Yeah apparently the good folks at Pro Football Reference went back and watched a bunch of film from the pre-sack-as-an-official-stat days and tallied them up. It says Martin got 20 sacks in '77. But Deacon Jones had two separate 22-sack seasons and another 21.5 sack season, of course all in 14 games. Strahan and Watt's records should be adorned with an asterisk

I know one year the Jets had multiple 20 sack guys on their line. The New York Sack exchange is what they were called

Bubba Baker?

And dont forget about deacon Jones.

I mean if ur doing that Al Bakes,McCoy Bacon,etc all had over 20 b4 1982

Most of that list was in the same draft

Very underrated

You said it aj!!!! Doleman was an animal underrated

@@24problems Abraham was so good for a long time. Shame he doesn't get the recognition he deserves

Seriously. I am a Viking fan who never got to see him play but I saw someone uploaded the big upset ever the 49'ers and he was just one a different speed from all the other players.

That's because he played way longer than he should have (19 seasons, with his final season being with Washington in 2003, when he was 40 years old - between him and Darrell Green, the 'Skins defence in the early 2000s qualified for AARP benefits)

@@TimmyTickle That...literally has nothing to do with the original post.

@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 No, the reply did relate because it explains that Bruce Smith’s sack totals were spread out because of the number of seasons he played

@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 It literally does, same thing with jerry rice or Brady. No one will realistically top their numbers because they played so long

He played in the 3-4 most of his career. He said himself he'd probably get more sacks if he worked under a 4-3 defense. That sounds scary.

Not to sound that White's accomplishments in 1987 weren't great, but nearly half the season was played by a majority of scab players on every team during that season's strike.

He got 21 sacks in 12 games. If you prorate that to a full season, I think that’s a good 30 sacks in a season.

Only 3 games where played by scrubs...the 4th game was canceled... For the most part out was scrub vs scrub... The 12 games Reggie White played was NFL vs NFL... Needs to be fact checked...but from What I recall that is how it played out...

Seth joyner

@@05gtdriver Strike was only for 4 weeks, one game cancelled and the other 3 of those games were played by scab players. It was the 1982 strike that took away half of the season.

Right on Bro Kick that Lazy Dog!

Deacon Jones had 174 sacks career

@@eddie992020 He's in the Hall of Fame Tho. But still there's a huge place of NFL HISTORY Buried. 60's-70's we're Rich In Defensive Greatness. Thank God Deacon Jones Had Someone to go back and record his Sack Totals. This at the least needs to be done for Others who at least "Dominated" in there Era. It's slowly happening and it's good for the game and the players who are still alive and the families. 💪

@steve reber they do. Reason they are in the Hall of Fame. They have gold jackets but defense in every Era changes with rules. Can't say anyone would be better in any era but the what they played in.

@@eddie992020 i think we are on the same page. My view is you judge a player for how he dominated in the particular era he played in. Example "if" Hypothetically from 1950-59 10 sacks was the highest total of any yr of the 10 yr stretch and Joe blow led the League 8 of 10 YRS averaging 8 sacks a year , he's Hof WORTHY Cuzz he Dominated his position for a certain number of years. So I don't make stats the deciding factor. As is my argument for Wide Receivers of the 60's -70's who should be in the Hof. But stats do have there place. And sacks were a great indicator of a players dominance on the line. The rest is a little harder to tell with Cb and safeties. Anyways it's all good. There's a definite need to address the issue of recognizing the old Skool Players who have been over looked. Despite rule changes or something. That is just evident. I address that issue elsewhere. Be Blessed thnx for the reply. To add to the discussion is the fact that Where are the Field Goal Kickers? Gary Anderson Punters Etc, Line Men. Joe Jacoby. Special Teams Steve Tasker. To me under the definition of a player that dominated his era for say 5-6 yrs at least at any position on the field should be recognized in a Hall of Fame. Let players run it I guarantee it would "Balance itself out Fairly" I think it's a Worthy Cause..My Opinion

It's probably because sadly his career was cut short. RIP Derrick Thomas 🙏

well your probably like 16 lol

@@93HonestAbe He probably doesnt know who anyone else is lol

@@griffinconaway732 I’ll tell ya something I know there are better rushers such as lt,Bruce smith and of course the minister of defense himself Reggie white, but the person I’ve considered the best I’ve ever watched keep in mind I’m also 16 the best I’ve got to watch in my era in my opinion was Julius peppers that man was out of this world

@@Zaystaycrazy420 I will say this the 2000s and early 2010s had some great pass rushers like Jared Allen, Demarcus Ware, Peppers, Dwight freeney, Robert Mathis, etc. I would still take the pass rushers of the 2010s over those guys though so Von Miller, Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack, and the Watt brothers, i think they were more well rounded defensively overall which is why those guys have multiple DPOYs.

Their genes are crazy.

Kick that Lazy Dog Bro. Asleep at the NFL , Players should be in the damn hall of fame! Al bubba Baker Coy Bacon WTH

@@stevereber Harvey Martin

@@jonathanaustinstern1 Yeah Forgot him, but heck I could go on & on. 👍

The 1987 season was strange in that because of the strike, many dominant performances were made by, at the time, future hall of famers. Could White's and Rice's performances be a result of the lack of conditioning by opposing players? Yeah, 24 days doesn't seem like much, but in reality, it was more like 5 to 6 weeks of most players not in peak form. Need to research White's and Rice's week 5 through week 11 numbers versus their week 12 to 16 to see how much they dropped off or continued to perform at a high level as their opposition improved condition-wise. 🤔

Jerry did better than all but 1 has in a 16 game season yes.. Randy Moss had 23 in 2007. White was a beast though!

Definitely agree. DL/OL is heavenily underrated sadly.

@@saucegonnafly yeah

The stats would agree. Second most impactful position on a game. Followed by o line

Without a doubt, qb pressures consistently during a game can be the difference between a TD or 3 and out, qb hits can lead to bad passes with potential ints, and sacks lead to missed FG opportunities or even fumbles for a complete turn of the game

A lethal DL can make up for a so-so DB core.

Kick em

Pro Football Reference coming in clutch as usual. The unofficial record is now 23 by Bubba Baker. Still not as impressive as Reggie White's 21 sacks in 12 games and TJ Watt's 22.5 in 13 1/2 games though

Straight drop

The Bosas aren’t too far behind

@@MasonPatrick2.0 they kinda are it’s 4 DPOY awards to 0

@@jonathanvoge2418 should be 5 too

@@MasonPatrick2.0 nope Bosas are good, the Watts are better, better by a good margin

The NFC East in the 2000s were crazy with Demarcus Ware and Michael Strahan, also Trent Cole too.

Right on , Wake up Nfl

Nope, he had 2 22 sack seasons and a 21.5 sack season. Pro Football Reference watched a ton of old film from before they were measured and tallied them up. He never reached 26 in a season

Right on

*Archie Manning Will Remember That*

Ware was in his first year of eligibility this year, he nearly missed out. I hope/expect him to get in next year, he deserves to be in the HOF

I’m still questioning why Torry Holt ain’t in - Most Receptions of 2000s decade - Most Receiving Yards of 2000s decade - Most consecutive seasons of 1,300 yards - Most consecutive seasons of 90+ receptions - Super Bowl Champion

There is a log jam of talent for the NFL HOF, they expanded their entrants last year from 5 to 10 because of it. People like TO and Moss werent even getting in on their first years. Randy is a top 3 WR all time and TO is somewhere in the back half of the top 10 and still they couldnt get in

@@donsolos Moss made it in his first year of eligibility. Owens made it in his third year of eligibility.

Butkus and Rod Woodson. Donald is an all timer, but he's MAYBE the 5th best DT ever, it's just recency bias of people seeing such a great player in a massive market and rating him above 100 years worth of guys whom they probably haven't seen.

@@mangomangay7747 exactly. Recency bias at its finest. Mean Joe Green is the best DT

I agree with Lawrence Taylor because the man was one of the most ungodly freaks of nature ever. But Aaron Donald really doesn't have the same aura as White or Deacon Jones. If I had to take my pic between these three for I would want to play against.....I'd choose neither because I like living

@@Nutelko8 Good god I forgot about Greene. I was thinking of Alan Page, Randy White, Merlin Olsen, and Bob Lilly. Yea Donald is top 10 when ignoring the 60 minute men like Al Wistert, he's like John Randle, maybe a shade better.

@@7-sBone-Pit aura ? You’re literally witnessing the greatest defensive player ever, AD is above them

1987 was a strike year with mostly scab players on every team for 3 to 6 of the games. White might have reached 30 if he had crossed the picket line earlier.

@@05gtdriver I already know about the strike

I agree. Suggs can't even act. Have you seen the tv series ballers😄

K. Mack DPOY season in 2016 is also a head scratcher to me. He had like 11 sacks which is hardly dominant.

Not really, Favre had nowhere to go.

@@DaDualityofMan Favre called an audible to switch from a run play to a pass play. They were trying to run down the clock at that point because they were in the lead towards the end of the game. Favre gave it to Strahan. Favre has been a little cagey about saying it outright but still openly implying it while others have mentioned that it was an audible. The reason I say that Strahan would've gotten it anyways is because the Giants had managed to get the Packers number on the run game so that they couldn't just run the ball three times and get a first down that way. They would've had to pass the ball to get a first down and Strahan would've gotten Favre.

@@QwertyCaesar Oh ok

Number # 1 All Time Line Backer In NFL History

They Didnt Start Counting Sacks, Since 1981! + Deacon Jones Invented That Sack!

@@coldestvr_ PFR has gone back and counted all sacks dating back to 1960.

If tape exists of a game (so back to like 1927), you can watch to see when the quarterback gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage. It's just getting access to the tape.

If the nfl don't count it then it don't count

Deacon Jones Had As Many As Anybody, If Not More ( Unofficial Record Holder ) And As Said Here, He Invented The Term "Sack" As 2 Beat In A Sack

If I was Willie roaf or Orlando pace maybe

Bruce Matthews?

For real. It's unbelievable to me.

I agree. In my mind, TJ Watt is the sole single-season record holder

There was several players with over 20 sacks in multiple seasons if you count the unofficial numbers from before 1982

@@lightyagami3492 Well it's too bad we don't.

Even more strange is that the game-winning play happened on a missed sack. He had 7 but that 8th would have almost sealed the game

But he also had an extra game than everyone else.

@@DaDualityofMan He didn't play every game this season so that argument is dead

@@dtcuniversal6689 How do u know everyone on this list played all their games tho?

@@DaDualityofMan you can look it up?

@@dtcuniversal6689 Ik but idc enough lol

He was BADASS... used to go watch him play at the Coliseum...been going to Ram games since 1969.... Yup Fearsome foursome days

He was only DT for a couple years untill the rams moved him to defensive end

@@CorYxKeNshun tf yju talking about? Donald always been a DT. Only year he played more end snaps was in 2020. Donald been a dt since 2014 lol. Rams play 3-4 defense so in theory Donald was an end but he always played inside😂😂

Sacks were accounted for until 1982. So the nfl won't acknowledge it