That was easily one of the most memorable moments of Dread (outside of the E.M.M.I's, of course). I still laugh at it almost every day.

and just the way that the only line she said in the entire game was basically "chill, i fuckin got this"

My favorite example outside of being a total boss in the boss battle cutscenes is when she first meets Quiet Robe and keeps her arm cannon trained on him for over a minute as he’s talking because the last strange Chozo she ran into choked her out and stole most of her toys.

@@JaelinBezel Not just that. She also snapped over to him. No wasted movement. She was trained on the Emmi and the moment she sensed Quiet Robe behind her her canon was aimed at him within a second. Not spinning around, no getting up. She instantly was ready.

@@Taygon45 That moment just really cements how this is far from Samus’s first rodeo.

I think you could make a plausible case for "Super," "Prime," "Echoes," "Zero," or "Dread" being the best of the series, and that some goddamn amazing quality control.

@@JamesWVanFleet Yeah, I would not be mad if ANY of those were picked as best. They all have qualities that make them extremely good. I tend to lean towards Super and Prime. Super just because it was WAY ahead of its time when it came out, and it achieved what it did on hardware that is VERY limited by today's standards. Yes, Dread is a better game in almost every aspect, but it's 27 years newer, on MUCH more modern hardware, so the comparison isn't really fair. Prime took the series into 3D, and proved all the detractors wrong, by being one of the best games of all time. Zero Mission was a fantastic remake, and the fact that you could play it on the go made it even more amazing at the time.

Super Metroid and Prime**

@@StormsparkPegasus I think Super is a bit stiff, if it controlled as well as Dread does, it would easily be the best in the series, however it is so good that it will often take the top of these lists until people stop making them, but I do think Dread and Prime are at the top of this list, with Super Metroid falling a bit to 3rd because of limited hardware, much like NES's Metroid falls so far back in this list because of it's controls and limited hardware. Having said all of that, I still think Super is a 10 and a remake will likely put it on top again, simply because it has an atmosphere that is still unmatched IMO.

@@syferz I agree, I think Dread is a better game than Super. But with Super I also take into account when it came out, and the system it came out on. Hardware was MUCH more limited then, which dramatically curtailed what the developers could do. Super was an amazing achievement for its time.

Prime 2 has some of the best subtle worldbuilding in a game that I've ever seen. Personally I find Metroid Prime 1 more fun to play but 2 I find to be the objectively better game with the exception maybe being ammo for beams. It's the same scenario for Majoras Mask and Ocarina of time for me.

Maybe Phendrana is a mountaintop? I dunno.

I liked Prime 2 more than Prime 1

Prime 2 is my favorite Metroid game overall for how well it builds its world, not just through main narrative, but also on the backlore. It took me a couple of playthroughs to realize what the hell Agon Wastes was even supposed to be, and made me appreciate the area that I previously didn't appreciate at all. That goes for a lot of things in that game that I didn't necessarily taste as much in Prime 1.

My mind says Echoes was a better game overall than Prime... but my heart just can't give that top spot over haha. They'd take spot 1 and 2 for me.

😭

The gameplay is fun but it’s just an epic fail in all other aspects.

does anyone actually think other m is bad game gameplay wise you always hear people say the game's story is poorly written but no ever actually says the gameplay is bad

It is better, in fact it is at least in the top half of Metroid games. The biggest complaint people have is with the game's story, and the largest reasons people give for the story being bad are just outright false. On top of this the complaint is frankly silly, when has anyone ever once factored story into a Metroid review? Maybe I was asleep but I completely missed where back around Prime 3 and Other M people talked about the amazing story of Super Metroid, except I didn't miss it because nobody talked about it precisely because in Metroid the story is an excuse for cool shit to happen. That aside let's tackle some issues people took with the Other M story. "It assassinated Samus's character"- This is just false, you literally don't have any idea of Samus's character prior to this game as the story didn't outline it. The closest we can get to this is the manga, which was untranslated at the time of Other M's release and Samus is 100% in-line with that Samus. "Muh Ridley Fear when Samus already fought Ridley, this is character assassination"- This is a half-truth, yes Samus was afraid of Ridley but in the manga where Samus is more emotional this provides a perfectly common trope by which Other M's interpretation falls. Looking at the games Chronologically Ridley is dead by Other M, he is 100% confirmed dead. This means that all the time Samus has spent staying strong to fight Ridley she can finally let her guard down, she doesn't need to put on the tough act anymore and can properly go through her emotions related to her Ridley trauma. Then as she faces the stresses of losing many people she knows personally and potentially Adam whom she respects, she runs into a new Ridley. Is it a trope to let one's guard down and be shocked? Sure it is, and it is the best explanation rather than it being a character assassination as it is in-line with the manga. "Muh Samus submitting to authority, sexist game"- Samus literally always submitted to authority given it was good authority, which given their past Adam 100% was. Samus is a bounty-hunter not some immoral savage that has an issue with authority, the fact some even took issue with this is concerning. I can keep going, but basically all the major complaints are dead wrong about the story and most can be resolved by using the fan-patch that fixes the horrendous localization errors. There's a reason why Other M had better initial sales than Prime 3 in Japan, and its because Other M actually is a good game. Before anyone attacks me in the comments, go actually play the game, the US sales numbers dictates that the vast majority of KZfaq commenters haven't played it. Then after playing it, maybe don't get your opinion from KZfaqrs.

Yeah I bought other m for the Wii I haven't beat it, but so far not bad ​@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867

Fusion was also my first Metroid and I think it is a great starting point in the series, as the linearity really helps you understand the core concepts of the games. I think my enjoyment of the rest of the 2D games was in part because Fusion helped me familiarize with these concepts, so I rarely felt lost in Zero Mission or Super Metroid when I later played them

@@adrianmartinez2076 very true fusion was also my first but I played zero mission first for five minutes didn't really like it, fusion made me into metroid and made me enjoy zero mission. If someone doest understand the core of metroidvanias they should play fusion, it guides but also gives you enough exploration and makes you want explore more. Linearity is what makes fusion special and what it is, if they remake I still would want that same game design, with little more added to feel new

Every time I awaited to hear a new soundbyte for the next in the list I was mad like 'don't you dare be fusion, don't do the game dirty like that' - #5 is higher up than I thought somebody Ive never watched before would give it. I personally love the game. I get why it's very decisive. I was very, very glad it was in the top half of games in the series. I will always prefer 2d metroid, but I understand why the prime series is so high up there for most people.

Fusion will always be my #1

I also loved Fusion, but It is by far the most linear Metroid ever. There is Not really a Lot to think or explore because the pace is always absolutely clear.

At the same time, I much prefer the wall jump in Super Metroid because if you get skilled at it, you can jump over walls infinitely.

@@Orange_Swirl You can do that in Zero Mission and AM2R, and they control much better.

I think the boss battles in Super are much worse too. It is so apparent after playing Dread which has amazing controls & fundamental combat. Even Fusion & Zero Mission have bosses that require more strategy than "aim your missiles & hope the boss dies before you" which I what I feel like the combat in Super boils down to.

@@fedoragent0077 Yeah, most of the bosses in Super are wars of attrition, exceptions being Sporespawn, Kraid, Crocomire, and arguably the final boss Phase 1, all of whom are real easy save the final.

Totally agreed, although I still like the art in Super Metroid and I think I would miss it a little bit in a remake.

I was thinking that with a few other Nintendo games that would fit. Also Sonic Pinball.

People would steal the hell out of the Morph-Pinballs tho

@@marioalbertomoreno3819 The balls aren't exactly accessible to the general public unless you break the glass or have the keys to the machine. It would be easier to just buy them, as they would have to sell replacement parts.

@@The_Toxic_Avenger oh yeah, forgot for a moment that not everyone lived in Latinoamérica xD

Hell yeah! Better yet, let Zen Studios remake Metroid Prime Pinball…Those guys make some damn fine digital pinball.

Zero Mission was sooooo good. I've kept my GBA for years just in case I want to play it again.

Would you put am2r above DS remake?

@@sefatsilverlake3816 They're both quite different and have both their strengths. I like both a lot, AM2R is more like Zero Mission as a remake, while Samus Returns is more modern and inclues some important lore that got continued with Dread.

I personally prefer the longer, free, open and less hand holdy/linear approach of super metroid. Prefer the bosses too

Both Zero and Fusion are perfect.

Unpopular opinion: Metroid Prime 2 was imo the best Metroid game with both Super Metroid and Metroid Prime 1 very close on a 2nd and 3rd place respectively. Don't get me wrong, I love this franchise and especially these 3 games can be considered as some of the best games of all time. But MP2 did one thing the best of all the Metroid Games: ATMOSPHERE. I'm a huge fan of great atmosphere in games and MP2 absolutely nailed it. From the creepy "Aliens" like opening with all the dead space marines all the way to the climatic 3rd battle against Dark Samus while the dark dimension was about to collapse.. The atmosphere was of the charts. You absolutely dreaded to enter the dark dimension and not only because of the great and creepy atmosphere, but because said atmosphere could actually kill you! So it started to invoke the feeling of dread and MP2 at some points almost played and felt like a Sci Fi horror game. Truly a stroke of genius by the developers (although some critics and fans hated the dark dimension) But every part of it was done to perfection.. The eerie music, extremely though enemies at certain points and the constant danger adding to the horror feel of the game. And Light Aether wasn't devoid of great atmosphere either btw. Especially Torvus Bog and Sanctuary Fortress were beautiful and extremely wel made designwise. Imo its one of the best games ever made and sadly criminally underrated.

Oh yeah. SķyTown is fucking gorgeous and has my favourite music in the game. Shout-out to Bryyo Cliffside and Bryyo Ice

I like prime 2 the best of the prime games. It's up there when compared to the 2d games as well but I think this series is just better in 2d. Prime 2 does absolutely nail the atmosphere though. I appreciate how it wasn't afraid to be different from Prime 1. Prime 1 felt more like a Super Metroid remake in a lot of ways.

I like GFS Valhalla and the Pirate Homeworld the most. It reflects my love for more tech heavy, dystopian/apocalyptic, and horror undertones. Eleysia, while steampunk incarnate just felt like a mild inconvenience. Aesthetically though, not bad.

i loved the crap out of echoes, but i remember getting stuck because the first dark world area i never bothered checking all the way around the dark world temple, and then spending actual days pulling my hair out trying to find the 3rd key, when it's just in a room at the back of the temple.

Na I would say either dread or zero mission is the best

Prime 1 is the best hands down

Either Fusion or Dread will be top

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You were right!

Sameeee but I do think it’s higher then even Luigi gave it credit for

That’s why I love the 3ds remake

@@darkhaven9119 Nah it's a bad remake tbh

@@DeadweightLKS a super bad remake

@@DeadweightLKS No it’s not. The majority of Metroid fans love it. They improved literally everything about it while also drastically improving the combat etc. The only thing that’s divisive and that people are bitching about is the melee counter and Ridley being at the end but a lot of people myself included still like that and didn’t really care about those things.

I agree to this.

Same

Glad there are others out there who feel this way. Not knocking Prime 1, but Echoes just really let loose and did its own thing. It's still not perfect and comes down to taste more than 1 as it's more in one theme, but it's such a tight experience.

@@nameforcomments4092 For me, I love how Prime 2 had a sharp difficulty spike compared to Prime 1. The harder difficulty plus more unique bosses made for some really good combat. Also I liked the beam ammo mechanic (hot take I know)

Echoes is heavily downplayed for some reason.

Certified baa dum tss moment

Absolutely agree, I'm a super fanboy myself, but man, Dread is just the best

I really disagree with it being fluid. Compared to Fusion, Zero, or Dread; it controls like ass.

@@stevenclark5173 to be fair Super came before all those games so I mean

"It's a blast to just explore" "Everything feels so perfectly organized" Ahem, *Maridia.*

@@splashor6361 counter argument- I said near perfection, not complete perfection. Here's why Maridia is good: Anyone have a gun?

My top 3 are similar with my list being: 1. Super Metroid (My first Metroid game) 2. Metroid Dread (Same reasons) 3. Metroid Fusion (This game just spoke to me on some level, it's also the first Metroid game that I enjoyed so much as to 100% it(I later went back to 100% Super Metroid)) I should note that I haven't played any of the Prime games and as such can't tell if they would be on my Top 3 list or not, come on Nintendo release the Prime Trilogy on Switch for those of us who haven't played them.

Those are the only Metroid games I played and I have the same placements and same reasons. Are you me from a different universe?

My top 3 are: 1. Metroid Dread 2. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (yes, I actually really like it, and for some reason I consider it my favorite of the Prime trilogy) 3. Metroid Fusion

Hell no. Dread was meh as f. Doesnt even make my top 10

Absolutely, Fusion is my favorite Metroid as well and probably my favorite video game of all time. Dread got the level of guidance right, Dread Adam in Fusion would've made it a damn near perfect game.

@@BoxCarBoy12 though a counter argument, Geek Critique brings up that a major story theme in Fusion is Samus losing and regaining her agency. And Adam's early strictness does make the moments near the end when you go dark and disobey orders a lot more poignant.

Fusion is my favorite too.

Deserves to be second highest at least.

It's Top 5 without a doubt.

Dread is perfection. Prime 1 is technically better but I like 2D Metroid more.

@@krimsonkatt I think Prime 1 suffers from convoluted backtracking and sort of unremarkable combat. Still, it does everything else so amazingly well that it's difficult to not consider it one of the best.

@@Orange_Swirl looking at it critically, it definitely is better than Super or any other 2D Metroid game. People just let nostalgia take over. From a critical standpoint, the story, and level design, Dread is way better than Super and Fusion. And I've seen many other people agree with me on that

Fusion is the most likely, since Samus Returns was originally pitched as a remake of Fusion.

I couldn't agree more with this comment.

Fusion’s playstyle is worse than Super’s in every way except for holding R for missiles. You can no longer control how high your jump is, wall jumps and bomb jumps are now useless, and overall you just do not have the control over Samus that you have in Super, one of a million reasons why Fusion has nowhere near the replayability and is a complete non-entity for speedrunning compared to Super. Fusion does several things really well, but its dumbed down controls are not one of them. Super and Dread have two of my favourite core control schemes in gaming once you change a few buttons in Super (X to select missiles, Y to shoot, A to run, B to jump) and they’re for completely different reasons. If I judge Super by what makes Dread’s so good, then it’s clunky and too easy to lose momentum, if I judge Dread’s by what makes Super’s so good, it’s dumbed down and has nowhere near as many options.

Dread is cool because of the flash shift but Samus Returns is better overall. I hate the EMMI. I hate running away, it's one of the reasons I didn't like Zero Mission too. Fusion is number one for side scrolling. I can't comment on the earlier games because I never played em.

@@juliusseizure4983 I can understand not wanting to run away, but Fusion started that trend. Granted it is definitely most prominent in Dread, but the player is explicitly told to run and hide when encountering the SA-X

@@juliusseizure4983 Well, while I understand the hate for the EMMI, I seriously can't deal with the "kill 40 metroids" as a main gimmick. It gets so so SO tiring after a while. If I have to play metroid 2, I'd rather play AM2R

Nice list.

Well, the trick with super Metroid is to play pressing the run button the whole time

a) there’s a run button, use it b) holding the A button for different amounts of time results in different jumps, giving you more control over Samus than any other game in the series except maybe Dread (in different ways) If you know both of these, and truly get a proper feel for them, then you can move way faster than any other game, do more organic and fun sequence breaks than any other game. Super Metroid’s controls are something that you master, and once you do its replay value is unparalleled; that’s why it’s one of the titans of speedrunning. The only thing that the GBA games’ controls have over Super’s is pressing R to equip missiles. Fusion’s controls are dogshit with no depth because of the dumbed down jump, nerfed wall jump and other things, Zero Mission’s atmosphere is dogshit compared to both Super and NEStroid and has very slightly more boring controls than Super because of the one-size-fits-all jump. One can argue about whether the simpler GBA controls are better, but I don’t see how anyone could deny how powerful Super’s atmosphere and art direction is: the only 2D game after it that can compete is Fusion and at some points AM2R. Also Super has one of the best endings in gaming (along with Metroid II/AM2R) Put it this way, Super is the only game in the series where something like Super Metroid Rotation would be remotely possible

@@clemandax9242 Using the run button isn’t always something I want to do. Especially since I don’t like the controls and cannot find a good place to change it too, even if I can change those controls.

This about offical Metroid games not fanmade ones.

Same, I played through some of it with my best friend when I visited him recently and we had an absolute blast with it.

BRUH. AREYOUFUKINKIDDINGME!?!?!?!? Super Metroid is one of the, I'd say 7 BEST Video Games Nintendo has ever made! My list of my favorite Nintendo games goes as follows: 7. Metroid Prime 6. Super Mario World 5. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 4. The Legend of Zelda Ocarina Of Time 3. Metroid Zero Mission 2. Super Metroid 1. Metroid Dread Where is your love of classics? I grew up with Super Metroid AND Super Mario World! BTW You can change the controls in Super Metroid.

@@sapphireskyes3571 You can change the controls but the game still handles like ass to me

@@superluismigueL100 Then try this control scheme: Y=FIRE B=JUMP A=DASH X=ITEM SELECT SELECT=ITEM CANCEL R=ANGLE UP L=ANGLE DOWN This setup works REALLY well. I can tell you personally because I use this control scheme. Give it a shot!

@@sapphireskyes3571 Hmm, i'll give it a try next time i fire up the game

@@superluismigueL100 Let me know if it feels more fluid than other control schemes.

That's why it deserve a remake Dread styles.

@@alexandrewolvex I agree. It's fundamentally designed beautifully and I want nothing about that changed, but with Dread's controls and bosses it could just make Super THAT much better. And probably graphics too, cause while super still looks good (especially for its time) Dread looks substantially better of course, although I know some people also prefer the style of super.

@@JacobPDeIiNoNi Yeah and what i love about Dread is the 2D game in a 3D world, the background, the cinematic and the game in general feel 3D and that is what Super Metroid need. Just imagine the fight with Mother Brain in Dread style 🤔

@@alexandrewolvex It would need _some_ tweaking, because the game is not supposed to have the ledge grab that so much of Dread's environments rely on, but having Dread's jumping, aiming, slide and graphics in Super Metroid's environment sounds awesome.

@@Sugarman96 i want more than just a graphic overhaul, in Metroid 1 zero mission and Metroid 2 samus return there had the ledge grab so in Metroid 3 it can be weird not having it. So we can have Super Metroid with much bigger map just like Metroid 1-2 and even new ability like the ledge grab, the counter move and the slide. Why not remaking Fusion and porting Samus Return on the switch so we can play the whole collections so i don't have to play on my GBA.

Dread is now also my favorite Metroid. It is beautiful culmination of the previous 2D games, as it takes a lot of the good stuff of previous games and enhances it

I agree with a lot of this, but... the atmosphere and music? Really? I found the soundtract to be extremely forgettable, and the atmosphere sorely gampered by how unoriginal the zone's conceptual themes were and how much they bled into each other, especially with large sections of each of the zones given over to emmi rooms, all with the same architecture & soundscape. In particular, the game is sorely lacking in a tonal escalation towards the end. Nothing like Tourian in 1 or 3, or the final areas of SR-388 in 2, with their dramatic increase in tension leading into the last fight. And that's to say nothing of what a mood kill 'Adam' is. The mechanics of ZDR's world design are pretty fantastic, especially with how many compelling sequence breaking opportunities are built into it. This combined with how much of a joy it is to just move samus around through the world is really quite remarkable. But the aesthetic & conceptual design, imo, could really stand to be punched up bit next time around.

@@Malisteen the music was the one thing that I really think needed to be better. Only two or three tracks were memorable for me, which is a shame because I love the soundtracks of previous Metroid games, especially the prime series.

@@victorescalona7760 I agree. But I think all the music tracks did a good job at SUCKING you in. And I found myself nodding my head and humming along while playing the game, but forget all about it once I stopped. They don't have much melody and don't sound very interesting without the gameplay and visuals to complement it. But then again, I feel like Metroid music was never in the league of Sonic, Mario or Donkey Kong Country when it came to the SHEER memorability of each track anyway, which is probably why a lot of people seem to pass Dread's "forgettable" soundtrack as more of a nitpick than a critical flaw within the game's design.

Same

Totally agree!

Same, expect that Echoes is my favorite prime game.

Lol no

Just a broad observation here from someone who has never played a Metroid game at all. Sometimes things that are considered "masterpieces" or the greatest of all time are because of when they came out. Take The Beatles. I can appreciate their music and definitely hear the influence it's had on the industry but listening with 2021 ears I've heard better. No one can take away what they did but it's hard to appreciate them on that level not growing up in that time period or with them being my first exposure. It's the same with games. I'm sure you've experienced that formula and what made Super Metroid did but done better over the years. It's the same with movies. If you watch Citizen Kain you'd be underwhelmed. It's not until you learn about how that movie broke all the rules and it's impact at the time that you'd appreciate it as "greatest of all time" Long story short, it was one of if not the first of it's kind and people usually hold that stuff in higher regard than it typically warrants.

Very fair statements from both of you. I too can see some age in Super, but for me, and many other fans, it still plays very well, and the quality of which the game is in considering it came out in 1994 is still really impressive. It's not perfect, but it's very hard to imagine what would happen if the game was "updated" for modern gaming. The game certainly isn't very strong in it's combat, but it's atmosphere and open design is likely what people remember most about the game, and it has those in spades.

@@andrewcosmicanimations8709 I love old movies and when I'm talking to anyone about them I usually hear complaints about things not looking as good as stuff today. For me it's all about context to the time when it came out. Everything ages but when you look at something through the lens of the time it can greatly improve the quality.

@@moomoocupcakes Agreed. Both when it came out and how it is today is certainly important. I find it impressive a game like this came out during that era. An open world exploration game? Very unheard of in 1994. And the fact a game that old still stands out as well as it does is a testament to it's quality, both then and now.

@@andrewcosmicanimations8709 the way I look at it is that it had to happen eventually. Fortunately it was implemented very well from the get go. I look forward to trying it for myself one day.

Haven't played Prime 3, but everything you said about Samus Returns was on point. Especially that melee counter. It was the first Metroid game I didn't want to complete. At least Other M was such a dumpster fire that I didn't want to begin, either. (I have PTSD. Fight is one of the options besides flight and freeze, and we already know which one Samus went for, every other time she murdered the scary space dragon.)

Yeah Prime 3 works way better if you haven’t played the others tbh

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 Later in the game the melee counter does become somewhat obsolete for the common enemies thanks to the beam upgrades and the screw attack. Until then missiles are a valid option and there is the incredebly satisfying ice beam-melee combo to shatter most smaller foes. The way the game puts the melee counter front and center together with the hightened wildlife agression makes it seem like the only option, even if it really isn't. I agree though with it being harder to return to or keep going, but for me it was the level structure carried over from the original that feels tiring. It is a blown up Game Boy game after all.

@@tobiasjenchen4647 The issue for me was that the aggro enemies were repetitive and swatting them all was annoying. It ruined any sense of immersion. I couldn't buy them as just being the local wildlife anymore.

Thx god Dread managed to find a decent balance for the counter. Samus having that and a melee option isnt bad, in fact it make sense and I welcome it, but in Samus Return it was getting really obnoxious when absolutely everything was dashing at you in need to be countered

I would agree. I’ve played all the main entries, remakes and Prime and for me Dread is the new king.

I agree, after playing and finishing super before and after dread, I think Super just suffers a little too much from “confusing map syndrome” that you might find more often in older games.

@@Cgreen123 lol I felt the same with Dread at times, ngl. Not nearly as much though

@@TurnaboutAdam See, I do agree cause I ran into a similar thought when typing out my comment actually, but I also feel like getting lost was more fun in dread, cause there was a lot more that I hadn’t explored yet? And the controls felt a lot more intuitive in dread, whereas switching to missiles with select in Super Metroid was a hassle, to say the least.

@@Cgreen123 The map in Dread is just much more up to date. Super's didn't show if you picked up an item or not, and it didn't even show you where doors were. I still think it's level design helps the poor map alot, because the room layout is usually very memorable, and you can basically draw your own map in your head, like with the Souls series.

Man I wish I could do that. None of us own a 3DS lol

I agree that Other M isn't a bad game. The worst Metroid game is still better than most AAA games nowadays imo. The story was quite good. BUT!!!! I absolutely hate the fact that certain parts of the story are just cut off and never developed. ESPECIALLY the story part about the murdere.. Who was it? Why did he do it? Never explained and completely cut off at the end of the game.

What's this about Captain Marvel? Are you making a connection because it stars a woman?

@@dreamer72 That or the idea of a stoic character being "fleshed" out with mixed results at best.

Nestroid?

If you haven't played some games you can just leave those games out of your ranking you know?

Based, Echoes is so underrated.

@@MaxMonado I still have an opinion on them. So I include them.

@@bezoticallyyours83 Metroid 1.

It's honestly my favorite out of the Prime games. I understand the love for Prime 2, but I just don't get the hype train for Prime 1. It always felt like the weaker of the three.

But also some of the worst. Olympus and Norion are really bland, bryyo's thorn jungle and fire areas aren't very memorable either. And while Skytown might be quite beautiful on the outside, you spend the majority of your time inside, which doesn't look as good.

Dread is now my favorite Metroid game but I agree it fails to deliver that "dread", I found the emmis more cute than terrifying . Metroid 4 should be called Metroid Dread instead because it has a superior horror atmosphere. Also, Fusion could have been a better name for Metroid 5 (you know, because that ending...)

@@godot_24 I would say there's even less dread in Fusion. You only have to run away from the SA-X twice throughout the entire game. Every other time you can just silently wait for it to pass.

SAME.

Same here mate, it's my favorite game too and such a shame it's so underrated.

I remember hearing so many Prime 2 was a step down from Prime 1, but when I played it myself, I found myself liking it more than the first Maybe because I was playing Trilogy which severely nerfed its most infamous bosses I'd like to revisit it sometime, but I no longer have my Wii or Wii U...

@@ClefairyRox I know why I enjoyed it better. It took more creative steps with this one, MP1 was more of a safe step in the realm of 3d for Samus. Alot of upgrades are just ripped from Super Metroid, but translated into 3d terms.

Ikr? Other M is overhated at this point. I prefer to play it than the original and Metroid 2

I agree. I would also easly put it over the spin-offs and the original Metroid 1+2. It's ridiculous how big the hate still is after over 10 years...is this Star Wars or what!?^^

Its a good game in my opinion as well.

It is an abomination story-wise, but it's not terrible in most other details. If you ignore the whole ruining of the Samus-Adam relationship, you still have a rather solid game with some questionable mechanics but that can still ultimately be enjoyed.

Its better than dread imo. I think dread is pretty meh and way overated.

Thank you! I thought dread was too easy, the story was too bare. The final boss was amazing, but Raven beak was killed off just after his introduction, which sucks since he was hinted at in the last game, showed up twice in dread and then died. They could have made him more important to the plot and had him build this massive army and had been this big threat that spanned through an epic story in multiple future games. But no, he just showed up and died. I honestly thought fusion and super were better. And as a sequel to fusion, I was pretty upset that they didn't continue the corrupt federation plot and also made Samus magically friends with them again. Other M wasn't perfect, but it had a lot more going for it. I honestly think the only reason why dread is so hiped is because it's the first hd metroid game, the first metroid game in three years and the first console metroid game in over a decade.

Dread in a nutshell. Parry parry parry parry parry parry. EMMI fight parry parry parry parry parry. Boss fight parry parry parry parry parry parry. Want a secret missle drop. Super run. Want an energy tank super run. Want that item. Super run. Soooooo repetative. Uninspired level design. Lazy. Metroid supposed to be a platforming shooter. Not a damn fighting game parry parry parry parry parry. God it ruined the game. The story and level design were complete ass too. Dread was trash imo.

Nearly a perfect video game, in my opinion.

@@TheJJZeeman I agree only flaw I can think of is that they should of made it longer !

Super and Prime 1&2 are the top 3.

@@MMACinephile Super would be top 3 if not for Maridia lol

@@xxProjectJxx LOL

Agree, its all preference at that point

Echoes is very underrated, and while I don't agree that it's better than Prime 1, I do agree that the one area where it surpasses the first game is in the boss fights. I think MP2 is the 3rd best in the series behind only Super Metroid and Prime 1.

Interesting that you say Prime 2 would likely alienate newcomers, considering that Prime 2 was my very first Metroid game, and it remains my number 1 favorite game to this day.

They say actions speak louder than words.

Nah the single player is wayyyy better then you think. It’s incredibly non linear and adds a lot of neat lore. The boss fights despite being reused significantly change between encounters which is WAYYYYY more I can say then dread copy and pasting Chozo Soldier, Chozo Warriors and the central control unit everywhere

@@cosmiclikesminecraft honestly good points but having to hunt down all the octoliths just to have them potentially taken from you (which always happened to me during the escape sequences) is somewhat annoying. and trust me, the lore isn't missed on me friend. especially the game's namesake, having six whole fleshed out hunters with backstories and reason to hunt Samus or each other or the octoliths was great, and seeing one of them popped up as a teaser within Fed Force AND Prime 3 is amazing.

It is difficult. I'd argue harder than any of the rest barring prime 2. However it is *incredibly* completion friendly.

I can't agree with this more. Prime 2 is my absolute favorite as well.

This, this exactly. It feels like Retro knew what they did wrong in Prime 1 and fixed it in Prime 2.

I do think prime 2 did have some improvements but it also did take a few steps back. The progression does not feel as smooth and the dark Faizon does obstruct and break the flow of the general exploration in many areas. The areas such as the caverns and ice areas felt more polished and immersive in prime 1. The dark Faizon puzzles where fun at times but also not very rewarding and hindrance other times. I think prime 2 is a good game but it goes slightly more steps back than forward. I think prime 1 does more things right which makes it the better Metroid game overall

@@H-TownGamer I disagree, the progression in Prime 1 is SIGNIFICANTLY worse. No game should lead you to the end of an area (ie; the Phazon Mines) just to tell you that you need to go all the way back up and cross the map to get an upgrade that is required for progression. The Phazon Mines alone do that for the X-Ray visor AND the Plasma Beam. Prime 2 tells you to go to another area for an upgrade very few times, and when it does there's always an elevator that leads directly to that area nearby. I will agree that Prime 1's areas were more aesthetically pleasing, but that's very subjective.

Beneath the Mask from Persona 5

@@kokiricomrades3008 ahhhh thanks

And Metroid 1 & 2 (original versions) will be close to last

Other M is overhated. I prefer Other M Samus than MCU Captain Marvel. Badass characters can have their low points like Tony Stark in the comics

A lot of people do include AM2R so it’s weird that he didn’t

Well not everybody is interested in fanmade games.

Yeah. I agree. I don't mind Samus's character in Other M Badass characters can have low points just look at Peter Parker in Spiderman 2 (Toby) Super Heroes are also humans.

​@@meganinten0078 I wouldn't call metroid other M a low point, unless low points cause people to act completely out of character

@@meganinten0078 Yeah, no... they kinda just wrote Samus terribly there, basing her off the games before Other M.

I agree. I never knew Metroid was about story and character for so many and that they didn't give a shit about gameplay apparently. The criticism often sounds as if there was nothing but cutscenes with bad characters and story in the game. oO

For its time, no. Gameplay is giga trash. Controls, map design AND CAMERA, progression curve, upgrades that actually have a use, pixel hunts that dont even provide lore or are mandatory, lack of drops, pointlessness of 80% of the value upgrades, etc. That are mechanical components that made games trash back in the early 2000s, god forbid a decade later when most of the industry already learned. Hell TN themselves were against it because of shit they learned from Ninja Gaiden.

Atleast those low points actually made sense unlike this one where it barely does. If Other M was a prequel to Zero Mission it’d atleast make some sense character-wise, but it’s instead post-Super after she’s gone through much worse. It’s not an awful game, but honestly it doesn’t feel like an actual Metroid game.

T’S NOT HATED ENOUGH! Lol for real though, Samus having ptsd is a good idea but it makes absolutely no sense for it to take place right at the end of the timeline, before Fusion. Story would’ve worked much better as an origin story. But that wouldn’t change the extremely mediocre world design

He didn't.

OMG I forgot about boost guardian. I tried to beat MP2 on hard difficulty and boost guardian took me down more times than I want to admit lol.

@@TheJJZeeman I've become expert at that game. The Trilogy on Wii makes it so much doable, but the GC proves the real challenge

Dude I know right really hard to pick

Pretty cool list, Prime 2 is my favorite as well!