Eurofighter vs Su-35 Super Flanker: Long Range Missile Fight | DCS

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@hemendraravi4787
@hemendraravi4787 Жыл бұрын
can u try with r37 aswell?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rN6nZdV7vs6weaM.html
@davidb1565
@davidb1565 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work and to your partners for their patience.
@DripsDrop
@DripsDrop Жыл бұрын
♥️
@Editzify
@Editzify Жыл бұрын
yoooooooooo 50 dollars wow
@Emma15969
@Emma15969 Жыл бұрын
£50 is a lot of money for a KZfaq donation.
@davidb1565
@davidb1565 Жыл бұрын
@emmanuelcostume3098 That's for me to decide.
@Emma15969
@Emma15969 Жыл бұрын
@@davidb1565 I didn't mean anything by it, I've never seen so much money donated by a single person on KZfaq.
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 Жыл бұрын
I think the phrase you're looking for is a " open source conjecture". You guys put so much effort into this anyone with a mind has got to love these videos. Violet does give me an idea though. Once your dead, you could "respawn" as an AWACS controller. The Typhoon is wicked!!! Can't imagine how awesome the Tempest will be if they get into service, and on DCS!!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yup ofc it's all conjecture but best we can do.
@charlietheunicorn5383
@charlietheunicorn5383 Жыл бұрын
A special shoutout to the coding/modelers, keeping DCS packed with new goodies. GR keep bringing the new and exciting scenarios to DCS daily.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Well done CH! (coder)
@2001TMA1
@2001TMA1 Жыл бұрын
The difference between the ASRAAM and other short range AAMs is that the ASRAAM is actually more of a medium range BVR AAM with a range significantly in excess of 15 miles. It is generally reported that the range is roughly in the range of the first AMRAAM, i.e. about 50km. This also matches the maximum range of the Typoon's IRST quite well.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks, that seems to tally with our version actually. We managed to get over 20 miles with it.
@TheAmbex
@TheAmbex Жыл бұрын
"Get a new one." Fucking gold lol
@jeremyparker9749
@jeremyparker9749 Жыл бұрын
Grumps A-team reference was my highlight haha enjoying the effort the teams putting in on modeling these bew missles, excellent work!
@WyvernFalken
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
😉
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Lucky SOB
@xenaguy01
@xenaguy01 Жыл бұрын
40:24 _"Get a new one. 🙄"_ 😄😆😅😂🤣 45:43 _"I just smashed my face into something, cuz _*_Super Cap."_* 😄😆😅😂🤣
@jinhowong9634
@jinhowong9634 Жыл бұрын
Grump sounds like he has superior tactics.
@davidb1565
@davidb1565 Жыл бұрын
Love it 🙂. Got to respect the effort the Grim Reapers are putting into this.
@13deadghosts
@13deadghosts Жыл бұрын
Nice and interesting video, as always :) The reason why meteors seems to have so much fuel and burn for ever is probably because they have indeed much more fuel. A traditional rocket needs to bring both, its own fuel and oxidizer, meanwhile an airbreathing rocket engine can dedicate all of its tank to fuel, as the oxidizer is basically free, being the air. If you have two similar rockets, one being air breathing and one tradional, with similar engine profiles, the air-breathing one will always outrange the tradional one, provided your flight envelope is entirely within a suffiecent atmosphere during the engines burn. This makes this engine basically ideal for A2A missile, but crap at something like an ICBM Interceptors, because the engine will not work in space. But anyway, just my 2ct. Personally I can't wait for the EF2000 module by HB :D Their IRIS-T implementation will be interesting to see, as they stated that they are working with Diehl Defence and that it will be very close. Because I would be very interested to see the shoot-180°-behind-you capability and the ability for the IRIS-T to act as an Hardkill-APS vs A2A Missiles. Just reading the infos on the missile, it sounds nuts :D Anyway, enough ramblings and have a nice day :)
@therealdebater
@therealdebater Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. A missile that can turn 180°. Well, obviously, nothing could go wrong with that :-D
@eduardokarlos1419
@eduardokarlos1419 Жыл бұрын
The turbojet engine on the rocket makes it much heavier, and despite the longer phase of the engine, acceleration and maximum speed at the start will be much lower than in the classical scheme. + The increased mass and section of the hull will also affect the range. Not to mention the practically non-existent maneuverability of such a missile.
@13deadghosts
@13deadghosts Жыл бұрын
@@eduardokarlos1419 Not really, the Meteor uses a solidfuel ramjet not a turbojet, this negates basically all of the downsides you mentioned. Turbojets aren't really feasable for Mach 3 and beyond. It is still extremly maneuverable, only 20kg heavier than the R-77M and actually abit smaller than it (5cm longer but a 2,2cm smaller body diameter than the R-77M). So non of your points apply here. If it were a cruise missle, you would had some points, but then we would be comparing apples to oranges.
@13deadghosts
@13deadghosts Жыл бұрын
@@therealdebater The missile no longer knows where it is :P
@eduardokarlos1419
@eduardokarlos1419 Жыл бұрын
@@13deadghosts In this case, I can conclude that the rocket in the video is completely fictional. At the moment, no one has yet invented rockets with a solid fuel ramjet engine. No more questions, thanks for your help
@RowdyDavido
@RowdyDavido Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the weapon pack! Great work cap.
@Stinger522
@Stinger522 Жыл бұрын
Grump was like Tom Brady in the way he was directing his team when they had the Typhoons. The Flankers got sent to Meteorville big time. The part when Grump ate that Meteor from nine o'clock high was definitely a highlight moment from Team Cap. That Meteor came down like the hammer of God. If I was a bandit and was told I had Meteor shooters coming my way, I would just bail out. Running for those monsters is useless. A big thanks to the people behind the performance enhancements of the missiles. We couldn't've had this battle without them.
@OscarZheng50
@OscarZheng50 Жыл бұрын
that super flanker makes the eurofighter look small
@PhillioDoede
@PhillioDoede Жыл бұрын
Love the combination of well thought out serious war games and outright batshit craziness, keep it up!
@totalnerd5674
@totalnerd5674 Жыл бұрын
Nice new Su-35 Cockpit!
@nathaniellazo5912
@nathaniellazo5912 Жыл бұрын
My bet is on the Eruofighter, despite the fact that the Su-35 is a very capable platform. Keep up all the videos. Can't wait for more simulations ranging from 1v1's to war games and fleet battles.
@Editzify
@Editzify Жыл бұрын
Same these videos are so entertaining and a good learning space if you would like to learn about dcs or real life missiles
@skatman3278
@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын
New Meteor looking great! Thanks guys!
@weirdgin9158
@weirdgin9158 Жыл бұрын
Can't help but hear "Irish Tea" when talking about IRSTs.
@therealdebater
@therealdebater Жыл бұрын
40:27 Every now and then ;-) GR has one of those magic moments, when it all comes together. Thank you, all.
@WyvernFalken
@WyvernFalken Жыл бұрын
40:20 🤣😂🤣😂
@DripsDrop
@DripsDrop Жыл бұрын
Oh how the tables have turned 😂
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
nerd!
@disturbeddude123
@disturbeddude123 Жыл бұрын
sheeesshhh super flanker kinda nuts innit
@memoredspectrum
@memoredspectrum Жыл бұрын
thank you for videos, my words are meaning real love
@DDtch6669
@DDtch6669 Жыл бұрын
I've watched these videos so many times that last night In my dreams I heard "Hello valued viewers I hope you all are doing wonderfully well" :D
@ChopsTwo
@ChopsTwo Жыл бұрын
34:59 the fuel capacity of the meteors seems realistic to me, considering that they look like shipping containers
@JakeInaitor5000
@JakeInaitor5000 Жыл бұрын
I loved that "9 o'clock high" on grump, idk if there was even anything could do if you knew it was dropping directly on your head.
@markstott6689
@markstott6689 Жыл бұрын
That was a fun set of missions. There was some good flying from both sides even though the Flanker was missile limited. Group Captain Grump was as well organised as ever. Rear Admiral and The People's Champ was unable to overcome missile limitations. It's good to see Violet being aggressive, although to be fair, that's her normal state of mind. I dread to think what she does with real enemies. Probably eviscerates them whilst drinking a good quality Chianti. Sadly, Damp's popping was severely limited today. No doubt he'll explode later. As for Matrix, he's just generally awesome. I imagine on return to base he breaks out the Port and cigars. Likely with a Labrador at his feet by an open fire. Thanks GR.
@jaxompol224
@jaxompol224 Жыл бұрын
Grump: get a new one ...... he he
@shaneduc
@shaneduc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video looked liked it was fun. SU-35 is a sweet airframe.
@MrMosabSOmar
@MrMosabSOmar Жыл бұрын
love the 2 perspectives
@nick4819
@nick4819 Жыл бұрын
The missile altitude problem is not just a "short coming" but a major issue. It's completely changing the physics of the weapon system. Sure, you can lower to drag to keep the speed up to half-ass simulate the loft but now you are also changing the parameters of being defensive against it. I'd wait to do all of these videos until you can accurately make the missile loft otherwise you are just going to have to recreate them anyway. I mean, I guess that's some job security for a few days anyway :P
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
As has been Said countless times and is done to death they can’t model the lofting so they do it the best way possible, loft or not the way you defend is the same notch and drag it down. Loft or no loft it’s the same exact procedure
@nick4819
@nick4819 Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar They are changing the drag values on the missiles as well as speed. Since they can't loft, they are completely changing the physics of the missile to make it achieve what it would do if it were able to loft. Except now, when these missiles are down in denser air and should be bleeding energy....they aren't. Why? Because they've altered the drag to make the "no loft" work. It isn't the same at all. While what you say is true, the way of defending is the same, the results shown are not. Distances are changed, missile engagement distances are changed, it's speed it changed, it's ability to chase a defending target is changed. Missile tracking is changed. They change all of these values to make the missile achieve the impossible because it's stuck at lower altitude. This is a very crude way of showing these systems but are in no way even close to reality or even the sim for that matter.
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
@@nick4819 the missiles perform poorly in dense air as the should the changes they’ve made are more complicated than what you’re saying
@nick4819
@nick4819 Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar But they don't. It doesn't bleed off correctly and they've had to "dumb" the missile up to make it half ass work and be fair. They can't make it bleed correctly because they are stealing its energy by not lofting correctly. So to compensate, they make it perform unrealistically to accommodate for the capabilities they lack in programming it. It's not even close to being realistic. It isn't their fault but these videos are a waste of time if realism is what you are wanting.
@jameshodgson3656
@jameshodgson3656 Жыл бұрын
The motor on meteor seems a little bit too strong, it's nearing mach 4.5 in that first AI battle.
@martinpalmer6203
@martinpalmer6203 Жыл бұрын
not to mention the max range is nowhere near that
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
Blue tint smoke for U.S. Missiles!😅👍
@thegenericguy8309
@thegenericguy8309 Жыл бұрын
The ai missiles going for flares is because the ai has artificially buffed countermeasures
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
oof
@thegenericguy8309
@thegenericguy8309 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers it's also why you'll notice really advanced missiles going for chaff when the AI use it. it's a holdover from AI being really bad at defending missiles, but now that they're somewhat decent it just makes them infuriating to fight.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
One F-22 Raptor and One F-15EX about 80-90 miles behind VS 20 North Korean MIG-29's BVR F-22 Raptor engages bandits first then F-15EX joins in supporting the Raptor from miles away with a wall of either AIM-120D's or AIM-260's lol and or a combination of both if possible!😆🙏
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
Blue tinted smoke for U.S. missiles please!🙏
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
Or you could do one round F-22 and B-1R!! Then one round F-22 and F-15EX!!😅
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher Жыл бұрын
Look at the size of the SU-35! Quantity has a quality of its own writ large. AWESOME!
@eduardokarlos1419
@eduardokarlos1419 Жыл бұрын
Why is the Su-35 PESA radar in mod? In reality, he uses H036, which is AESA, which allows him to track the target when deviating from it up to 150 degrees and at a greater distance.
@mr.mysterious713
@mr.mysterious713 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it use the Irbis-E radar? So far only the SU-57 uses the N036 Byelka radar
@eduardokarlos1419
@eduardokarlos1419 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.mysterious713 It was difficult to find the video, on KZfaq the wrong opinion is deleted. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJl0mpqWnba2doE.html The work of the Su-35, after the launch of three R-77-1s, it can be seen that he turned almost 90 degrees, only H036 can do this.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Neg, Su-35 uses No11 Bars PESA.
@eduardokarlos1419
@eduardokarlos1419 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers But this is a complete misconception, I understand not agreeing with H036, although I threw off the evidence of its use above. But at least 35 uses H035 Irbis for sure
@eduardokarlos1419
@eduardokarlos1419 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Figured it out. 35 has Irbis-E, a standard PESA X-band, but additionally 2 L-band feeds are installed in the wings, already AESA
@voradfils
@voradfils Жыл бұрын
42:42 the dreaded 500 knot missile that never stops... According to best publicly available expert opinion, the new meteors are designed to be shot downhill. The reason for this will escape most casual observers but it only makes sense if you've ever tried riding a bike whose chain skips.
@Stinger522
@Stinger522 Жыл бұрын
@Voradfils. It makes the Meteors PK even greater?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Coincidently the GR versions are pretty crap when shot from low level. Need 40k ft.
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын
“I hate baddies that think” 😂🤣…me too
@jacobbaumgardner3406
@jacobbaumgardner3406 Жыл бұрын
ASRAAM was designed for long range. The stated to be 50km while the IRIS-T and Aim-9X are 25km (public estimates). ASRAAM’s history is interesting, but the basics is that it has a larger motor and it designed for longer ranges.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
thx
@jacobbaumgardner3406
@jacobbaumgardner3406 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers yeah, I’m deaf. Missed it obviously being stated in the vid.
@Akendesuu
@Akendesuu Жыл бұрын
wasn't the su-35 radar is like a hybrid mix of pesa with some aesa capabilities iirc ?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
I think they put a Bars radar in it. Our one us basically 95% as good as AESA anyway so almost no difference.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
F-15EX's with AIM-260 JATM's VS Typhoon's with Meteor's!
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
Blue tinted smoke for U.S. missiles please!🙏
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Got something similar planned.
@0ate5y
@0ate5y Жыл бұрын
Is that a scale image of the two together? Quite a bit bigger.
@LostBeagle
@LostBeagle Жыл бұрын
Oh boy. This should be good
@Eo_Tunun
@Eo_Tunun Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Typhoon is a supercruiser. Mach 1.5 to 1.8 on dry thrust are the numbers I remember reading.
@DisgruntledDisabledCombat_Vet
@DisgruntledDisabledCombat_Vet Жыл бұрын
Cap, if the rules didn’t say anything about landing down in the mountains, I would’ve landed if I saw on the map that they’re applying pressure from high up, but sticking far out to sea trying to bait everyone on coming out, because it’s almost impossible to notch that FOX3 when they’re high up, and staying at max range. The weaknesses of the missile is its acceleration, being fired from max range at cruise speed, and only great at mid to long range. If the missile is fired from its max range, and your natural instinct is to go immediately defensive, it will probably hit you based on how the person responds, and what altitude they are at with terrain. If someone has shot at me from max range, I’ll just turn around if I’m cruising at high altitude, because it will run out of fuel trying to catch up with me, and I can do a dive down low while turning around to notch even if it’s still got fuel. if you have a great AWAC and/or situational awareness on the altitude/trajectory that the missile is coming from, then it’s possible to pull off a high G turn, or pull up 90 degrees while rolling left or right. Just make sure that you’re able to visualize or calculate the best angle to pull a high G Maneuver to do what I call “ tropic thunder” or aka “full RheeTodd” which you’ll just barely get hit by the missile. I wonder if a very agile high thrust fighter could notch the missile without issue by timing a high g maneuver based on the direction of the missile is coming from at the last second.
@SoDevious
@SoDevious Жыл бұрын
Man this game looks so beautiful with my new card.
@henrygibson9613
@henrygibson9613 Жыл бұрын
Hi Cap, Regarding USN future airwings Battle Order did a really good video on what it may contain. In short: .16 F35 Cs .28 F18E/Fs .5-7 EA 18 G .5 E2D .5-9 MQ5 stealth UAV refuelers .3 CMV-22Bs .6-10 MH60 Would be interesting to see in a Naval Fight against China as I'm guessing they would also operate an approx. 55% combat plane mix too. AKA 32 J15s.
@Editzify
@Editzify Жыл бұрын
Hey cap i was wondering if you had any estimated time for when the weapons pack would be released or if It will ever be public
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
honestly, it's got a bit out of control. Is growing to ridiculous sizes and no idea where this is going to end.
@Editzify
@Editzify Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Ok Because i would like to use these missiles for more accurate fights like what you do but if they never get released I understand
@2bidfilmsguy
@2bidfilmsguy Жыл бұрын
Hi guys just to let you know the CAMM missle family has active radar homing and does not use IR guidance
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks. We plan to model this missile so will research it properly.
@EmmettDia
@EmmettDia Жыл бұрын
That R77 is in service developed for the new Felons idk about flankers
@OG_Mac79
@OG_Mac79 Жыл бұрын
I think it is time to change Caps name from SuperCap to Captain Slow he flies like James May drives lmao now we need a Jezza and a Hamster lmao
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
lols
@strambino1
@strambino1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job cap! J15 VS Super hornet will be a good matchup in this scenario. Comparing the difference between AIM120D armed Super hornet and AIM260 armed Super hornet VS J15 armed with PL15.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
rgr
@Wintelburst
@Wintelburst Жыл бұрын
Small advantage can end up to be huge!
@zahnatom
@zahnatom Жыл бұрын
are you also going to be modeling the IRIS-T's motor with its different stages of thrust? it should do high thrust to get away from the launching aircraft, then less thrust to allow it to turn a lot and then higher thrust again to get to the target.
@BBCRF
@BBCRF Жыл бұрын
Там двигатель не работает
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
I have no idea TBH will ask dev.
@Shanex250
@Shanex250 Жыл бұрын
The eurofighter module being developed is my most hyped about thing for dcs at the moment cause its something non US related with super good performance that has good missiles. One can only hope we actually get meteors and not end up the way the mirage is in that it's stuck with short range "medium range" missiles because we don't have a modern version of it.
@t1ger-112
@t1ger-112 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Eurofighter is in my books the best jet of all time, but i play red side on servers as i love the Russian flankers and mig-29 and there just isnt anything redfor has to fight it. It's just going to break the multiplayer game side of the sim, and i think most servers just won't use it at all till a FF mig-29 or r77-1 is added into the sim. I can't pretend like i'm not hyped to buy it for single-player the minute that module comes out though lol EDIT: this is for BVR to be clear as that's what i love, it will be amazing for air-to-ground PvE servers as there's no human to be mad on the receiving end in a terrible jet lol
@jetfighter200
@jetfighter200 Жыл бұрын
@@t1ger-112 a FF Mig 29 still can´t win against an full EF2000 module with meteors if the russian missiles stay as they are now
@t1ger-112
@t1ger-112 Жыл бұрын
@@jetfighter200 i kinda meant with the 77-1's sorry unclear by me, yeah lol a 80's tin can with speed aint gonna do anything else better than the current one. Im not even considering the r77-m cos that's new and in service and won't be official for a long time
@jetfighter200
@jetfighter200 Жыл бұрын
@@t1ger-112 i'm kind of hoping that the EF2000 will kill modern multiplayer setting BVR/Servers...because then hopefully ED will be forced to give the red side similar weapons/modules to take on the EF2000...without new missiles being added red pilots only seen in the cold war era servers
@Shanex250
@Shanex250 Жыл бұрын
@@t1ger-112 they will still use the plane in servers and ED will most likely nerf the range of the missiles as they do with all of them to be more in line. My one hope is they stop putting every plane on blue side with the cop out of putting f16s on red. The eurofighter would be an amazing plane to put on red to put some variety out there. I honestly believe they put all the planes they do on blue side on just the notion that they don’t want to deal with them if they are a blue side player. I am a red side player aswell and the only thing we got going for is the JF-17 full fidelity wise outside of the f-16 and the sometimes f-14a.
@ocelotthewise7120
@ocelotthewise7120 Жыл бұрын
Cap, I love these videos, especially the war games, but I keep wondering will you ever release these mods such as the aim 120d and aim 260? I love making missions to play with friends and for my own entertainment and it would be awesome to be able to use these mods for that.
@bacco0447
@bacco0447 Жыл бұрын
i think that rn the mods are in such a raw state that they can't really be published, but im sure that once they have a more polished version of all the mods we will have access to them
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yes but it will be months away. Lots more to do.
@bacco0447
@bacco0447 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers I can't imagine the amount of effort you guys are putting onto this, great work to the whole team
@kirov181
@kirov181 Жыл бұрын
Hey Cap, how can I install that Su 35 mod? Is there a link?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
The su-35 dev has withdrawn it until they re-release. Ours is a private version, sorry.
@_b0ws3r_
@_b0ws3r_ Жыл бұрын
@Grim Reapers @Cap The METEOR will ALWAYS be above Mach 1 in order for the engine to continue to burn. A RAMJET engine uses the sonic boom created by breaking Mach 1 to function. If there is no sonic boom, the engine will not function. The propellant used in the solid rocket motor was designed so it is powerful enough to get the rocket above mach1 so the RAMJET can take over regardless of altitude.
@Hot1765
@Hot1765 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to redo US carrier group vs WW2 battleships this time using LRASM
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Sure
@joli22
@joli22 Жыл бұрын
oh yeah! nice!
@neogenmatrix6162
@neogenmatrix6162 Жыл бұрын
Cap, can you model the new missiles after the old AIM-54 as it lofts in the game. Seems to be the only on that does it.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Sadly no. AIM-54 s a core game missile, it has access to lofting. Non-core game missiles like ours do not have access to loft, hence you have to use your imagination a bit.
@claudiovic9883
@claudiovic9883 Жыл бұрын
ASRAAM should have a maximum range bigger than R-74, it was done thinking in range despite maneuverability (but yes, it can pull like 50Gs), having little and few fins, not using TVC and a rocket engine that boost it to mach 4 shows it :v
@d.thieud.1056
@d.thieud.1056 Жыл бұрын
If the AMRAAM went subsonic it's ramjet would no longer work as ramjets only work supersonic, or at the very least transonic. Though I think the misisles would go to full throttle if it threatened to fall bellow Mach 1 because it would be better to have it blow it's load of fuel early than let it fall subsonic and flame out
@BBCRF
@BBCRF Жыл бұрын
Прямоточный работает только на сверхзвуке
@d.thieud.1056
@d.thieud.1056 Жыл бұрын
@@BBCRF it's possible to get supersonic airflow through the combustion chamber without having the vehicle travel supersonic, so it's theoretically possible for a ramjet to work subsonic, it would be wat less efficient to do this than to use a turbofan though, and it's unlikely the meteor is capable of this.
@zahnatom
@zahnatom Жыл бұрын
yeah i think its a lot faster down low irl than it is here right now
@shaunreid6851
@shaunreid6851 Жыл бұрын
The Meteor is in service, they 100% have way more than 10 of them in service.
@IRONIC1688
@IRONIC1688 Жыл бұрын
Great flying and concept as usual. One thought. About the SU35 typical AO that is defended by a thick multilayered SAM network, this can level the playing field a bit, I think an S400 might be able to intercept the Meteor, and RWR radars can provide additional datalink donation for the Flankers and the R77s even after a loss of an A50. I find that the only way to survive missiles like that is to turn and burn, the SU35 has no reach at the moment by itself, but as a part of a full array it can do better. And the Mig31 with the upgraded R37 would be a worthier opponent for the Meteor.
@paweoboj5753
@paweoboj5753 Жыл бұрын
SAM intercepting a2a missile... C'mon man you cannot be so stupid.
@paweoboj5753
@paweoboj5753 Жыл бұрын
+ R-37M is overrated as hell. According to RUSI, VKS in October 2022 uses 6 R-37M daily. So lets make math. From October to June you have 9 moths. So 9x30x6=1620 missiles!! Even half of this number is extraordinary number. And what is probability of kill the UA Su-24, Su-25, Su-27 or MiG-29 with obsolete RWR SPO-15 berioza and stupid R-27 SARH missiles? Check the Oryx. I think below 10℅. And remember that not every shoot is R-37M. Remember that is against old soviet fighters, but Eurofighter is a beast with 0.1m2 of RCS, Praetorian DASS with modern ELINT, ESM, ECM capabilities. You have ECM, chaffs, towed decoys and SRAAM missiles able to shoot down this missile (remember that R-37 is over 600 kg big cow with 8 g's pulls, so shooting to very agile and modern fighter from +200 km is very stupid idea, because this missile gliding to the target and is easy to avoid or shoot down because of low kinetic energy and speed in terminal phase).
@paweoboj5753
@paweoboj5753 Жыл бұрын
+ I'm very sceptic about Su-35 capabilities. Of course they're way better than Su-27, but for me is still a mystery why fighter with estimated 1-3m2 of RCS, powerful IBRiS radar, theoritically modern ELINT L-150 Pastel, Kh-31P and ECM khibiny have problems to gain air superiority on UA against soviet SAMs, that Russians should perfectly understand from technical point (you know pros, cons, characteristic etc) so that's why I'm not sure if Su-35 is as good fighter as most of military aviation fans thinks
@markstott6689
@markstott6689 Жыл бұрын
Dear Cap, there is one slight problem with red and green smoke. If you're red green colourblind, like me. You struggle to see the missile smoke correctly (code for I can't). Is there any chance of making one of them blue?
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
I believe USA is blue
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Good point Mark. Will pass onto CH.
@markstott6689
@markstott6689 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Many thanks. It's appreciated.
@EpicAsian-pj8zr
@EpicAsian-pj8zr Жыл бұрын
Does the SU-35 mod still exist? the videos link to missing files
@gael2846
@gael2846 Жыл бұрын
You should try the Eurofighter vs the Mig-31
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
OK
@Wintelburst
@Wintelburst Жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering if meteor motor will choke it self from air while making huge turns?
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Жыл бұрын
Ramjets dont really choke from too much air as the airflow inside is already supersonic, they can choke if the airflow falls below Mach 1 though.
@vincentvalerio915
@vincentvalerio915 5 ай бұрын
Where can we get the pack for the typhoon
@theclassicliberal1915
@theclassicliberal1915 Жыл бұрын
Are the Aim120Ds available to the public?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Not the GR versions not yet.
@MM-oq6yd
@MM-oq6yd Жыл бұрын
The only picture of R-77M on su-57 shows two variants possibly one two pulse motor version (the one in the game but that would keep fuel to accelerate at the end on the target thus the two pulse) and one with a ramjet (could also be scramjet since they love hypersonic missiles). End speed of the r-77M is much higher than shown in the game because it would burn the second part of its rocket engine to go pitbull at full speed on the target making evasion impossible. Also, Russians made the r-37M a standard missile also for the su-35. All their combat sorties are done with r-37M.
@bacco0447
@bacco0447 Жыл бұрын
maybe instead of reducing fuel on meteors make then turn off the engine under a certain speed since it's a ramjet and needs to be AT LEAST supersonic
@d.thieud.1056
@d.thieud.1056 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this, a ramjet only works when there's supersonic fluid going the combustion chamber. Though I think of the missile threatened to fall subsonic it would ramp up to max thrust again because it would be better to blow it's load early than suffer flame-out, and irl these missile would have enough computing power to rub a complex program that takes into consideration many situations the missile may run into.
@bacco0447
@bacco0447 Жыл бұрын
@@d.thieud.1056 yeah exactly idk if it's possible to do in dcs tho
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
You can have supersonic airflow while flying subsonic it’s quite common actually but other than that you are absolutely correct
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
VERY interesting point. I will pass this onto CH. My instinct is that this is not poss yet in game but will investigate.
@bacco0447
@bacco0447 Жыл бұрын
@@Utubesuperstar yeah but i think there are limitations to that, for example i don't think you can induce a supersonic flow whike going 50 kts, also ramjets can *theoretically* be started with speeds just above 100 kts but they don't produce any significant thrust until you are in the low supersonic and reach peak efficiency at around mach 3
@class.C
@class.C Жыл бұрын
Not sure if the smoke tints are all that necessary tbh
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
They are mainly for the huge 100 vs 100 battles we do.
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 Жыл бұрын
30:20 I mean rocket motors are really inefficcient compared to jet engines, so kinda realistic
@lenn55
@lenn55 Жыл бұрын
Does GR still do ARMA 3 without Cap now?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yes they are still doing it but I'm not making vids obviously.
@MkD_SENS
@MkD_SENS Жыл бұрын
day #4 of asking for hornet dogfights
@jinhowong9634
@jinhowong9634 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a AIM-260 vs METEOR video? but all in all from this and the previous videos it seems like the meteor is already better concept wise than the 260 as it stands in my opinion.
@princefares7084
@princefares7084 Жыл бұрын
Now that's interesting can you replicate it with mig31 with R37M Axe vs Meteor 2.0
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Actually that will be a really good fight!
@seeker1609
@seeker1609 Жыл бұрын
Lol.. su 35s never even tried to dodge the shots
@GG_Wolves
@GG_Wolves Жыл бұрын
Could the RAAF defend against a attack from the Chinese on either land or sea
@Utubesuperstar
@Utubesuperstar Жыл бұрын
Lmao absolutely not, tho america and Japan would come help and then turn the tide
@TheNecromancer6666
@TheNecromancer6666 Жыл бұрын
Modern Block? So a Block 4 Quadriga? That's the most modern one. But only Germany has ordered some so far. I mean Duh we, by now, exclusively own and build them.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Yup B4. Strangely in UK colours... weird I know.
@greybuckleton
@greybuckleton Жыл бұрын
I would quite like to see these fights without the AWACS. Of course then that brings the impossible question of the capabilities of all these different radars. But your good with impossible questions.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
The GR missiles are all designed to be guided on Datalink, they tend to not really work without AWACS.
@greybuckleton
@greybuckleton Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers well ok fair enough. Great work regardless.
@neanderthor66
@neanderthor66 Жыл бұрын
Any more Carrier Command in the works?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Sadly viewership of CC2 dropped to unsustainable levels so had not choice but to stop.
@neanderthor66
@neanderthor66 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers That's unfortunate. I know it can be slow at parts, but it built up to exciting fights.
@danielbronks4234
@danielbronks4234 Ай бұрын
Meteors are a game changer.
@memelephant
@memelephant Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by not having 10 of them built? Haven’t they been in service for like 6 years
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
They turned out to cost nearly $4m per missiles, so no one dares actually buy them. I've never seem a real life EF with them on, even for real life Russian intercepts. Problem with these new missiles is they are too $ to use. Russia's R-37M is the same. They made like 50 of them.
@memelephant
@memelephant Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers cool, thanks for letting me know
@yuy389
@yuy389 Жыл бұрын
you should really state your sources for this type of thing
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
It's all wiki and similar.
@shayblair591
@shayblair591 Жыл бұрын
Black and white ones
@sulyokpeter3941
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
AIM-132 (ASRAAM) have a speed of mach 3+. It was designed to be a fast, long range missile. It is quite realistic to be fair. Deadly missile. METEOR once again, one of the best BVRAAM. Superfast(Maxing out around Mach 4.5 - Mach 5), super maneuverable, super long range. Absolutely disgustingly good missile. Eurofighter Typhoon. One of the best 4th (4.5th gen) fighter in the world. It is in the top 5 now in 4th gen. For now. Iam not suprised how good it is.
@alecmvp
@alecmvp Жыл бұрын
So the British wanted a R-27T??
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
yup
@TheNecromancer6666
@TheNecromancer6666 Жыл бұрын
You should probably use the IRIS instead of AIM 132. Its arguably more capable and its used by more Nations. Also ASRAAM is a MBDA product, its European. The IRIS is a product of Diehl AG and is a Result of the German LFK NG program. Its not European its German.
@Rover200Power
@Rover200Power Жыл бұрын
Nope. "As prime contractor and project coordinator of the multi-national IRIS-T program, Diehl BGT Defence leads the European industrial consortium comprising Germany, Greece, Italy, Norway, Sweden and Spain. Subcontractors from the participating program nations include Saab Bofors Dynamics in Sweden, NAMMO in Norway, MBDA-IT, LITAL, Magnaghi, Simmel in Italy, SENER, ICSA and EXPAL in Spain, INTRACOM, HAI as well as HDS in Greece. Each program partner has unrestricted access to the project data."
@jamison884
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the latest development accomplishments. While you're using the best data available to any of us in the public, I honestly question the Meteor a bit, merely due to how it is treated. For example, before the AIM-260 was announced as passing internal testing and heading to full-rate production/fielding during 2023, I couldn't help but wonder why the US wouldn't simply throw a lot of money at mbda for the Meteor and acquire it, even if it was purely as a stop-gap missile. Even now, if it is so effective per all indications, why wouldn't the US want to purchase this with or without the AIM-260 as an option? Surely, it would be best to have two great missiles with different methodology (and therefore overall characteristics) in order to achieve top level performance in modern air-to-air conflicts. It even has F-35 integration already, so there's no real factor preventing the US from having two top-end radar-guided missiles if they wanted. It's also not even brand new technology, as the first ramjet missiles were deployed in the 1950s. Cap, do you have any idea why the US wouldn't buy Meteor?
@jamison884
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
As a follow-up thought, I went back to basics. Why is the Meteor good? High elevation engine reliant upon high altitude. As soon as the missile is dragged down by the altitude of the target (nearing terminal phase) as the missile decreases altitude, it would lose essentially all thrust below a relatively high altitude due to the oxygen mixture no longer being the proper ratio in addition to the thicker air. If I had to guess, this model is way more complex in the real world and isn't accounted for properly in DCS (I don't blame you, that's why this stuff is still classified and mysterious). Given those details, I'd put the confidence factor (of the Meteor being modeled properly per the real world performance) at the lowest rate overall for any ordnance in DCS.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 8 ай бұрын
There was an airfield near to Ukraine where the SU-35 jets were totally wrecked.
@nori8627
@nori8627 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the size difference of the aircraft…I wish Eurofighter was developed into naval version…
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Жыл бұрын
Yeah would have been cool but because they didnt factor it in the start it would have been an expensive redevelopment. Just think of the Rafale as a navalised Eurofighter as it was part of the same development program.
@nori8627
@nori8627 Жыл бұрын
@@watcherzero5256 You are right that French was part of the development I think in the beginning. I thought Eurofighter was a size of F15, but is smaller than super (slow) Hornet..
@kamov52510
@kamov52510 Жыл бұрын
If the meteor is air breather shouldn't you fly up?
@martinpalmer6203
@martinpalmer6203 Жыл бұрын
METEOR... max range 200km , you have it at 230km, a bit optimistic dont you think?
@shayblair591
@shayblair591 Жыл бұрын
PLZ SUPER CAP.I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THUNDER DOME WITH THE AIR COW BLIMPS. 🐄 PLZ PLZ PLZ FOR SIENCE
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Blimps in TD? Interesting...
@draigygoch
@draigygoch Жыл бұрын
ASRAAM has imaging infra red, flares are pretty useless
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Agree. Will fix.
@ccbb6387
@ccbb6387 Жыл бұрын
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