I have HEAVILY misunderstood melee influence XD

Man I love the Kengineer, really digs into builds and why they work. You're the reason I love Lavos so much, I can't wait till he gets his Prime, I know you'll have fun.

It was pretty funny before the nerf when Influence carried the armor strip from Shattering Impact. I was testing it with my old Xoris build (lvl 180 conjunction survival) and I threw it down a hallway then detonated it the moment the Accolite's health bar appeared on screen- the health bars instantly disappeared and it took me a second to figure out it spawned BEHIND ME, in a different room! The Xoris blast didn't even come close to touching it, just the influence spread was enough to instantly delete it lol

I really do appreciate the visual aids you present during the calculation parts. It really helps for me to understand better.

Your videos are wonderfully helpful, thank you. The examples of the damage calculations really help to give a concrete view of the damage calculations taking place. That, alongside the formulas available online, really allow me to feel more confident when choosing how I want to mod or even what weapons I want to mod. Thank you for this extra confidence. You're the best ♥

Thanks for the explanation! Was in the stream, but didn't grasp the full idea, now i know what we're talking about.

I've found the prisma ohma to be perfect for this

Daggers get to benefit from Amalgam Argonak Metal Augur - at the cost of your primary slot, you ccan add a shattering impact style effect to daggers (most notably the Innodem) that procs on the damage spread by Influence and, if I understand correctly, from the electric proc chains you can get from it. It strips the armor from tough targets *extremely* quickly.

God I cannot even begin to describe how much I despise the faction mods. We now have so many factions that you'd have to buy loadout slots if you wanted one for each.

Made a build using Melee Influence with Ninkondi Prime and Gauss Prime and that shit is so fun, I don't even need the faction mods, it hits so often it just melts everything around it.

I've been trying to figure this out for a while now, and a few weeks later from then this pops up!

In other words… it should be really cheap to trade for anyone. The Gargoyle’s cry event really speed things up.

The korumm trick also works on arca titron, really good actually

My favorite Influence builds at the moment: Xoris. Great upfront damage in a heavy attack build and reliable, but can't armor strip and overkilling enemies doesn't spread the procs. Falcor. Guaranteed Electricity proc on normal throw makes it reliable, and it can be combined with the volatile bounce mod to make it AoE. Can build 12x combo, but the lack of heavy attack makes it weak to Acolytes. Dagger + Argonak: High attack speed, armor strip through Argonak Metal Auger, and there are different flavors for it. Gas/Electric Innodem for the most damage and most consistent armor strip. Dark Dagger for near-immortality from shield recharge. Balla Zaw for combining with Exodia Brave and Tennokai for constant energy regen. Hate: Slower attack speed, but incarnor mode projectiles can also trigger Influence, greatly boosting effective damage, and Tennokai heavies will always have guaranteed and super-powerful slash procs for more annoying enemies.

Us Limbo mains be eating good tonight.

As an additional note: if using a dagger and the mod Amalgam Argonak Metal Auger each electric proc on each ennemi will deal damage to the BASE armour to them and to each other ennemi within 3 meter, leading to room wide armour striping

I've been having a fun time with this on the Ceti Lacera and a melee Saryn, but knowing _how_ it works now I'll be able to fine tune my build.

I've loved this mode on my Incarnon'd, Naramon backed Blood Rush/Weeping Wounds Nami Solo, with Tennokai for the fat and free heavies to trigger the transformation. I actually don't have room on it for viral, but I've been butchering netracells/archon hunt fodder with just the electric procs and the slash from direct hits. It's kinda poetic how my first built item has come so far with me in this journey.

I was doing everything according to warframes releases (im currently on zariman's rep and items) and noticed that TheKengineer did the videos for the incarnon weapons, except the felarx its a member exclusive or something im missing? if not i would love to see a video explaining it, in case there is a hidden mechanic like the praedos parkour speed

I feel like there's a special mention to be made for weapons with innate base corrosive, too. Then you can mod for electric and viral and have viral and corrosive spread as you're chaining electric procs around.

It would be interesting to see use cases for some of the other melee arcanes. Exposure and Vortex seem to have the broadest application potential; I tested the Dual Ichors with Vortex to see how well it worked and ended up looking like a full-tilt brawl from a cartoon, cloud and all.

I have been having fun with the serro (Pure electric and slash), the Ninkondi (I just wanted to use the funny nunchucks), the rumblejack (Can be quite nice with all that status and electric, plus the finishers are always electric too), and also projectile melee weapons because its fun (oh and the tenet agendus too). Plenty more still to try as well!

I can see this being really cool on the arcade titron

I love the rift and influence is kinda funny fr.

Something to keep in mind, especially for Detonating Glaives- is that the Vigorous Swap Warframe mod is multiplicative like a Faction mod for the Heavy Attack detonation. If you like throwing exploding discs of death, anyways.

My kuva shildeg got a buff when this arcane came out. I love being able to spread huge electric procs from the red crits. 😎 I have a riven that helps me get even more electric procs and faction damage onto a single mod. Then also the tennokai status chance. I'm glad I grinded for the highest electric bonus on it. I originally had it electric for corrosive. But now it's just pure electric monster.

Okay so question: my current setup to run netracells is currently revenant with 2 green shards with amprex, epitaph primer mainly modded for corrosive, and the Xoris with melee influence and condition overload as my main source of damage. I’ve been wanting to subsume Xata’s Whisper onto this build, but what with everything Ken keeps talking about universal faction bonuses, would roar potentially be better for this? I already use Smite Murmur on my Xoris but if amping it higher with a different ability makes that much higher of a difference, I’m all ears to changes

This man really LOVES numbers

Have you tested if the Secura Lecta could proc the credit booster with Melee influence ?

Spread status kills on the titron build slam capacitor creating an infinite loop of slam kills

I can't help but wonder: would Volt's Shock augment proc Melee Influence?

Caustacyst - corrosive, viral, electric + Melee influence. Gauss with this is incredible but I'm sure this would also be amazing for Limbo or any other frame. Subsume Wrathful Advanced for even more damage with those faction mods without the need for a high strength Roar.

With the Dante unbound update and changes to eclipse subsume I'd love to see the numbers between it and roar in a unnecessarily nerdy numbers breakdown.

So is it necessary to have Electricity be your highest damage elemental effect on the weapon for Melee Influence to work right? Or can I have viral damage be higher than electric?

This sounds like a job for my Melee Zephyr + Fragor Prime + electric/gas heavy attack build!

Watching this was very tense, for some reason

I have a riven with +crit +eletric -impact for the fragor prime and ive been using it with meele influence and its pretty effective now ill test it with faction mods and roar

Not sure if this is the correct place to put this, but My diriga procced Melee influence. Any idea how this could have happened? I had helstrum equipped and I speculate it’s the arc coil mods’ doing but can’t see the correlation. I have footage if needed i’d love to incorporate this in my nova build, thanks in advance!🙏🏾

On Xoris, using a toxin mod over the electric one gives corrosive without making Influence annoying to activate because of the force proc electric. Combine with 2 emerald shards for AoE full strip, which will cause the enemies to melt from the electric procs after their armor is gone.

Methinks i will scrounge together a build for my Kuva Shildeg i just got. Question, if you know, does the electric progenitor kuva shildeg proc melee influence or does it not, cause my current Shildeg is heat progenitor

Honestly i wish faction bane mods were just one mod, i know it’s not a massive hassle, but having just a “Bane” mod to not have to swap the faction bane mods would be convenient. I think it would make a lot more players happy than upset

Wow that's a lot of numbers

Im using the magnetic melee arcane with the classic argonak/dagger combo with gas. Comfy build

At just face value this arcane wouldn't be nearly as good as it actually is. Thank you Kengineer.

Here's the thing I'm looking at building: Plague Kripath, Plague Bokwin, Ekwana II Jai. Exodia Force, Melee Influence. Condition Overload, Weeping Wounds, Blood Rush, Organ Shatter, Quickening, Boreal's Contempt, Shocking Touch, Smite [X] Very fast attacking, builds combo quickly, good benefit from both status and crit...50% of status inflicting hits (which is basically every hit) will do 200% of weapon damage to every enemy in 6 meters, and a further chance for Melee Influence to proc on everything. It also has innate Viral for the proc list. I'd love to also be able to put in a Riven for it - I have one - but the dispo on Plague Kripath is so terrible that it's almost impossible to roll anything with stats worth using. Right now, the roll it is on is 56% status chance and 58.6% cold...so for 18 drain, it's several percent worse than a standard 60/60 cold mod.

Sounds like I'm gonna have to break out the Zenistar.

love ur videos

Wait. No combo counter mods? Also, I feel like the Dorclave will work pretty well with its guaranteed status effect passive. Thoughts?

Absolutely busted on zephyr. I don't know why but her tonadoes synergize really well with electric damage

Through a week of testing, I can tell you that Ceti Lacera and Arca Titron are now level-cap viable weapons. I even brought an UNRANKED RUMBLEJACK into SP Conjunction Survival and wiped the floor. Melee Influence is fuckin wild.

I wonder how this works with Nami Solo's 1.12 follow through adaptor..

Is this better to use on khora and atlas stat sticks or the corrosive arcane?

Lol it takes faction mods to triple dip to be seriously worth considering Trying to make this work with Ruvox and GYRE (of all frames, ik). So far my main issues are base damage being low and electric procs are underwhelming - but that might be a weapon itself issue rather than MI and armor strip - it needs to be outsourced (I run Pillage for that so can't run Warcry)

Is it prova time? It might be prova time. FOR JOHN PRODMAN!

In most builds i’ve seen most people mix Primed Pressure Point and Sacrificial Steel, wouldn’t it be better to put the two sets mods for the boost? I get that it would be more expensive to fit two sacrificials but i want to know if mixed is better overall or in certain scenarios.

Can mod prova vandal for corrosive heat and do slams to proc influence due to electric slam , then proc heat all over and detonate with cold sunder deeply amusing especially on gauss for scaling blast inherit , also can do it on ninkondi and a good amount of other weapons. With the slam , arca titron is the best example as influence damage will charge its capacitor stacks then you use tennokai to keep combo up you get some ridiculous slam spam haha electric proccing on capacitor slams for the proc

what did u do to the lavos 4th ability D:

My xoris is really happy with this arcane

200 percent rhino roar nourish xoris here I come. I’m so excited.

0:38 I still have mental trauma from Gargoyle's Cry

My favorite choice for Melee Influence would be Tenet Grigori. Can have electric bonus, combo timer paused on holster, high base status chance and also nasty heavy attack since it's a scythe

Syam with this melee arcane, kullervo/citrine, and full build, is INSANE. I also am looking for an electricity+cc+md/cd+(not too bad neg) arcane.

I wonder if this could work with Destructor Prime..?

Great. You told everyone. Ive been doing this for quite some time. Blowing up entire cities with the Xoris . I expect a nerf.

Another good weapon for Melee Influence is the Falcor - it procs guaranteed electric on a regular throw, so you can build to 12x and not build for specifically electricity

what about the secura lecta?

Idk if it’s just me, but I have this same build for the xoris and my damage is no where near as high 😅

I wonder if you can make a build war , heavy build

When did you switch the intro you use?

I still wish for a mod that keeps the equipped elemental mods from mixing so we could do cold+heat+toxic+electric damage with the same weapon at the same time Edit: with a variant for each weapon type

I have a rumble jack riven should I use?

Terraria music? now im a sub.

I'm so looking forward to the upcoming Lavos augment...

I feel like the Ninkondi could work well here.

I'm running falcor with volatile rebound and roar so I don't have to deal with faction mods. It is... very effective.

My Fantastic Rivens for my Destreza Prime or Glaive Prime, etc. are falling even more behind... I actually I used to prefer the Indura more, would have loved a Prime Version of it.

What about exodia contagion+ melee influence+ argonak? Anybody try that out yet?

Just tested innodem with influence on ash 150 kpm in sp mot survival. Using Dante and only killing with his "nuke" was 110 kpm.

Ive been trying to make a melee influence and exodia contagion build but have been struggling to find it since its probably just insanely overkill. Best Ive come up with is melee prowess, boreals contempt, organ shatter, sac pressure, sac steel , riven (60 cd, 130 cc, -40 punc), volcanic edge and molten impact. Im trying to min max the ever living f outta this kripath even though dispo and contagion kinda suffer, also using volt shield for elec proc. If anyone else has a better build please comment bc i feel like this could nuke even harder but i dont understand this arcane too well lmao (like interactions with condition overload and exodia contagion)

IF you don't wanna use roar you can also usue Volt's 1 subsume with the mod for guaranteed electric proccs without having to worry about it's chance to trigger since every hit will become a forced electric hit Edit: using Argonak with its mod and a dagger lets you aoe armor strip too

Any reason you want virulent and vicious not maxxed out? Melee influence feels like it procs just as fast even with electric not being the highest

They're gonna take that limbo interaction away from us I can feel it...

Limbo mains: We found it, finally. A worthy build. Our weapons will be legendary!

Is it just me or did the kengineer sounds like drusus levarian on this outro?

If only we could put weapon arcanes on to exalted weapons I imagine exalted blade would be nutty

Worth building a Zaw with Melee Influence because of Exodia Force, do you reckon?

Combine garuda 4 with melee influence xoris or any weapon 😉

amazing video, but still... melee exposure is more consistent and damage raw, even for single enemies/bosses

WOW

Melee influence Limbo nerf inbound

I’m more of a melee duplicate guy myself. Works hella good with swords

It's okay they'll nerf more AOE primary and secondary weapons before this ever gets touched

glaive prime with melee duplicate go brrrrr

Does it still work?

Dust off your Arca Titron, Ceti Lacera, and FALCOR boys, time for some fun

Yea I'm sure DE will eventually continue nerfing this due to how easy of an arcane it is to farm to do such major nuking capability.

And I thought that Memeing Strike would be the peak of Warframe brain rot.

It's a good thing this game is so hard to "beat"

Going in I honestly underestimated the power of this Arcane...only for me to end up two shoting twenty level 125 Steel Path Corrupted Heavy Gunners.

Nerfed in 3...2...1...