Ex girlfriend, my babies mom was cheating, got caught and blamed me. She's now married. Has called me 2x this year crying blaming her husband for why she's cheating on him (she got caught 6 months ago. And recently got caught again) oh and she got pregnant by the guy she was cheating with.

But what if you are not responsible and the other person is immature and demanding?

I’ve been binging your KZfaq videos. They’ve explained my life in ways I haven’t even heard in therapy. I have a fabulous therapist, but he doesn’t specialize in narcissism, and honestly there’s been (and continues to be) so much work to do that we haven’t been able to get to everything yet. I’m out of my abusive marriage, and that’s massive. But it’s thanks to you that I learned about the different kinds of narcissism and discovered that my dad was a self-righteous narcissist. I understand so much more now, and have more patience with myself. Thank you so, so much for all you do!

Genius perspective, thank you. And I think that’s why victims do a lot of self blaming because after I left my abusive relationship back in my 20s I struggled and beat myself up with well why/how come I allowed this to happen to me and red flags but it’s so much more complicated when you’re deep into the relationship then an outside person could ever understand unless they’ve experienced it. I truly think if I didn’t have my mom tell me once ‘Jen you always have a place to come home to’ I might not have left him. She purposely implanted that in my mind.

They can learn to use the right words at the right time and still not be genuine

I was told by him I needed therapy...I went for a year. I learned where the real issues were...he went to therapy- I've seen no change. If anything, things are getting worse.

I told my ex-husband outright that I would not be communicating with him any longer and why. I dont care what is recommended here, my message is admissible in court and so is his unhinged response along with his admittance to the third party abuse he encouraged on a parenting app.

Study Antisocial personality disorder

Hahahaha I thought it was a disease demetria Graves, I said what's that hahahaha

I think it's great insight what you said . Something similar , related, yet might be a different topic, is the was a series of INTENSE MANIPULATIONS towards me involving lots of interpersonal relations over the last decade and a half for me that people put their " emotionally unchecked baggage " on to me ( term is not copyrighted, yet rock it out if you like ) , and I dealt with..and then some asking for an apology from ME because they either didn't get what that wanted/ expected or I didn't choose to give them another round / chance , due to lack of emotional trust towards ON MY END . So now , I ( if had to deal with and get over ) care about those like I would the other 8 billion people on this earth. Yet have had those not only do the action, yet shit talk me after because I didn't apologize for SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO! ( I KNOW this scenario is not so common, though when I advise ppl with language, that it is IMPORTANT to not take credit (( positive or negative))actions THAT YOU DIDN'T do. ((usually those who TAKE more than their fair share of guilt / accountability)) I really appreciate your decisiveness and conviction and emotionally educated sharing.

Wait, THIS is my friend boss. 😂😂😂😂

just because they learn how to give an apology doesn't mean they actually mean it... they just learnt a new manipulation tool.

My ex was a psychologist and a narcissist. He pressured me into getting therapy because "If you get help, we won't have any problems." So, I did. My therapist helped me to leave him and stay gone!! FREEDOM!

100% the other manipulation that narcissist used out here in the dating world is they'll tell you they've been in therapy because they know that they have something wrong with them so they'll say that so that you think they're an empath

Learn how to apologise without the word "feeling" got it.

This. Facts.

I think my ex wanted a fan. When I tried to talk to him about slowing down the relationship he would get upset no matter how kindly I brought it up or how up front. And whenever I held him accountable for messing up or acting childish .. he couldn’t take it. Instead he wanted me to just deal with his inability to make good decisions, surround himself with bad friendships, make ridiculous economic decisions and then complain about everything to me…and when offered solutions he seemed to get annoyed by me or just dismiss me. Then why complain? And he wanted me to mirror his feelings back to him whenever he complimented me or told me he loved me or missed me.

Ok, my mom is the narcissist. I have used that phrase on her ("I'm sorry you feel that way"). Does that makes me a narcissist?

This is manipulation

I can't still wrap my head around the fact that Jada Pinkett was a producer of this 😂 .

My mother is the narcissist, and she uses the silent treatment on EVERYONE, including me.

You have a choice. Sure. What are the consequences?

always brilliant

You couldn't make a lot of money on sales alone if it's so hard to get online and order the product. The money had to come from getting others to join.

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Omg, the arguing like an attorney was so what I went through. 12 years of exhaustion and crazy making and I gained 95 lbs during those 12 years.

Approach Avoidance is the devil!

My 12 year narc had that push pull thing going on like crazy. She confused the shit out of me and made me so crazy for so many years that I told her she was making my heart and my brain fight amongst themselves. It felt like someone was playing tug of war with me. That’s finally why I ended it.

Years later Narcissists will attempt anything and everything to get u back into Toxic Dangerous Family Dynamic! Strong boundaries Protect yourselves ❤

It’s these BLUE states that have laws that are encouraging the breakdown of society. The court systems are rigged to follow laws to support the dangerous one in the scenario. This even is obvious within divorce laws where the abusive parent has rights where the healthy parent gets screwed. Laws need to be changed or better yet Jesus needs to come back and save us from the infiltrated evil.

I don’t think therapy can help those with true NPD

It took me 5 years to finalize my divorce. My ex took all my journals with him because he was so threatened by my inner thoughts. Even during the marriage he aired my laundry. He still manages to intrude in my life.

The father does sound narcissistic, egotistical and self centred. For sure her mother should have left way sooner and taken the kids. To paint this father as attentive and tuned in seems just bizarre.

Back listening to this, it's so phenomenal. My mother didn't rip me off or leave but the relationship is just the same, self centred and kept me stuck with the 'love manipulation'. Mother's who do this mess up their kids all in the name of their own needs and blame their children for becoming messed up. All my instincts screamed leave when I was a teen and I pushed it aside believing her, because as jewel says the need to aside tach and having a volatile aggressive father our mother's feel like the safe one. Truth is they weren't and they kept us in that system because that's what they wanted! SO selfish ✌

Its evil

Thankyou for sharing your experiences

In therapy when dealing with a narcissistic parent , I was taught to say that I’m sorry you feel that way, so as not to take on the responsibility of the narcissist. Does that give me Narcissistic characteristics?

A narcissist only cares about their image, power, and control.

After living this way for many years with a person who was abusive and was married very young- her description is too compelling and hits too close home to be made up.

My soon to be ex beat me up, lied to me and about me. He’s a deceptively charming street angel and house devil. Shortly after I discovered DVDs he’d hidden containing recordings he’d made of our phone conversations (most was of me crying and pleading for him to stop his abuse), I put up security cameras inside and outside our home. The cameras caught his bullying, breaking doors, pouring his porn lube all over my clothes, threatening to break my headlights with a hammer, etc. I took the videos to the authorities. The Sargent told me “I’ve been doing this for 25 years. I’ve never seen this much evidence against a chronic domestic abuser. Divorce him before he kills you. Get a lawyer. You don’t even need a good one.”

A bunch of goofy psychobable.

What is she even saying? The Police checked him out and found nothing.

She was 18 and 19. She was in therapy?

Unfortunately I've said that in the past.

Narcissists don’t “ need” help. They’re “better” than everyone around them. No coincidence that they’re all Avoidant on some level. They simply devalue and/ or discard when the people that love them can no longer deal with the pain.

My ex-husband. He's a porn addict and loves to act holier than thou. His mum and sister are the same. They go to church but nasty greedy people.

Yes! I just went thru this. Then when I told him that he knew exactly what he was doing and to stop playing with people, he told me he was sorry that was my response. 😂😂 That's one of the most narcissistic comebacks. And i am the narcissist, because i called him out, then blocked him to keep from doing any further emotional/mental damage to me.

Reminds me of any criticism against Shanahan as RFK JR’s VP pick. Many things don’t add up and many contradictory or illogical statements have been made, but if you question any of it or insist on clarification in the campaign amongst supporters then the answer is to “Trust RFK,” “Refocus attention on the ‘real’ enemy,” “Stop the toxicity,” etc. I see lots of praise insisting she is highly intelligent and that she gives such detailed and knowledgeable answers, but that’s far from the truth. Lots of shaming going on to make anyone speaking up stay quiet.

**** Where is the link to the DARVO questionnaire?

I got baited and thankfully I didn’t take the bait. My face has been having reoccurring acne for 3 years now and I have been treating it and the pigmentation it leaves. I finally found products that help and I am cleared and in the best condition ever for the past 3 years. Spoke to her on the phone and the 1st thing she said is that my face is looking really rough, why? I just answered her that it is old age and focused on my sister that I called to speak to. The comment/question was so rude and false but I am so glad that I didn’t argue with her saying no, my face is clearer what are you talking about or sulk at the gaslighting that she can’t see how much better I look etc. The comment was rude and hurtful and I am glad that I am processing it on my own