional exercise. If you think they’re easy, you’re not using enough weight or you aren’t doing them correctly. I’ve watched some of this dude. I don’t know much about him, but he seems like a bodybuilder.
@tatertots00464 ай бұрын
He is just a bodybuilder, don't listen to him about anything athletic
@teamrgvbodybuilding17723 ай бұрын
@tatertots0046 he also has a PhD in Exercise Science and was a personal trainer in the past. What he's saying here applies to the vast majority of people with the vast majority of training goals. It can be a useful exercise for a few people in specific cases, but it's primarily a shoulder stability exercise, amd there are simpler ones out there that will still provide those benefits. If you like them, do them. Nobody is gonna call the cops on you for doing Turkish Get Ups
@AtechG352 ай бұрын
@@teamrgvbodybuilding1772Get off your knees bro. He's cool, but describing him as a juiced bodybuilder is accurate. And that is outside of what most people's goals are.
@teamrgvbodybuilding17722 ай бұрын
@AtechG35 most people don't have any goals that would be benefited by Turkish getups
@fbombtehgr3at2 ай бұрын
@@teamrgvbodybuilding1772Please go tell the thousands of practioners who follow the Simple and Sinister program that their Turkish getups are for naught.
@Pooh0Bear85 ай бұрын
I have to agree with the majority of comments. TGU is about stability and injury prevention. The common individual should be doing the TGU complex once a week. The more you age the more important the exercise becomes.
@xgamermudkip71545 ай бұрын
You could say that about 99% of exercises, I think what's important to remember is not to keep doing a specific thing as you age, but to keep doing things at all.
@elcee32925 ай бұрын
@xgamermudkip7154 100%. There's no magical exercise. Just work Full ROM, stay active, stay mobile.
@christianrios62954 ай бұрын
@@elcee3292it’s good to have an array of movements you can use for each joint to train mobility, though. But yeah it doesn’t necessarily matter what you do
@sandsand54834 ай бұрын
Tbh I always figured it was stability and strength in framing positions, but I'm too lazy to do anything except just training more or harder on the mats. For all my good intentions, I only tend to use my kettlebells for post injury rehab
@BigO1611074 ай бұрын
The only two exercises that’s important when we get older is sit-ups and full depth squats, other than that just be active.
@jacquep23634 ай бұрын
A huge aspect of wrestling is standing to base through resistance though… how else do people get up when someone is trying to keep them down??
@burny8904 ай бұрын
This dude pretty much hates on any type of functional performance training that is non traditional especially when it comes to work on stabilizers etc. It's a common misconception from the bodybuilding community that it's useless in sport specific training. It's the same reason everyone hates on Joel seedman too tbh. They all have just seen his most viral clips of his most complicated lifts but don't realize 90% of his shit is actually simplistic sport specific movements that clearly translate directly to the sports they play. This guy has even bigger of an ego than half the people he rips on for having one.
@s.m.pravin97386 ай бұрын
Strengthening QL, shoulder stability and mobility, training proprioception all left the chat
@lukathegameplayer15375 ай бұрын
You cant train multiple stuff with great effect at the same time
@s.m.pravin97385 ай бұрын
@@lukathegameplayer1537 so you'd do, suitcase walks, scapula windmills, mobility work, and a whole lot of other things instead of doing a Turkish get up? 💀 All the above mentioned benefits are supplemental to your main training. There's no point in taking specific time just to get better at the supplements
@lukathegameplayer15375 ай бұрын
@@s.m.pravin9738 No i wouldn't, but why train all those things if it's not associated with your sport, its pointless. If you want to get good at turkish get ups, do them, but for the vast majority of people it's pointless. You don't need extra mobility and flexibility to be healthy. You need to have a large amount of muscles mass, cardiorespiratory function and low body fat levels.
@jasonrogers83605 ай бұрын
Mobility and flexibility play a much bigger role in injury prevention that strength. Muscle for strength is great but without mobility and flexibility, even with decent cardio you're still not going to be truly athletic.
@s.m.pravin97385 ай бұрын
@@lukathegameplayer1537 you need to work on things like shoulder mobility and stability and strengthen your core if you wanna get bigger in the gym. You just cannot get bigger lifts by ignoring all these. You'll run into a brick wall very soon. You'll realise soon enough. You sound like someone with very minimal training experience. You'll have to work on all this to even get a 225 bench
@rollinOnCode4 ай бұрын
the turkish getup is a very comprehensive movement pattern- it is useful throughout pretty much everything. it is not just for technical standup but also in your ascend and descend, bridges, arches, punches etc
@zakazan85615 ай бұрын
The turkish get up tests lumbar stability and hip mobility while also providing a modest stimulus to the shoulder girdle. The unilateral load is also going to be working the contralateral QL / obliques as well. This kind of knowledge is what separates a scientist like Mike Israetel and a clinician like Aaron Horschig of squat university and it's why that if you're the average person, listening to Mike's advice is on the more dangerous side of things in terms of injury, since he's only interested in building muscle at the cost of health, which is also why he uses steroids.
@AntiTrollable4 ай бұрын
I agree as Mike seems to always refer to Hypertrophy or Stength training specifically. He almost never talks a lit neuromuscular development and control and dismisses alot of relevant exercises because they don't git his own narrative of what he thinks is important.
@MsKoffeinjunky4 ай бұрын
You are no way near any endrange for the hip, how can it test hip mobility? Lumbar stability... The weight is never offset more then shoulder width from your spine and is limited by what you can control overhead. So its as usefull for lumbar stability as an equally loaded suitcase carry, wich is super light.
@zakazan85614 ай бұрын
@@MsKoffeinjunky it tests hip internal and external rotation. The hip is a ball joint and adducts, abducts, extends, flexes, internally rotates, externally rotates. The Transverse abominis / obliques / QLs are put through some range of motion, which confers dynamic strength in the trunk as opposed to a static suitcase carry. Due to the position the body must be in to perform the get up, the moment arm is significantly increased on the lateral core muscles as you move your body around the weight.
@uexkeru4 ай бұрын
TGU is not a good exercise for obliques as your shoulder stability will be the limiting factor, not the core muscles, not the hips and not the support hand. There's a reason why when old time strongman manuals taught the TGU, it was a show-off feat. But when they taught two and one arm clean, snatch, press and squat, these were both feats and basic exercises to get strong, and a lot of those guys were more jacked than the guys doing TGUs or weird SquatU prehab while being terrified of slightly rounding their backs If old timers wanted to work obliques they had the one arm press, bent press (still not ideal) and calisthenic exercises like the human flag. All required a lot of body control.
@zakazan85614 ай бұрын
@@uexkeru Notice how I said modest stimulus to the shoulder girdle. I study sports physiology and physical therapy and I'm having a hard time understanding what you're talking about, unless you, much like Mike, are arguing from a pure muscle mass standpoint and not from an overall health standpoint, which includes training core stability, and is my point. You aren't understanding the underlying forces placed upon the body in the position of a TGU and how they relate to overall health vs just size. Also your lack of injury knowledge and experience is showing when you talk about people being afraid of rounded backs. Flexing the spine under compression causes delineation and eventual herniation of the vertebral disc, this is essentially settled and proven by Stuart McGill and his lab showing in real time with flouroscopy. Again, the difference between a researcher and a clinician.
@nickturner94764 ай бұрын
I see someone was trying to improve their "Thrust of Doom" technique. Absolute mad lad.
@MrHandsomeboynow4 ай бұрын
Hence, it’s functional training for keeping the shoulder stable. Who needs shoulder stability you may ask, everybody. Everybody needs shoulder stability.
@colet10963 ай бұрын
And not just the shoulders. It demands core stability through a dynamic activity taking you through multiple planes of motion, unlike most other core stabilizing exercises which stabilize in a static position. Mike doesn't know what he's talking about, and anyone who uses "Dr" without a clinical doctorate is a chode, and he seems salty because most sports physiologists wanted to go to DPT school and couldn't get in.
@nicholasferrer1565 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie shoulders feel great adding them, can feel my SITS muscles be worked. I believe Turkish getups is a versatile tool combined with strength training. I believe in Balanced training.
@uexkeru4 ай бұрын
They're great as a warm up to get a lot of stuff moving together. Not the functional strength miracle they're sold as by the kettlebell community, but they have utility.
@user-mg7eu6jk6k4 ай бұрын
@@uexkeruStability=strength. Compared to powerlifting movements it is absolutely superior in terms of functional strength.
@eyespy30014 ай бұрын
@@user-mg7eu6jk6kAs opposed to dysfunctional strength…? Non-functional strength? All strength is “functional,” since strength allows you to, you know, function properly and not collapse under gravity.
@gingerayyle6 ай бұрын
I like Dr. Mike for anything hypertrophy related but I feel like he has pretty L takes for anything athletics related and this is an unfortunate example of that
@DaTrixL966 ай бұрын
But he only talks in the context of hypertrophy and muscle building as the title says. In this case, he's 100% correct
@kConray6 ай бұрын
Isn’t he like a brown soon to be black belt in bjj? I think he knows more about strength, muscle and jiu jitsu than most
@qp92595 ай бұрын
@@kConrayThat us true. I will say though looking at how he moves on the mat, he isn't crazy mobile guy. He's a brick shithouse. Both of which are valid in jujitsu.
@jonlopez075 ай бұрын
I thought that at first too. Then I learned that hypertrophic training creates fast twitch muscles that are required for the athletic movements. So training for hypertrophy is the base for maximum athleticism.
@mfit71105 ай бұрын
@@jonlopez07no it’s not 😂😂
@tobygoodman91344 ай бұрын
Not sure I understand what he means by 'you never stand to base under resistance' in reference to BJJ. If you are on bottom and manage to create distance from your opponent, you will (occasionally) post/push on their shoulder or upper body to keep them away, while standing up, which can often mean pushing against some sort of weight/pressure. Therefore the TGU with weight is a great replication of this. Perhaps I misunderstood or perhaps the clip was edited strangely. Or maybe I just don't understand BJJ enough 😂
@HessianLikeTheFabric4 ай бұрын
The resistance when you stand to base is not even remotely in the same direction as in a TGU
@user-ze3sg6ix1u4 ай бұрын
@@HessianLikeTheFabric no shit, you're likely never going to ever replicate it exactly
@eyespy30014 ай бұрын
Look at it this way: if you want to train to be able to stand up with the weight of someone on your back, there’s an exercise perfectly suited for that- barbell squats. You’re never going to be in a situation where you’re going to have to get up from the floor holding a 45 lbs person over your head with one arm, so the TGU is a useless training movement for this specific application (and many others). There’s no reason to train shoulder stability while getting up from the floor.
@MaaveMaave4 ай бұрын
@@eyespy3001wait what, a squat is an entirely different movement. You flipped the situation from starting on back to starting on front/feet? You are imagining a very different starting scenario than I am.
@buffgarlichero4 ай бұрын
No you didn't understand, and you're completely right. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about
@LorenzKadounArt4 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear Dr. Mike and Joe Rogan argue about this since Joe loves this exercise.
@pandamilkshake4 ай бұрын
One of them is a doctor, the other isn't.
@gandoff78404 ай бұрын
@pandamilkshake one of them is a black belt in jiu jitsu, and the other isn't lol
@neinbruderja75194 ай бұрын
@@pandamilkshake in sports science, which for a reason makes his main profession being a youtuber. He's not an MD. And as mentioned not a black belt or even competitor. Let top tier athletes do their TGUs. You go hit chest trice on monday, back and bice on Wednesday and legs on Friday.
@ladislavzahnas76184 ай бұрын
@@neinbruderja7519PhD. is higher education than MD. Also MDs knows nearly nothing about exercise, so I would rather listen to someone who studied (and teached at uni) the sports science when it comes to sports. Mike has actually brown belt in BJJ, dunno how many times he competed, but he competed for sure.
@iaamara84342 ай бұрын
@@pandamilkshake Mike fanboys who listen to him like he is some omniscient entity lmao, stay Dyel
@ethanbalasco56185 ай бұрын
TGU is an amazing exercise. Yes, it sucks for immobile body builders like these two. But for an athlete who needs strength in positions like that. It’s amazing. Of course they hate it. Bro tried to lift his arm and it wouldn’t go over his ear… come tf on
@icemanstrange61855 ай бұрын
EXACTLY, THANK YOU
@tasbirmiah52475 ай бұрын
Wdym like these two? eugene just did it lmao
@kiing23135 ай бұрын
Bro he literally did it in the video and I’m pretty sure Mike has way more mobility than you🤣🤣
@GartB5 ай бұрын
I’m a former D1 football player, this exercise helped in no way at all.
@rohs94645 ай бұрын
@@GartBsure bud
@jtalmighty9474 ай бұрын
As somebody who used to be all about this exercise for 20 years, I provide a word of caution that people overlook; unless you are doing these on pillowy soft mats, you must put intense focus on getting the weight off of your down knee and onto the front foot. Otherwise you risk long term wear on your patella unnecessarily, which will cause premature arthritis. Whatever perceive core and shoulder stability benefits you perceive from this exercise can be obtained from half get ups just as well. If you’re going to do them at all, I suggest shouldered sandbag and front foot focus, so basically a sort of weighted sit up into a lunge.
@hansmemling23114 ай бұрын
do you know where I can find video of both the ways you describe to do it? I'm having a hard time just imagining it.
@jtalmighty9473 ай бұрын
@@hansmemling2311 I couldn’t point you to a specific video. The simplest way to think of what I’m saying is that when you to the kneeling position, be sure the bulk of your weight is on the front foot instead of the knee that is on the ground. 70/30 distribution is a good way to think of it. In my opinion not doing so beat the hell out of my patellas.
@hansmemling23113 ай бұрын
@@jtalmighty947that's good advice, I'll try that. Thanks!
@dadventuretv25384 ай бұрын
Bro be doin’ the Turkish Get It Up. 😂
@RakanXYZ6 ай бұрын
If it doesn't build muscle, then it's useless in the docs eyes. But let's say your practicing a handstand or a one arm handstand, that stability is great. Plus anyone that's tried this exercise will know the amount of CNS effort required. It's hard work! Maybe not the number one exercise for isolated muscle generation but I kinda feel it just works so many muscle that normally don't work together that often. You have a full body, experimenting with its uses and adapting to it is in my view just as important as sitting there and working isolated muscles groups and counting RIR.
@user-ge6yf1iy8n5 ай бұрын
it's a lot of hard work for no measurable results, why would I work hard doing that when I can get bigger or stronger by doing the same amount of hard work in more effective exercises
@kidathlete5 ай бұрын
@@user-ge6yf1iy8nThe measurable result is the improved stability and command over your body's movement while going through the stages of a handstand or any body movements where the stability is required
@RakanXYZ5 ай бұрын
@@user-ge6yf1iy8n somethings are not exactly measurable. Stability in an overhead position, while under high cns stress. Holistically if you're not a pure bodybuilder and want to be adaptable under different degrees of load, like I said doing hand stands this is useful. Training philosophy will vary, bodybuilders focus on strength/muscle pretty much but other facets include movement in different planes of motion, explosive strength, flexibility, injury reduction.
@MrHecksTraining5 ай бұрын
@@user-ge6yf1iy8n “more effective exercises” effective for what goal? I get what you and the doc are saying as far as a hypertrophy standpoint. If you are going just for bodybuilding, Turkish get ups are essentially a waste of time. If you’re looking for ways to improve your core brace and shoulder stability for improvement of whole body recruitment in something like a deadlift or squat, or even clean and pressing, Turkish get ups train that very well
@alh33285 ай бұрын
If you want to practice hand stands, do handstands. Start out with easier versions of the hand stand such as variations of foot on wall. Doing funky exercises shouldn’t be a replacement for this.
@nickturner94764 ай бұрын
A lot of core work to stabilize your spine while changing all those positions, rotator cuff muscle engagement, and lower and mid trap activation which is very important as stabilizers for shoulder movement.. As far as direct translation to bjj id say there are better exercises out there if you had to choose only 1 but its overall a damn good exercise especially if you use a barbell of some sort to increase instability.
@FunkyKikuchiyo5 ай бұрын
They always feel great on my back when I’m having posture issues, and it supplements other exercises well for core stability for me. I’m not an expert, but I like them and I’m keeping them.
@grahamsw24 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@Nvlutey275 ай бұрын
Is there any footage of Dr. Mike doing jiu jitsu? I know he's a brown belt, but I wonder if he actually moves or he's just a stationary object that can't be moved.
@edwhlam4 ай бұрын
Just go to his channel. There is an episode where he rolled with his BJJ coach.
@burny8904 ай бұрын
Bodybuilders have always been the weakest actual athletes I've ever seen tbh.
@Nvlutey274 ай бұрын
bodybuilders are not athletes@@burny890
@Nvlutey274 ай бұрын
neither are powerlifters btw
@NOMADKACF6 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. You’re better off doing alternating standing to base with a weighted vest.
@cems72588 күн бұрын
The inventor of this guy was a Turkish seal lile commando, who show this movement in a Nato training to Americans. He is a judo black belt and did weightlifting in his youth. He is around 70 years old now but still does crazy things. He also has a KZfaq channel called Namık Ekin.
@liamtinder49595 ай бұрын
No resistance?! I concur that it’s not necessarily vertical but you definitely can have your opponent putting their weight into you a more horizontal angle
@billaros10006 ай бұрын
Never got the craze with multi-movement exercises. Shit like lunge to curl to overhead press. You take great movements and combine them into something inferior. Just do them as a superset if you're hell-bent on doing them together. The tgu is special in the sense that the individual movements are kinda shit on their own too.
@beanhuang4816 ай бұрын
I would disagree. It really depends on your goal. If you want to just get big? then yes its useless. But if you want to be strong, atheletic, and mobile, then multi/compound movements are great
@billaros10006 ай бұрын
@@beanhuang481 You might have misunderstood me, compound exercises are amazing (squat, pullup etc). It's exercises where you do one movement and then an unrelated movement back to back that are stupid. Hard to load appropriately and with no benefit over some coordination maybe? but if the coordination is getting trained, you're not training your muscles. Getting stronger makes you coordinated anyway, but if you want more of that, just do a real sport. If you want to be mobile, use large ranges of motion
@FlorisGerber4 ай бұрын
@@billaros1000 but those movements in the TGU are not unrelated. Yes, the body has to do a lot of strange contorsions to allow the commplete grind of the shoulder rotators that the movement is made for, but since these movements are not that difficult, you can somewhat ignore them. Rotating your arm under pressure and keeping it stable is what the TGU is all about. The rest of the movement is about facilitating that. And gives an ok warmup.
@Barrrt2 ай бұрын
I love TGU but your comment made me chuckle
@sandorkoppanyi96186 ай бұрын
I think it’s easier to build an argument against an exercise that we all suck at rather than trying to get better at said exercise. I think TGU can be great for a lot of things, and a lot of those things can be trained completely separate from the TGU. If anything, I think TGU force you to focus throughout the exercise, combine a lot of angles not typically found in machines, can be a great workout all together, warmup, or cooldown.
@DaOGsCuz5 ай бұрын
He was talking about jiu jitsu
@jaysingh054 ай бұрын
Eugene just HAD to throw them thrusts in for this short! They actually fit right in w what’s being said about the exercise 😂😂😂👍👍💯
@treykream-un7eiАй бұрын
It’s a functional movement that is meant to take your body through every plane of motion while maintaining balance, stability and strength. It’s an awesome exercise
@jaimerochin28256 ай бұрын
I love this point of view just shows you how ignorant people really are whenever they themselves find no value when it could really be valuable for somebody else obviously the 200 lb body builder won’t find it necessary but for somebody with mobility issues and wants to move better it’s obviously a great workout
@moustachio3346 ай бұрын
It was also done by the same country known for its wrestling. I think it's good for core strength and preventing shoulder injuries.
@susanwojcickisnicetwin5 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's great for sexy time.
@audiewalters82755 ай бұрын
Do you think he would even disagree with you? I mean he clarifies in the video that he’s referencing BJJ athletes and the carry over to the sport. His actual take on this exercise I’m sure has more nuance than your strawman of him
@davidowens27385 ай бұрын
Well said
@drakothelost5 ай бұрын
Try no to be so mad next time
@kiffe226 ай бұрын
Every proponent of TGU ever would tell you that shoulder stability is the sole purpose of it lol.
@rayres10746 ай бұрын
Exactly. That's the only reason why SquatU mentions it in his book
@benchgoblin6 ай бұрын
read the article
@santyx_eorrr6 ай бұрын
just do OHP and get actually strong instead? with dumbbells if stability is a requirement
@kiffe226 ай бұрын
OHP will only ever work upwards pressing, regardless of using dumbbells or barbells. Arguably the least necessary direction of shoulder movement in everyday life. I'm not the biggest TGU fan ever but they are far from a stupid movement. In my experience people who call them stupid or unnecessary are usually too uncoordinated to get the movement sequence down correctly.
@santyx_eorrr6 ай бұрын
@@kiffe22 is it not established that a TGU is just an overhead hold?
@boahnation99322 ай бұрын
It's an extremely functional movement. Forces everything to work together perfectly. All exercises are good - do them all.
@ballisticvole4 ай бұрын
There's the armpit push side control escape and the x-guard sweep where you put their leg on your shoulder and stand up that are both basically the Turkish get up.
@SubmissionArmwrestling6 ай бұрын
Eugene has the best movements
@tylerchristian71135 ай бұрын
Turkish get ups are a great rehab exercise to challenge stability after a labral pathology
@christopherbaten54592 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this for almost 20 years!!!! Thank you Doc.
@liejeong5787Ай бұрын
“Limiting factory” they always say this to cope. The Turkish get up is not a strength or hypertrophy exercise. It is a full body stabilization exercise meant to teach the core and upper body to resist movement. Something vital for many athletes
@ferrasjr36534 ай бұрын
This guy also said we can only digest a maximum of 30g protein per meal.
@ZybbarsАй бұрын
Do you got the source? I Wanna see this.
@officialskillissue9206 ай бұрын
Good to hear some confirmation for my thoughts on this exercise. 🤷
@heartsfear9216Ай бұрын
Stand to base against resistance is Important for MMA fighters when they try to escape a mount position
@NiniskoMuellerАй бұрын
It improved my core stability in all directions.
@2jmajjic6 ай бұрын
Dont let chris jones see this 🤣
@mytruthslays13036 ай бұрын
Or Joe Rogan.
@pillmill89875 ай бұрын
As a personal trainer I've had multiple older women unable to stand to base. Weak shoulders weak core weak hips. The Turkish getup is the strongest way someone can stand up off the ground with 1 hand.
@HenchPig4 ай бұрын
No it isn’t. They need to learn the movement pattern of standing to base and get strong on squats and deadlifts. This silly bullshit is what keeps people weak.
@philclarke36604 ай бұрын
lmao, way to call yourself out on being a shit trainer. imagine getting weak beginners doing this shit
@slimefudge4 ай бұрын
After getting this b-roll showing me what the Turkish get-up is, I can definitely see its potential. I now endorse all and every Turkish get-up
@2crumbs13 күн бұрын
I do a lot of turkish get-ups. They are a brutal full body grind. Apart from the body control you learn, doing 5 L&R 4x a week has maintained my pushup strength and increased my strict press significantly.
@jnf22116 ай бұрын
Idk I think they’re good for a core workout
@jbrandona1195 ай бұрын
Way better workouts exist for your core that actually focus on the core and not also shoulder stability, balance etc. Do core workouts for your core.
@jnf22115 ай бұрын
@@jbrandona119 well yeah obviously. He was just saying Turkish get ups are useless and I was just saying they’re not completely useless
@DaOGsCuz5 ай бұрын
He’s talking about jiu jitsu
@zakazan85615 ай бұрын
@@jbrandona119 Most core workouts are concentric based. The way you use your abs throughout the day is to stabilize your lumbar spine. This generally means contraction at relatively long muscle lengths. There's a reason why exercises like hanging leg raises and reverse crunches are seen as better exercises than regular crunches or sit ups, because they also train the abs in a lengthened position. These concepts are also seen in bilateral and unilateral carries. If you are capable of performing a turkish get up with a large weight, you will likely not benefit much from core work if your intent is to build power / injury proof your back. Understanding why the abs exist and how the work is the key in understanding why the TGU is a good core exercise, especially for dynamic / athletic movement.
@Draenal5 ай бұрын
every single one of these clips where Mike dogs on something in a very specific comment get fucking lit up with comments talking about completely other contexts.
@audiewalters82755 ай бұрын
Unfortunately nuance and people in the KZfaq comments don’t tend to mix very well lmao
@truueindeedi5 ай бұрын
What's the context that he meant? Hypertrophy?
@FlorisGerber4 ай бұрын
well, if the clip does not contain the word hypertrophy, then it will show up for people that train the movement for other reasons. TGUs are really good for some movements, and this will for sure find its defenders.
@HessianLikeTheFabric4 ай бұрын
@@FlorisGerberThe people should learn how to read titles and descriptions
@MaaveMaave4 ай бұрын
@@HessianLikeTheFabricthe title is clickbait "Turkish get ups suck" and the description is also useless. Short form content just sucks
@tommytsunami49107 күн бұрын
Before i had ankle surgery, i trained pistol squats on my opposite leg and turkish get ups. Both movements made my life ALOT easier when i was in the cast. Every movement i made was built by training those 2 exercises
@snoopertrooper44683 ай бұрын
Why dont we all just agree that the TGU is a great exercise for shoulder mobility and shoulder prehabilitation.
@sacristar6 ай бұрын
I'm not a big proponent of the TGU, but I don't hate it either. These arguments against it however are pathetic. You don't stand to base against resistance? If that's your reasoning, then you might as well stop lifting weights all together.
@TheKbthakur6 ай бұрын
you lift weights to build muscles😅
@traceyallen43516 ай бұрын
I think he is trying to say our own bodyweight is resistance. So, yea, everyone "stands to base with resistance."
@sacristar6 ай бұрын
@@jayma733 did you even watch the video before posting yours?
@RS-pn9wu6 ай бұрын
I think Turkish get up is mainly core workout, it's not good for hypertrophy at all, but the various positions through the movement challenge not only the shoulder stability but the core too. (i hate the expercise btw)
@emmepi49454 ай бұрын
Turkish get ups was one of the main exercises i’ve done during the rehab for my shoulder injury
@normanlewis29534 ай бұрын
You can replace Mike's thoughts with ChatGPT that's programmed to say "unless it produces high tension in the stretched position, it's a bad exercise". Mike seems to look at everything through a bodybuilding hypertrophy lens. There's more to fitness than muscle hypertrophy.
@claybowman12426 ай бұрын
If you wanna test overhead stability do overhead squats, push presses and jerks
@hooshangmaster6 ай бұрын
coz it's not for jiu jitsu... it's for something else!
@pedromelendez94876 ай бұрын
What is it for
@Zahed93276 ай бұрын
@@pedromelendez9487core strength and mobility development mainly
@pjny214 ай бұрын
It's amazing how easily intuitive a lot of this advise is but we just continue to make things more complicated for our own egos, lol.
@j.l.59664 ай бұрын
I love TGUs. I’ve used TGU as a supplemental movement exercise for grappling and rock climbing for the past 15 or so years now. I’ll do variations of the steps from bottom up, to top down, with horizontal/vertical presses, swings, pulls, lunges, squats, jumps, etc thrown in. It’s definitely improved coordination and mobility for me. When I first started doing these with BJJ years ago, I went from feeling beat up after hard rolling sessions to feeling bulletproof. Plus I felt more “connected” with the proprioception improvement. It was like unlocking a cheat code. More so when I started rock climbing, especially hard bouldering sessions. As a 50 year old now, I can hold my own with them young whippersnappers. (BJJ brown belt & V8 boulderer/5.13 lead)
@ahmetbal59736 ай бұрын
I'm Turkish and just found out that this exercise is a thing 😂
@breedingpitmetal3 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with every word he just said and STILL a heavy TGU is one of my favorites movement, I'm not even sure why
@DlwinnerS1972 ай бұрын
Turkish get ups are what I used in physical therapy to retrain my entire body to work together after I broke my spine. I couldn't walk when I first had my surgery because my muscles had all become so deteriorated. Turkish get ups use the entire body.
@Barrrt2 ай бұрын
What I like about TGU is that it feels crafty. Like: it's really a skill. It's like a little project :) Makes me feel good about myself.
@namyac883 ай бұрын
“just get ripped and have body dysmorphia like the rest of us” lol
@djyakuza42184 ай бұрын
let me explain :) the tukish get-up was an exercise used by Janissaires to be used in battle for when you fell down and needed to get up quickly with a sword in your hand while facing the enemy and defending yourself.
@Will_B_Fit4 ай бұрын
Shoulder stability is the reason why ill use it occasionally. More fun than the other shoulder stability drills lol
@technopongКүн бұрын
It's a hyper-compound movement, not only does a challenge shoulder stability but engages the midsection core and teaches posterior engagement for the bridge. Come on, it's a great functional exercise, overall.
@TravisSmithlawyer4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I love Mike for his hypertrophy training insights. TGU's are not for hypertrophy, but nevertheless are excellent for developing core strength and healthy shoulders. Can't believe he says its his litmus test to determine if someone knows what he's doing. TGU is an amazing minimalist training movement for athletes.
@sakalaathletics4 ай бұрын
This is an exercise my physio gave me as a progression for rehabbing my shoulder.
@PixelKnightChannelАй бұрын
As a male dancer, stability in that position is really useful in lifting your dance partner
@xandr134 ай бұрын
As someone who does martial arts, I can tell for a fact that TGU helps - in fact you can REALLY feel the difference in these transition movements once you start doing it regularly. This guy often has some good advice, but just as often he really likes smelling his own farts.
@Nebelhom4 ай бұрын
I found the Turkish get up rather useful as an exercise for BJJ (old blue belt). The shoulder stability helped my frames and general robustness. Swings and get ups for the win. Drastically reduced my injury rate, especially for back and shoulder
@earlcollier41195 ай бұрын
It forces your body to adapt to a different stimulus to make yourself better, especially if somthing youre training for requires those movements.
@YTho-ev1ej5 ай бұрын
It’s good for shoulder stability and the serratus anterior. I think it helps with stiff arms in football, rugby, afl, Gaelic etc
@youtubecommenter68833 ай бұрын
It's a great exercise for shoulder stability
@Dsquaredforever4 ай бұрын
I like them as part of a warm-up routine. Good for queing the serratus anterior and core prior to pressing exercises.
@josephbishop32312 ай бұрын
It's a good exercise for warming up and mobility
@Gong-Fu_Hermit3 ай бұрын
I would use a lighter kettle bell that you could hold upright and not flopped to one side or the other. This will greatly improve wrist strength and stability if you are big into grip strength training.
@teddower4170Ай бұрын
TGUs are like advil for my shoulders. When I'm having shoulder problems, I do them and they help a ton.
@kettlebellmusclegain4 ай бұрын
I find forms of it wonderful to connect the dots on many strength based exercises. Especially if people only train sagitall based movements . Humbles people really quick. Show me someone who can do over 120lbs in a tGU and tell me they're not only stronger than most people but also coordinated and less likely to get injured often
@nordiclurtz35584 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Dr. Mike go on the JRE podcast. I know Rogan likes to do the turkish get up.
@MegaDjinn4 ай бұрын
The Turkish get up, if done as a high impact cardio exercise, forces the vadlscular system through vertical and horizontal modulation stress. This helps build up total cardiovascular health very efficiently.
@eleanef2 ай бұрын
The hip thrust tickled me so much 🤭😂
@tyler67224 ай бұрын
It may just be a bullshit placebo effect, but adding consistent TGUs has unfucked my body in so many ways. Posture is better and hip and shoulder pain has basically disappeared
@RaedVS4 ай бұрын
Kinda the whole point of them, really, Stability, which does carry over functionally to other lifts, especially Overhead.
@Carlosallouchimontero4 ай бұрын
They’re great for climbers who need to train shoulder stability which is usually against resistance on a climb
@max_of_all_trades4 ай бұрын
"It's just a circus act" - Well as a circus artist, I kinda agree. That being said, most of what I am doing is holding unstable weight above my head while moving and balancing. So actually, pretty useful if you are a circus artist.