Very much so

Do the Assassination of Lord British from Ultima Online please!

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This was sick, keep em coming.

the MMO pandemic would be a great episode

"If it has hit points, we can kill it." (Read in Austrian accent.)

It's why there are "aspects" of D&D deities (Bahamut and Tiamat for now) that allow players to fight them without risking them destroying the God themselves.

If it can bleed, it can die

I mean... If I had been tasked to dev the thing and to make it seem like fightable at second glance but undefeatable in practice I'd add code in damage handling that regens its HP back to full if the damage would cause it to drop below 25% or so. (Although maybe not if HP is edited directly by the code of each ability. That would be a software engineering nightmare.)

you can give something stats and make it so it can't be killed. if it drops to X% of health anything and everything that attacks or has attacked it dies instantly and cannot be resurrected or revived.

Agreed

No amount of premium currency can buy the prestige of being in the army that killed an immortal dragon.

@@thrownstair Chinese whales: "Wait, what?... "

For glory and a guaranteed spot in Valhalla. No loot can buy it. They'll be singing songs of their battle for all time.

@@ExileHeretic For real though. As dorky as this story is to 99.9% of the earth's population it's truly gotta be a memorable experience that each and every one of them will treasure for the rest of their lives. Early MMOs were something special

@@PlebNC Why Chinese? Pretty sure the whales from all other demographics would have the same reaction.

It was indeed a crack habit.

"How can you kill that which has no life?"

most popular MMOs have great events, like WOW's plague or runescape's falador massacre.

and most of the greatest surprise events occur because of bugs or players breaking the game (plague was hunter pets getting infected and preserved, and falador massacre was a bug where players in Construction house arenas [enables PVP] who were then kicked from house would keep PVP enabled in non-PVP zones)

@@nolanerckert4515 No doubt! Sony clearly didn't fully understand MMO's and that lack of experience led to them underestimating the players' ability to summon an insane degree of determination and absolute willpower when faced with such an obstacle. They will congregate, coordinate, and cooperate before proceeding to systematically break down and dismantle the challenge or learn with 100% certainty it is literally unbeatable. I've never been into MMO's but I've had friends who played them, such as one guy now who has played EQ2 for like 14 years I think? He even went a step further by leveling his battle mage into a goddamn rampaging beast who could solo raids, something he managed to do by mastering the economy and grinding other characters who could make whatever items the mage would need to become what is essentially a demigod. I'm not exactly sure how impressive this actually is but it sure is fascinating to listen to him talk about the game.

@@nolanerckert4515 What made this special is that such events had never been done before in video game history. The first guild to awaken him didn't know what was going to happen. They didn't know that they were about to witness the first example of massive online game world being permanently altered by their actions, and it would take a few more servers to awaken him to realize that doing so was actually detrimental to everyone in the long run.

Frost: "...but what Dulux didn't factor into their predictions was a phenomenon - unheard-of by all but the most hallowed tiers of chemistry's elite - known simply as 'Diffusion'. They watched, helpless and horrified, as the solvent they had so carefully blended in with their precisely calibrated secret sauce of proprietary polymers and pigments, evaporated into the air, leaving nothing but a hardened shell, irrevocably bonded to its previously unblemished substrate, thus altering its appearance forever. My throat gets dry just thinking about it... or maybe I just need a drink. Until next time..."

The best part was, this wasn't a planned strategy beforehand. They adapted and took advantage of what was happening in real time. Mightilty impressed!

All my screenshots from the two times we had to do it were covered in "so and so is resurrected by divine intervention. That's all you could read lol. And for the poster above it was absolutely a planned strategy as it was used on all of the raids. The untold but truly impressive thing is that our 3 guilds were forced into doing the event as some people were purposely attempting to wake him so the sleeper gear wouldn't drop anymore but when we found out like what 150ish people called out of work to make it happen....all to have a gm reset the dragon. I haven't finished the video yet so maybe it was already mentioned but eq2 was already rolling out ads and the artwork was published for the box sets, with the sleeper wakening and changing the world. They had to redo all of it including the "plot" of eq2 because we had our protest and were told the second time they wouldn't interfere and we won. Good effin times. Long live AD

@@bikerboysrus1 My toon was known as Yuffie, a human Monk. I was watching the game chats from the Plane of Knowledge when it happened. I was cheering you on! Yeah, it was weird how Skyshrine had been revamped to reflect his awakening, but he was still sleeping on our server. I remember getting a couple of Prismatic fistwraps for Yuffie. Even farmed the warders a couple times along with the rest of the server rotation. Good times!

Come on kill that dragon baby do the conga I know you can't control this raid any longa

I know this line Yugioh. A legitimate meta strategy is an endless conga line of self replacing assholes.

As someone watching the general chat and other channels from the safety of the Plane of Knowledge when it happened, everything described here is true. There's a few minor details that are inaccurate, but that's just splitting hairs. It is told exactly how it played out. 3 days later after all the backlash, Verant Interactive released a statement that they would be resetting the encounter and allowing them to play it out (although they claim they removed the non-agro invisible NPC that was contributing to the damage being done to Kerafyrm.)

@@DRCEQ i would have asked for the name of that npc if namechanging was possible, IF i had been one of the 300 amd changed my name to it out of spite

EverQuest is probably the most well documented and preserved game ever. The wayback machine has saved a lot of the forums and websites, every patch note has been preserved all the way back to the game's closed beta. The first prototype, multiple alpha and beta builds. Even with all that being the case and the decades-long effort to keep a hold of that stuff, there are still lots of holes and lost information.

These are the legends of our time

I remember doing an EQ raid a couple years after this where we had 1 group in the raid who had to take care of a crucial mechanic just in a Skype room, and IIRC we couldn't even have the entire group in it due to channel size limitations. Even when I retired from raiding voice chat was more just a luxury hangout thing that was starting to get used, we never used it for raid calls.

hardcore@@TheFloon

@@TheFloon Yeah, when I was a raid leader, I spoke in ALL CAPS for raid orders. It was a lot of fun pre-setting up the shouts before the raid for different outcomes. We would bribe a lvl 60 cleric and necromancer to be ready for corpse runs and go kill that big red dragon.

we all used ventrillo back then.

Try one of Manykudos’s videos, he covers similars event quite often.

Whoa, people still run unofficial servers for old MMOs? That's very cool

i want to find an unofficial server for tibia

@@MissPoplarLeaf oh it's the best. Project 1999 man. Thousands of people playing.

The best part is that it makes sense. It wasn't meant to die. Why would they bother coding that in

@@meapickle No idea what kind of ingame items Everquest had, but if Sony had time to add an exp drop on death they could've at least added a "I killed the unkillable dragon and all I got was this t-shirt" kind of item drop.

​@@acoupleofschoesthe boss didnt drop xp, the admins themselves gifted the players the bountiful xp because the dragon didnt even have xp coded in lmao

Perhaps the loot was all the friends we made along the way.

Learning about Sony's reaction to it all is pretty damn hilarious, too! It didn't come off as them being malicious in any way despite the cheating accusations, because they seemed to just not fully understand how an MMO's player base can become unified and prove capable of displaying an impossible degree of single-minded determination. They will come for the biggest, "insurmountable" challenge, they will find it, and they will kill it. They absolutely will not stop!!!

Unless your system can handle infeasibly large numbers with only small amounts of damage being possible. I'm talking in the quadrillions or higher.

@@ashurean It's still finite. Challenge will be accepted.

Kind of like the guy who grinded to level 99 in the first dungeon of _Final Fantasy VII._ Took him 500 or so hours of mind-numbing repetitive activity and all for no other reason than being the guy who did it.

Some other Legendary MMO events to talk about are WoW's Corrupted Blood Incident and FFXI's campaigns to kill Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden.

@@ultimatecalibur EVE Online alone has probably had about 1000 legendary events that'd be a good fit here. I hope for April Fools 2024 we get Sleeps-On-Bridges though.

@@rushi5638 I know there was a big battle that caused something in the $100,000s of losses but for a Legend story, there was story from years ago where a player named Bobby (I think) had a years long scam planned for a corporation called Titans4U where he stole like $50,000 worth of stuff. Now THAT is legendary

The fally massacre was truly a legendary event. I joined Runescape too late to enjoy the golden age of mmos :(

Kerafyrm's Awakening was the first instance of a massive multiplayer game world being permanently altered by the player's own actions. The concept hadn't been done before. You look at games like Fortnite and they change things up on a regular basis like when they did that Rocket launch event way back when. This is small-scale in execution compared to other events like WoW's plague, but none of the players knew what was going to happen. Much like how a player in Ultima Online was eventually sued for finding a way to kill Lord British, the guilds on Rallos Zek were determined to prove it could be done.

If I had to name 2 others... the council of six was unbeatable for months until they relented and nerfed it, and there was a monster on ff11 that took more then half a day and multiple free companies to kill. It was nerfed after that like wise.

come to project 1999, current EQ is nothing like this story

this is why people liked immersive MMOs in the past - second life, work even, but this is something you remember for the rest of the life.

I wouldn't expect him to. Yahtzee did an "occasional guide to 'special' moments in gaming history" on it 3 years ago.

the corrupted blood was just an exploit for a mechanic that was never intended to be in the open world. It wasn't something you could beat. And no one DID beat it. you just died.

@@MaNameizJeff Doesn't matter the corrupted blood incident was legendary enough that governments actually studied it to see how it can effect real life pandemic models.

Everquest is much better as a retelling than experiencing live. There is a reason WoW became a mmo juggernaut: it basically took every good thing from EQ and removed the mountains of unfun shit that surrounded those pearls of fun.

Yeah it was pretty lame. 3 days later they admitted they were going to give the guilds another try and just let it happen. A few weeks later, Game-wide messages across all servers played out a story telling of the armies traveling across the frozen snow-covered Eastern Wastes of Velious and entering into the Sleeper's Tomb, then killing he warders and eventually killing him.

Every other Monday for now!

Ascending Dawn is still active on Rallos Zek and to a lesser extent in EverQuest 2. I can't speak for the other two guilds.

The video did say there were other dragon bosses, so it probably just used one of theirs. I would assume the devs made Kerafyrm by basing him off the assets of another dragon boss or some sort of dragon preset.