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Every Magic Card is Basically Just A Lightning Bolt

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8thPlaceDave

8thPlaceDave

8 ай бұрын

I don't know about that last one, actually.
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@I_am_a_real_Eric
@I_am_a_real_Eric 8 ай бұрын
I think this is how my friends feel when I explain magic to them.
@brianhawkins8397
@brianhawkins8397 8 ай бұрын
An interesting evolution of the “every effect is kicker (or horsemanship)” argument
@alexsolomon9665
@alexsolomon9665 8 ай бұрын
Both of these realizations have completely ruined my life and I only play lands now.
@rebelresource
@rebelresource 8 ай бұрын
Sadly that argument is obviously false. Things like ninjutsu are fundamentally not kicker.
@liammclin5722
@liammclin5722 8 ай бұрын
@@rebelresource if you pay the kicker cost the creature can replace an unblocked attacker
@jmacmocs3367
@jmacmocs3367 8 ай бұрын
@@alexsolomon9665Hope you don’t play MBFCs which basically have kicker
@rebelresource
@rebelresource 8 ай бұрын
ah... but not correct. Returning a creature IS the cost... which is why you can do some INSANE shenanigans with Ninjutsu... For example in Pauper... you can return multiple creatures to hand with only one ninja... this actually becomes super relevant for recursive value on things like Spellstutter Sprite... you can return 2 unblocked Spellstutters with only 1 ninja in hand.@@liammclin5722
@MTGUnpacked
@MTGUnpacked 8 ай бұрын
Designers at Wizards let out a collective sigh of relief with the conclusion. Their secret philosophy is safe. For now😂
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 8 ай бұрын
Lightning Bolt is just an above rate card
@metalhev3989
@metalhev3989 8 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Lightning Bolt Alignment Chart
@loganbond8538
@loganbond8538 8 ай бұрын
Something I wish could catch on is calling fetching for a shock and having it enter untapped "bolting in" (because 3 Dmg) just like we say "shocking in"
@TaIathar
@TaIathar 8 ай бұрын
This is just another level of "Every card is just Kicker... ...and Horsemanship"
@fakealias
@fakealias 8 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics are real with this one
@tertmemelur1880
@tertmemelur1880 8 ай бұрын
POV your friend just read The Philosophy of Fire
@TSOWizard
@TSOWizard 8 ай бұрын
Still waiting to see how Counterspell is basically just Lightning Bolt. 👀
@jeremiahhelg
@jeremiahhelg 8 ай бұрын
Counter spell is a 2 blue mana spell that is usually cast on the 2nd or 3rd turn. The average mana value of the target of the counter is 2.5 by this logic. So 2.5 divided by 2 is equal to 1.25 or 3.25. Since these aren't whole numbers we have to round down to 3. So counter spell is technically a lightning bolt.
@specialk5523
@specialk5523 8 ай бұрын
It’s a lightning bolt that stops lightning bolt for 2 mana.
@AngelusNielson
@AngelusNielson 8 ай бұрын
And this is why logical doesn't always mean correct
@pitpiccione1191
@pitpiccione1191 8 ай бұрын
Average red player logic
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez 8 ай бұрын
I feel like I've learned so much, but lost so many brain cells while doing so that it balances out. This video is amazing.
@theDJOcho
@theDJOcho 8 ай бұрын
Wow, that was way better than I expected. I love seeing what players make equivalent and taking that to an extreme here, I am now convinced lightning bolt is not a lightning bolt.
@trickster20644
@trickster20644 8 ай бұрын
You are technically correct, which is the BEST kind of correct!
@doodlealchemist1257
@doodlealchemist1257 8 ай бұрын
“Basically” is doing some Atlas level lifting here
@xaropevic7918
@xaropevic7918 8 ай бұрын
From the same creators of "Every pokémon move is dig"
@Blu_Moon_Owl
@Blu_Moon_Owl 8 ай бұрын
But if Lightning Bolt is not Lightning Bolt then that’s a contradiction and then that means all the other cards in Magic aren’t Lightning Bolts either
@lancelot717
@lancelot717 8 ай бұрын
Now thats what I call... a Shock
@otticeunited9627
@otticeunited9627 8 ай бұрын
@@lancelot717 underrated comment ^^
@RelicSeeker
@RelicSeeker 8 ай бұрын
Which if no cards are lightning bolts, then we need to reevaluate what exactly is considered a lightning bolt, meaning that lightning bolt is once again a lightning bolt, and we can then use that basis to evaluate other cards to see if they are also lightning bolts
@Themrfuzzypants
@Themrfuzzypants 8 ай бұрын
This is literally what calculus proofs do.
@CenJohan
@CenJohan 8 ай бұрын
Every card is lightning bolt except lightning bolt which is shock
@Axnjxn55
@Axnjxn55 8 ай бұрын
Dave always delivers. Love to see it. I would love to see more of these
@SchmandigerWilli
@SchmandigerWilli 8 ай бұрын
It's just kicker.
@HadesElderSage
@HadesElderSage 8 ай бұрын
Unsure what Dave consumed the day he made this video but we need a breakdown. I need to find a way to reach this level of thought process.
@MrZeplon
@MrZeplon 8 ай бұрын
This is such an easy explanation of the philosophy of fire, I love it.
@thedude5able
@thedude5able 8 ай бұрын
As a Burn player, I could not approve more
@lus-an-tsalainn
@lus-an-tsalainn 8 ай бұрын
This has the same energy as "the square hole" video. Goblin brain is here for it.
@robertpreteroti3459
@robertpreteroti3459 8 ай бұрын
And that’s how you talk yourself out of a sale.
@MistressMajora
@MistressMajora 8 ай бұрын
8thPlaceDave: Where the Bird Bolts You
@TransformersBoss
@TransformersBoss 8 ай бұрын
My favorite Lightning Bolt is Worldspine Wurm. It’s 11 mana, but it’s a 15/15, so when I hit my opponent with it, that’s 15 life. Then my opponent plays a removal spell, and between the removal card and its mana cost, that’s like 3 life’s worth. Then, I get 3 5/5 tokens, and I attack with them, so that’s a total of 33 life, 11-mana, 33 life, it’s basically just bolting my opponent 11 times
@total_dk6517
@total_dk6517 8 ай бұрын
That last one was definitely a Shock.
@AlexOvTheAbyss
@AlexOvTheAbyss 8 ай бұрын
Damn, Dave figure out the secret to my Ooops! All Lightning Bolts! deck.
@codenamexelda
@codenamexelda 8 ай бұрын
I just got back from watching a youtube poop, And now this feels like a youtube poop as well...
@JoeNeutrino
@JoeNeutrino 8 ай бұрын
The greatest mono-red philosopher in history.
@pauldyson8098
@pauldyson8098 8 ай бұрын
8PD always brings me joy.
@Tempest-Official
@Tempest-Official 8 ай бұрын
I literally can't argue with this guy. My next deck tech video just got so much easier. 😊
@TobiasHellkyt
@TobiasHellkyt 8 ай бұрын
So that would mean Grizzly Bears is a lightning bolt, therefore Snug is a lightning bolt.
@8thPlaceDave
@8thPlaceDave 8 ай бұрын
Snug says he can't argue with that logic
@gigabytegamer1849
@gigabytegamer1849 8 ай бұрын
Everything must be a shock
@TodayWePlay06
@TodayWePlay06 8 ай бұрын
Waaaay too much thought went into that preordain logic😂
@tonyleier
@tonyleier 8 ай бұрын
If Preordain is that logic, then what logic works for Opt?
@midnalight6419
@midnalight6419 8 ай бұрын
Delver of secrets is the true lightning master. Casts a lightning bolt every turn.
@KhanGarth
@KhanGarth 8 ай бұрын
So if Lightning Bolt is only worth 2 life, it’s a 1 mana spell that takes away 2 life, which is a safe rate to print in standard. Therefore Bolt is perfectly fine to print into standard.
@zagumemes
@zagumemes 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't even lightning bolt in the first place wow
@Fargren
@Fargren 8 ай бұрын
This means if I cast Meddling Mage naming Lightning Bolt the opponent can't play any cards. Except for Lightning Bolt, apparently.
@JadeHex
@JadeHex 8 ай бұрын
Séance is just lightning bolt because it:
@compassghost
@compassghost 8 ай бұрын
Are we also saying that Vegeta and the Digimon are also Lightning Bolts? Because I'm fine with this.
@Draco137YT
@Draco137YT 8 ай бұрын
No, no. He's got a point. The math checks out on this one.
@dipian
@dipian 8 ай бұрын
That's why people play burn in legacy you just play lightning bolt
@arenkai
@arenkai 8 ай бұрын
Yup, he did the math
@natben6099
@natben6099 8 ай бұрын
yep. makes perfect sense to me
@mathgeek3_14
@mathgeek3_14 6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget and basically everything key word is kicker…
@bananakidboyoh
@bananakidboyoh 8 ай бұрын
So everything is lightning bolt except lightning bolt, but if lightning bolt isnt lightning bolt, therefore it doesnt exist. Meaning nothing can be lightning bolt, turning lightning bolt back into lightning bolt. Which then makes it so everything but lightning bolt is lightning bolt, but...
@metalphantomgames3966
@metalphantomgames3966 8 ай бұрын
If we examine Treasonous Ogre we can, in fact, confirm that 1 mana = 3 life. The math checks out.
@Surg-265
@Surg-265 8 ай бұрын
Everything that isn't LBolt is LBolt.
@BlazeBerger
@BlazeBerger 8 ай бұрын
Finally someone gets it.
@1ogic948
@1ogic948 8 ай бұрын
The philosophy of fire! (Kinda)
@Razomka
@Razomka 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha, made me chuckle
@ettorevolterrani2989
@ettorevolterrani2989 8 ай бұрын
You missed me at thoughtsieze
@specialk5523
@specialk5523 8 ай бұрын
I can dig this.
@BostonMoose513
@BostonMoose513 8 ай бұрын
My...god...it's all true
@captaindash1485
@captaindash1485 8 ай бұрын
TIL...well, not sure what I learned.
@Kurayamiblack
@Kurayamiblack 8 ай бұрын
I lost 3 minutes and 46 seconds of my life watching this. Since 4 is less than 5, the 3min-46sec rounds down to 3 minutes and we don't round the 6 seconds because double-rounding is sus. So we rounded down to 3 minutes of my life lost watching this. This means I lost 3 life for 1 click which is worth 1 mana when converted. In summary, I came here and lost 3 life for 1 mana which makes this video a Lightning Bolt 👀
@BigHit9922
@BigHit9922 8 ай бұрын
Modern day philosophy
@januszo.2180
@januszo.2180 8 ай бұрын
I cant disagree
@ShakerGER
@ShakerGER 8 ай бұрын
Nono he got a point
@sandpiperbf9767
@sandpiperbf9767 8 ай бұрын
Holy shitpost, batman!
@andrewspears8891
@andrewspears8891 8 ай бұрын
What if they made phyrexian mana cost 3 life instead of 2?
@qzzyozzy
@qzzyozzy 8 ай бұрын
This is so good
@6tiple6ix6afia
@6tiple6ix6afia 8 ай бұрын
Uhm actually kuz made my steamkin a 2/2 off rip so everything was more like lightning axe
@prn_Melatonin
@prn_Melatonin 8 ай бұрын
Is lightning bolt kicker?
@enjaded7222
@enjaded7222 8 ай бұрын
my mouth dropped as this man somehow connected the dots for the preordain segment. and actually mathed it out. wow, good job
@mattc4284
@mattc4284 8 ай бұрын
So Lightning Bolt is Shock, but is Shock a Lightning Bolt?
@scipio6142
@scipio6142 8 ай бұрын
if you're on the draw, yes, but only if you tape two shocks together
@dragemort1972
@dragemort1972 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved this video
@curtisrogers2721
@curtisrogers2721 8 ай бұрын
Is hasep oasis a lightning bolt
@DavidJohnson-tv1ey
@DavidJohnson-tv1ey 8 ай бұрын
Is Hashep Oasis a Lightning Bolt?
@a_guy_in_orange7230
@a_guy_in_orange7230 8 ай бұрын
Boy Math
@7Alberto7
@7Alberto7 8 ай бұрын
Make sense😅 mtg inception😂 amazing
@RealTal.
@RealTal. 8 ай бұрын
okay blud explan to me how telepathy is a lightning bolt
@AnonymousMaykr
@AnonymousMaykr 8 ай бұрын
feels like a Peladophobian video
@doctorexam6164
@doctorexam6164 8 ай бұрын
Lightning bolt downgrades to shock when on the play
@1973mckenzie
@1973mckenzie 3 ай бұрын
So lightning bolt is a shock ???
@8thPlaceDave
@8thPlaceDave 3 ай бұрын
The math checks out
@tacothursdays6546
@tacothursdays6546 8 ай бұрын
I think I have a learning disability
@Bob-lj3qr
@Bob-lj3qr 8 ай бұрын
They actually aren’t the same because they aren’t lighting bolt. To be the same thing you would have to be the original and everything you said in this video is false.
@jaygur3269
@jaygur3269 8 ай бұрын
FACE IS THE PLACE
@jaygur3269
@jaygur3269 8 ай бұрын
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