Eurovision 2024 was a Complete Disaster

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ESC Gabe

ESC Gabe

18 күн бұрын

Eurovision 2024 almost completely fell apart. Here's how it happened.
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@wilyriley_
@wilyriley_ 17 күн бұрын
this year I have post-ESC relief, not depression
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 16 күн бұрын
Same it's such a strange feeling because every year I'm so sad when it's over and start counting down the days until Eurovision season starts up again. This year caused me so much secondhand stress that when it was over and Nemo won I felt so much relief but left with this hangover (which didn't come from alcohol but the show itself)
@bowl23273
@bowl23273 16 күн бұрын
you're here in the comment sections too????
@wilyriley_
@wilyriley_ 16 күн бұрын
@@bowl23273 I’m everywhere :)
@Ntinakkos
@Ntinakkos 16 күн бұрын
Talk for yourself sweetheart ❤
@xliza5242x
@xliza5242x 16 күн бұрын
I think I had during-ESC depression🙃
@BlueFlower___
@BlueFlower___ 14 күн бұрын
As a Finn, I'm now happy that Käärijä came 2nd last year since that means Finland was saved from hosting this shitshow
@greyninja_19
@greyninja_19 12 күн бұрын
Yeah indeed, and he is still a hero to this day!!
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta 11 күн бұрын
It was such a SONG. It certainly was something different! I liked it!
@mishynaofficial
@mishynaofficial 11 күн бұрын
Sadly dude's a russophile.
@joeribaby
@joeribaby 10 күн бұрын
Käärija and Joost Klein: legends forever!
@mishynaofficial
@mishynaofficial 9 күн бұрын
Another russophile.
@FrancescoRosi27
@FrancescoRosi27 16 күн бұрын
I'm 99.99% sure that Rai revealing the televote results was NOT a mistake. it's hard to explain, but basically, the graphic that was used to reveal the SF2 televoting results was one that had NEVER been used in the past to reveal televoting results (and it wasn't ever used again, not even in the final). in fact, it was in the same style as the other generic "lower-third" banner type graphics used, for example, in the credits at the start of the show. it's very plausible to think that a very brave Rai employee must have put this graphic together in a couple of minutes and """""accidentally""""" displayed it at the end of the show. Rai obviously came out and said that the graphic displayed "incomplete data", but we still "gave" our 12 televoting points to Israel, so they still probably lead the televote results by a massive margin.
@cyonidee
@cyonidee 16 күн бұрын
I just thing that Italy being a big five and having a reputation of being somewhat clumsy or disorganized were one of the very few who could have done it. And they did.
@markdowd1
@markdowd1 16 күн бұрын
It wasn't accidental. That's just naive. RAI saw that the Israeli machine was buying up simcards and using bots to buy the contest. These results were posted as a warning to the rest of Europe. I'm sure this part explains Israel's surprisingly poor jury result .
@genericbrand2000
@genericbrand2000 16 күн бұрын
I completely concur, RAI was warning everyone
@anabltc
@anabltc 16 күн бұрын
I said the same thing the moment I saw it! that was a warning
@BerylMorgan
@BerylMorgan 16 күн бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes. Some heroes are Italian broadcasting employees and we love them dearly.
@detox965
@detox965 16 күн бұрын
In Slovenian news today: "TV Slovenia wants from the EBU precise data on how the Slovenian audience voted, as well as additional explanations regarding the exclusion of the Netherlands, the ban on EU flags, the potential influence of the sponsor on the content of the event and the meaning of the "rest of the world" vote. RTV Slovenia also calls for reflection on ways to more effectively include the opinion of EBU members in the future. In addition, the Portuguese radio and television announced that due to the arbitrary behavior of the EBU, which uploaded to the official channels a recording of the performance of their representative Iolanda from the semi-final, instead of the final performance (because she had her nails painted in the Palestinian national colors in the final), and that with a delay of almost an hour, asked the organization for an extraordinary meeting. The representatives of the broadcasters of Norway, Spain, France and Croatia are also expected to support their request."
@user-ey5gf7zh2m
@user-ey5gf7zh2m 16 күн бұрын
Meangless countries
@lafabias1876
@lafabias1876 15 күн бұрын
Fantastic. Let them all never give peace to EBU until they concede to make fundamental changes to the management and rules. Also, yes, the EBU members need to be involved in major decisions.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 15 күн бұрын
Good on them. I hope other broadcasters join them.
@murderoustendencies
@murderoustendencies 14 күн бұрын
So Portuguese radio wants the EBU to give them explanations why there were consequences to their representative... breaking the rules? What era of stupidity do we live in?
@789uio6y
@789uio6y 14 күн бұрын
Slovenia is a boring country with now big gay parades. It should be quiet when true wastren countries speak.
@victoriascheer5625
@victoriascheer5625 16 күн бұрын
This wasn't a shit storm, this was a whole shit hurricane
@TheManInBlueFlames
@TheManInBlueFlames 16 күн бұрын
Israeli song reference.
@macalauresmuse
@macalauresmuse 16 күн бұрын
@@TheManInBlueFlames or Jim Lahey, Trailer Park Superintendant?
@Sharknado225
@Sharknado225 16 күн бұрын
Eurovision was more gay this year than ever and i hated it
@syrupsealpha
@syrupsealpha 16 күн бұрын
@@Sharknado225 womp womp
@afonsofsy5428
@afonsofsy5428 16 күн бұрын
@@Sharknado225womp womp
@ladybird24
@ladybird24 16 күн бұрын
Also the fact that the European Commission filed a report against the EBU for the banning of the European flag 🇪🇺 really escalates the situation Edit: sorry I changed my wording there hopefully most people knew what I meant 😅
@Hana9916
@Hana9916 16 күн бұрын
WHat???
@cofidy
@cofidy 16 күн бұрын
imagine banning the European flag in EUROvision
@ellaisalwayslurking
@ellaisalwayslurking 16 күн бұрын
it's so freaking funny istg. like how bad do you have to f up for the EUROPEAN COMMISSION to file a report against you 😭😂😭😂😭😂
@JRi973
@JRi973 16 күн бұрын
For real?
@llllila
@llllila 16 күн бұрын
And they answered "we didn't ban the EU flag, we just didn't allow it"
@ThaGamingMisfit
@ThaGamingMisfit 16 күн бұрын
This is the first year I felt mentally and even physically drained, starting from thursday evening. And I'm just a random viewer sitting at home. I can't imagine how it must have been being in Malmö. I don't think people can have another edition like this... I can't grasp how they made almost all worst decisions possible making everything backfire.
@andi01452
@andi01452 16 күн бұрын
Honestly same, didn't think I'd write a way longer comment under yours, but here we go. I've never felt so stressed mentally and physically after watching Esc from home and I've done it for 14 years. I was generally happy tuesday to thursday and once all the drama came to light and everything happened I couldn't stop scrolling socials for updates or focus on my life outside the bubble. I cried at one point and overthought a lot for the affected contestants and was in moral shock of Israel actually doing very well with the voting. That feeling ended up affecting other things in my life as well and my general well being. In Malmö it must've been HORRIFYING. I'm just relieved Nemo won and huge respect for all the artists who all managed to put on great performances despite the havoc and lifted my mood up even just a little bit in the final. If this also happened to anyone else, remember to take extra good care of yourselves in the time moving forward, take a deep breath, give yourself a hug and enjoy the summertime.
@Herr_SW5
@Herr_SW5 16 күн бұрын
@@andi01452I could have written this as it describes my experience. It has been truly horrible. I’m having trouble disconnecting from it so I need to work on that. Much love from me to you and anyone else who has suffered as a result of something which was meant to bring joy, not misery ❤️
@zenit0
@zenit0 15 күн бұрын
@@andi01452 I was so stressed on the day of the final, I mowed the lawn by choice just to not think about what happened.
@msdisco85
@msdisco85 15 күн бұрын
I know the feeling. It was a relief in the end that I didn't have a party - cos various friends were busy elsewhere, it was just me and my bf. Right up to the show, I wasn't sure it'd be on, and I was rooting for Ireland, so if they hadn't turned up, I'd have switched off there. And I'd been having a rough month, so the Eurovision S***show Contest was not the experience I was looking forward to as a relief from the pressure. Much like Silvester Belt, I wished it had ended on Tuesday. And I also felt a sadness thinking that if it was actually held in Israel, I'd have to find a new hobby for 2025. And I've been watching since I was a 90s kid, so that'd be quite a task.
@ar50000
@ar50000 15 күн бұрын
​@@zenit0deffo stressed on the day, just to keep up with what was happening.
@melonsodaproductions2838
@melonsodaproductions2838 16 күн бұрын
I think the finns can finally forgive us for not winning last year, because they really dodged a bullet… I do agree at least Petra kept the show together.
@pikapika4240
@pikapika4240 15 күн бұрын
It's not really dodging just a bullet, it was dodging a NUKE.
@mayppa
@mayppa 15 күн бұрын
As a finn this was excatly what I had on my mind 😅
@norax3212
@norax3212 15 күн бұрын
Thank you Loreen🙏
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 15 күн бұрын
Do you follow Finnish news over there? That's literally the wording of an article on YLE, the Finnish broadcaster.
@Nadia1989
@Nadia1989 14 күн бұрын
It was a blessing in disguise
@aflamingo003
@aflamingo003 16 күн бұрын
As a Dutch ESC fan, this year was just...so depressing. I'm honestly glad it's over
@nick_5791_GR
@nick_5791_GR 16 күн бұрын
Same, I was literally scared during Friday night because of what was happening and after it was done I was relieved that it was over, fuck the EBU
@demc9525
@demc9525 16 күн бұрын
I feel your pain.
@aphrodite._.4835
@aphrodite._.4835 15 күн бұрын
@@nick_5791_GRso real. I couldn’t sleep at all tbh. Was checking my phone constantly at work Saturday but felt weirdly relieved when the news came to be (like, it’s over, finally!)
@bobthebox2993
@bobthebox2993 15 күн бұрын
I hope that if the Netherlands decides to not participate next year, my country follows their example.
@wilyriley_
@wilyriley_ 15 күн бұрын
@@bobthebox2993 Belgium has already confirmed their participation though iirc
@anssia3123
@anssia3123 16 күн бұрын
Martin Österdahl You're Good To Go
@perjus
@perjus 15 күн бұрын
If there is any justice in the universe, he would think "I'm too old for this shit!"
@verenabecker2724
@verenabecker2724 15 күн бұрын
​@@perjusNah, if there was any justice, he should be thinking "I have terrible judgment and should never show my face in public ever again."
@allterraindummy
@allterraindummy 15 күн бұрын
@@verenabecker2724 If there was any justice, we'd learn what dirt Israel has on him
@WillMeganFan
@WillMeganFan 15 күн бұрын
Love this comment 😂
@Hgames_RBLX
@Hgames_RBLX 14 күн бұрын
Oh, Jon Ola Sand just replied, he said “Take him away”
@TheGrimSqueak
@TheGrimSqueak 16 күн бұрын
All your comments about petra mede are 100% accurate. No one could have steered this sinking ship like she did
@Rita-gq9hp
@Rita-gq9hp 15 күн бұрын
She is an actress and i think she was prepared.
@MyTubeSVp
@MyTubeSVp 15 күн бұрын
Imagine standing there, having to carry this trainwreck … Takes balls!
@Nadia1989
@Nadia1989 14 күн бұрын
Her back hurt for trying to save the contest by herself.
@almamater489
@almamater489 14 күн бұрын
In general, I'm sorry for the Sweden. They're good hosts, and all their effort got stumped on by EBU giving princess treatment to one specific privileged delegation
@Xeno_fqxb
@Xeno_fqxb 13 күн бұрын
@@almamater489 svt deserved more respect. they tried their best hosting the contest on a tight budget but got stabbed in the back by ebu
@Mrssilviasmff
@Mrssilviasmff 16 күн бұрын
I really hope RTP (Portugal) doesn’t let this shit go. We celebrated the 50th anniversary of a revolution that took us out of a fascist government (that lasted 40 years) and gave freedom of speech just 3 weeks prior the shit show ESC was. If everyone was already on edge over the humanitarian problems, when you add the bending of rules and reality to accommodate a certain discourse, this year of all years, I really hope they give EBU hell honestly. Edit: like some commenters said bellow, it’s was a dictatorship. Sorry for the miscommunication. Unless you’re Portuguese, you probably wouldn’t figure that out. But since my comment is about freedom of speech, humanitarian problems and distortion of information, my point stands the same.
@IvyroseGullwhacker
@IvyroseGullwhacker 14 күн бұрын
Congratulations on your 50th anniversary of independence from fascism, and your newly affirmed right to free speech. Hope they give the EBU hell, too!
@murderoustendencies
@murderoustendencies 14 күн бұрын
So let me get this straight. You are celebrating free speech in Portugal, and by that you are complaining that a young woman was not permitted to celebrate a totalitarian, segregationist government with a genocidal founding principle that shuts down free speech, murders homosexuals and enforces segregation, while encouraging the isolation of a democracy and the punishment of an innocent individual over it...?
@skurinski
@skurinski 11 күн бұрын
lol we never had fascism in Portugal
@biafreitas5666
@biafreitas5666 10 күн бұрын
@@skurinski /s... right???
@Mrssilviasmff
@Mrssilviasmff 9 күн бұрын
Ok everyone, you’re right. Yes I didn’t explain myself well: it was a dictatorship. Our dictator was inspired by fascist regimens BUT the politics weren’t heavily race oriented. I guess this is important in the sense, even during that, Portugal was an escape route for Jews in WW2. Is that ok?
@hydrangea2969
@hydrangea2969 16 күн бұрын
I can't believe No Rules! was a prophetic song Even before seeing this video, all the comments I saw from the artists were filled with uneasiness. It really made me think - do I even want us to send anyone next year if this is the environment they have to deal with?
@sarahenchanted
@sarahenchanted 16 күн бұрын
also Zorra playing while Eden was breaking down in the greenroom was weirdly funny
@valentine4589
@valentine4589 15 күн бұрын
@@sarahenchanted huh? is there a clip somerehwere?
@helenaterschegget8791
@helenaterschegget8791 15 күн бұрын
Their answers were so generic.. you wondered why even have a press conference? It’s clear they were instructed what or what not to say. Which all due respect, we should be living in free countries or so I thought we were. I would love to wacht zorra too btw. Was it in the half final?
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato 15 күн бұрын
The way he always sang something in between "this is my time. my stage / my state". And of course the "see me slay". They knew what they were doing;) The icelandic accent was only that strong for that one word.
@muraalia
@muraalia 14 күн бұрын
@@Mozzarella-and-Tomato Icelandic?
@thethreestars
@thethreestars 16 күн бұрын
I need therapy after Eurovision
@brakaduun
@brakaduun 16 күн бұрын
Everybody does
@angerandangst8039
@angerandangst8039 16 күн бұрын
I spent my last session talking only about eurovision
@GABentCon
@GABentCon 16 күн бұрын
The drama…
@fandroid6491
@fandroid6491 16 күн бұрын
Even the therapy needs therapy from Eurovision
@mariootjezh
@mariootjezh 15 күн бұрын
Snow flake
@j.t.5178
@j.t.5178 15 күн бұрын
This year was a prime example of "they made their bed, and now they have to lie in it."
@ashleyleckwold5091
@ashleyleckwold5091 13 күн бұрын
ESC 2024: F**k Around and Find Out
@flaminiamariafuccelli8214
@flaminiamariafuccelli8214 16 күн бұрын
REMOVE 👏 "MOROCCAN" 👏 OIL 👏 AS 👏 A 👏 SPONSOR!👏👏
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-db2ff
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-db2ff 15 күн бұрын
When I first saw it as a sponsor I thought it was an oil company, like petroleum, but that’s maybe even worse honestly.
@Adam-zw5sq
@Adam-zw5sq 15 күн бұрын
Why?
@lafabias1876
@lafabias1876 15 күн бұрын
​​@@Adam-zw5sqBecause having as a general sponsor a company from one of the participating countries means conflict of interest. Being bound by a 5 year contract with that company means having to mind what they dictate or at least do what they expect. If that company is from Israel - which Moroccanoil is - the equation is writing itself. EBUs hands were tied this year due to their own stupidity to walk into this contract in 2020, that's why they couldn't suspend Israel from participating this year. The consequences are here and Mr Ö has some leaving to do, and the EBU management needs to reform the rules and never again have a general sponsor (at least not from any participating country), but many small ones from different countries.
@lewismelrose4334
@lewismelrose4334 15 күн бұрын
@@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-db2ff when i first saw it, i assumed they were moroccan
@imscarlette1
@imscarlette1 14 күн бұрын
their contract expires this year 🔥🔥🔥
@HelloWorld-kt7jk
@HelloWorld-kt7jk 16 күн бұрын
as a dutch ESC-fan, this eurovision season has been wild. the double standards, lack of communication, and facist-like tactics to suppresses dissenting voices were absolutely shocking to witness
@brakaduun
@brakaduun 16 күн бұрын
I guess people should have paid better attention to when Martin Osterdahl completely disregarded Romanian jury vote, took them out of the live, and he presented some made up numbers by himself. Since then Romania does not participate any more invoking lack of budget. But everybody knows it's their way of saying 'Fuck the EBU'
@Jona-cn3le
@Jona-cn3le 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, it was dictatorshiplike
@mo4848
@mo4848 15 күн бұрын
I cannot see what you are saying. Joost was reported to the fucking police. Did anyone else get reported? No. So where is the double standard? Get over it.
@emilybakker3742
@emilybakker3742 15 күн бұрын
I didn't watch it and voted btw I am Dutch
@saskiapanter
@saskiapanter 15 күн бұрын
​@@emilybakker3742 not 1 cent went to the ebu from me
@ReddoLeoMeme2401
@ReddoLeoMeme2401 16 күн бұрын
Somebody could write an award-winning spy story on the events of the 10th and the 11th of May
@Eva-mp7xg
@Eva-mp7xg 15 күн бұрын
We all know that there's a certain author who writes spy stories, and hopefully he'll have plenty of free time to start this job soon enough.
@peterkeijsers489
@peterkeijsers489 14 күн бұрын
As a writer myself, I wouldn't dare to stick even my little toe into that snake pit!
@busfahrer09
@busfahrer09 13 күн бұрын
you mean Shin Bet and Mossad which were present in Malmö? lol
@ReddoLeoMeme2401
@ReddoLeoMeme2401 11 күн бұрын
@@Eva-mp7xgAbsolutely, last year i read dinner for two, and i liked its writing style
@Merecir
@Merecir 11 күн бұрын
Mossad filming potential terrorist sympathizers.
@ardemis3917
@ardemis3917 16 күн бұрын
As a Dutch fan, (IMO): Don't give us the auto-qualification. Instead, AVROTROS and the Dutch Delegation should not participate in the contest until 2026 at the minimum (as a protest for this year). This year has been so traumatic, I don't think anyone wants to be part of an event like this. The disqualification of Joost and the entire situation around it caused such a painful experience and a sour taste in the mouths of the Dutch viewers. No-one knew anything until the last moments of the event and we still don't have the full story!
@driekeijlders281
@driekeijlders281 16 күн бұрын
Think the bigger problem is: who will we send.. no one in his right mind would want to. Maybe you are right, maybe skip a few years, come back when it has settled a bit, for us, and the ebu.
@ryoukaip
@ryoukaip 16 күн бұрын
or just send a "political filled" entry 😉
@nr1231
@nr1231 16 күн бұрын
@@driekeijlders281 we should sent a parody act. With a song called fuck the ebu, or as close to that as the rules allows. Yes it will probably not qualify but it is about sending a message
@demc9525
@demc9525 16 күн бұрын
I'm in Oz the land down under sooo upset by Joost;s disqual..
@vogelmeister6809
@vogelmeister6809 15 күн бұрын
the fact that avrotros has given a consistent story, plus statements whereas the ebu have not given a consistent narrative nor a statement nor even bought it up, tells me everything. also like i understand bias but i also understand tone, and maas wouldn’t have said f the ebu on national tv if joosts dq was worthy of a dq.
@echtblikbonen
@echtblikbonen 16 күн бұрын
I'm dutch so I can tell you, public opinion is we will not be returning next year. Private broadcaster RTL ran a poll that ended up with 65% no, 28% "only if Joost represents us" and 7% yes
@LindaEnfield
@LindaEnfield 14 күн бұрын
The Dutch broadcaster should organise a Europapa Song Contest to directly compete with Eurovision.
@SergioPitarch
@SergioPitarch 13 күн бұрын
Not a big problem, we can go on without your country.
@Kenkar797
@Kenkar797 11 күн бұрын
​@SergioPitarch Of course you're one of them 🤑
@Arcessitor
@Arcessitor 3 күн бұрын
@@SergioPitarch jew
@TwelveRisks
@TwelveRisks 16 күн бұрын
the booing for israel’s performance was actually loud enough to hear on tv if you had the volume up! me and my friend both heard it, but it wasn’t as loud as when martin was talking
@macalauresmuse
@macalauresmuse 16 күн бұрын
I think they were using 'something' to mute the booing during performance.
@ohmmegag5056
@ohmmegag5056 16 күн бұрын
I'm like 90% sure that they didn't expect the boos for Martin, so they didn't have their technology ready. Really similar to when the [redacted] jury came on to give their points.
@emdove
@emdove 16 күн бұрын
​@@ohmmegag5056 I was thinking that maybe it's harder to apply the technology when somebody's talking, as opposed to music and singing. But your explanation makes a lot of sense.
@cliffarroyo9554
@cliffarroyo9554 16 күн бұрын
And it helped the entry.... not very smart thinking
@madamegrenouille6341
@madamegrenouille6341 16 күн бұрын
I heard it too!! And yet they magically "managed" to get 300+ votes and the artist from Netherlands that spoke against the singer of Israel was thrown out of the contest. And yet, nobody talked about the Israel singer making fun of the victims of Palestine. Bc yeah, she was the "victim", bc she had to be in her luxury hotel room all the time, during the contest and she got amazingly and out of nowhere votes that made Israel be at the top of Eurovision, she is the "victim" and not the kids that are dying in Palestine.
@macalauresmuse
@macalauresmuse 16 күн бұрын
I beg to differ. It was 95% a bin fire. Osterdahl getting boo'd was a highlight though.
@florenna
@florenna 16 күн бұрын
Well it was a highlight, but people actually getting to hear the actual booing for Israel would have been even better... And much more honest.
@Shileah
@Shileah 16 күн бұрын
Germany had the fitting staging for that bin fire. Probably helped getting us up to 12!
@shadowsisterhealing
@shadowsisterhealing 15 күн бұрын
@@Shileah Lol indeed Germany was having bin fire.
@macalauresmuse
@macalauresmuse 15 күн бұрын
Hey it was a good song, much love from Scotland x
@WillMeganFan
@WillMeganFan 15 күн бұрын
​@@ShileahWell done Germany. 12 points from your friends here in the UK ❤
@vivianh28
@vivianh28 16 күн бұрын
so many people have spoken out against how toxic the backstage environment is, and not just this year; S10 has recently made a statement regarding how stressful esc was for her. what gets me worried about it is this is what we see from the adult version... but what about JUNIOR eurovision? these are kids we're talking about - it breaks my heart to think about how they could be mistreated. i just hope the ebu gets all their shit together, starting with firing martin österdahl 😊
@CanonessEllinor
@CanonessEllinor 14 күн бұрын
Well, there is a reason the nordic countries (who started the damn thing) all withdrew from Junior Eurovision almost two decades ago.
@SergioPitarch
@SergioPitarch 10 күн бұрын
I have an idea: If you can't handle stress, don't participate in things like Eurovision 🤷🏻 If you do, don't complain.
@benjamintic3653
@benjamintic3653 15 күн бұрын
You know its huge when EU literally called the EBU out and every second broadcaster has complained about EBU and this years Eurovision, not to mention that many countries might want to quit, especialy the Netherlands
@annakobuk3618
@annakobuk3618 16 күн бұрын
As dust slowly settles on this edition's mess the realisation slowly sinks in. This messy season needs some kind of closure (and I don't think only about videos by creators) but as the days pass by there is less and less hope for any systemic changes in and around the contest ie. communication, politics, rules, crisis management (the lack of it) etc. Sooo - the next year(s) we may see less countries taking part and the same amount of problems (or even more).
@Hana9916
@Hana9916 16 күн бұрын
Nah, these kinds of changes take time. It's definitely not guaranteed, but we can hope that they will happen. Plus, I'm sure the EBU won't want a shit show next year on home turf, hopefully?
@anabltc
@anabltc 16 күн бұрын
or the change could be, for example, the change of the general sponsor
@helenaterschegget8791
@helenaterschegget8791 15 күн бұрын
The ONLY way of change, is if we the people, say we want one. Either we boycot, and countries should really think hard if it’s even worth it.
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato 15 күн бұрын
Which is so sad, because this contest's sole reason was for EUROPE to COME TOGETHER!!! But enemies of our community and democracy really did a number on us all. Imagine how much suffering this all caused people across the whole of Europe. Someone did imagine this, and went through with it. To keep eurovision alive, all countries should participate next year, Israel get permanently banned (removing the Israelis from the top executives of ESC), and Morrocan oil removed as sponsor. It is the only way not for ESC to crumble.
@Lithuanian_NAFO_lad
@Lithuanian_NAFO_lad 10 күн бұрын
​@@Mozzarella-and-Tomato well that is not happening. They renewed their sponsorship with Morocanoil
@FeeESC
@FeeESC 16 күн бұрын
This year was fucking traumatizing especially as a Dutch fan
@nick_5791_GR
@nick_5791_GR 16 күн бұрын
I'm Greek and even I was traumatized by this shit 😭 the drama surrounding it completely ruined the contest for me this year. I hope the Netherlands will automatically qualify next year (if you participate that is) it's honestly so outrageous how the Dutch delegation got fucked over and the EBU didn't even do anything about Israel.
@goofyahhhhrobloxchannel
@goofyahhhhrobloxchannel 16 күн бұрын
Me too 😭
@HippieLisaSimpson
@HippieLisaSimpson 16 күн бұрын
This was the worst contest ever! Eventually I am glad that Finland didnt get to host this shit show Joost is the winner of hearts forever!
@moononastick8628
@moononastick8628 16 күн бұрын
Awful. Would be a so incredibly sad if the Netherlands doesn’t take part. Was also relieved the artists all made it out in one piece - it’s clear they’ve had a nightmare.
@demc9525
@demc9525 16 күн бұрын
Awful stuff.
@Masaim6
@Masaim6 16 күн бұрын
It's just so jarring to see the Ebu destroy the contest we love.
@williamdfr1715
@williamdfr1715 16 күн бұрын
Hard fact : it's the EBU's product. They can do what they like with it and you can decide to stop watching
@shlomomarkman6374
@shlomomarkman6374 15 күн бұрын
The destruction was made by a portion of the fandom most of which did it for Tik-Tok likes and nothing else. Most those fans exclaiming from the river... and genocide don't know what river , what sea, where is all of that on a map and what the word genocide even means. Nor do they understand the politics, military tactics and geo-strategy behind it all. The proof is easy, just a few months ago Azerbaijan expelled the whole Armenian population of the Qarabagh - 150k people and there wasn't a squeak in the 2nd semi-final when they performed. Probably wasn't on Tik-Tok trends. Those fakes about Israel's involvement in the Joost Kleine debacle also came from Social media and Tik-Tok. My suggestion is before you go crazy because of a Tik-Tok trends research the subject properly from all sides. Also understand that nothing trends on Tik-Tok without the approval of the Chinese Communist Party , one of the most repressive entities on earth and with world-wide geopolitical ambitions. Also understand the booing as part of a crowd or spreading Tik-Tok trends isn't courage. Courage is when you are ready to face consequences like going to actual warzones to distribute aid.
@RITA-gc2dv
@RITA-gc2dv 15 күн бұрын
As a Swedish citizen, EBU wasn’t the problem this year and neither Israel. It was the Europeans and ESC community who basically stormed into our country and created chaos. Full of hate. Everyone (including the artists) knew exactly what they signed up for. They knew it before they went to Malmö, and we all knew that it wouldn’t change. Still both artists and fans travelled to Malmö. Artists broke the rules of the competition several times and STILL, they were allowed to be part of the competition. If there’s one thing I’m sceptical about with EBU, then it’s that they weren’t stricter and gave artists consequences. These artists don’t even care about the problem. Because WHY would they want to be part of a song contest that’s organised by EBU? When they’re claiming that organisation “support genocide & violated human rights”? WHY do the artists want to use Eurovision’s platforms to market themselves by showing their faces on their social media platforms? Why do they want people to vote for them to win, as the money is going to EBU? I said it day 1 and I still say it. These artists don’t care about the issue, they capitalised the issue for their own gain. In the same way they’re capitalising on getting marketing on Eurovision’s big platforms. They care about their image, nothing else.
@allterraindummy
@allterraindummy 15 күн бұрын
@@shlomomarkman6374 Must feel bad that they managed to beat your entry even with a 1.5 mil thumb on the scale, huh?
@helenaterschegget8791
@helenaterschegget8791 15 күн бұрын
@@williamdfr1715if they continue the same it’s the beginning of the end,,it’s a I don’t see, hear or see. It’s ALL of those OTHER countries fault. It’s not me… no ofcourse not. Even though many of those countries such as the Netherlands, UK, all held the Eurovision without these issues
@Firellius
@Firellius 16 күн бұрын
When AVROTROS clarified what had happened, I figured that the EBU had tried to bury the backstage problems by scapegoating Joost. Kniwing just how bad it got, and that AVROTROS' complaints preceded the DQ only strengthens that theory.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 15 күн бұрын
I don't know about that but I could see how he would have been on edge. How stressful it must have been.
@ar50000
@ar50000 16 күн бұрын
People, who have never watched Eurovision, boasting on UK radio that they voted specifically for one country.
@matchalatte42
@matchalatte42 16 күн бұрын
Is this really the kind of people the EBU wants to attract I wonder? Or do they not care who gives them money as long as they get money? :/
@didaididai207
@didaididai207 16 күн бұрын
yep, i think the ad campaign spread to the daily mail too - i don't read it ofc but i checked afterwards and they were stanning eden, lots of positive articles + interviews. the daily mail is not usually a paper that likes esc
@huaiwei
@huaiwei 16 күн бұрын
And what makes you think all those who tried to tactically vote against that specific country are true Eurovision fans? Like as if you even need "advertising" to hate on them?
@kirsh2036
@kirsh2036 16 күн бұрын
In Finland all the vocal alt-right & conservative Christian politicians posted massive pro-Isr recommendations to vote. The most popular explanations were: 1) fck the lefties, 2) fck the woke 3) poor Isr. "I've never watched ESC, but now I MUST vote." It was massive campaign. CONGRATS to Nemo, Baby Lasagna, Jerry Hall & Alyona Alyona, Slimane, Bambie Thug, Angelina Mango, Ladaniva, Marcus & Martinus & Iolanda. And Joost!
@ar50000
@ar50000 16 күн бұрын
@@didaididai207 Yes, they would normally be saying that the ESC is an outrageous waste of hard-working taxpayers' money, by Jove, and to scrap the BBC licence.
@johnwatson9879
@johnwatson9879 16 күн бұрын
Gabe diserves a honorary medal for the work he did this season
@triola3983
@triola3983 16 күн бұрын
Yes, the ha mas propaganda ministry is ready to reward him for his excellent work in the Eurovision community. If he keeps working like that, he might share the biggest prize one day with Al Jazeera.
@oscaralvarenga4391
@oscaralvarenga4391 16 күн бұрын
@@triola3983a Zionist recurring to the “victim” card? Groundbreaking.
@PanditaGamerHD
@PanditaGamerHD 16 күн бұрын
@@triola3983 Well he spoke facts, what are we gonna do. Israel is already known for lying everywhere they appear.
@kate804
@kate804 15 күн бұрын
@triola3983 - gaslight, gatekeep, broadcast. We know what *your* broadcaster, government, police and military are doing well enough!
@triola3983
@triola3983 15 күн бұрын
@@kate804 lmao cry more
@Infected_Apple
@Infected_Apple 16 күн бұрын
I'm glad for your summary because I can't even explain it on one go anymore there's so much shit here. The hypocrisy of zero tolerance is just ridiculous.
@veganangara6333
@veganangara6333 16 күн бұрын
I decided pretty early on I would boycott ESC this year but after all the random bits of news I've seen I just had to come investigate what exactly went down and... Wow. EBU just decided to self-destruct, huh? I'm really struggling to see how this could be salvaged any time soon, my condolences to Switzerland for inheriting this shitshow 😬
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 15 күн бұрын
The consensus in Finland seems to be that we dodged a bullet by not hosting this year. Good luck to Switzerland indeed
@cameronclarkhull
@cameronclarkhull 16 күн бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if the netherlands withdraws. Hope other countries follow suit if the ebu don't change their ways
@drazenbicanic3590
@drazenbicanic3590 11 күн бұрын
Throughout history, many countries have withdrawn from the competition. A significant number of Eastern/Southeastern European countries are not there because they know that they do not have equal treatment.
@nikolaivandenhoek4753
@nikolaivandenhoek4753 16 күн бұрын
Hear Hear! Don't stop speaking out before the EBU becomes another Fifa
@ElfenLied987
@ElfenLied987 16 күн бұрын
too late for that 😞
@Xeorboom
@Xeorboom 15 күн бұрын
wait, is it "hear, hear!" or "here, here!"? either would work
@DataLal
@DataLal 14 күн бұрын
@@Xeorboom It's "hear, hear!" but yeah the other option could work if you were trying to alert someone to your location.
@Hgames_RBLX
@Hgames_RBLX 14 күн бұрын
@@XeorboomIt is “Hear, hear”, but if you’re in the House of Commons, then it’s “Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer”
@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45
@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 12 күн бұрын
Or Olympics
@maijupiira9605
@maijupiira9605 16 күн бұрын
This year was absolutely trashfire, I knock a wood and say that next year can’t do much worse. But my vindictive part of myself believes this was karma (Yes I’m Finnish and Yes it’s childish)
@anabltc
@anabltc 16 күн бұрын
Hey, it's for the best - imagine hosting this shtshow! Runner up is the new winner. Trust me: our Baby Lasagna did us all a favour by not winning 😂
@haleighbearofficial
@haleighbearofficial 15 күн бұрын
I also want to mention all the hate that Silvester got by everyone because of his statement. Every single post that was mentioned about him since mentioned how he " had only said this because he wanted a better result." And "he got a taste of his own medicine" but if he wanted a better result, then WHY DID HE SAY HE WISHED IT ENDED AT THE SEMIS??????? So many artists suffered this year. None of them deserved this.... I hope there are some DRASTIC changes to the contest so that it can live on....
@Eth1994
@Eth1994 15 күн бұрын
Gåte got that treatment too. 🙁
@murderoustendencies
@murderoustendencies 14 күн бұрын
I agree. The army should have been sent to remove all the "protesters" that were threatening security everywhere. And the jeering public should've been removed from the semi-finals onward. Sylvester shouldn't have to have paid for their virtue signalling, nor any of the other contestants who were drawn into the drama by the handful of jerks who couldn't behave like adults.
@haleighbearofficial
@haleighbearofficial 14 күн бұрын
@@murderoustendencies that's right.
@in_wino_veritas
@in_wino_veritas 12 күн бұрын
He came 10th with the public, so these losers who're accusing him of being a cry baby and bitter about his results probably don't even know his actual placements. Also, this person's logic is lacking because if he is bitter about his results, then why does he wish to have stayed in the semi? But there's many trolls and bots out there. No, he just felt uncomfortable with getting on stage after Israel, with boos still audible before he entered it.
@NewStarConstellation
@NewStarConstellation 6 күн бұрын
@@murderoustendencies The army? Man, how glad I am that you are not in charge....
@ElfenLied987
@ElfenLied987 16 күн бұрын
Absolutly brillant video. EBU is rotten to the core. They can join the IBA, FIFA and the IOC. Money has destroyed them all...
@tanjanikola9489
@tanjanikola9489 16 күн бұрын
Käärijä was another victim of secret filming and a clip of him dancing near Eden Golan was posted on her IG. Käärijä had to repeatedly ask for it to be removed, until it was finally taken off the page.
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 16 күн бұрын
They they attempted to say he was dancing with Eden to push their agenda when that wasn't the fact at all and he request it got deleted and they didn't
@triola3983
@triola3983 16 күн бұрын
It wasn't secret, he literally was the near the camera lol But shame on the pro-palis for harassing someone just for dancing with an Israeli
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 16 күн бұрын
@@triola3983 no one harassed kaarija he is a national treasure
@mo4848
@mo4848 16 күн бұрын
Kaarija was harrassed my the pro hamas crowd for dancing with an israeli girl. This is the actual story here
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 16 күн бұрын
@@mo4848 proof and source darling?
@Muse4Games
@Muse4Games 16 күн бұрын
You have no idea how much it hurt to watch the final as a Dutch fan, all the jokes were not landing. Then that awful EBU song praising Martin Boo-his-face came on. I literally got a bad stomache ache from watching the finals, it hurts that much. For the first time in a long time the Netherlands basically 100% stood behind their entry. We ARE so proud of Joost and we were extremely excited to see him in the final. And they took it from him, us and all the fans too without any transparency. AT THIS TIME with the info we currently have, it still feels like it's something that could've been handled backstage with a apology from both sides. And I rather not talk about the Israel Palestine situation, but I'm gonna do it anyway. I think both sides have flaws, but I can 100% agree that Israel should've not been at Eurovision. And the way they behaved was absolutely disgusting.
@FunnyStuffFailsPranks
@FunnyStuffFailsPranks 16 күн бұрын
I still cant watch Joost’s performance now, because it hurts so bad.. but I will get over it when justice is done. I will be fine. For now, Im streaming on Spotify his song continuesly 😊to support him. He is our baby💙
@stin_irch
@stin_irch 14 күн бұрын
German neighbour here. I'm still so shocked and so sorry for you in NL! And for Joost, oc! I'm still in love with ,,Europapa", I'm still listening to it. I was 100% sure he would win this thing. I honestly believe there was something going on. Maybe someone who payed the camera woman to keep filming Joost ... Idk. Something feels off. The disqualification felt/feels so wrong. I really hope there will be justice. However it will turn out. Sorry for my english btw. I was rooting for NL and I wish you and Joost the best ❤
@jolandaspiegelenberg5130
@jolandaspiegelenberg5130 11 күн бұрын
I think Joost was getting too big. The Israeli delegation did everything they could to get him out. Probably the biggest concurrent in their eyes. (Keren Peles) got the job to do so.
@danielwoods3896
@danielwoods3896 5 күн бұрын
@@jolandaspiegelenberg5130Not everything is Israel’s fault lmao. They had nothing to do with it
@Taylor-oq3gf
@Taylor-oq3gf 16 күн бұрын
as a neurodivergent person, if youre doing something that has been communicated to not do to me, you are asking me to snap at you.
@demi3115
@demi3115 16 күн бұрын
since when is joost neurodivergent though. he has ptsd, that's something different.
@Roy-nm4nq
@Roy-nm4nq 15 күн бұрын
​@@demi3115 people can have ptsd and autism LMAOOO
@totallynottomfulp
@totallynottomfulp 15 күн бұрын
@@Roy-nm4nqjoost has autism?😭 lmao what
@jesuiskatie_
@jesuiskatie_ 15 күн бұрын
I personally haven't seen anything that suggests he's autistic but he has at least one song (life story) where he talks about having bpd as well; both ptsd and bpd could be considered as being neurodivergent, there's not a clear consensus on this yet but it's not an uncommon 'opinion' in the academic world either.
@zagorskaewelina
@zagorskaewelina 15 күн бұрын
I have autism and adhd and have been misdiagnosed as bpd in the past. Most people wouldn't consider me autistic, the presentation of autism in adults with average and above average inteligence, especially those with coexisting adhd is far from the stereotype of an autistic person. New reasearch sugests that the symptoms associated with bpd very ofter occur in adhd-ers who developed destructive coping mechanisms.
@auxerae
@auxerae 17 күн бұрын
cornald in the thumbnail i am cackling
@macalauresmuse
@macalauresmuse 16 күн бұрын
Didn't he call Osterdahl 'wonder boy' or something like that. It's funny but it's really not funny if you know what I mean?
@auxerae
@auxerae 16 күн бұрын
​@@macalauresmuse honestly no clue. haven't really involved myself in the festival since 2021 because of israels involvement and i also boycotted this year. if that's true then that's tragically ironic
@-_YouMayFind_-
@-_YouMayFind_- 16 күн бұрын
Yes he did at the show after he got booed​@@macalauresmuse
@JaneFokster
@JaneFokster 16 күн бұрын
@@macalauresmuse Yes, very sarcastically while Osterdahl was being booed.
@LiovaElise
@LiovaElise 15 күн бұрын
@@macalauresmuse Salty Cornald was a treat
@rupertschwarz1176
@rupertschwarz1176 16 күн бұрын
After a week has past I must say, that beside all that shitstorm: songwise 2024 was maybe the best year ever. And the performances had been incredible good.
@Herr_SW5
@Herr_SW5 16 күн бұрын
The songs and performances this year were indeed amazing. So for this horrendous shitshow to go down in what should have been one of the best years ever was particularly devastating.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 15 күн бұрын
Sadly, they were overshadowed by everything else.
@labradoriteatheart
@labradoriteatheart 14 күн бұрын
Only Israel' song, performance and choreography was good!
@Coops1985
@Coops1985 14 күн бұрын
@@labradoriteatheart a lot of songs were good
@Xeno_fqxb
@Xeno_fqxb 13 күн бұрын
@@labradoriteatheart not even pretending
@bingbong6066
@bingbong6066 15 күн бұрын
Not protecting creative people that are quite often neurodivergent and traumatized. Is a thing we should really look into. Cancelling people for single misstakes where there is no pattern in that behavior is simply a step too far.
@lulumoon3636
@lulumoon3636 14 күн бұрын
Completely agree. I'm a neurodivergent creative person myself & I think we definitely need to be more vigilant about protecting those us
@cl8804
@cl8804 12 күн бұрын
completely agree. i am also a BOT beep boop
@AREA-jp8vb
@AREA-jp8vb 11 күн бұрын
It goes beyond Joost, they allowed all of the artists and press to get bullied by one countries delegation. The delegation clearly wanted Joost banned and they found a way to do it. And if they would’ve let what happened with Joost slide they would’ve tried to find another way to get him out.
@RichD1
@RichD1 3 күн бұрын
I agree but is this related to anything about this video or are you a bot
@bingbong6066
@bingbong6066 Күн бұрын
Why would I be a bot lmao.
@MiriamACNH
@MiriamACNH 15 күн бұрын
The only fun part of this years Eurovision was the panic in Martin Österdahls eyes when he had to announce the Dutch jury points. And the obvious love the artists had for each other. For once the online ESC fans were united no matter which country they were from
@MellowMylo
@MellowMylo 12 күн бұрын
All the artists really did their best and kept their heads as high as possible, despite being victims of unsolicited filming
@anelkia27
@anelkia27 11 күн бұрын
Yes the artists seemed lovely to each other and I'm glad they all got along❤
@Paturages
@Paturages 16 күн бұрын
long live Eurovision, fuck the EBU
@williamdfr1715
@williamdfr1715 16 күн бұрын
Other way around I'm afraid, Eurovision is the EBU's product and they can do what they like with it
@anabltc
@anabltc 16 күн бұрын
@@williamdfr1715 but EBU is just an organisation, while Eurovision has a huge brand value and it's been so for decades. It would be really stupid to waste that
@williamdfr1715
@williamdfr1715 16 күн бұрын
@@anabltc I understand, but again technically speaking the brand Eurovision is very different to the Song Contest and would survive without it. Anyhow, it's TV, a medium of the past. Don't know what country you are in, but think of department stores. Did we ever think that Woolworths, Debenhams, Hertie, V&D would not be there ? Brands aren't eternal
@Xeno_fqxb
@Xeno_fqxb 13 күн бұрын
@@williamdfr1715 i don't see any benefits messing up esc like that, i'd say it still sponsor money that gave them no choice.
@ribbitrally
@ribbitrally 16 күн бұрын
you standing up against an organization like this is iconic actually and u deserve all the support ure getting!!! insanely good job, both of u!! ❤️
@ejlens
@ejlens 16 күн бұрын
Martin Osterdahl has to resign. He is responsible for this shitshow - that was largely forseeable.
@MultiSky7
@MultiSky7 16 күн бұрын
Nope. It's not Martin, it's the mon--ee of their sponsor. When you are paid, to shut up when they say.
@lafabias1876
@lafabias1876 15 күн бұрын
​​@@MultiSky7Martin signed that sponsorship contract in 2020 and put the ESC "no-politics policy" in the hands of an isreali company and EBU's independence down the drain. It's a conflict of interest to have as a general sponsor a company from one of the participating countries, especiall from one that's famous for meddling in every aspect of life and furthering their political interest by all available means.
@shroomyesc
@shroomyesc 15 күн бұрын
Probably won't happen as he's responsible for more than just Eurovision but Noel Curran should go too.
@jani11
@jani11 12 күн бұрын
No, it's the Muslim hate which needs to be gone by the next Eurosong, if this competition is to survive.
@dandelionhood4508
@dandelionhood4508 16 күн бұрын
I've been watching Eurovision since I was a child and this contest has given me so much joy and hope. I'm not exaggerating when I say that some days, the only thing that kept me going was knowing that Eurovision would be in a few weeks and that I have something to look forward to and to keep going for. But this year... I can't explain it in any other way than my heart breaking in real time. It may sound a little naive, but it felt like the moment you realise that adults are anything but perfect and that you'll never be able to fully trust again (I know, never trust coorporations, lesson learned). I just don't think I'll ever be able to watch the contest with the same joy again, especially not if the EBU fails to clean up the mess that they have produced. I originally planned to go to next year's edition for the first time ever, but at this point I'm not even sure if I'm going to watch it
@tjyoutube4654
@tjyoutube4654 15 күн бұрын
same here
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato 15 күн бұрын
100% all this. If this is not cleaned up in the most delicate way, Eurovision will never recover. Heartbreaking.
@evastapaard2462
@evastapaard2462 15 күн бұрын
I feel you!
@zeljkomlatkovic1831
@zeljkomlatkovic1831 13 күн бұрын
I fully support everything written. I will never again feel the genuine excitement that happened during the voting. Now I know that the result is pre-arranged and that political games are destroying the essence of this competition. I'm so sorry, because it was one of my favorite things. Now, unfortunately, only a bitter memory.
@-hum-
@-hum- 11 күн бұрын
I was going to write, almost exactly the same comment you did!!
@LadyStardust97
@LadyStardust97 16 күн бұрын
More excited for this video than I was for the grand final
@joebleasdale5557
@joebleasdale5557 16 күн бұрын
My summary of this year’s Eurovision is: fuck the EBU, but viva Rai 2. When that televote result came out, I was in Euroclub, having dipped in and out of the press centre that week and witnessed (and heard anecdotally) some awful shit. That was when I realised that was enough for one ridiculous year. I took that early flight that you contemplated because I’ve learned to put my own mental sanity first as a neurodivergent person, and it was so difficult and sad to watch the safe space I’d been so proud to have been a part of since I was 7 years old turn into the epicentre of an international crisis. I’m not a conflict journalist, I do this for fun out of my own pocket. With any hope, there will be reprisals for this utter cockup. Maybe Netflix could commission a documentary. “Surviving Malmö: A Week in Eurotrash”. Or something to that degree. I have stories, I’m sure many people do, not to mention the artists and delegations who were affected. Does anyone have any production / journalist contacts?
@didaididai207
@didaididai207 16 күн бұрын
i don't, but i would pay good money to watch that documentary
@emdove
@emdove 16 күн бұрын
It would've been my first Eurovision on location. I stayed home. I'd definitely read a book of collected experiences of this years ESC, or maybe a master thesis...
@marcopolo1528
@marcopolo1528 15 күн бұрын
Why are you angry at Viva Rai 2!, a show presented by Italian comedian Rosario Fiorello?
@joebleasdale5557
@joebleasdale5557 15 күн бұрын
@@marcopolo1528 Sorry, didn’t make that clear: I’m thanking Rai 2 for publishing the results and basically becoming kingmakers. Probably should’ve uncapitalised the “Viva” to make it more obvious - I love Rai 2 and Viva Rai 2 is one of the most oddly hilarious things I’ve ever seen 😂
@Charlizzie
@Charlizzie 15 күн бұрын
23:07 Thank you for acknowledging Joost as a neurodivergent. Something one country is trying to mock at. Ableists!
@daszkiewicz_borisovicz
@daszkiewicz_borisovicz 16 күн бұрын
Gabe, thank you for being vocal about this chaos. I hope you get well soon.
@JeSuisRene
@JeSuisRene 16 күн бұрын
13:04 My theory at the time was the Italian delegation telling her to do this to distract, as the EBU weren’t particularly happy with RAI’s reveal of the televote results.
@IndonesischeBapao
@IndonesischeBapao 16 күн бұрын
This year was a fever dream, uhm I mean fever nightmare
@wldnemesis
@wldnemesis 16 күн бұрын
This year's theme, 'UNITED BY MUSIC,' seemed irrelevant, and with tensions running so HIGH, I was expecting to see punches flying around. I'm so sad for the whole thing. The Swedish police must have been overwhelmed by these unprecedented incidents, which ruined the usually good spirits you find in these events. Sometimes, I think that what brought the Eurovision to life is what might one day destroy it.
@Merecir
@Merecir 11 күн бұрын
To get a feel for the tension, realize that the Swedish police even brought in earthquake disaster experts. -In case they needed competence for sifting through huge piles of rubble from collapsed buildings...
@montrealkino
@montrealkino 15 күн бұрын
It’s especially sad cause I found the quality of 90% of the songs were just so good this year
@TheLatokuivaaja
@TheLatokuivaaja 16 күн бұрын
I totally agree with Norwegian media, this year's contest was a shitshow and I didn't even watch it. Thanks for all the extra info from behind the scenes.
@sidge9614
@sidge9614 16 күн бұрын
Great work putting all of the information in one neat video! Having to sift through posts, many of which were inaccurate, on the day of it all happening was hectic to say the least.
@clairecraig3599
@clairecraig3599 16 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your commentary here. I was there and agree with everything you have said.
@michaeldeangray
@michaeldeangray 15 күн бұрын
Bro, this video is so good, so info-packed. Thanks for making it. I went to my first Eurovision in-person this year, and it was ridiculous how chaotic the atmosphere always seemed to be. At least I got to meet you for 5 minutes that first Sunday night in Euroglam! Thank you for being so lovely, Gabe. ~ Michael
@pineapplecake7140
@pineapplecake7140 16 күн бұрын
You are undoubtedly the best person around for this job: summarising 10th of May, the doomsday blue that Bambie warned us about
@wkwtse
@wkwtse 16 күн бұрын
Thank goodness you've put this together in such a succinct and articulate way! Thank you!
@GJKooijman
@GJKooijman 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and featuring some of my reporting, Gabe. Really appreciate it and the very thorough and factual video.
@escgabe
@escgabe 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for everything GJ!!!
@auxerae
@auxerae 16 күн бұрын
thanks for the great video!! i am so sorry you had to endure so much that you yourself had to file complaints and considered going home early
@aekelly
@aekelly 16 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you for all of that information. I hope the organizers can take responsibility for all their mistakes.
@matthijs95
@matthijs95 16 күн бұрын
Thank good a lot of countries sang in their native languages! This made it way more interesting!
@toverenmetnaaldendraad
@toverenmetnaaldendraad 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I'm sorry for everyone who had to go through this.
@ComedyPlastic
@ComedyPlastic 15 күн бұрын
We need "I survived 10 May" merch.
@paperplain
@paperplain 16 күн бұрын
What a video! Its everything that needed to be said, can this go viral please? #justiceforjoost
@sappho4828
@sappho4828 16 күн бұрын
i don't actually have anything to say that you didn't already talk about (and better than i can have) but this was a fantastic video and thank you for making it
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 16 күн бұрын
I just hope Nemo is okay and can still enjoy and celebrate their win! It's so deserved, the artists were incredible this year and they deserve the most support ❤
@mysticgirl916
@mysticgirl916 16 күн бұрын
Nemo's been doing press in the UK right now, including an appearance on "The One Show". The song debuted at #18 on the UK singles chart
@925263
@925263 14 күн бұрын
Nah, their song AND singing were both bad. They simply cannot do the high notes they kept forcing., They obviously didn't deserve the treatment they got, but they didn't deserve to win, either.
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 14 күн бұрын
@@925263 do we have the same hearing? Because those operatic notes are incredible and I could never! 😅 every time I attempted to sing them my voice cracks 🥲🤣
@verenabecker2724
@verenabecker2724 13 күн бұрын
​@@925263I am curious as to what your qualifications are to make that statement so confidently. I was watching the contest with a friend who's a professional musician and music educator, and the way she evaluated Nemo's performance is, um... extremely different from your take.
@mitchystuff
@mitchystuff 12 күн бұрын
@@925263 I don't know what version you heard, but the one I heard was really good. They're an amazing singer and dancer, and they did hit the notes. Their performance was great! Also, the song is an absolute banger, I listened to it before the contest began and I'm still listening to it almost daily!
@silvialittlewolf
@silvialittlewolf 4 күн бұрын
I actually anticipated to defend the Israeli delegation but after what you have described, they behaved unacceptably. Why in the world were there no consequences for them? I truly hope this will be corrected by next time.
@matylda4675
@matylda4675 15 күн бұрын
This is so frustrating to listen to… It’s just heartbreaking seeing the most beloved event being turned into such a shitshow, with the most important aspect of it - the artists and the press - being glossed over by the organizers. Sending so much love and support to all the people who have had to endure harassment, all of you deserve better ♥️
@Andre_stats_0111
@Andre_stats_0111 16 күн бұрын
Very good summarisation. Thank you Gabe for all your hard work. 👍👍
@Elsabom
@Elsabom 16 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! It was really well explained and gave a really clear picture of all the events
@zosig23
@zosig23 16 күн бұрын
I got Eurovision tickets as my 18th birthday present, it was my biggest dream to go since I was a child and I finnaly managed to go for the very first time- Dont know if I ruined it permanently for myself, but I dont exactly regret my sf1 afternoon and sf2 afternoon tickets either. Im a weird limbo of disgusted by the ebu but also so enamored by the effort put in by the artists- Seeing Estonia live right by the barrier while standing legit healed me- But other stuff during sf2 were definitely well.. There was booing, there was screaming, arguable I only heard the commotion as I was at the very front of the crowd, but as I read in the news shit went down behind me, but man was it uh.. wild..? There was definitely an air of nervousness during that day compared to sf1 and although its not super related- I will never forget walking out of the arena after sf2 alone and trying to meet my mom who was shopping in the emporia mall while I was inside- And hearing the mall evacuation alarm before I could even approach the building. I hate that my mind immediately jumped to the worst possiible case scenario that I might never see her again. People shouldn't feel like this during Eurovision, people should never have to feel like this anywhere.
@eurotwink9740
@eurotwink9740 16 күн бұрын
This was the first Eurovision I attended in person after years of dreaming about it from living on the other side of the world, and honestly I feel so sad. While I think it was absolutely the right thing to do, I never thought the EBU would actually ban Israel. They are a collective of public broadcasters responsible to the interests of their governments, who rely on Israel as a foothold in the Middle East. So I thought maybe by coming, now that the opportunity finally arose, we could at least celebrate the core values of the contest and in doing so, project a glimmer of light in times of growing darkness, so to speak. Maybe this was naive to begin with. This was one of the best travel experiences of my life, and that came down to the amazing community around this contest, artists and fans alike. Yet this whole thing was cast over a backdrop of hypocrisy and quasi-authoritarian decisions from the EBU that I think made a complete mockery of the contest’s spirit, and looking back now that I’ve had time to process all the shitfuckery that went on that week, I can’t help but feel…dirty, for having given my money to help orchestrate this whole thing, and for celebrating and documenting it all for my friends to see on social media, pretending to champion peace and unity. It feels like I’ve made just as much as much a hypocrite of myself for partaking, and whenever I think about it I just get disgusted and angry. It brings me immense pain to say this, as someone who has loved this contest obsessively since I was a child; but if we don’t see immense changes over the next 12 months-which frankly, in the current climate, I don’t think are a given-I don’t know if I can continue supporting this next year. And that really, really sucks.
@mo4848
@mo4848 15 күн бұрын
Could you elaborate on the quasi-authoritarian decisions?
@tadesubaru1383
@tadesubaru1383 16 күн бұрын
Finally, the video I have been dying to see. Followed the entire ordeal on twitter, it was complete madness
@chelli6555
@chelli6555 15 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for giving so much detail and talking about your own experiences as well. It really puts it into perspective just how much went down and how f-ed up the EBU treated contestants, journalists, and everyone else present this year. I only hope that mistakes will not be repeated next year.
@myeclecticself
@myeclecticself 16 күн бұрын
Great reporting! I’m still shocked at how bad the EBUs responses this week have been.
@SarahMargaretMullen
@SarahMargaretMullen 16 күн бұрын
I went to Eurovision this year, and it was my third competition. It is telling that my experience was very similar to yours. I was at Euroclub on Tuesday night and there was a sense of unease. The fans from a certain country were in Bambies face standing with their flags in a confrontational way. Irish fans could not get to them. That was my first and last time going to Euroclub. As the week went on, the sense of unease grew from the Thursday, security everywhere. I was relieved to leave Malmo and stay in Copenhagen. This year I actually don't have PED. I'm also thinking I will give it a skip next year unless there is a huge change within the EBU. After the event I've heard so many stories of fans getting abuse, as Ireland is known as a pro 🍉 country. I didn't feel comfortable wearing Eurovision merch or my countries colours. The Irish media has also been full of hate. So much homophobic comments aimed at fans at the contest, and transphobic/religious slurs aimed at Bambie. Eurovision is supposed to be fun, where you mingle with other fans from different countries. It wasn't that this year unfortunately. Not forgetting Joost Klein, people not being able to bring in a non binary flag, etc. I'm actually emotionally exhausted. And may I add, that countries delegation/ journalists were harassing artists at pre parties. This should have been nipped in the bud long before the actual competition
@ElfenLied987
@ElfenLied987 16 күн бұрын
THe hate on Bambie's social media pages is shocking and they seem to stem from one country/religious group. Truely shocking. bambie quote "love will always defeat hate"
@SarahMargaretMullen
@SarahMargaretMullen 16 күн бұрын
@@ElfenLied987 yes it's coming from that group, plus the far right in Ireland. I met Bambie briefly over in Malmo and they seem very humble and quietly spoken, to see them getting this much hate is awful
@Olivier-GM
@Olivier-GM 16 күн бұрын
About flags: even the european flag was forbiden. I saw in the news tonight (Arte TV) there will be an official complain from the EU MPs (except far right parties) to the EBU.
@hannah74863
@hannah74863 15 күн бұрын
You’re all haters look in the mirror. Jealous of Israel much?
@SarahMargaretMullen
@SarahMargaretMullen 15 күн бұрын
@@hannah74863 this is a very juvenile response to what I've just written.
@michellemaine2719
@michellemaine2719 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, I did not know the extent of all the problems that occurred. This was very eye opening.
@HaraldSeiwert
@HaraldSeiwert 15 күн бұрын
So Cornald Maas from the Dutch delegation had indeed the right words to them when he said "F*** the EBU"
@CanelaAguila
@CanelaAguila 13 күн бұрын
He actually said "I would almost say 'fuck the ebu', and hey, looks like I just did"
@ItsJustValHere
@ItsJustValHere 11 күн бұрын
@@CanelaAguilaDaamn lmao
@tanjanikola9489
@tanjanikola9489 16 күн бұрын
A rightwing Finnish politician Rydman also encouraged people to vote for Israel. If you look at Spotify charts, Hurricane is nowhere near the top, and in fact it is below 200 in some daily charts for countries that gave Israel 12 points.
@mysticgirl916
@mysticgirl916 16 күн бұрын
The only songs that really seem to be making waves are "The Code", "Europapa" and "Rim Tim Tagi Dim"
@florenna
@florenna 16 күн бұрын
I must say that I am truly ashamed for my fellow party mates in this issue - *please know that this was & is in no way the official party line of PS!!* (Can't speak of Kokoomus though.) Just a very private & personal view of a couple of people. I for one would never support Israel in this, and I am a PS party member. (And please stop talking of "right-wing", I am not that and will never be.)
@tanjanikola9489
@tanjanikola9489 15 күн бұрын
@@florenna The politics of PS is not left, or centre, but actually far right. It was not founded as such, but it has become a far right populist party and drives policies along that line. There are plenty of articles about how the party is now seen, especially since the elections. Certainly there are a wide range of people in the party and some may not agree with the current actions. I'm sure not everyone supports Israel's war in Gaza and would never comment on social media about voting for them in ESC. However, a lot of people who didn't even listen to the song did vote and most likely spent even 20€ for the 20 votes to make sure Israel gets 12 points from Finland - and it did!
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 15 күн бұрын
​​@@florenna PS is populist nationalist that is classified in the EU as far-right. That usually refers to social politics but as Purra says, the party is now also right-wing in the economical sense, cutting social benefits and the like. I'm intentionally withholding moral judgement and my personal opinion. This is simply the truth. Which, by the way, authoritarians want to obscure in order to harm our democracies.
@reneevalkenburg2
@reneevalkenburg2 14 күн бұрын
In the Netherlands too, 2 rightwing politicians that are currently forming a government after winning the elections, stated on X that they would vote for Israel.
@sjelos
@sjelos 16 күн бұрын
Gabe, you have helped us SO MUCH in waddling through that entire chaos. For that, you have my immense gratitude. This video was stressful, with step by step PTSD of the whole thing. Thank you. Hopefully, with the number of complaints rising (especially the recent one by RTVSLO) you will soon be able to make a much brighter recap of even more recent events.
@JaneFokster
@JaneFokster 16 күн бұрын
Honestly, most Dutch fans I talked to and have seen online want the Netherlands to withdraw from Eurovision for at LEAST one year. More if the EBU doesn't change enough. NL have been participants in the contest from the very start and Eurovision is generally very popular here, but what happened to Joost has really left a deep wound that won't heal easily. I'm sure people from other countries would feel the same if it had happened to their entry. Especially when that entry was hugely popular, like Joost's. I didn't watch the final at all, btw. Couldn't. Only saw some clips of the public booing Osterdahl online. That felt good, but no real consolation, of course.
@detox965
@detox965 16 күн бұрын
Disqualifying Joost was a bloody shame. It left a bitter taste for all of us, all over Europe. As for the rest of the ESC 2024 -- in my opinion, when an organization violates its own rules, it deserves a general boycott by all members. They showed us money is above all 'European values'. And let us not forget, the viewers paid a lot of money for the privilege of voting.
@shakz86
@shakz86 15 күн бұрын
Joosts song has charted quite highly in several charts In Europe. Higher than most other eurovision entrants.
@rockstar78970
@rockstar78970 9 күн бұрын
totally agree, it's so disgusting what they have done to him 🤢🤮
@dolsimon
@dolsimon 14 күн бұрын
I feel like this is the video I've been looking for. This video clearly states the bad vibes that were around the eurovision song festival perfectly. It also was very clear about the Joost klein Controvercy, and other controversies that took place during the event. This all from an perspective of someone who was actually in the middle of it all. I really appreciate you making this video, and how clear and in depth this video actually was! As a dutchy a video like this is exactly what I was looking for about the whole situation! Thanks for making this video, and best of luck!! ❤
@aoifegallagher116
@aoifegallagher116 15 күн бұрын
Summed up perfectly 👏 I really hope EBU watch this video a massive reality check is needed. Hopefully they make the necessary changes that a year like this never happens again.
@Steurovision
@Steurovision 16 күн бұрын
Massive gratitude and appreciation to you for doing this video. I know it can’t have been easy for you. I was much more on the periphery of the bubble than you all week and still feel completely traumatised by what went down. ❤
@missAsteegs
@missAsteegs 10 күн бұрын
It’s funny that the tasteless EBU press releases are still ongoing to this day. They are incredibly proud of all the streams this year, while the song that was the most streamed got disqualified. But of course, nothing is said about that.
@nutellamaeulchen2042
@nutellamaeulchen2042 15 күн бұрын
Thank you Gabe for getting me through this whole troublesome time and creating such amazing videos that really lit up my mood !! Amazing work 💕
@Hinamorineko
@Hinamorineko 15 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I was in the arena and I never felt so stressed in my life. I'm still not over how traumatizing this week was...
@nicoladunn1427
@nicoladunn1427 16 күн бұрын
Great video Gabe. Lets pray things change massively for 2025! And we can go back to enjoying the best week if the year.
@evan-t-s
@evan-t-s 17 күн бұрын
And to think that this could've all been avoided had a certain country sat on the sidelines this year...
@mirisu5639
@mirisu5639 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, even though Joost's disqualification allegedly had nothing to do with Israel, I still feel like their participation put all the other contestants on edge because of all the tension it provoked in the city, in the arena and in the entire ESC community. So, on some level, I would say that Israel's participation had something to do with Joost's disqualification, even though it might have been far from the main factor.
@mo4848
@mo4848 16 күн бұрын
Or certain people decided to be less vile (you)
@huaiwei
@huaiwei 16 күн бұрын
Perhaps if lefties are less antisemitic, this whole circus would have been avoided too.
@rexberkova7328
@rexberkova7328 16 күн бұрын
@@mirisu5639 "Allegedly", yes but. Joost being one of the people most vocal about not agreeing with Isreal participating could have very well played into how quilt-free EBU dropped him. When Eden was asked in a conference if she is "Not afraid of her attendance putting other contestants in danger with her presence", and the staff immediately told her she does Not have to answer that, only Joost piped up with "Why not." This year was Heavily Pro-Israel, no wonder with Morocanoil being their lead sponsor- from banning Palestine flags and any show of protest from the contestants, to giving Eden fake cheers and letting Isreal get away with that nasty "kidnapping contestants till they apologize to Eden" skit... Would not be surprised if this was Eurovision just trying to clean up the mess, and boot out Joost to keep Morocanoil happy, with the camera thing being just a very convenient excuse.
@macalauresmuse
@macalauresmuse 16 күн бұрын
​@@huaiwei perhaps if people didn't make sweeping generalisations and fact free statements yeah yeah blah blah.
@Cikeb
@Cikeb 15 күн бұрын
The Israeli public broadcaster is not a free player if the president of Israel can pressure them like that. The president should not be able to intervene like that.
@user-mf3bd5yo1f
@user-mf3bd5yo1f 14 күн бұрын
President in Israel is just a symbolic office with no actual powers so he couldn't force them to do anything just to ask.
@in_wino_veritas
@in_wino_veritas 12 күн бұрын
Their neutral broadcaster was also shut down in 2017 and has since been replaced by the propaganda outlet KAN.
@tomerik112
@tomerik112 15 күн бұрын
Nothing will change as long as Moroccanoil is the main sponsor of the event. It is an Israeli company cosmetics company based in Tel Aviv, nothing to do with Morocco.
@matt9999
@matt9999 14 күн бұрын
Hm. Surprised it isn't actually Moroccan
@Nadia1989
@Nadia1989 13 күн бұрын
Sounds like Mihoyo, who are Chinese but chose a Japanese sounding name.
@in_wino_veritas
@in_wino_veritas 12 күн бұрын
Not only that, they also approve of their right-wing government.
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato
@Mozzarella-and-Tomato 9 күн бұрын
I find it so weird that Eurovision's main sponsor is a company called Moroccan Oil. Just seems like there's too many things wrong with it
@ilovefrance1976
@ilovefrance1976 7 күн бұрын
Sounds like b.s.
@xliza5242x
@xliza5242x 17 күн бұрын
I'm so here for this, looking forward to the 5-part iceberg dissecting this whole season😅 post-premiere: this video was everything I've hoped for, my heart goes out to all artists involved but especially OUR EUROPAPA🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
@bartusvermeulen4018
@bartusvermeulen4018 16 күн бұрын
WOW!!!! I am stunned by this video. This was an incredible recap of all that happened in Malmö during the week of the Eurovision Song Contest. I am impressed by this video. Fantastic job. A lot of people believe the Netherlands was sacrificed and Joost Klein got screwed by the EBU.Much love from the Netherlands
@MicaelaQueirozCardoso
@MicaelaQueirozCardoso 16 күн бұрын
So great to have that info by schedule of the important moments! Thanks 😜 agree completly!
@leonex45
@leonex45 16 күн бұрын
Excellent job this year Gabe, I hope everything goes better so you can continue sharing your ideas and analysis with us about the constest. Thi swas my first eurovision, and well I am quite sad for everything that happened and how the good music was mostly a second thought during all this disaster. Really happy with Nemo's victory, they were my favorite since the beggining.
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