Seconded.

ABSOLUTELY 💯

man what a name for a book lols

I think the problem is not in using the term red flags, but in the way it’s perceived : an honest signal the abuser sends about people about who he is, making the victim responsible of their own abuse if they don’t see then or don’t take them into account and avoid the person. And she points how this understanding is totally misunderstanding the relationship of abuse and the psychological mechanisms, without saying it puts the blame and responsibility entirely on the victim. I think if we were not living in an apologetic society, and a sexist society, that’s obsessed about merit and individual responsibility above all else, the red flag term would not be so misunderstood and misused. But it unfortunately is. I don’t think it’s a reason to put it in the trash entirely but there is definitely something to do about that. Also even if the term red flag would not exist another term talking about the same behaviors and signs would exist in its place, it wouldn’t erase this reality. But it would maybe set society’s understanding even more backward because not only would you need to be more informed about a word you would need to change your vocabulary and use another and if you don’t know the new term it can pose problems to communicate and that’s the key here.

Who did the damage in your childhood… mom or dad, may I ask ?

Red flags can be a desperate attempt of survivors at trying to prevent this from happening again. It's not a way to blame or to guilt survivors, but I see how you could see it that way.

Rachel is the red flag 🚩

Good for you but u missed out on this red fleg.Evan rahel wood and ilma Gore concocted these lies against Marylin Manson.They are the reall narsisists here and red flags.Do your reseach before pouring your soul in these comments.She a fraud.

She IS the abuser. Look at the evidence.

Evan was an adult when she was with Marilyn and consented to being in a relationship with him. Those of us her age who remember when they were together remember how she loved the attention being with him at the height of his fame. It's a shame she would wait until decades later to say anything conveniently when the statute of limitations is up. Also her activist girlfriend was posting fake documents on twitter and you should see her tweets, they are wild. They could still sue each other in court and allow the court to see the documents. Innocent until proven guilty

All psychobabble aside, Wood was an *adult* at the time, so she *consented*. If she changed her mind, years after the fact, that's her problem.

@@myword1000 where there in coercion there is no consent.

@@michellechristina8770 There was no "coercion". There is deception. Evan Rachel Wood is a Liar. #ProsecuteFalseAccusers

@@Willowtree82to add to that, she also spoke highly of Manson. She did an interview 5 years after they separated so 2015, where she talked about how Manson made her feel so liberated and free and although they weren’t quite right for each other, she’d never trade her relationship with him for anything and she valued everything he taught her. She also mentioned being raped by a bar owner and ex bf in the same interview which is weird to acknowledge her rape and speak highly of the person (who she later accuses of that rape) in the same interview. She is a messy mess. I’m actually working on a video of her because she lies a lot, even in her gender activism and I’m calling her on it! I mean this woman had the nerve to publicly call Kobe Bryant a rapist on the day he and his daughter died a horrific death. She’s an evil person.

Her experience matches mine too, because she IS the narcissist. She's doing what 'my' narcissist did so well- projecting the things she's done as if they happened to her... and she's lying about plenty of other things too. This is proven. She's a certified #metoohoaxer and eventually the rest of her supporters with a mind of their own will find out for themselves. Just takes a little research... #JusticeforMarilynManson

You do realize she’s lying right? There is no proof that anything she says happened. As a matter two of her witnesses have recanted and reported being pressured FATALITY

There are two types of people who can describe accurately the tactics of a malignant narcissist. One of those is the victims who have won the knowledge the hard way, backed up by their own extensive research. The other type doesn't have to do much research because they are just describing themselves. Evan Rachel Wood is very likely the latter. Do some decent reserch on this case, there is some great analysis right here on KZfaq, and then consider which type you think Evan is and who is really the victim in this case.

@@richardchappell930 What I find shocking is that Dr Ramani is totally taken in by Evan's playing victim and she is supposed to be an expert on Narcissism.

Richard is spot on!

They are very sick yes

You don't have to take my word for it, but the reason she knows it so well is because she was the perpetrator. She's a great actress and a cunning liar, but the truth always comes out.

@@adifferentanimal1250 and out of textbooks.

@@juniper9799 and Google searches with the help of Ashley Ilma-Gore.

@@adifferentanimal1250yeah of course an 18 year old teenager totally took advantage of a 37 year old grown man 😂😂😂 are you out of your mind??

@@microbito66 and you're out of your mind if you really think that some pretty young 18-year old can't manipulate and control a 37 year-old man. GET REAL. Do some damn research, face facts, and stop denying plausibility.

I think people's bullshit detectors improve as they get older. She was only 18, naive, rebellious, and he saw her coming. I think he showed her what he wanted her to see. And 35-year-old Evan wouldn't give someone like Brian the time of day. 35-year-old evan would be like, "why are you acting and dressing like someone who wants to shock the adults when you're almost 40?" and she would have his number when he tries to manipulate her.

I am sure that part is real when she talks about it. The media was really disgusting towards her when she was dating him. They have no problem blaming the woman for a cheating man or shaming women about their sexuality and relationships. Entertainment media is despicable and cruel.

It’s all lies. It’s a story she & Ilma Gore concocted - #metoohoax ! Trying to present yourself as the feminist heroine is self serving and cruel. She’s using and delegitimizing true victims. Don’t be fooled. She and her ex-girlfriend have caused so much pain for so many people and they are totally unfazed

@@judithflom6366they don’t need that excuse to blame her, but it makes it a lot easier for them.

Bottom line is, her ex-Brian Warner, aka Marilyn Manson, is an avowed Satanist.

She lost custody of her kid. She forged a letter from an FBI agent. She has been caught in several lies. When someone is a proven liar, they can’t be trusted

This feels like a warm embrace. Thanks for the accurate description. I believe her. Possibly those actions were the efforts of a very young person, trying to escape. I don't know. But based on my personal experience, everything she's describing is very real. I've lived it and know her responses are genuine. Anyone trying to mimic the experiences of others, would never gain this authenticity. I think you have to have lived it.

it's out of the BOOKS!!! @@wearestardst

@@wearestardst What authenticity?? They're stories from people like you- being relayed by an extremely sociopathic and manipulative actress.

You nailed it!!! Best that they leave!!! Soo much safer!!!! This a 100x!!! Many do t get it until they sit in this hell hole and until they are in the ditches fighting for their children and so much more like our own sanity they have no right to judge! Their talk is cheep and let’s see them escape with these amazing resources! No matter how much money or resources or well there is that narcissist will make sure you have no access to any of it. This includes any friendships or family members that could help you, and they start from the beginning as their Lavonda gone farming, you just thinking the shit behind your back from day one!!!!! This is why people don’t understand it’s more complicated than people want to admit

Please talk to someone safe about your experience, your abuser won't give you the acknowledgement you deserve, and worse, you can end up entangled in his lies and justifications again. Healing just goes in the opposite direction.

Thank you I really appreciate your response I quickly learned/realized that having a conversation was not the right choice as it infuriated me and felt like I once did was not good for my mental health what so ever highly do not recommend the abuser will always paint a false picture to only make them look good 😞

That’s an interesting proposition, the overlap or differences between alcoholism/substance abuse and narcissistic personality. I wonder if he might really not remember because of blackouts. Really depends what he was doing. I’m sorry you went through it however you classify it.

@@judithflom6366 I can see how that may be confusing he could have definitely blacked out as he literally did not remember much at all. He is also very much a narcissist we have a 14 year-old together and he’s been sober for 13 of those years, and he chooses to share his recollection of our situation from 14 years ago with our daughter, which is terrible because of many different reasons number one he forgets all of what happened and it’s painting a specific picture of the incident and none of it’s true also to speak about those things with our 14-year-old daughter is super narcissistic. I believe adult issues should stay with the adults. Never put on a child so much more to say. Also just a friendly remider make sure you really know who you are having a child with in my case his narcissistic tendencies didn’t come out until after I was pregnant much love protect your mental health 🥰

Narcissism runs on denial and a fantasy world where they are perfect. It's part of the disorder. They are incapable of seeing your side

Do they have an anti-lying law, something to hold manipulative scheming degenerates like Evan Rachel Wood to account?

Sounds stupid.

Never heard of anything so stupid in all of my life!

Go Sweden! ❤️ Geez here in the US, that would take out most of our government and corporate executives! 🤬😡

It’s moronic, infantilizing adults is harmful and stupid

ERW is no victim. She's a liar. Phoenix Rising is just so much manipulative lying trash.

And please in future refrain from referring to innocent men as "abusers", because that makes YOU a liar too.

​@@myword1000 Let me draw this to you: Brian was 35 and Evan was 18. But you'll say they dated when she was 19 and he was 36, so I'll use these numbers. I'm almost 30 and even if I dated the most vicious and manipulative 19 years old, I'd still have the upper hand in the relationship, because of my experience with meeting and dating people in the past. Now imagine Brian, a 36 years old that has traveled the world, has met hundreds of thousands of people, has had a long career at this point plus has had many more long term relationships than a 19 years old would ever think of having. He was not the victim. He had the control in the relationship, he knew what he was doing and knew the consequences of his acts. He had a full developed frontal cortex. Again, even if she was the most vicious and manipulative 19 years old, he could even use this to his favor, or he could simply stop seeing her, due to his experiences. Evan, by the other hand, was just getting out of her mother's arms, just getting out of her teenager years, she was far more gullibe, and naïve than Brian, just because of her age. So no, Brian is NOT a victim.😂

@@arianeguedes467 Not reading all that. The fault is entirely with the scheming, lying Ms Wood. Hoping she ends up where she belongs - in jail.

@@myword1000 of course you're not reading. uneducated people are the only ones who believe in every distorted reality Miss Colonel chew and spit on their faces lol

Truths!!!!

Me too.

Because she is one

She is describing what she did to him. She is the abuser.

@caravanrose riiiiight

Yes because she is an actress!

Too bad Dr. Ramani doesn’t address her lies and discrepancies.

She claims everyone knew about his abusive personality. So she can't claim it happened behind closed doors. So many dispute this, including many who were there. Most probably don't want to get involved so are staying silent. Like Manson who has been silenced and can't defend himself

​@@LilacrosepetalleafHe can speak on X, nobody's preventing him

@@Lilacrosepetalleafwhat a ridiculous comment. He never shuts up.

Usually what happens, is, the narcs, and psychopaths act like cool dudes in front of the public, and the police, if they’re called. But, once the narcs get in their cars driving away w/their victims, they start intimidating their partner, hollering, and screaming at their victim(s), and driving like they’re going to crash😳

@@36janders wtf are you talking about? What has he said? PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US. What has he said?? Stop lying!

You resonate with her because she knows the buzzwords, phrases, and triggers that will work on your emoathy. Don't be fooled anymore. There's plenty of evidence out there now that has proven she's lied about many things, and after 5+ years she decided to pull out some more for this podcast.

Yeah ok but Manson said this himself. He has said plenty to indict himself on and raise some eyebrows.

@@judithflom6366 I have to look at both sides of this. If she's as sociopathic as she seems, I could easily see her pushing his buttons relentlessly. Saying that obviously isn't cool, but I've heard a lot of stupid things come out of people's mouths when they're angry (myself included). If any abuse (physical or verbal) was happening in their relationship, it was either from her or both if them. And I know she obviously can't be trusted. I hope this thing goes to trial.

​@@adifferentanimal1250have you had any direct experience of narcissistic abuse? You're bent on defending him and outing her, I just wonder why? As I said before, Amber Heard spoke like a narcissist, acted like one, had no emotional connect. This person speaks like someone who has experienced narcissistic abuse. I know the experience. How about you?

Terrifying get out now.

Are you pointing this out because it describes evan?

As if she wasn’t the one calling the shots all along. Why would Manson lie when he could just disappear? She’s the one getting speaking engagements and designer clothed photo shoots for attention and clout. She’s been caught in many lies where you can’t even take anything she says serious anymore.

​@@kkrautI can't comprehend how anyone could trust someone that takes ZERO accountability for anything they've ever done. I've learned so much about this case over the past few weeks that I'm nearly convinced that she groomed him! And she keeps spicing up her stories!! Disgusting human being. Evan, JUST COME CLEAN before you're exiled to planet Heard.

@@kkrautthe facts are she was 18 yo. Why the hell do you think a man that much older wanted her? He wanted the power imbalance and you're only helping him continue to gaslight people because he's famous. Go away 🐒

​@@kkrautwhy would he lie when he could just disappear?? LMFAO

“Moving The Goal Post(s)” You got it.

Very relatable. Thank you so much❤

I'm a survivor and I don't relate to liars. In fact I'm disgusted by them

Will be waiting for your video on this! Hope it's coming!

🍿🍿🍿

Yes please Through a reaction on Evan Rachel woods body language I well watch your channel

@@lizc9820 It's not the amateur or armchair body language analysis you seem to be thinking about. Professional behavior and statement analysts agree with all your points and will reiterate them often, especially the inability to determine if someone is lying or not. It's OK if it's not your thing but it appears you haven't watched the videos or read the books and textbooks available these days.

Her word choices are often telling and give a lot away. Avoiding specifics or narrative and using psych terms to describe her history. Depersonalizing and deflecting a great deal. There are also many videos of her interviewing for movie promotions etc to compare to including about difficult topics. It’s not definitive but you can see stuff.

Lol

Very good for Manson’s attorneys, they’ll have a field day with this

All account like this are interested in is combing through interviews, in a bad faith attempt to clip things out of context or badly misrepresent information in order to service a hardened agenda they have of supporting people get away with abuse. It’s disgusting behaviour.

@@andrewwells6323just like what you guys do with Manson 😂 the irony

@@gdoora2350 I suppose people like you have to lie like that to try and convince yourselves that you’re not just terrible people but you are and you should feel terrible.

Yeah. I’m 26 now but honestly as a teenager going through so much shit, he was a huge comfort to me, and he meant a lot to me. I was obsessed with him and when you pour over his interviews starting at the very beginning, read his autobiography, etc it’s almost expected that he would do something like this. As mentioned in the video, he literally admitted to fantasizing about murdering her, for one. I hope truly Evan continues to heal and I hope he stops hurting people one day.

After reading many of the comments here I so sympathize with survivors of narcissistic abuse. However, I don't see ERW as a survivor but see someone who has learned a great deal about narcissism and is using it to her advantage.

lolz

You know nothing about the case then. Check out colonel Kurtz

​@@proserpine3332funny because all of his other long term girlfriends had nothing but good things to say about MM. Why did she wait decades later? Why did her activist girlfriend get on twitter and post all these crazy jealous tweets about Marilyn and post fake documents?

Says who? 13 came out in 2003, they started dating in 2007 by which time she'd done at least 5 more movies, including pretty persuasion which was about false sex allegations. Nice try at making your flaky narrative though.

Prove it. That's how this works. You don't get to accuse anyone without proof and evidence and so far Evans activist girlfriend has done nothing but post fake documents and lies on twitter as well as Evan. They were both called out. She was an adult when she was with Marilyn. When Rose McGowan exposed Harvey Weinstein and all the child actors started coming out about their abuse that was the real me too and those stories were covered up by fake metoo money hungry grubbers like Evans Girlfriend whose brainwashed. She had many many years to mention something. It's funny how all of Marilyn's actual girlfriends who he had known long term relationships with said the exact opposite of him one which was Rose McGowan herself which is kind of odd, almost like Evan may have been working for Harvey to get the spotlight off of him? I mean since we are all speculating. It wouldn't surprise me because Harvey hired a foreign private intelligence firm called black cube to stalk Rose. These firms as work in reputation management and spreading disinformation

That doesn't excuse her behaviour, her lying and narcissistim, being abused doesn't give you the right to abuse others. If she hadn't been exposed by her own lies she could have destroyed Marilyn Mawson's life.

He went after her after seeing the film 13. Did he. Wheres the proof of that.

People will bend over backwards to defend a manipulative liar like Evan even when the evidence suggests that she is as toxic as they come. Pretty pathetic..

Sadly I know this very well my secrets made me sick

More likely its Evan's lying that is making her sick. Imagine what it will be like when she has to tell her made-up stories under oath.

Yeah she’s done a lot of research to lean the buzz words. But she’s no victim

@@niccolea2086she’s done a lot of research to help her understand the experiences and heal herself.

​@@niccolea2086how do you know?

she met him when she was 18 and he had started the grooming process

​@@taylorsversion1997no grooming when it was consented from both parties.... How do you believe her after her false allegations have been proven?

@@ryanpape9815 that’s not how grooming works but ok. and just so you know those are claims that are based on nothing credible so much that the judge had to reject it. get your facts straight instead of believing every headline you see. start by knowing what grooming is and then we can talk. also get over evan rachel wood since you guys are so convinced she’s a liar and let’s focus on the 80+ people who have similar stories against him 🙃

@@taylorsversion1997 really... Facts dont lie or care about your.....

Have you ever heard of coercive control, this can happen at eny age

😢😢😢😢😢😢 yep..

Sounds like bs to me, but hey, u do u!

​@@myword1000you sound like bs not her.

@@etcwhatever So ur just another numpty that believes whatever wild, implausible accusations are going, totally without evidence, and are happy to smear the innocent. At least u've outed urself.

@@myword1000 The fuck is wrong with you?

Your being lied to by Evan. You are literally speaking about yourself here in this comment

Did you even know she has also abused the father of her son? I bet you don’t know the extent of her egocentrism.

@picilocarnal Did you know that abuse survivors can go on to be abusers themselves because their sense of what a good relationship is is completely broken?

@@Astralapparitions why do you absolutely want her to be a liar ?? Why would she spend her time until the phoenix act if it were false ?? She has a career, doesn't need this ! You don't even make any sense.

@@picilocarnal you're a relative I suppose? 😂😂

for english language type 1

Who are these “minors”? Do you know them? Have you seen them? Please explain.

She sought him out and flirted with him, a married man. She went to that party looking for him.

@@niccolea2086 and? A married man should be able to control himself.

@@agatazietek9098 But we know they don’t. And it’s women like ERW, who get dressed up and set out to break a married man down. They’re BOTH wrong and I’m not defending MM, but we all see MM, it’s ERW who is hiding in plain sight. She’s mentally ill. He’s twisted but at least he’s not made it his mission to set out to hurt others. Do you know what a sociopath path is?

And the fake FBI letter, i didn’t know victims needed to fake evidence…😂

This is a logical fallacy. Mostly people aren’t blaming the victim. Blaming the victim would be stuff like “You shouldn’t have worn that clothing.” Most people have looked into the case. And so they are not blaming the victim, they are calling out an abuser. They are not calling ERW supporters flying monkeys out of being civil . I have been w Dr R since the beginning including all of her professional trainings. I work in this field.

I have been through this. I have survived. This interview is exactly why the term DARVO exists.

@@jjones9553 Yeah. False Accusers & their apologists use it to shift attention away from their own disgraceful behaviour. We saw this in spades when the truth was coming out about the Heard woman.

@@jjones9553 I’m curious what you mean re DARVO. Who is doing that and in what way?

It might be difficult because they are only open sporadically, for maybe a couple of hours. And usually at odd times not overlapping with standard work week hours.

Ilma and Evan were spitballing that fake FBI letter. "Okay, what can we call it?"/"Well, if such a thing existed, it's part of the FBI, so it's gotta be 'Federal' something-or-other."/"And it investigates violent crimes, so how about ...'The Federal Violent Crimes Department?"/"That's it, Evan. You nailed it." Ilma then taps furiously on her Mac Air.

@@jackcovey1832 Exactly. Like the real world doesn't matter, no one checks things out, and you can just make shit up.

@@jackcovey1832 lol😉

There are actually few of us, defenders of Marilyn Manson, we are just active. You did everything so that unfounded accusations, like those times when black people were lynched, could destroy someone's life and career, you did this with Johnny's career, with Manson's career... There is nothing wrong with her career, You are delusional. Society has changed. Now people are guilty until proven innocent.

If you knew her history you would know she is a full blown covert narc and this story, amongst many others are a complete fabrication. No one is shaming a victim, they are shaming a liar that is co-opting real victims plight for attention. I am willing to bet that the majority of people calling her out are, like myself, not MM fans, but are recovering from relationships with liars like her. We are not flying monkeys. When have you ever heard MM say anything about ERW? She is the one on a long, drawn out, multifaceted smear campaign- repeat with victim attention and fake recounts full of distancing language and shockingly spot on depictions of what people- not her- go through in these situations.

DECLARATION OF ASHLEY LINDSAY MORGAN SMITHLINE I, Ashley Lindsay Morgan Smithline, declares as follows: 1. In November2010, I had a brief, consensual sexual relationship with Brian Warner, also known as Marilyn Manson, during a trip I took to Los Angeles from Thailand, where I was living. 2. Ten years later, I succumbed to pressure from Evan Rachel Wood and her associates to make accusations of rape and assault against Mr. Warner that were not true. 3. In 2020, I was contacted by either Ashley Walters or Illma Gore to participate in a group meeting of women who, they said, had relationships or experiences with Mr. Warner. (I knew Ms. Walters from my trip to Los Angeles in 2010. She was Mr. Warner’s assistant, and she arranged my travel. I also spent time with her during the trip.) Ultimately, I participated in at least one such group call and a meeting that was filmed in October 2020 (which I only later learned was for Phoenix Rising). From this time in 2020 through June 2021, I had many communications with Ms. Wood. 4. During my conversations with Ms. Wood, she described acts allegedly committed by Mr. Warner against Ms. Wood and other supposed victims and asked me whether the same things happened to me. I remember she asked me whether I had been, among other things, whipped, chained, tied up, branded/cut, assaulted while sleeping, beaten, or raped. She said all of these things happened to Ms. Wood and others, and that when Ms. Wood was with Mr. Warner every moment was a moment of survival. When I said, no this did not happen to me and this was not my experience, I recall being told by Ms. Wood that just because I could not remember did not necessarily mean that it did not happen. 5. While at first I knew Mr. Warner did not do these things to me, I eventually I began to question whether he actually did. On numerous occasions, I was told by Ms. Wood, Esme Bianco and others that these things happened to Ms. Wood and Ms. Bianco; asked whether the same things happened to me; and told that I may just be misremembering what happened, repressing my memories of what happened, or that my memories had not yet surfaced-which they said happened to people against whom these acts were perpetrated. I was asked whether I was repressing memories to just get through day-to-day life, and whether it was easier just to not think about what actually happened than accept reality. They also said it was important for people to come forward so that no one else gets hurt. 6. I also recall that in one of the group meetings I attended with Ms. Wood and Ms. Gore, Ms. Gore said they could arrange security for anyone who felt in danger from Mr. Warner. I recall that Ms. Bianco said during this discussion that private investigators had been parked outside of her house and probably were parked outside of mine. I also had separate conversations with Ms. Bianco during this time period in which she told me her relationship with Mr. Warner was similar to that described by Ms. Wood. She insisted that I was repressing memories like she and other supposed victims of Mr. Warner had done. 7. Eventually, I started to believe that what I was repeatedly told happened to Ms. Wood and Ms. Bianco also happened to me. 8. In or around January 2021, I attended a call on which Ms. Wood said that on a certain day she would post to her social media naming Mr. Warner as her abuser, and that we all should do the same on or around the same day. I discussed with Ms. Gore making such a statement on my Instagram page accusing Mr. Warner of abuse. Ms. Gore drafted the statement, and I gave her my password to post it. The narrative ultimately posted to my account on or around February 1, 2021 contained untrue statements about Mr. Warner, including that there was violence and non-consensual sexual activity in our brief relationship, and that I had repressed memories of the same. As another example, there was no branding or cutting experienced during the brief relationship and certainly no “Marilyn Manson” initials carved on my body. 9. On June 29, 2021, a complaint was filed in the lawsuit Ashley Lindsay Morgan Smithline v. Brian Warner et al., Case No. 2:21-cv-5289. The complaint was filed by my attorney at the time, Jay Ellwanger. Ms. Bianco told me Mr. Ellwanger was her lawyer and that I should use him. Mr. Ellwanger did not review the contents of the complaint with me before filing it and did not send me a draft of the complaint to approve before filing it. The complaint contained untrue statements about Mr. Warner, including that there was violence and non-consensual sexual activity in our brief relationship, and that I had repressed memories of the same until meeting with Ms. Wood, Ms. Gore, and others in 2020. Leading up to the filing of the complaint, I felt pressured by Mr. Ellwanger to go on a press tour, which included an interview on The View and an interview and photoshoot with People magazine. I was very uncomfortable doing this press but felt pressured to do it. 10. After the lawsuit was filed on my behalf, I fired Mr. Ellwanger, and the case was dismissed. I never received any money from Mr. Warner and am not seeking any money from him. I have no intention of refiling any lawsuit against Mr. Warner. 11. I never intended to pursue criminal charges against Mr. Warner and have no intention now of ever pursuing criminal charges, as Mr. Warner did not ever assault or abuse me. 12. Looking back, I feel I was manipulated by Ms. Wood, Ms. Gore, Ms. Bianco, and Mr. Ellwanger to spread publicly false accusations of abuse against Mr. Warner. I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on this 19th day of February 2023, at Los Angeles County, CA.

If you used the word flying monkeys you're doomed because you believe this narcissist of a woman.

I believed her story until I looked further into the details… I do think that Manson was somewhat abusive, but not to the extent that she’s saying. Not sure if you watched the Johnny Depp trail… but if you had, you would know that although he wasn’t abusive to the extent that Amber accused him of (such as raping her with a bottle and beating her up) he was still a verbally and emotionally abusive partner. I think that Mason was abusive to Evan, but he never raped her, and he certainly never “groomed” her. She was 18 when they met, also backed up by witnesses who were there. She’s just trying to make him sound worse than he is… she knows that being yelled at, cheated on, or manipulated isn’t bad enough to permanently cancel someone, so she’s throwing in extreme accusations knowing people will believe her because of his stage persona. It was proven by multiple witnesses that Evan is lying about Manson raping her during the Heart Shaped Glasses music video. She fabricated papers from an FBI detective to convince other women to lie about him, the detective mentioned said that she never had anything to do with investigating Mason. There are multiple witnesses who have spoken out against Evan’s statements, including Rose McGowan. If you care to listen to interviews from people who were actually there, you can check out the KZfaq channel Colonel Kurtz. She is a Manson supporter, but all of her evidence and arguments are based on facts, with multiple witnesses to back them up. Colonel Kurtz has stated that she wasn’t a fan of Manson when she started covering him, and she doesn’t listen to metal music. So she has no bias in supporting him, she just sees the facts. It’s so sad that a lot of people just “believes victims” without taking the time to investigate details. These psychopathic women use this to their advantage in these situations. I’m all about supporting victims, but only when the facts back up their statements.

I think you've met my husband. You're describing him perfectly!

@@annjohnson8437 I'm sorry. Unfortunately this was a few of my exes as well.

That’s exactly what Amber Heard did to JD.

Wow. So true

Grey rock isn’t meant to be a permanent solution to stay w/ the narc nor is it meant to make them change or “see the light”. Abusers/narcs will do what they do… Grey rock is meant as a temporary technique to keep the damage minimal as you make your escape and to help victims practice not getting baited into the drama cycles & cultivating emotional distance & strength.

Why did this comment get a heart by the Dr Ramani team?

Because ERW is a BIGTIME FRAUD

@@amalie.eugeniemaybe she’s learned more. Evan is a criminal liar. She forged fbi documents, coerced fake victims to testify and the whole case is a hoax.

I don't know anything about her. Is she controversial or problematic?

@@Analysis_Paralysisto say the least

Wow so you went through a similar situation, in a very high profile way and went through legal proceedings as well. Please, please enlighten us all on how people should behave when speaking out on these matters.

@@nickgagliano7392 thank you for summarizing it perfectly!

Projection

Right, obviously the 18yo who was dating a 37yo was the problem, not the 37yo who dated an 18yo, named himself after a mass murdering cult leader, and has been rumored to enjoy raping and torturing women since the 90s

Exactly 😂

when I saw the title and a pic of ERW I naturally thought it was looking at her outsize and obvious narcissistic character 😅 Wrong!

Yep she's one of the biggest.Dr Ramani totally gaslighted.

You deserve to be able to focus on you or you won't truly be there for her. You need to set some boundaries honey.

Thanks for sharing. All the best for you❤❤❤

And I spent my entire life being physically and sexually abused. But she's a liar.

I moved 4 states away with the kids. That rocked his world. It gave him so much to complain about.

​@@Scarlettbankergirllmao good for you

One of those stars of yours is a black hole. Please, do a little research on this case other than just watching Evan Rachel Wood put on a performance. People deserve to see the other side of the curtain. If you choose not to, that's fine, but you can't go on blind faith. She's been caught in too many lies, and once this case goes to trial I do believe empaths like yourself are going to be sick when you realize what these women are up to. Just look at the case that recently got settled. Jane Doe (aka Chloe Black) wanted to keep Manson from even being able to testify! And now that she's settled, she doesn't want to have to testify in the Manson/Wood trial. These women wanted a trial via kangaroo Court, and now that's its getting real they want out. That's not the kind of 'activist' whose fighting for abuse victims. Also, that Phoenix Act? She did that for herself. Not for you. Not for anyone. For fame. Evan Rachel Wood is a textbook narcissist.

Oh dear. Isn't that ironic?

I hope the truth comes out and that ERW & her fellow grifters go to jail.

her and amber fart should be in jail

Haha, I caught that!

She is a liar. Next time you're bored do some searches regarding the case. Lots of evidence out there now.. just don't let her manipulate your feelings with powerful stories.

Do not for the life of you believe this nasty lady. Believe it or not, this isn't the only FAMOUS male celebrity she has foul reservations about. Every partner she has seems to be the problem. Not a nice person. (Its easy to blame thorn when the cotton gets tangled up in it) Mickey Rourke is nuts and even he says this lady is completely GONZO) forgive my name ladies. If it causes any offence. Apologies.

Why are so many ppl calling her a liar, manipulator, etc, without presenting actual proof, written in black and white? Those accusers sound so much like Johnny Depp’s cronies, fans, and representatives.

@@jeanie5074There is proof. Have you done your research? Where’s her proof? At her behest, the police have: more or less swatted him, confiscated all his electronic devices, listened to her allegations, reviewed her “evidence”. I think it’s been almost 2 years. And no charges. Where is her evidence, besides people talking? She says he’s been harassing and threatening her. He says he hasn’t talked to her in 10 years. Where are the text messages, voicemails, recordings, emails or letters, videos of any harassment or stalking? She lost custody of her son in part because she had no evidence that she unilaterally took her son out of state due to threat of harm by Manson, so she forged a letter stating that Manson was under in estimation by the FBI, signed it using the name of a real FBI agent. Why did she do that if she had evidence? It’s a narcissistic smear campaign.

​@@adifferentanimal1250Your KZfaq handle is quite appropriate for a flying monkey

So happy for you that you are free! It is an amazing feeling! Wish you all the best in your recovery.

Congratulations, and good luck for what is coming next for you.

It's not, she mentioned abuse in her first statement on why she left.

Sorry Ramani, this narcissist has you fooled! She is a liar and manipulator doing what she does best. You should really research better before having these types on. She is a fraud!

Evan is a lie😂

What is wrong with you

Sorry Ramani, this narcissist has you fooled! She is a liar and manipulator doing what she does best. You should really research better before having these types on. She is a fraud!

Oh shut up 😒🙄

Neither do they falsify fbi letters. For that alone rachel should have been prosecuted. Anyone who has done any actual research on this case knows rachel is a liar. Just ask her poor ex husband. The woman needs psychological help. She's just a slightly better actress than her friend amber. But if this case ever went to court the whole world would see her for the liar she is. Its a shame that in 2024 people still believe her stories

Go to h e l l

you need come up with a better script😅

Agreed. #Unsubscribe

Agreed

I'm shocked! Is she MSM shill now? Or duped? Zero due diligence here. Even after this latest court decision. I wish they would've pressed charges on impersonating FBI agents.

dont like it, dont watch, pretty simple😏

I don’t. That’s why the evidence points against her now especially with two of her witnesses recanting and saying they felt pressured by her. Look it up there’s also video evince of why he’s innocent

You're choosing to believe her despite the evidence of her being the liar.

@norseczar27 have you considered that the person who has recanted her claim might have done it due to a flood of hate and threats from Manson's fans? There are more than a dozen women claiming abuse at the hands of Manson. Are you saying they are all lying? He literally talked openly about his abusive behaviour. I don't immediately believe these sort of claims either. For example in a case of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard I have not made up my mind until the US trial has taken place. I felt very strongly that Amber was the one that was abusive in their relationship after watching their testimonies and listening/ watching of the recordings and other evidence. In this case however I believe Evan. She's clearly experienced a lot of trauma, her recollection of events and the way she talks about it comes across as completely honest. Add to that the many other victims that came forward and I don't know how anyone could disregard her story or claim it's a fabrication. I think what we are seeing with Evan is the very unfortunate consequence of what happened with Amber Heard. So many people are drawing on what happened in her case to arrive at the wrong conclusion in case of Evan. Please don't be so easily manipulated.

@@Kikioz271 well Manson is touring again and those women who recanted felt pressured to be witnesses for her.

Now that’s someone who actually deserves a slot on this podcast.

It won't age well, and the fact that this was released AFTER Evan Rachel Wood was publicly exposed for her lies and narcissism, how does she explain that?

Yes !

Did she include speaking out about kidnapping her son and losing custody? Probably not.

I can't tell if this comment is talking about Rachel being the narcissist

It is, unfortunately.

@RebeccaO619 pretty sure Dr. Ramani or whomever read the comment on her behalf didn't realize it was a negative post.

@@maras1mama yeah it doesn’t make any sense for Dr. Ramini to invite Evan on for an hour and half to platform her story and then turn around and heart/like some shady comment…

​@@RebeccaO619 Is it a shady comment because you disagree with it? The situation is extremely nuanced. Most people don't lie about their situation. This one seems to be, but based on evidence, not just body language.

She's not normal Lol. Everything is everyone else's fault lol. She's full of buzzwords and unsubstantiated allegations. Hope Mansons lawyers are lapping this up lol

Lol “Brian has never seemed ok or normal to me”… as if that’s enough to accuse/ convict a person… guess you’ve never heard of court of law rules 😂 btw Brian has LOADS of evidence of Evan’s lies including the fake FBI letter she drafted.

So sorry about what happened to you. Healing can feel like it takes forever, sometimes, it even feels unreachable. But, people like Evan's story & support groups are so amazing & important. I hope you are doing well & have the love & support you deserve 💜

You sre blindly, uncritically supporting a lying False Accuser.

Projecting your story onto her because she's said a few things that trigger you basically. I am sorry that you got hurt though and glad you're doing better.

The Dr has fallen into being the perfect narc supply. Guess she's only human.

Evan Rachel is the victim here. That’s why Dr. Ramani knows, and is interviewing her. All of those that deprecate her, are the narcissists, and are projecting what they do themselves on other people.

@@JJvisityea I get that. I’ve been in a few relationships with narcissists and looking back I’m like ‘what was I thinking?’ So yea happens to the best of us

I mean isn't Red Table Talk Jada Pinkett Smith's company? So interesting partner choice.

She experienced no abuse

So true. She really has done so much for survivors.

It's truly upsetting how Evan has turned the very serious issue of sexual violence into a Hollywood entertainment festival. What these women have done to #MeToo is criminal.

@@legolesscheese-wheel69it is… making fun of real survivors… she’s been exposed… all of them have and will

Evan is a Narcissist and a liar and an abuser.

As am I.

@@Leslee_Lane No takers. Imagine that.

I don't know anything about this so I'll accept your offer. Why would she make it up? Have you personal experience of narcissists? I'm listening to her and at the moment, I believe her as I can feel her experience. Narcissists speak differently to her. Your turn.

@@ShineMedia1 I replied to your other comment and gave some thoughts on all this. I forgot to add that I also believe Wood is likely more of a sociopath than she is a narcissist (I think I've been misusing the term narcissist) As for why she would make it up, I can't answer that but in the experience I mentioned in my other comment, all she wanted was attention, and she went through a lot just to get it..from me. I'm not a celebrity. I'm not rich. I was just a little naive, and thats all she needed to play games. She also liked coming up with ways to get revenge on me if I stopped talking to her. It was a crazy situation.. I also think some people who grew up on social media realize that they can technically say anything, and at least one other person will like and validate it for them. Growing up with people constantly validating any notion you have surely helps wire your brain a certain way. The girl I knew was really into acting and I see an obvious connection between the desire for fame, attention and acting with sociopaths. They are also either the heros or victims in their stories, but NEVER at fault. Never the villain. Some girls also know their beauty can be used to their advantage in very manipulative ways. Another good question would be- what does she have to lose? I do believe that Wood could've experienced some of what she's talking about (weaving in slivers of truth) but those experiences may not have even come from Marilyn Manson. She's thrown the book at him in terms of evil things men can do, and as she gained traction as an ACTivist, she just threw on more. Repressed memories don't just pop up magically like they do in movies.. furthermore, all the cases of the other accusers have crumbled before going to court, and they're getting caught in lies. I also believe the one accuser who later flipped and testified that Wood and her co-conspirator Ilma-Gore manipulated her into saying Manson abused her, handing her a checklist of ways she could've been abused and told "Just because you don't remember it,, doesn't mean it didn't happen". It's a big mess. Im sorry for the long messages too. If you're ever bored and interested in seeing more, my other comment has a link in it. There are also several body language and linguistic experts who comment on Wood's 'documentary' and some of her interviews (Martin Decoder is one of them). Interesting stuff to say the least.

@@ShineMedia1 I've witnessed and experienced BPD abuse. So, why do they do it? They do it for sympathy, they do it because they have not healed from a traumatic childhood, they do it for revenge, they do it because they genuinely believe they are victims. They will abuse and torment you, retell the story in their mind, and make themself the innocent victim then go on a smear campaign of destruction. They use half truths exaggeration and completely eliminate the role they may have played. It happens, a perfect example is Amber Heard.

I'm cracking up. Twilight Zone.

Agree, Dr Ramani has not done her research. Evan is a narcissist and an abuser.

ohhh my goodness! Seriously laughed out loud at this! So true and utterly so sad

True, funny and sad.

Sadly true.