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@NameExplain
@NameExplain 3 ай бұрын
Do you speak any of these non-European European languages?
@Donald_Trump_2024
@Donald_Trump_2024 3 ай бұрын
havent watched yet but have you mentioned Romani? i am gypsy and have some knowledge of the language, although very limited
@Donald_Trump_2024
@Donald_Trump_2024 3 ай бұрын
oh nevermind you mean Indo-European, not originating from Europe. i am dumb
@13thk
@13thk 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I am a native Turkish speaker. Bakalım biliyor musun hiç?
@Roope00
@Roope00 3 ай бұрын
I'm a native Finnish speaker.
@oh2mp
@oh2mp 3 ай бұрын
@@Roope00 I'm a native Finnish speaker too. Torilla tavataan! :)
@modmaker7617
@modmaker7617 3 ай бұрын
Indo-European languages aren't natively European. The only single still living native European language is Basque.
@lotgc
@lotgc 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but even the basque speakers had to come from somewhere. People don't just grow out of the ground, so asking where a language is native to is kind of a bad question...
@modmaker7617
@modmaker7617 3 ай бұрын
@@lotgc So by that logic all languages are natively African as we humans originate from Africa.
@lotgc
@lotgc 3 ай бұрын
@@modmaker7617 sure, but on the other hand you can also say that all the descendants of Indo-European are equally as native to Europe as basque because they did not come from outside of Europe. English is from England, Spanish from Spain, and so on, but the child is not their ancestor. You see what I mean? It's a poor question
@LAOCHPadre
@LAOCHPadre 3 ай бұрын
What about Albanian?
@tomasvrabec1845
@tomasvrabec1845 3 ай бұрын
Indo European languages are native to Europe just as old European languages. Simply because Indo European languages originated north of Black sea, north of Caucasus, in today's southern Russia and mainly west of the Urals.... It's called the Pontic-caspian steppe. Hence they litteraly are native to Europe, just not all of Europe. In an essence Basque is native to western Europe whilst Indo-European languages were native to eastern Europe. They started to dominate Europe around 2000-3000 years ago and they also managed to migrate towards India and middle east. Hence why Anatolia had largely Indo European speakers, as well as much of north and north western middle east including Persia and north-western India. The early Indo Europeans simply expanded the same way how Uralics, Mongolians, Turkic people and later Semetic people expanded through flatter open trains into and around middle east.
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu 3 ай бұрын
Not to forget Kalmyk, a Mongolic language spoken in the Western coast of the Caspian Sea
@deweypatch
@deweypatch 3 ай бұрын
There's also two families in the Caucasus besides Kartvelian, creatively named Northeast Caucasian and Northwest Caucasian. These families include Chechen and Abkhaz, respectively.
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 3 ай бұрын
Kalmyk, interesting.
@craigcook9715
@craigcook9715 3 ай бұрын
Basque is also traditionally spoken in parts of south-western France (not just in Spain as mentioned in the video).
@thefrench8847
@thefrench8847 3 ай бұрын
Basque is a Language Isolate.
@Bn9776
@Bn9776 3 ай бұрын
Where outside of the circum Pyrenees area?
@gabork5055
@gabork5055 2 ай бұрын
Also it's surprisingly similar to Hungarian (Kannada too, the name Indo-European language family makes no sense when a non IE language is more similar than it is)if you check a lot of basic words and word structure. Sentence structure-wise it's probably different from any other language though.
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
@@thefrench8847 Plenty of those i.e. Korean but most in europe are extinct i.e. Etruscan and they lived in Italy before being exterminated by the romans
@herptek
@herptek Ай бұрын
​@@gabork5055Basque language has no relation with Hungarian language, although neither are Indo-European. Hungarian is an Uralic language. Basque language is a remnant of the paleolithic Europe before from time before the arrival of Uralic and IE languages into the continent.
@jasminekaram880
@jasminekaram880 3 ай бұрын
All those languages developed and are spoken natively in Europe and thus European. You confuse Indo-European with European and IE languages are spoken natively in Asia as well.
@LincolnDWard
@LincolnDWard 3 ай бұрын
European is a subfamily of Indo-European (the other being Indo-Iranian)
@jasminekaram880
@jasminekaram880 3 ай бұрын
@@LincolnDWard No, I mean maybe the branches of Europe descend from western dialects of proto-Indo-European which to various degrees influenced each other, the language family is not divided into a European super branch, the branches spoken in Europe like Germanic are treated like their own independent branches. At best some theories group Italic and Celtic into a Italo-Celtic group arguing that the two branches had a more recent common ancestor than Proto-Indo-European.
@karinano1stan
@karinano1stan 19 күн бұрын
he used "european" as a simplification, he explained it in the beginning of the video
@Ants-ed3vl
@Ants-ed3vl 3 ай бұрын
I literally screamed when you mentioned Sana (Cypriot Arabic), it's crazy to see ppl even be aware of it, let alone mention it
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 3 ай бұрын
I’m happy to see so many people saying that it is nonsense to say those European languages are not European just because they aren’t Indo-European.
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
Its a very poor statement to make, yes. I suspect its deliberately controversial to generate views
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 ай бұрын
I think the premise is a bit weird. Indoeuropean most likely originated within what we consider modern Europe (Black Sea steppe), but so did Uralic and, considering there's no evidence against it, Basque. The former is just considered the default due to its huge dominance. So the only ones that are actually "Imports" from further away are Arab/Maltese (Arabia) and any Turkic languages (Central Asia).
@LincolnDWard
@LincolnDWard 3 ай бұрын
He's not saying these languages are necessarily imports; he's just saying they're not in the European language subfamily (within the broader Indo-European family)
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 3 ай бұрын
Even the Turkish languages are originated from europe... Mainly, just like the Uralic speakers, they where here before IE peoples arrived from Anatolia, and push them to east. They are later just came back.
@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit 3 ай бұрын
Also that one Mongolic language in the European part of Russia (Kalmyk).
@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit 3 ай бұрын
@@xerxen100 got a source for that claim?
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 3 ай бұрын
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit Etrusceans, Minoans, Hatti peoples. They were both speaked West ugric languages. Turkish speakers came from the ugrics mixed with Mongols.
@karelianmghow9095
@karelianmghow9095 3 ай бұрын
The premise that Indo-European languages are somehow inherently more European than the languages mentioned here is just completely false. They have originated much farther away from Europe than say, Finnish for example. The only reason they are considered more European is that the majority of the continent speaks one of them as their native tongue. And the majority always seems to be right.
@Langwidere903
@Langwidere903 3 ай бұрын
Came here to say this. These languages are European, because their native speakers are Europeans. They’re just not INDO-European.
@netsong2239
@netsong2239 3 ай бұрын
Well, I'm not saying this makes any language more or less European but the Proto-Indo-european language was quite literally spoken in Europe, north of the Black and Caspian seas and between them. At least this is the most widely agreed upon theory. All of this while the Uralic languages can most likely be traced much further away in a much shorter timeframe. (A modern view places Oroto-Uralic east of the ural mountains with the spread of its western branches to europe after 2000 bc.)
@anowarjibbali
@anowarjibbali 3 ай бұрын
@@netsong2239 Well, Basque and Georgian also developed in Europe
@augustuscaesar8287
@augustuscaesar8287 3 ай бұрын
​@@netsong2239You're right bud, but you're about to trigger the zealots that try claiming """""P.I.E""""" was spread from Anatolia or India. There's a lot of them on KZfaq, and they're not good at debating without ad hominem and strawman.
@norielgames4765
@norielgames4765 3 ай бұрын
​@@anowarjibbaliyeah, it refers more to Turkic and Uralic languages. Basque and Georgian are natively European. In fact they're more native to their local region than the European languages surrounding them. Spanish came from the Italian peninsula. Spanish does trace it's origins north of the black sea, in Europe, so still European, but locally, the Basques are the natives and the Spanish are the migrants. But I mean they've been there for more than 2000 years. You can't scoff at that and you can't tell them to what? Go back to Rome? Go back to the black sea?
@TheRapist1708
@TheRapist1708 3 ай бұрын
How isnt for example finnish "not european" language if it has been in europe before "indo-europeans"
@Dhi_Bee
@Dhi_Bee 3 ай бұрын
7:50 Basque is also in France, not only in Spain. But I still enjoyed this video
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 3 ай бұрын
The French government doesn't recognise it and it will probably soon die due to lack of use in France anyway.
@Panambipyhare
@Panambipyhare 3 ай бұрын
What happens is that France finds it difficult to recognize Basque as a regional language, something that does not happen in Spain, where it is official in its autonomous community
@craigcook9715
@craigcook9715 3 ай бұрын
LOL, beat me to post this by 9 hours!
@ericshimizukarbstein6885
@ericshimizukarbstein6885 3 ай бұрын
@@Panambipyhare France is one of the few European countries that keeps not recognizing their population other languages. Both French Basque and Occitan have zero support from France as a country. It's sad this situation, and if it keeps going, we may lose an entire language a few dialects of another language in the long term
@Yoshi-wt4lg
@Yoshi-wt4lg 3 ай бұрын
​@@ericshimizukarbstein6885i feel like for the common good this was a better thing to do
@brillitheworldbuilder
@brillitheworldbuilder 3 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the Caucasus gave origin to not only one, but three completely independent language families: South Caucasian aka Kartvelian, Northwest Caucasian aka Abkhazo-Adyghean and Northeast Caucasian aka Nakh-Dagestanian. The latter of the three is by far the largest of them in number of languages and includes for example Chechen. Oh yeah, and then there's Kalmyk, a Mongolic language spoken in European Russian Kalmykia
@Saturinus
@Saturinus 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, he forgot the Northwest Caucasian and Northeast Caucasian families, which are spoken in areas that are definitely within Europe.
@zephyrna6249
@zephyrna6249 3 ай бұрын
Have fun with the research on the "how Uralic Languages Ended up in Europe" video. Im Hungarian myself and not even we can come to an agreement on where we come from and how we got here. Linguistically its very complicated. And it leaves people making wild guesses as to the origins of and migration route of Hungarians. For example, in the modern standardized Hungarian language, we definitely have "relative" words with Germanic, Slavic, Turkic, Latin, and Persian languages. But in what order we picked them up and when is heavily debated. Some will say we are actually a persian language originally, while others will say we are a long lost Indo European branch. I suggest you do your own research and be weary of people who write about the subject for political reasons. However, from doing my own research, I have reached my own vague conclusion: 1. The Proto Uralic people who's branch would eventually become the Hungarians lived in central/northern Siberia and are likely the relatives or originators of the Saami, Khanti, Innuit, Native Americans, etc. Possibly the Mongol, Korean, and Turkic people as well but its all very vague and fuzzy that far back in time. 2. Eventually during the Indo European migrations to India, the migrators must have had some form of connection or contact with these "proto uralic" people. As many of the most archaic terms for horse husbandry and nomadic life originate from Eastern Proto Indo European. And it is likely that here some Proto Uralics must have adopted the lifestyle where others didn't. Becoming distinct people over time. Enter the Proto Ugrics. 3. Next in our linguistic history, we have words for numbers (like hundred and thousand) as well as various agricultural terms including beer, being of Persian origin. How these fit into the story is anyone's guess but due to a few myths and legends of Hungarians being connected to Persia, I believe that at some point the Proto Ugrics must have migrated down into Persia. Where they must have stayed for a considerable amount of time. 4. Next we have Turkic and Slavic words appearing in our language. More modern words for more modern items. It is likely that this is when the Proto Ugrics, who may have branched into just the Magyar tribe, appeared in south western Siberia. And mixed heavily with the various Turkic tribes of the area. 5. Finally we reach recorded history and know that a coalition of 7 tribes led by the Magyar chief Almos (and later his son Arpad) migrated into Ukraine and finally into the Carpathian basin where Hungary exists today. What is not for certain is the background of the many tribes. It is likely that they were some mixture of Ugric, Turkic, and possibly Persian or Mongolic tribes. And the impact they had on the modern Hungarian language as a result is hard to quantify as a result. 6. German and Latin words for the most modern terms appear. And there is no question that Catholicism as well as the very close relationship the Kingdom of Hungary had with Austria and the HRE had a large impact on this. I hope you find this information useful, and I encourage you do a considerable amount of research and be careful of your sources. I wish I could list my own sources but I constructed this theory from years of sporadic research. Though if Im right your own research will confirm my understanding. If not, well then Im sorry for wasting time.
@CocoSon-zj5oj
@CocoSon-zj5oj 2 ай бұрын
What are you doing here? You try to adapt the history of the Hungarians with the Indo-European languages, your hypotheses based on Hungarian legends, making them less credible by putting non-Indo-European languages ​​as the basis of their formation. The Albanians, with the proximity of their language to the Etruscans, seem to me more credible than the Ugric and Turkic Basques. 😗
@MemesterTheMaster
@MemesterTheMaster Ай бұрын
​​@@CocoSon-zj5ojread the last 3 lines and don't discourage the man, even though going from Siberia to Persia for no goddamn reason is a big ahh plot twist ngl
@IntoTheVoid1981
@IntoTheVoid1981 2 ай бұрын
Hungarian, Estonian, Finnish and other Uralic languages are all European languages, as the overwhelming majority of linguists and archeologists place the birthplace of the languages west of the Ural mountains, in Eastern Europe. That makes these languages technically paleo-european languages just like basque. But everybody seems to forget about this. Just sayin.
@isabellacatolica5594
@isabellacatolica5594 3 ай бұрын
Basque is the only truly european language, it exists and existed way before indo-europeans,uralics and so on
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 3 ай бұрын
The Sami and Baltic-Finnic branches are the edge of what was once a vast language family Hungarian on the other hand belongs to an entirely different group that migrated all the way from the Ural Mountains, and were culturally very different from other Finnic-Uralic peoples and followed a form of shamanism similar to Turkic-Mongolian peoples and other horse nomads rather than the Finnish gods
@Pippis78
@Pippis78 2 ай бұрын
Weeell, partially true. Finnic tribes didn't really have gods either before Scandinavian, European etc. influence. It was to a great degree an animistic and also probably shamanistic religious/spiritual belief system. Instead of Gods they believed in ancestral spirits and spirits that inhabit all living beings and even non-living things. Certain spirits later grew to sort of larger protective spirits and then gods of forest or the waters etc. There's a modern similarity to for instance Japanese spiritual beliefs (which imo partially explains the mutual interest of the people to eachothers culture). I don't think there is any common agreement whether there was a larger (finno-)ugric language area in Europe or if it was more of a long migration from the Uralic region. The latter is the commonly accepted theory though. This video ofcourse didn't mention the other very small finno-baltic or finno-ugric language pockets close to Finland and Estonia's borders and in Russia. Especially under the Russian and Soviet rule these have suffered greatly and many disappeared completely. Russian is also an Indo-European language that took over the modern area of Russia. So don't know about _Europe_, but in the areas of modern day Russia Ugric, Siperian etc. languages were certainly the main languages before "russification". Hungarians and the Magyar language is very interesting and complicated for sure. The people moved around and were bounced around a lot in the midst of a lot of fighting powers. The modern situation is that the people are no longer genetically Uralic but exactly like the other people around them, but they are culturally distinctive and the language survived.
@jokemon9547
@jokemon9547 2 ай бұрын
​@@Pippis78 Scandinavian influence on the Baltic Finnic belief systems and mythos is rather Baltic influence, which just so happens to be similar in many ways to their Scandinavian counterparts. Also the oldest deitic influences probably date to the Indo-Iranian contact. Certain motifs and deities with very similar functions that predate the Germanic and Baltic influences exist from the Baltic sea to the Volga region and beyond, one of them being "jumala", literally the Christian God when written as "Jumala" and then just any god as "jumala". This deity is believed to have been a general sky god, which explains why it specifically went on to be adopted as the name for the Christian God. "Jumala" also has counterparts among the Mordvins and Mari as "Jumishipas" and "Jumo" along with proposed connection to Mordvinic word for lightning "jondol". The word "ilma" now meaning "air" in Finnish (from which Ilmarinen comes from) and it's counterparts in many other Uralic languages going far east to the Urals also point to an old sky deity. Some also might think the deity Turso/Turrisas/Taara/Taarapita/Tiirmes found among Baltic Finns and the Sami is a borrowing from the Germanic Thor, but similarly named deities are also found among the Khanty and even Samoyeds. Although the similarities to Thor and even Odin are likely influence, the deities themselves are not and they are unlikely to be simply forms of "Thor".
@geremachek
@geremachek 3 ай бұрын
I would have liked to hear mention of Kalmyk, a Mongolic language spoken in the Kalmykia republic of Russia, north of the Caucuses.
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu 3 ай бұрын
Fact, Basque is the only European language the others can go back to ; the Manych plain (IE), Arabian desert (Maltese), Ural & Altai mountains (Uralic & Turkic)
@laser8389
@laser8389 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean "the others can go back to"?
@sadkylmaz9351
@sadkylmaz9351 3 ай бұрын
He's mean others are coming from outside europe but basque is originally europe but does'nt have any similarity other european languages @@laser8389
@aarpftsz
@aarpftsz 3 ай бұрын
@@laser8389 He either means some wack theory about "basque is the ancestor of all languages!!!!," or, more likely (I hope) that it's the only language that predates the other mentioned (only by name, old-old-basque of that time is VASTLY different to modern basque)
@003mohamud
@003mohamud 3 ай бұрын
@@aarpftsz I had to read it twice, but I think he is saying that Basque is the only native european language and all the others can go back to wherever they came from.
@cgt3704
@cgt3704 3 ай бұрын
​​@@003mohamudi also think thats what he wanted to say and i find it insanely amusing that he believes Basque has the right to own all of europe even though its possible that neolithic europe had dozens of languanges and that proto-basque was just one of them. Not to mention that most experts agree that PIE originated somewhere in Russo-Ukrainian border which would make it european in origin (same case for the Finnic Languages)
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 3 ай бұрын
bro the Uralic languages and Caucasus languages and Basque are European. this is like saying Japanese is not an Asian because its an isolate or of jul'hoan is not a real African language because its not bantu. i think every language that originated in Europe is European .
@slovenianempire
@slovenianempire 3 ай бұрын
List of missing languages: Juduzmo, Võro, Votic, Ludic, Karelian, Various Caucasian languages (Adyghe, Lezgi, Kumyk, Balkar, Budukh, Abkhaz, etc.), Migrelian, Svan, Laz
@adrianblake8876
@adrianblake8876 3 ай бұрын
Yiddish is Indo-European, though. It's descended from German...
@slovenianempire
@slovenianempire 3 ай бұрын
@@adrianblake8876 My mistake. I forgot that pretty much every "Jewish" language actually is derived from the language that surrounds the Jewish community.
@radir1657
@radir1657 3 ай бұрын
You forgot eastern turanid(sumerian) but its also hungaryan
@Slavianophile
@Slavianophile Ай бұрын
Chuvash is a very interesting language.
@RobinHood-tw4se
@RobinHood-tw4se 3 ай бұрын
Indo-European languages => Originated in modern day Ukraine and Western Russia Kartvelian languages => Originated in the Caucasus mountains Northeast Caucasian languages => Originated in the Caucasus mountains Northwest Caucasian languages => Originated in the Caucasus mountains Basque => Originated in the Iberian peninsula Uralic languages => Likely originated east of the Ural Mountains in Northern Asia Turkic languages => Originated in modern day Mongolia Afroasiatic languages => Likely originated in the Levant
@LAOCHPadre
@LAOCHPadre 3 ай бұрын
How did Hungarian get so isolated? Magyars. Finnish and estonians went north, Magyars went south.
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 3 ай бұрын
Or Finnish went north, Magyars dont went to anywhere, just stayed in their place.
@jokemon9547
@jokemon9547 2 ай бұрын
The Uralic languages started spreading from the Ural region both west and east. The ancestors of Finns, Estonians etc. eventually reached the eastern Baltic roughly between 2000 to 1000 BC depending on who is talking. While this was all happening, the ancestors of Hungarians largely remained in the east around the mid to southern Urals until around 800 BC, when they started migrating south and started picking up more influences from steppe groups like the Scythians. Hungarians remained northeast of the Caspian sea for some time until migrating further west between the Black and Caspian sea around the 400s AD. Then from there they migrated northwest of the Black Sea and into the Carpathian Basin between the 600s and 800s AD. Hungarians had a completely separate migration and one which saw them enter into their current area much later than the Finns and Estonians. The separation of the ancestors of Finns, Estonians and others in the Baltic region and those of Hungarians is roughly 5000 years old.
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 2 ай бұрын
@@jokemon9547 Those theories already debunked by the DNA researches. Even the 1700 year old Hungarian samples were insignificant Uralic DNA. They connected to Bactria. They are themselves the Schythians.
@gabork5055
@gabork5055 2 ай бұрын
@@xerxen100That's what the Hungarian-like words in the Tartaria Tablets would suggest. Or maybe the population that used to live here spoke a language very similar to Sanskrit which also 'coincidentally' used to share words with 'Finno-Ugric'.
@sefhammer6276
@sefhammer6276 3 ай бұрын
what about Kalmyk, a mongolic language spoken in Russian europe near Kazakhstan?
@nonamenoname2767
@nonamenoname2767 3 ай бұрын
Turkey ok some small territory in the european continent if you may include it to Europe but Georgia in europe?🤔
@AltaicGigachad
@AltaicGigachad 3 ай бұрын
In short, it is hard to think of any other ethnolinguistic entity in history that conquered so vast a territory and founded so many empires and states, also contributing to world civilizations. The history of the Turkic peoples was an important factor in world history for more than a millennium until the emergence of Europe as the world's dominant power. What happened in the Turkic world often affected the history of China, Central Asia, the Middle East, South Asia, and Europe. One may also argue that world history began with the "Turko-Mongol" empire created by Chinggis Khan. In the contemporary world, Turkic-speaking nations form six states (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey/Türkiye) and several "autonomous" units in Russia (the republics of Chuvash, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Altai, Khakassia, Tuva, and Sakha) and China (the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region). Turkic peoples also reside as minority groups in several other countries, including Mongolia and Iran, among others. It would therefore be difficult to acquire a comprehensive understanding of world history as well as our present world without studying the history of the Turkic peoples.
@krusokat
@krusokat 3 ай бұрын
turkey is arab
@Slavianophile
@Slavianophile Ай бұрын
You have not mentioned Chuvash - the most original Turkic language. It spoken mostly on the Volga.
@toasty9670
@toasty9670 29 күн бұрын
IE is only the largest by number of speakers-there are 3 other language families, being atlantic-congo, austronesian, and sino-tibetan that all have more languages in them
@tylervile2578
@tylervile2578 3 ай бұрын
Yiddish & Ladino feel worth a mention because they're technically Germanic and Romance respectively, but they're creolized with a Semitic language (Hebrew), so they have grammar structures you wouldn't generally associate with German or Spanish, and are written in Hebrew script
@aodhanmonaghan1268
@aodhanmonaghan1268 3 ай бұрын
Writing systems and loanwords don't make a language. Yiddish is a Germanic language that has Afro Asiatic loanwords. German, English and Dutch also have plenty of Afro Asiatic/Hamito-Semitic words. The video was about languages in Europe that aren't Indo-European. Otherwise you could say Indonesian and Vietnamese are worth mentioning because they use the Roman alphabet and have a lot of IE loanwords. Yiddish and Ladino are European geographically and IE. Language family ≠ writing system After all, English has plenty of Romance features despite being Germanic
@lardgedarkrooster6371
@lardgedarkrooster6371 2 ай бұрын
As a speaker of Spanish and learner of Yiddish, the grammar of Ladino is slightly different, but not too much that I as a Spanish speaker wouldn't expect and it does not hinder intelligibility. The main thing that would trip up a native Spanish speaker is the use of loanwords in Ladino, which I'm ok with the Hebrew ones since I already speak Hebrew as well and am learning some Arabic and Greek, but I'll have trouble with Turkish and Slavic loans loans. Yiddish grammar is also not too different from German and the differences are not too unexpected. I've spoken Yiddish with German speakers and we communicated just fine. The main issue was again the loanwords. Germans obviously won't understand many of the Hebrew and Slavic loans. However, the grammatical structures of both Ladino and Yiddish are undoubtedly Indo-European (Romance and Germanic respectively), even if sometimes the words may come from elsewhere. That would be like trying to say Persian is not Indo-European because it uses the Arabic script (at least for Farsi and Dari) and has many Arabic loanwords and influences
@der_Alptraum
@der_Alptraum 3 ай бұрын
Whenever i see Turkey and Europe mentioned in the same sentence, some people jump into it, saying "Turkey isn't Europe. Turks aren't Europeans." etc. I get it, their president is awful. But could you please stop the negativity?
@tempestsonata1102
@tempestsonata1102 3 ай бұрын
Unlike a lot of people out there, I don't see any offensive in "non-European". My second foreign language is Japanese, it's very obviously not European, and I love it. If somebody says "But it's not European!", I just shrug it off.
@Slavianophile
@Slavianophile Ай бұрын
But Turkey has never been a European country - either geographically or culturally. It is an integral part of the Islamic civilisation. It is no more European than Egypt or Iran.
@Slavianophile
@Slavianophile Ай бұрын
I believe that Russia or Greece are not European either. Our culture is based on Orthodox Christianity which is fundamentally different from Roman Catholicism or Protestantism. Turkey, of course, even less European. But we shouldn't develop an inferiority complex about that. We are what we are and we should be happy with that. Europeans are merely human, just like everyone else. Let us not.worship them like some pagan gods.
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 3 ай бұрын
All of those languages did influence some Indo European Languages and recieved influence from Indo European languages, good example being Turkish
@andrijahreljanovic2078
@andrijahreljanovic2078 3 ай бұрын
Indo-European languages are prevalent in Europe and parts of Asia. Non indo-european languages spoken in Europe also belong to european continent and culture. Calling only indo-european languages european is uneducated. Basque, georgian, estonian, hungarian, maltese, finnish, gagauz, tatar, nenet, sami and others... are not indo-european languages but are languages primarely spoken on european continent and claiming they are not european is downright offensive. The video is actually about non indo-european languages spoken in Europe but it's done poorly.
@LanceAbrams
@LanceAbrams 3 ай бұрын
You could probably also count Ashkenazi Hebrew; though technically a dialect of Hebrew, it has a substantial presence in Europe.
@I_Love_Learning
@I_Love_Learning 3 ай бұрын
At 8:30 ish, you claimed that Maltese was PIE.
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
Maltese is based on Arabic
@I_Love_Learning
@I_Love_Learning 2 ай бұрын
@@soupdragon151The whole video is non-PIE European languages.
@zariaalhajmoustafa2573
@zariaalhajmoustafa2573 3 ай бұрын
You're right about cross continental language if European Asia different country and they're not by definition of continent an age you are wanting continent plus Africa
@rmar127
@rmar127 3 ай бұрын
6:29 That Proto-Turkic speech bubble seems to be coming from Manchuria rather than modern day Mongolia
@Afshar36
@Afshar36 3 ай бұрын
As warriors, the Huns inspired almost unparalleled fear throughout Europe. They were amazingly accurate mounted archers, and their complete command of horsemanship, their ferocious charges and unpredictable retreats, and the speed of their strategical movements brought them overwhelming victories. For half a century after the overthrow of the Visigoths, the Huns extended their power over many of the Germanic peoples of central Europe and fought for the Romans. By 432 the leadership of the various groups of Huns had been centralized under a single king, Rua, or Rugila. When Rua died in 434 he was succeeded by his two nephews, Bleda and Attila. The joint rulers negotiated a peace treaty at Margus (now Požarevac, Serbia) with the Eastern Roman Empire, by which the Romans agreed to double the subsidies they had been paying the Huns. The Romans apparently did not pay the sums stipulated in the treaty, and in 441 Attila launched a heavy assault on the Roman Danubian frontier, advancing almost to Constantinople. (BRITANNICA)
@herptek
@herptek Ай бұрын
Majority of currently living Uralic speakers inhabit Europe. The majorities in Asian countries speak languages from entirely different language families. The Uralic languages originated to the west from Urals making its origin place European no matter how one looks at it.
@human8454
@human8454 2 ай бұрын
Great Aryan race spreaded indo european language in Europe.
@davidmccarroll2280
@davidmccarroll2280 Ай бұрын
Aryan is a term specifically used by the Indo-Iranian half of the family whilst the other half is referred to as Yamnaya, Corded Ware, bell breaker etc
@human8454
@human8454 Ай бұрын
@@davidmccarroll2280 be thankful to Aryans .They civiled your Neolithic european farmers
@robertberger4203
@robertberger4203 3 ай бұрын
Azerbaijani is. basically the same language as Turkish with some differences in dialect .
@e.v3832
@e.v3832 3 ай бұрын
Not really , Azerbaijani is mostly influenced by Persian while Turkish is under influence of Greek,Arabic and French
@robertberger4203
@robertberger4203 3 ай бұрын
The two are mutually intelligible and. Azerbaijanis always say they speak Turkish ,not Azerbaijani . @@e.v3832
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 3 ай бұрын
@@e.v3832 They not influenced by Persian, they are Persians, who heavily influenced by Turkish :)
@IliasKiraly
@IliasKiraly Ай бұрын
Okay , Turkey has a little piece in Europe, but Georgia, is definitly not in Europe, but in Asia.
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction 3 ай бұрын
The name kartvelian comes from an ancient Georgian mythology, Kartlos was believed to be the father of all Georgians. The same way eastern Province of the Georgia is named Kartli (former Iberia)
@kilr0y_was_here
@kilr0y_was_here 2 ай бұрын
Great video!
@animatorguy8688
@animatorguy8688 3 ай бұрын
Respect from Georgia 💝
@AZOOZ4A
@AZOOZ4A 2 ай бұрын
The country or the state in usa?
@LincolnDWard
@LincolnDWard 3 ай бұрын
It makes absolutely no sense to me that countries as far to the southeast as Armenia and Azerbaijan (south of the Caucasus) are considered by some to be partially or wholly European. It almost seems like a surrender of the concept of geographically objective boundaries.
@massey81
@massey81 3 ай бұрын
your fallacy is your modern concept of what Europe is, or rather, western Europe. Armenia has been intertwined into Europe historically a lot longer than many western European nations have.
@LincolnDWard
@LincolnDWard 3 ай бұрын
@@massey81 I understand the idea of historical ties, but couldn't you make the same argument for any other region that was conquered by Alexander the Great and subsequently Hellenized (Turkey, Lebanon, even Egypt)...? I don't see anyone arguing those are in Europe, aside from the bit of Turkey on the European side of the Bosporus - indicating that the distinction is meant to be primarily geographic, not historical.
@massey81
@massey81 3 ай бұрын
​ @LincolnDWard The deal is that both geography and culture are at play here. for example, the majority of people dont believe turkey and azerbaijan should be deemed a part of europe as they are seen as an invasive entity from very far away. Im one of those, however, i would be accepting of an anatolian nation that were the true heir of the byzantine empire as they would be more culturally linked with europe. also lets not forget that the armenia of today is vastly smaller than what it was in previous iterations (look up greater armenia for context). by that premise, if we remove turkey and azerbaijan we would have the roman empire, kingdom of armenia, goergian kingdoms and russian empire all linked as the eastern arm of europe. Also, the concept of a Europe came about by the greeks as if you truly look at it geographically, what is europe but the western half of asia which is a large peninsula?
@ansibarius4633
@ansibarius4633 3 ай бұрын
@@massey81 Hm, not sure what to make of this. Western Europe can hardly be anything else but European as it is completely embedded within the geographical concept of Europe. Ancient Armenia was located south of the Caucasus (eastern Anatolia, later also Cilicia) and its history was more intertwined with that of the Middle East.
@unusualcontent1821
@unusualcontent1821 Ай бұрын
im sorry, i know this has no relevance. but what is drake doing as a Patrion member?
@AlefJesus108
@AlefJesus108 27 күн бұрын
Indo Uralic could be an ancestor of proto Indo European and proto Uralic languages
@akai4942
@akai4942 2 ай бұрын
>European Languages That Aren't European Basque is literally the oldest language in Europe. And Uralic languages are as native to europe as indoeuropean. To conflate traditionally european languages like basque and finnish with turkish is either misleading or downright dumb.
@davidmedlin8562
@davidmedlin8562 Ай бұрын
Holy pooo people way to not watch the video and get that its just a premise forbthe video not that hes saying all these languages are actually not European but "non Indo European languages spoken in Europe" isnt a catchy title
@LAOCHPadre
@LAOCHPadre 3 ай бұрын
Would yiddish be considered another native European language?
@adrianblake8876
@adrianblake8876 3 ай бұрын
Yes, it's descended from German...
@tostcronch
@tostcronch 3 ай бұрын
yep, one of the only (if not the only) indo-european languages written with the hebrew script
@LanceAbrams
@LanceAbrams 3 ай бұрын
Yes; though it uses a Semitic abjad script, it is descended from old High German, and is therefore an Indo-European Language of the Germanic branch.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 3 ай бұрын
its a creole
@chrisk5651
@chrisk5651 3 ай бұрын
Is Cypress actually physically in Europe or actually Asia?!?!?!?
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
Cyprus is in europe...
@davidmccarroll2280
@davidmccarroll2280 Ай бұрын
It's an island so it definitely can
@kikicallahan3662
@kikicallahan3662 2 ай бұрын
You should do a video on all the Indo European languages that are not native to Europe like Haitian, Afrikaans and the Indo-Iranian languages.
@davidmccarroll2280
@davidmccarroll2280 Ай бұрын
I consider Afrikaans to be a native Language of the western cape, while Haitian (a french creole) to be a lingua franca whilst the native language of the island is Taino
@datbo1
@datbo1 3 ай бұрын
What about yiddish
@dilgeatakan9366
@dilgeatakan9366 3 ай бұрын
1:33 Good to know that Hungarian is spoken in Bulgaria and Estonian is spoken in Russia.
@christopherbentley7289
@christopherbentley7289 3 ай бұрын
This was another improvement in your videos, Patrick and although there are some here questioning your characterisation of the languages covered as not 'European', generally I can see where you're coming from. It came as a surprise to me when you said that Azerbaijan was only partly in Europe, when I think of it as entirely therein.
@omi4470
@omi4470 25 күн бұрын
In various parts of the world-uh
@tadesubaru1383
@tadesubaru1383 2 ай бұрын
Man, the wording in this video is horrendous 😂😂😂😂😂 it's so bad that ut actually becomes misinformative
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
Pretty awful overall
@NikhileshSurve
@NikhileshSurve 3 ай бұрын
0:35 Whole of India or even whole of North India is not hindi, only a large part of Northern India is.
@dlbeats6649
@dlbeats6649 3 ай бұрын
i find that there is no point in bringing up turkish as turkey and turkish people and seen as Europeans. sure on the map they are included as "europe" but that doesn't mean they are European. ask any europien person and they will say they arent. not because we dislike them or anything but rather because their culture is not alike ours and thus they are not one of us
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
Turkey wasn't historically part of europe it was Asia Minor, "little asia"
@Slavianophile
@Slavianophile Ай бұрын
Turks are part of Muslim Asia.
@Somali_1ball
@Somali_1ball 3 ай бұрын
Every end of a word be like : European Languages that aren't European.. Rrrrrrrrr
@plant.hacks.4.ur.environment
@plant.hacks.4.ur.environment 3 ай бұрын
You forgot the Kalmyk people in European Russia, the Iranic languges in southern Russia by Azerbaijan
@hinatwinz917
@hinatwinz917 3 ай бұрын
Change the "Leave a super thanks" video from "Americans Shouldn’t Be Called American" to "How did the Countries of South America Get Their Names?" at the timestamp 9:36.
@rosennikolov6313
@rosennikolov6313 2 ай бұрын
BULGARIAN CIVILIZATION 1ST and EUROPE VINCI TRACIAN BULGARIAN CIVILIZATION
@landon8214
@landon8214 3 ай бұрын
I saw something wrong with the thumbnail. Not watching, but take my like!
@pbworld7858
@pbworld7858 3 ай бұрын
Georgia is in Europe? That's news to me.
@suvi7641
@suvi7641 3 ай бұрын
technically small parts of georgia are north of the drainage divide line of the caucasus mountains. one example is the town of Stepantsminda and the surrounding areas.
@paolorossi9180
@paolorossi9180 3 ай бұрын
Is an Asian Country,like Armenia,Cyprus,Turkey Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan
@alicealice8339
@alicealice8339 3 ай бұрын
Modern youtube "educational helpful" content as it finest. According to which criteria languages are devided into European and non-European, if most of these linguistic families existed in both Europe and Asia for hundreds of years. All theories about proto-languages and their homelands are just theories and speculations. If we go by what actually is historically recorded, we see that earliest Indo-European language was attested in Asia Minor. On other hand, no Finnic language was recorded in Asia, all of them be it Estonian, Udmurt, Erzya or Sami were speaken in Europe (georgraphically) at least within last several millenias.
@animatorguy8688
@animatorguy8688 3 ай бұрын
GEORGIA MENTIONED RAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@abeltoth430
@abeltoth430 3 ай бұрын
Suggestion: why are there more language families in asia than in europe?
@bj.bruner
@bj.bruner 3 ай бұрын
Size more than anything
@aarpftsz
@aarpftsz 3 ай бұрын
Well, Europe's part of Asia so... Putting that aside, to put is simply, conquest mixed with other peoples ability to defend themselves, combined with the attitude of the attacker (do you want to occupy the lands? Do you want to slowly convert the people you've conquered into yours? Or do you want to kill them instead?), geography (Europe's smaller), and most importantly: purely just random luck, made it so that Europe doesn't really enjoy greater diversity regarding (meta-)language families (there's still a lot of families, but most of them just fall under the IE branch)
@lagavulin7194
@lagavulin7194 3 ай бұрын
Isn't that logical? Just look at the landmass and the population.
@flavi9692
@flavi9692 3 ай бұрын
Forgot dobrujan tatar😢
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
Tatar is a turkic language is it not?
@flavi9692
@flavi9692 2 ай бұрын
@@soupdragon151 yes
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 3 ай бұрын
Latin didn’t migrate, it conquered, and then the various new languages arose when those regions were conquered by different barbarians
@zariaalhajmoustafa2573
@zariaalhajmoustafa2573 3 ай бұрын
My friend Latin him never migrate to This Land Is come by Force
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 3 ай бұрын
@thefrench8847
@thefrench8847 3 ай бұрын
>Georgia >European
@ihmissusi-lp8ut
@ihmissusi-lp8ut 15 күн бұрын
Finnish language is spoken much bigger area on Europe than Italian. Finnish is more European.
@ihmissusi-lp8ut
@ihmissusi-lp8ut 15 күн бұрын
And yes. We are white.
@rosennikolov6313
@rosennikolov6313 2 ай бұрын
BULGARIAN and Armenia VOLGA BULGARIAN DUNAV BULGARIAN 1ST BULGARIAN
@RrRr-wj4xv
@RrRr-wj4xv 3 ай бұрын
cyprus is not always considered europe
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
By who? Turks?
@LindaengelustrupBlogspot
@LindaengelustrupBlogspot 3 ай бұрын
I speak a little Albanian 🙂
@quincy9908
@quincy9908 3 ай бұрын
This just shows how Europe & Asia aren't continents
@FrithonaHrududu02127
@FrithonaHrududu02127 3 ай бұрын
There are some links between Basque and Georgian I've read
@neutralgear1088
@neutralgear1088 3 ай бұрын
Why do you speak like that eeee
@nombremfalso
@nombremfalso 3 ай бұрын
Recently, they discovered that the closest modern spoken language to basque si Armenian, so probably basque came to the Iberian peninsula during the migration era, just after Rome fell
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 3 ай бұрын
Its very unlikely. Maybe the Huns settled them there, just like the Portugeese peoples.
@jonC1208
@jonC1208 3 ай бұрын
Basque is older than proto latin, question is if armenian, georgian and basque originated in their current lands or if they came from another group lost to us after the indo european came and only the most mountanious survived, also pre roman iberia had much more pre indoeuropean peoples but at the time the celts where pushing them back, also iberians had similar ways to call numbers as basques which is another theiry that basques are the remaining iberians
@jokemon9547
@jokemon9547 2 ай бұрын
How does that make sense when Aquitanian, considered ancestral to Basque, has writings dated to the 100s-300s AD already in the region as well as inscriptions on artifacts from the 1st century BC, that are considered to have been "proto-Basque".
@nombremfalso
@nombremfalso 2 ай бұрын
I've made a mistake, basque was there before the romans
@sergi.adamchuk
@sergi.adamchuk 2 ай бұрын
"Even Ukrainian" 😂
@gianlucabonet31
@gianlucabonet31 2 ай бұрын
Grazie.
@TopFix
@TopFix 3 ай бұрын
Georgia isn't Europe.
@nevreiha
@nevreiha 3 ай бұрын
you aren't the arbiter of europe. calm down.
@thatiowan3581
@thatiowan3581 3 ай бұрын
Yes it is
@MirzaAliQasimRaza
@MirzaAliQasimRaza 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@gergelykada6351
@gergelykada6351 3 ай бұрын
Intentions were great, but even the name of the video is misleading and offensive. If these languages are spoken in Europe, then they are European. Indo-European languages are named Indo-European becasue their speakers now live in India and Europe. So what is the difference then? Just because these language families dont have "Europe" in their name does not mean they are any less European. Please dont gatekeep being European from cultures and languages which have been spoken in Europe for hundreds of years.
3 ай бұрын
Cyprus isn't in Europe. If Indo-European originated south of the Caucasus rather than north of it it also isn't from Europe. Basque is the only language left in western Europe from the original European languages from before Indo-European spread. Maltese is Arabic with lots of Italian and other words. You accidently called it Indo-European in the end. You mentioned the Kartvelian family which is mostly south of the Caucasus and therefor not in Europe but didn't mention the Pontic (or Northwest Caucasian) and Caspian (Northeast Caucasian) families that are north of the Caucasus and are in Europe. It's tricky to say that migration make languages spread. It's usually very little migration of some elite that and mostly the local population that shifts to their language
@abarette_
@abarette_ 2 ай бұрын
>Cyprus isn't in Europe. well that's a new one
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
Half the population speak greek, its name is from greek...
2 ай бұрын
@@soupdragon151so
@forstokketklaphat1189
@forstokketklaphat1189 2 ай бұрын
The sound you end nearly every sentence with are highly irritating to me.
@rheiagreenland4714
@rheiagreenland4714 3 ай бұрын
Technically Indo-European also originates with migration of a people from the Eurasian Steppe. Yeah, the Eurasian Steppe is really underrated.
@skladzasnimki6th818
@skladzasnimki6th818 3 ай бұрын
Why "even" Ukrainian? Why the "even"?
@user-jn6kx1qx5e
@user-jn6kx1qx5e 3 ай бұрын
You forgot Armenian 😢
@thefrench8847
@thefrench8847 3 ай бұрын
Armenian are (West) Asian not European.
@user-jn6kx1qx5e
@user-jn6kx1qx5e 3 ай бұрын
@@thefrench8847 how is Georgia then European? And even if we don't consider that, the language is indo-European
@Hiljaa_
@Hiljaa_ 3 ай бұрын
Armenian is also Indo European
@thefrench8847
@thefrench8847 3 ай бұрын
@@Hiljaa_ no they aren't, their language has nothing in common with Indo-European, only influenced.
@Hiljaa_
@Hiljaa_ 3 ай бұрын
@@thefrench8847 Armenian is an isolate within Indo European, similar to like Albanian. It's its own branch, but it's still part of Indo European
@LeroyUrocyon
@LeroyUrocyon 2 ай бұрын
Turkish, Hungarian and Georgian are better!
@francopadova
@francopadova 3 ай бұрын
What about Finnish, Estonian, Basque etc.
@lucaswiese6
@lucaswiese6 3 ай бұрын
15th like
@rikrikonius1301
@rikrikonius1301 3 ай бұрын
Europe ends at France. Everything west of there is Asia :)
@xWHITEx
@xWHITEx 3 ай бұрын
"Europe" is hellenic word, you dirty gaul xD
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama 3 ай бұрын
Like the Atlantic and the Americas.
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
I think you mean east...
@tomasvrabec1845
@tomasvrabec1845 3 ай бұрын
Funny how people split Fins and Sami. Fins are Sami. Sami are gew different groups of people akon to "germanic". Fins are part lf Sami family. Fins as a cukture were special fr.the other Sami simply based on the division between nomadic, semi nomadic and settled. Fins wrre the settled Sami. As it usually turns out, stating in one places makes it generationally easier to build up structures and transfer more skills, knowledge as well as form a society where not everyone has to be a food provider but a service provider (eg educator)
@LAOCHPadre
@LAOCHPadre 3 ай бұрын
Are Finnish and Sami mutually intelligible?
@lurji
@lurji 3 ай бұрын
think of it like a paraphyly being turned into a monophyly with more research. birds are dinosaurs and thus reptiles and all that
@Uskarj
@Uskarj 3 ай бұрын
2 totally different brances. Finns and samis dont understand each other
@ancientwarrior3482
@ancientwarrior3482 3 ай бұрын
​@@Uskarj There are some words here and there a Finn can understand from Sami but that's about it
@tomasvrabec1845
@tomasvrabec1845 3 ай бұрын
@@Uskarj Like I stated, they are like "Germanics". Danish is Germanic, but you wouldn't find it mutually intelligible with German
@swedishmetalbear
@swedishmetalbear 3 ай бұрын
You forgot Finnish, Estonian, and Sámi.. They are not indiginous European languages either. (Indo-European)
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 3 ай бұрын
Indo-Europeans migrated to Europe 5000 years ago from Asia, they are not indigenous languages...
@korfrag6865
@korfrag6865 2 ай бұрын
3:08
@davidmccarroll2280
@davidmccarroll2280 Ай бұрын
Sami are quite literally considered to be indeginous
@swedishmetalbear
@swedishmetalbear Ай бұрын
Sámi is a Uralic language.. Hence it comes from the Ural mountains originally and they migrated in. The language spoken by the original indiginous people or "western hunter gatherers" has been replaced by the late comers.@@davidmccarroll2280We know this because of genetic evidence.
@bittergeek
@bittergeek 3 ай бұрын
Neither Georgia nor Turkey are in Europe, they are in Asia.
@jmp9035
@jmp9035 3 ай бұрын
The fact that somehow Georgia and Turkey are considered to be in the same continent as Japan and not Bulgaria and Ural/Causcasus Russia is silly.
@bittergeek
@bittergeek 3 ай бұрын
@@jmp9035 It has nothing to do with culture. It's an objective description of the geology. The border between Europe and Asia is the Caucasus mountains. Russia is on the European side, Georgia is in Asia.
@thatiowan3581
@thatiowan3581 3 ай бұрын
This comment is mute since Europe and Asia are the same continent
@diamondsarenotforever8542
@diamondsarenotforever8542 3 ай бұрын
​@@thatiowan3581Right. All the Europians came from Asia. Asia is called the gate of Europe.
@soupdragon151
@soupdragon151 2 ай бұрын
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