I got used to watch you fishing for your wincons in cube. Interesting to see this trend in your constructed decks also 😂

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Yeah players at fnm very frequently do not know what they are doing with engine combo decks xd

​@@Ski_FreakTo be fair, it's a lot more relaxed doing the combo on MTGO than it is on paper

Most combo decks have deterministic wins so perhaps save yourself the time if you recognize it to be the case.

@@LarsIsReal Honestly I enjoy storm on mtgo more once I'm warmed up to the interface, less social issues with the stack and interaction, and yep more chill. Does require some focus not to run out of time. I hate doing infinites on mtgo though, that sucks.

@@KILOBify Yeah a lot of comments seem to be missing that there is a bit of a decision tree to this, it's not always just 'play it out 100% of the time bro!' To be fair though, often in fnm players can fuck up even if they already did it properly once and it's deterministic xd

In chess you can trick your opponent into a stalemate from completely lost positions if you know what you are doing and they aren’t specifically looking to avoid stalemate.

Yeah I mean he could be lying to us, it’s not impossible, I didn’t feel like delving into that possibility in the video because it doesn’t really have much impact or evidence. I’d also believe it turned into a meme after this occasion so he just does it time to time, also purely speculation though.

I’ve watched a lot of LSV vintage cube, but I don’t think I’ve seen that one. Any chance you have the link?

I recall it was from some years ago. He made infinite mana and killed with SGC plus Corpse Dance

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Never sleep on the Siege Gang Commander

To be fair, it being Mike Long, he still had at least 6 drains in arms reach.

Lol that’s pretty funny, definitely a better deck to do this strat with if your goal is to do it on purpose

I saw someone pull that at a FNM back in the day, too. Generally speaking a player would concede to dragonstorm with 4+ storm if the storm player didn't have any dragons in hand. Dude would sub out the dragons in sideboard games.

Yep I totally agree, this is the optimal way to play the game if you want the best time and win rate.

The fun thing about CCG's is that even at the top level, there are a lot of people who are bad about recognizing the right things. You can get a phenomenal number of people to bite on obvious nonsense just by representing a strong state.

WotC used to have "fantasy pro tour" picks similar to filling out a bracket for March Madness. Who do you think will win? Who will top 8? What card will be played the most? Etc. For the winning player choice, LSV was banned as a choice, because he's just too consistent. This is the best way I can find to explain just how legendary he is.

Also VSauce music.

Nah, play it out.

@@AnonYmous-mc5zx I won a game of commander because my opponent claimed they had theoretically infinite turns and I wouldn't concede until they turned that theoretical prospect into an actuality. They wiffed on the 6th loop. Then my Decree of Annihilation cleaned up the board *real* nice.

@@Invisifly2 my favorite moment was playing a Daxos the Returned enchantments prison deck. My opponent got the stasis lock down, but by then all of my enchantments were making me/themselves/my other permanents absolutely unkillable via conventional means (he needed a board wipe for enchantments that didnt target). "Shit, alright well I guess I can just mill you out with every turn card draw." I had more cards in deck than he did. We called it a draw.

I definitely won a few games with that deck by tapping out all my mana and then emoting good game at my opponent with nothing in hand to spend the mana on.

They shut the store down permanently a few years ago unfortunately.

This happened at eudo?? Must've heard it a dozen times. Never knew it happened at my local store.

I made a bunch of videos for my trackmania maps so I already knew the basics of the software, and I made a couple scripted + edited videos already for trackmania. The first one I was happy with for my first video, and the second one I actually think is good, so I had a bit of practice before making this. Still a long way to go through! Lots of people make such cool videos on youtube.

It was lsv who said that demonic tutor was part of the pile, I decided to take his word on that one since I haven't played the deck, but this might make more sense.

@@Ski_Freak - I played with LSV in Sacramento, Carmichael, and Davis California in 2006-2008. Maybe it was DT in 2005 when the story happened. It was Dark Ritual when I began playing vintage. The deck split into 4 Mana Drain Gifts and 4 Dark Ritual gifts. 4 ritual was faster and could "go broken" a lot more often, but Mana Drain Gifts was resilient and could cast gifts on your own turn off the free mana from Mana Drain. I ended up defeating LSV for a Mox Ruby with my Mono Black Null Rod Aggro deck in Carmichael CA, and our good friend Ricky Sidhir won an Ancestral Recall in another event with his KAT deck. KAT = Kill-ATog, an anti GAT (Gush ATog) build. The Gifts package of Recoup+ Will + Dark Ritual + Black Lotus was essentially the best package. 1 Lotus 2 Dark Ritual 3 flash back recoup 4 Yawg Will 5 Black Lotus 6 Dark Ritual That is 6 spells and enough mana to go off based on your hand and graveyard. When I began, the deck even played one Empty the Warrens. Just casting mana rocks and Rebuild and/or Chain of vapor and recast the rocks was often enough to put 10+ Goblins in play and just made the game a 1-2 turn clock and was enough.

Wow! Amazing story. Would love to hear more similar to it =)

@@RafaelAAMerlo - Okay, here is a fun story and then a bragging style story: 1. Related to your video, and after having become friends of a sort with LSV, i went to the Lorowyn pre-release (I think that was it) shortly after he won the 2007 Nationals but before he won the Grand Prix. He won with Teachings control and Arcanis the Omnipotent. There was an article with his face photo-shopped over Arcanis and it was titled Luis the Omnipotent or something like that. Well, with our growing friendship, I convinced him to trade me his Arcanis and have him sign it. I still have it in my binder. I told Luis that I would wish for his Tendrils, but I know he doesn't have it. That got a good laugh. When I got back to the table of my other friends from Davis, I showed them and they first reacted "So what, it's just Luis" because to them, he was just our friend Luis who goes to the shop. I reminded them that LSV, even then, was becoming one of the best magic players of all time and was getting better - that his Arcanis is a part of magic history and his rise. That, when we are 30+ (I am 38 now), he won't just be Luis and we won't just be hanging out at the shop anymore. This is a chance to grab a memory of one of the games best and a true memory to hold forever. Imagine owing Craig Jones's Lightning Helix. needless to say, they then understood and started asking him as well. Before you knew it, I started a small craze at the event with then multiple people asking him to sign Arcanis or Mystical Teachings - the true key to the deck. 2. Because I got to know LSV, and went undefeated against him in Vintage tournaments in that era (I lost games, but not matches of best 2 out of 3), he actually approached me in between rounds of FNM and weekend events to jam a few games of vintage and talk shop. He is one of the best magic players of all time, but I was really good at vintage for about three years. When I saw that Tyrant-Oath won a big event in Europe and tested the deck on MTGWorkStation, I found it to be the best deck and had a heated talk with him, Web Ochoa, Jeff "FOB", Eirik and the rest of the crew. I must have convinced Webb because he took it to the Mox Emerald event and won it with Tyrant Oath by going undefeated. Those were good days of playing Magic at the highest level I could attain with some of the best players ever in one of the most prestigious formats of the time.

It's pretty common in events that aren't at the top level / esports in mtg. edit: By pretty common I mean not unusual.

Not sure yet, I have a list of ideas but I haven’t decided which I want to make.

@@Ski_Freak Excited to see whatever comes next

colors of jazz 1 and 2 are S tier back ground music

@@Ski_Freak And Blazo's a GOAT for not striking people and stuff I love that guy

Way back when Extended was a format I was playing in round 3 or 4 with no losses. My opponent was on Aluren, definitely seemed to have everything he needed to win assembled (he had Aluren resolved a Raven Familiar, Cavern Harpy and a living wish with plenty of mana) and was trying to convince me that he had everything and would win. I told him to play it then. We had a few spectators watching and he seemed kinda off kilter. He proceeded to absolutely butcher the line (can't remember how exactly, just remember how flustered he was) and I got the W.

I believe in 2009 a rule changed related to exile and outside the game, where the two used to be the same thing, so they had to change the wording on the related rules. You used to be able to use wish cards to get cards from exile and put them into your hand, and you cannot do that anymore, I believe this was changed around that time so I assume that is the reason, although there may have been a different rule change to cause this.

no, I believe that only became popular much later on

Yeah I totally get wanting to actually play out your winning combo or see someone else's, I think for most people who play with/against the same decks long enough it just gets old seeing/playing out the same sequences of cards (although with storm there are actual decisions to be made during the combo, so it's only boring for the opponent :p).

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Nothing, that is just the choice the opponent makes that in theory burns the most mana (there are other reasons you might not want to pick like that, but it's largely dependent on the game itself). In that case you untap on your turn, pay 3 mana for yawgmoth's will, then you have access to everything in your graveyard, including both of the other 2 cards you got, so you then get to make more mana and play gifts again. Once you play a second gifts or other big card advantage tool with yawg's will active you basically have infinite resources at that point, since a lot of the cards you get you will be able to cast twice and none of them will be entirely unavailable. This is kind of a bad explanation, it's quite late for me, but basically if the opp does that it's just -3 mana, so if you have the mana you are fine.

Yeah I believe that became popular more recently in tournament rules, but good point if someone wants to try smth like this again.