Eurobike 2024 Hall 9: what GCN don't show you! A real bike show experience (Day 1)

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8 күн бұрын

This is day 1 of Eurobike with tech and gear that you can actually buy, from the brands that make it. A lot of the brands won't be widely known but this is how the bike industry really is.
Most of hall 9 is closed off for public viewing. Only trade and press/media are allowed in it. A lot of the western brands make deals with far eastern manufacturers.
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@Hambini 7 күн бұрын

Edit: Hot off the press. I just saw a load of guys from Classified come out a meeting with Wheeltop ( who make the electronic shifting)

@germurphy4986 6 күн бұрын

Wheeltop having a mare with their android app, and have priced themselves out of the market, especially with MTB

@Hambini 6 күн бұрын

@@germurphy4986 I think they are going to have a cut.

@Nephye 6 күн бұрын

they want to do the same thing than with trp ?

@ThePbiel 6 күн бұрын

Aren't Classified and TRP in bed with each other? Or is Wheeltop also somehow involved in their new groupset?

@mtanski1 6 күн бұрын

I like the previous version with removable batteries. But patents are the reason we can't have nice things. Can't believe you can patent removal batteries.

@daniels.2720 6 күн бұрын

Surprise to me that Hambini wasn't met at the door with some disgruntled bike manufacturers' Restraining Order.

@storegga 6 күн бұрын

nice to know you shit yourself too when someone shouts "HELLO HAMBINI FANS" from no where. cheers for the vid. hugely insightful for someone who's never been or seen these.

@theillegalimmigrant9314 6 күн бұрын

You know when you have made it when a large company won't let you test ride their cranks. It says a lot from Shimano.

@borano2031 6 күн бұрын

"A lot" means a stiff upper lip, not?? Rgr

@TraceVelo 5 күн бұрын

Aww dude I'm super jealous! I would have loved to mooch around some of those stands, maybe next year! Great coverage tho, that 3D printed carbon frames was WILD, and glad you bumped into the Qvist geeza, can't wait to see how that pans out...

@Hambini 4 күн бұрын

I think you would have really enjoyed it last year. It was a lot smaller this year. Much less tat

@AndrewTSq 6 күн бұрын

Those korean wheels looked incredible. 200g extra for looking that good is a no brainer. great work from whoever did them.

@basedgodstrugglin 6 күн бұрын

I’d be terrified to ride them, they’re absolute art

@thesoultwins72 6 күн бұрын

@AndrewTSq.......look terrible to me - but hey, if you are into 'bling', knock yourself out! [by the way - read my comment about 'hidden nipples' - an absolute recipe for disaster!]

@AndrewTSq 6 күн бұрын

@@thesoultwins72 for some reason, it feels like you work for another bike wheel company.

@johnmakin-shaw3516 5 күн бұрын

Absolutely love them! I need a pair of those in my life. I can lose 200g to compensate.

@kellrockets101 5 күн бұрын

I looked them up cause they looked great. Dang...they're crazy expensive.

@Rainaman- 6 күн бұрын

I didn't know they let in kids unsupervised! Thanks for your service Hambini!

@rg807 6 күн бұрын

Just because you're in public doesn't mean you should lower the volume of "HELLO HAMBINI FANS!!!"

@ssmtb 6 күн бұрын

Should have put on a hat and fake moustache to get a ride on one of those rental Shimano bikes

@basa1549 6 күн бұрын

Oh man..😂 they must love to see you coming to their stands! Keep up the good work!

@jamble7k 6 күн бұрын

the aliexpress aisle is the most interesting one

@micgalovic 6 күн бұрын

Thank you for showing us the show, like you see your hairdresser: nude and at her best and her worst. Never change Mr Hambini.

@max_coast 6 күн бұрын

whoa... those AVIIAV rims are flash!!! (weird ass company name, had to look that up) Props to them for acknowledging their prior reaming and giving ol' Hambini the time of day. That goes a long way in my book.

@Reanimator999 6 күн бұрын

There is another Korean bike frame manufacturer brand with weird name too. Wiawis bike. 😅 As Korean American living in the US, sometimes I cringe at their naming sense.

@Reanimator999 6 күн бұрын

Thanks for showcasing Korean manufacturers. I think too many Korean people buy $10k road bikes from well known western brands as entry level road bike. Ergonomic handlebar from Wheellab looks very interesting.

@benfinesilver2250 6 күн бұрын

If they only come in tortoiseshell, only the blind will buy those

@ColineRusselle 6 күн бұрын

Wrists are angled at about 19° but few manufacturers seem to understand that! good to see somebody who knows...

@CodSlap 6 күн бұрын

Uuh! Thanks for covering this stuff - love to see it! ❤ This is always the most interesting stuff.

@treyquattro 5 күн бұрын

OMG those bling Aldo wheels! I never knew I needed disco wheels...

@cyc1994622 6 күн бұрын

the hi-light titanium frame is crazy

@kcchiok 5 күн бұрын

it is awesome to have a user level reviewer into new players in cycling industry, thank you Hambini! great content!

@nickhutchinson9068 6 күн бұрын

Yes Hambini! Finally ❤

@zzod79 6 күн бұрын

I loved to see you in the background of the GCN Italy video from today 😂 (at min 5)

@zebounce 6 күн бұрын

you always seem like such a fun guy when actually interaction with other humans

@harryadams4070 6 күн бұрын

I have built wheelsets with KinLin rims over the years. Their rims are widely available through UK outlets such as The Cycle Clinic and Spa Cycles. As Hambini says, they are often rebranded.

@gLunchbox0346 6 күн бұрын

They're an OE outfit from southern Taiwan with a long history in the business

@djsonfire0001 5 күн бұрын

Great coverage on some sweet gear!

@Arfonfree 5 күн бұрын

Loved the view of things I don't normally get to see. Thanks.

@EnduroriderPl 6 күн бұрын

Thanks Hambini, bring some more and please show some MTB stuff 😊

@waichwaichpl 3 күн бұрын

Magicshine is making great lights 👌 highly recommended 👍

@chriswright9096 6 күн бұрын

I have Kin Lin wheels on an early 90s Concorde road bike hanging behind me. I believe they were the stock wheels. They are doing great.

@topulama3424 6 күн бұрын

need more of such coverage....

@lazlo2511 6 күн бұрын

Top tour…. Keep at it Sir

@felixjackson2670 6 күн бұрын

Love it. Been a huge fan of Ali Express…Carbon manufacturers etc producing decent alternatives to mainstream brands for past 12 years now. Especially after the biggest wealth transfer in history since 2020 ,has seen prices rise ,as Global Corporations make record profits…

@boriss.861 5 күн бұрын

Satchin a Proper walk around, Cheers!!

@SandSanta 6 күн бұрын

Does Shimano really hold a grudge? They seem to be down on Shane Miller as well. Its 2024, these guys need to get a modern brand manager.

@SprayIgniteBoom 6 күн бұрын

Thanks!!!

@GordonChaffin 6 күн бұрын

I just love the idea of random conference attendees wondering why that man was screaming into a camera.

@moobaz8675 6 күн бұрын

There's massive change in the bike market. Gone are the days of the large mainstream brands and their dominance.

@michaelbauer8778 4 күн бұрын

Why?

@michaelbauer8778 6 күн бұрын

One need to be fair and say that QA & QC is the problem with manufacturers siting in Halle 9, not the production itself.

@michaelbauer8778 6 күн бұрын

What’s the value behind buying carbon wheels for 300 and hoping it’s one of the good or it’s one of the bad ones? We shouldn’t play lottery with our body

@fixitfallows 3 күн бұрын

I've been riding those Powerway carbon hubs for the last 8 years. They have been absolutely great.

@PierpaoloBagnasco 6 күн бұрын

Please post more of these videos!

@nebulous962 6 күн бұрын

Finally some cool stuff. Was kinda dissapointed by the mainstream coverage. 🙂

@benfinesilver2250 6 күн бұрын

That was the most reserved “Hello Hambini Fans!” I’ve ever heard you say. Come on man, you’ve got to say it louder to piss people off 😂

@challacustica9049 6 күн бұрын

Good on you for showing these.

@aeonsnarfus 6 күн бұрын

Machined titanium hubs! ❤

@karstenmeinders4844 5 күн бұрын

The Aldo wheelset looks very bling! Also the other Korean stuff is quite intriguing

@kaseycarpenter73 6 күн бұрын

Never knew I needed mother-of-pearl rims

@abedfo88 6 күн бұрын

1:05 Powerway, always had a soft spot for them. I had the PHR 36 hub you're looking at on a pair of Superteam rim brake wheels back in like 2016

@thesoultwins72 6 күн бұрын

@2.30..........'hidden nipples' are a really bad idea IMHO. Erosion is pretty much inevitable due to the egress of water inside the rims [ie: rain, washing bike etc]. I experienced this with a set of Reynolds wheels - pretty much every time I went for a ride a spoke would break. Have steered well clear of internally fixed nipples ever since.

@bosrey7807 6 күн бұрын

Free the nipple...

@ATICrossX 5 күн бұрын

Exactly, not everything should be made to look "better"

@user-sx6dr1cw8y 6 күн бұрын

5:50 the mtb frame in the background looks nice and classic

@raphaelklijn6358 6 күн бұрын

Very interesting.

@olo398 6 күн бұрын

cool stuff

@shepshape2585 6 күн бұрын

You're right, GCN will never show any of this stuff, which is why it's important that you and others do. Cycling needs to be something that's available to more people, not just elitist douchenozzles with $10,000 burning a hole in their pockets. Thanks for the video.

@sloops4398 6 күн бұрын

I guess the big brands payed extra that public is not allowed to visit this area otherwise the customers would see what pricewise is really possible

@PBabel-ne3hc 5 күн бұрын

Well, self-deserved, if you follow Specialized & co.

@michaelbauer8778 4 күн бұрын

@@sloops4398Bro. Why creating fake news. Hall 9 including 9.0,9.1,9.2&9.3 are all visible, public visible and are directly adjacent from the main entrance 🤣

@DS-xg9kf 6 күн бұрын

Superb

@cosinus_square 5 күн бұрын

1st company to make a rear derailleur which pairs to both Shimano and Sram will make so much money. By the way things are going, it's only a matter of time.

@danielesavi1969 Күн бұрын

We await the reaming of the new Rondo Ruut by our trusted five-year engineer!

@yohansharp3040 6 күн бұрын

Nice, didn't know you were going

@benene055 6 күн бұрын

Hambini danke für deine Videos! Ich habe vor einigen Jahren einfach mal angefangen, ein Rennrad selbst zu bauen auf Basis eines 80er Jahre Rahmens und im Laufe der Zeit, in der ich mir alles selbst beigebracht habe, bin ich auf deine Videos gestoßen. Immer toll informativ! Dank dir habe ich wirklich viel gelernt.

@sloops4398 6 күн бұрын

Da sieht man vor allem das die wirklich interessanten Stände für einen Endverbraucher gar nicht zugänglich sind was die Eurobike noch unattraktiver macht als sie eh schon ist.

@michaelbauer8778 4 күн бұрын

@@sloops4398warum soll Halle 9 nicht zugänglich sein? Sie ist direkt neben dem Straßenhaupteingang 🤣 Naja, für dich ist die Erde wohl auch ne Scheibe.

@firesurfer 6 күн бұрын

Is that bafang frame specific or is it bosch compatible? 9:51 I wish you could have given a decent look at the fender/box carrier.

@event4216 6 күн бұрын

I've just returned from ALDI and they swore no wheels are available

@AlexRochette 6 күн бұрын

What watch are you wearing?

@RK-kn1ud 6 күн бұрын

You should carry a kitchen scale in with you next time.

@sloops4398 6 күн бұрын

What was the printing time for the frame and how long does it normaly take to make this frame?

@aliancemd 15 сағат бұрын

Throughout the video I kept thinking “what is the warranty on this?” - lots of new manufacturers that make anything and everything but leave customers hanging once there is any issue with the things they make.

@strobelightnetwork4541 5 күн бұрын

GCN is for Cat5 cyclists and for those who drink Specialized cool aid, thank you for the feature boss man.

@Handletaken4 5 күн бұрын

Are there bikes there which fit properly and don't go 12" to the side with each pedal stroke and crash on perfectly smooth roads?

@stevenfenech2320 Күн бұрын

What are you trying to say,is it about geometry? Im interested in such nuances.

@raulmarquez5485 6 күн бұрын

Wow… mother of pearl on the Korean rims; very extravagant! Were you followed by any men in black? 😂

@Hambini 6 күн бұрын

I've been trying to find them.

@borano2031 6 күн бұрын

@@Hambini They probably lost their way. Hired by Shimano, I´d guess..... Rgr

@davidcharnes3623 3 күн бұрын

“At least I didn’t break my leg on one of their cranks.”

@Metal-Possum 6 күн бұрын

Luke at Trace Velo is awesome, that Aliexpress stuff can be more than reasonable. As for Kin Lin? They've been going for decades, Taiwan's answer to Araya perhaps (who were ubiquitous on lots of bikes in the 1980 and early 1990s)

@peterkulczycki6244 6 күн бұрын

Rolling piece of art eh?! Marketing overload.

@CycleXplorer 5 күн бұрын

Their fear when you approach the stands 😂

@Ropetable 6 күн бұрын

Did you check out the lightbicycle stand? i hear they have new polymer fiber spokes

@WHTFSayonara 6 күн бұрын

Bafang is said to finally release m560 750w publicly at Eurobike. Please go take a look and ask how they have (if they have) solved the noise problem! Also I'm literally been building my LightCarbon LCE971 this week! Should have shown more of the booth so I could have seen if anything new out! Let me know if you see or know of Koozer Xm490 Pro hub! I have bought them to test!

@nigelliam153 6 күн бұрын

Can you do something on the 3d printed frame please. How do they get the strength without the matting?

@8o8ertmtb 2 күн бұрын

I'd love to know what he thinks of Atherton frames.

@DanTuber 6 күн бұрын

6:05 what material is the 3D frame made from?

@Hambini 6 күн бұрын

They were quite cagey over it and simply described it as carbon. I think it's a carbon mix with something.

@DanTuber 6 күн бұрын

@@Hambini Can carbon be a liquid?

@amduser86 6 күн бұрын

at work we use nylon filments that a reinforced with carbon fibres. since you only heat it up to about 90°C, the short carbon fibres keep theire structure and reinforce the printed structure. it is not as stabil as pure carbon fibre products, but way more flexible. those frames look similar to the stuff we produce for rushed prototypes ...

@philadams9254 6 күн бұрын

Kinlin rims are insanely good. My alloy clinchers are 1100g!!! Did you see Waltly at all? I heard they were there this year.

@joonkt3483 6 күн бұрын

What you said is very true. I've 2 different types custom built with power way hubs and pillar spokes (dbl and also triple butted). Really light, strong, smooth riding and stays true

@strobelightnetwork4541 5 күн бұрын

Alloy clinchers for 1100g? I don't believe you, my 2005 Zipp 202 tubulars are 1050g.

@joonkt3483 5 күн бұрын

@@strobelightnetwork4541 I've a pair (clincher) at 1370 grams (excluding skewers) custom built with power way hubs and triple butted spokes. They are strong

@philadams9254 4 күн бұрын

@@strobelightnetwork4541 It's legit! Kinlin XR200 rims - 380g! The braking surface is good but tends to wear down fast in the wet UK winters though.

@iann23 6 күн бұрын

Ray's business card is beautiful

@seandelacruz4872 6 күн бұрын

Hello Hambini what are your thoughts on the exar budget db50 base series wheels

@richardbartolo8754 6 күн бұрын

Lmao... The first hubs you look at are what are on my bikes. A buddy of mine hand builds wheels using those hubs. I have multiple sets of wheels with +10000kms of use with absolutely no issues.

@mrwhiteshorts 4 күн бұрын

Mr Hambini, I have a round tube road bike that i try to go fast on. Which is fastest from a drag pov? no bottles, 2 aero bottles or 2 massive bottles to try to fill up the frame space? cheers. m

@michaelbauer8778 4 күн бұрын

Training

@petef15 6 күн бұрын

Hambini hello - Hambini video Hambini hello followed by pumping beats - peaktourque video

@terenceprieto3964 6 күн бұрын

thank you. cool products. shhhhhhhhhhame shimano.

@sloops4398 6 күн бұрын

So the area which is really interesting is not allowd for public. I am really lucky that i haven't visited this event since a long time. Even back when it was in Friedrichshafen there have been more E-Bikes then real bikes so more like IAA to me.

@michaelbauer8778 4 күн бұрын

It is accessible for public.

@lovemesomedetail 6 күн бұрын

3:30 who else supplies h-works or whatever that was called?

@johnandrews3568 5 күн бұрын

This review... it didn't suck.

@user-nw2si7hu3u 3 күн бұрын

You’re a good man sir ❤

@nickturner4150 21 сағат бұрын

I want a full carbon hardtail MTB frame with a titanium bottom bracket shell in the molding, so I can stick a mid drive motor on it without it getting chewed up. Did you see anything like that?

@madyogi6164 6 күн бұрын

2:20 Oh these are beauties!

@amfinc2 6 күн бұрын

The Powerway hubs are old, I've had those on my rim brake bike for about 3 years. They are good hubs though.

@_Zane__ 6 күн бұрын

At least with the electronic shifting its probably easy to remap the shifting buttons 😅

@pierrex3226 6 күн бұрын

Is L-TWOO there? I'm told they were on the list, then disappeared a few days before the show. They won't honour the warranty on er9 groups I bought from them. I installed 5, 3 broke, 1 is barely working. They replaced only 2. They ghost, they move the goal post, really terrible experience.

@shawndaiki 6 күн бұрын

Would you have any concerns about riding a 3D printed carbon frame as compared to traditionally made ones?

@selder03 6 күн бұрын

Those Light Carbon frames look nice. Also, those 3D-printed Ti frames toward the end. Who was the manufacturer?

@borano2031 6 күн бұрын

Look closer at the end at the clip of these frames... Rgr

@Handletaken4 5 күн бұрын

I'd love to see a hub with a catalog of replacement parts so when it blows up the bike shop can fix it.

@meinAliasfuer2024 5 күн бұрын

I am riding 12-15k - never had „blown up hubs“ so far 🤣 also cheap DTs do not „blow up“ … do not buy crap!

@paulgrimshaw8334 6 күн бұрын

Ha ha. This is where the sausage is made. It would be fascinating to spot upscale brand reps having ad hoc business meetings with bargain basement manufacturers.

@mogulmayhem 6 күн бұрын

mother of pearl

@TrickyTree84 6 күн бұрын

Did you say flash or gash?

@benfinesilver2250 6 күн бұрын

The narrow bar is great… but you can get a 20cm gap for free. Any bar bangs in that far. That’s what I personally do.

@conradspamer2077 6 күн бұрын

you just go on crashing until it's perfect?

@batesady 6 күн бұрын

Wonder how balanced those bling korean wheels are with those random looking custom mother of pearl inlays?

@Dfgoodall 4 күн бұрын

Hworks. Can you enlighten me as to who they supply? DT Swiss by any chance. I’m sure they also supply the FarSports RD hubs?

@madyogi6164 6 күн бұрын

1:20 That 88 g. carbon front hub looks light! I wonder what's the price? For half a year I searched hub to repair my old wheel and found old-stock new Bitex RSPF, 16-spoke, full aluminium, scale showed 96 g.

@borano2031 6 күн бұрын

Powerway are good to deal with.. Rgr