Too much like work. I get paid by the hour.

Yep. "roadie wrap" makes so much sense since I was taught it when doing setting up events at my college 14 years ago.

Just don't pick up the wrong end or you'll get overhand knots in half the loops.

Gosh, I learn so much from Oscar Isaac.

Once you get used to it, it’s just as fast and you don’t even know you’re doing it.

Both e-cords and hoses have built in stopper. No knot required.

Okay but why would you be doing this with a water hose, this is for ropes

​@@terranova_camaybe you want to coil your water hose? Hoses need storing. Mind you hoses are quite unwieldy, it might be difficult to achieve.

Definitely don’t do that with an extension cord, that might damage the wires inside. Even the bight loop at the end looks like too much stress honestly…

bight loop is fine. the amount of time it saves doing it this way is worth the cost of replacing anyway. Done cords like that that last years and years. The amount of minutes saved not fighting with cords is way worth it. @@lxcky21

Riggas gone rig

For ham radio operators, this also works if you have a long length of coax, as long as it isn't hard-line.

You can put a lot of tools and other garage items on your garage wall. This rolling up with the knot is pretty dam good. 👍

So the underhand twist is the magic?

​@@lm4349 yep. According to the cable/rope/etc, it is still in a straight line. Going the same direction actually coils it. Alternating the wraps allows the cable to remain decompressed. When you toss a cable wrapped this way, as long as it has been taken care of and isn't a ridiculously stiff cable, it will lay out as straight as you throw it. But be warned; if you accidentally throw one end of it through the coils (or as we say, if you threw it through its asshole), you're gonna have a lot of spaghetti to unravel when you toss it.

Really? I find this hard to believe since I'm 37 and everyone I know has known this since kids, even a lot of girls. If I'm wrong, though, good on ya for still being willing to learn stuff

Me too 😅

I’m 96 and I also never knew this existed! See, you’re never too old to learn.

I’m 41, my grandfather showed me how to roll up a lead when I was 7

@@copperwopper6429 yeah your wrong. I know and do this but the people on my crew no matter how many times I bitch about it and show them they won't do it. Gets on every nerve in my body!

Don't over under continously if you ever think about putting the cable on a drum though. They are always over over. That is why continuing with over over is just as good as over und if both ends are free. It entirely depends on the situation

A great way to help with cable "memory" is to bundle it in the way you want it to be, then leave it outside on a warm/hot day (like 70-80° you don't want it too hot and ruin your cable) bundled in the manner you like. Then you un-bundle it and re-bundle it and repeat the process 2-3 times. At the end of a work day when you store it, you'll find its "memory" will default to the way you bundled it, making future wraps much easier.

The difference between using a drum and manually wrapping a cable over-over, is that a drum rolls the cable up whereas by hand we impart a twist with each turn. When wrapping over-over by hand, the twist is cumulative and eventually turns into a tangle. Novices wrapping cable over-over spend most of their time moving the tangle away from the wrap (unwittingly increasing the amount of twist in the section they'll come to next). Over-under twists back and forth, so it doesn't build up.

This is interesting because this is not true when it comes to rope. As a fisherman you would NEVER do this with a line. Odd.

@@TG1_618 This is true. Is it 1/2 rotation per loop of coil?

I'm in construction and this is how I do my my cords. Hell I 100' 6 and 8 gauge cords it works fine. This isn't about it getting hung up on something after it's uncoiled this is about getting it uncoiled without it being a damn birds nest you have to spend 30 minutes untangling before you can use it. Just can't get my help to do it no matter how many damn times I show them. Pisses me off.

@@charlessarver8350 That's basically how I've been winding extension cords for 30+ years, really doesn't seem to matter where or what is going on, if I pull the cord out straight, no kinks, no tangles, it'll still get hung up on something, some idiot will part the forklift front wheel on it, it's just gonna happen.

If you wrapped your cords right they wouldn't get hung up ever.

@@LordDeuce-ul7my right, because job sites are clear, there's never any rebar or vehicles parked in the path, never any trees or bushes or 2x4s or anything else for them to get hung up on... Seriously, you guys have never worked construction if that's your takeaway.

@@glenwaldrop8166 I've been working with guys that always get their cords all tangled and rats nest. Mostly because they don't roll them up right to get them trained right. After that it's just skill and knowledge of how to run your cords and experience managing cords and air hoses without having slow downs because of tangles. It's extra work extra time makes it a pain in the ass. It happens sometimes but you try to minimize anything like that unnecessarily slowing you down and causing you to have to exert more effort than necessary. I grew up working with my dad so he taught me a shitload about managing cords on a job site as a kid then I worked my whole life in construction. I never have issues with cords if I'm the only one using them

Former A/V guy here. Was just going to comment the same!

Not just the roadies and stage techs. Musician here. I have more than one method of securing cables, and reasons why I use each method. Of course one of those methods is the 'roadie wrap' aka over/under.

@@jazzcatt There's situations where under/over won't as well, such as lavaliere mics. Those it's best to wind up carefully by hand to avoid any twists at all.

Not just techs! Our front ensemble had to coil the cords like this or we’d get in trouble. And now I can’t wrap a cord the same way ever again.

Aye, ol' stage tech here lol

Learned it when I started playing music and we had to pack our own shit in and out of venues. Now even my phone chargers get the over-under haha.

I was taught it but I don't think I did it right, because cables still got tangled. They got more tangled than if I'd just looped them.

The man that taught me said to do it only with the audio cables, since HDMI cables can be fragile twisting like that could break the internal wiring in them

​@@Mat69420k you might have that backwards, doing it like this avoids twisting the wire and is actually better for the cable Optical fibre is also rolled up like this (or a variation) because it would break immediately otherwise

Aye, there are my people! Fellow audio and sound people know this is a must! 😁

It happens when you work with them every day 😊

It never fails to fascinate me that this isn't intuitively obvious to people.

Yet they ignore actual real life scenarios where YOU Don't TIE KNOTS IN HOSES OR ELECTRICAL CORDS . Just pointing out how naive ppl have become.

It really tells you how much being an engineer(maintenance) department of a children's hospital matters in this types of situations Thank God we couldn't really live without an engineer (maintenance) department of a children's hospital

​@@skydivenext superb

​@@skydivenext Absolutely hilarious, but are you aware that the only new principle involved in the turbo-encabulator is that instead of power being generated by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, it is produced by the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive diractance. The original machine had a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The turbo-encabulator has now reached a high level of development, and it’s being successfully used in the operation of novertrunnions. Moreover, whenever a forescent skor motion is required, it may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle arm, to reduce sinusoidal repleneration. All this would have been impossible without the maintenance (engineering) department.

Time is 🤑💰 money...When your working by the hour take your time.... Ain't it just ain't it 😜 lols......

@@jeanlawson9133 Taking the time when putting a tool away makes a lot more sense than packing things up quickly then having them tangled up/not working when you need them in a hurry. Some outside contractor has been hired to install some new lights outside the patient rooms for the nurse call system. They have the greenest apprentice you’ve ever seen doing the work, and he shuts off the correct breaker but then cuts the wrong line in the ceiling. Now you’ve lost power to a critical patient monitor that has a battery backup, but it’s only going to last a few minutes. You (the guy from engineering) run and grab an extension cord so you can pull power from another room… but as you start to deploy it, it’s a tangled mess. Now you’re red-faced and sweating as you try to tell the charge nurse you’ll have it fixed up in just a minute while all the staff in the area as well as the patient’s family are huddled around watching you feverishly try to untangle this cord enough that it will reach where you need it to go. Of course every day as a hospital engineer isn’t that dramatic, but taking a bit of time to care for your tools can be a wise choice.

Thank you. I was looking to see if anyone would mention the clove hitch. I learned that knot while installing a theatre in a high school. Never forgot it, after 20+ years.

We weren't. Don't be that guy.

I don't see flat cords anymore. I'm glad to see them go since they were the worst to handle.

@@joewoodchuck3824Maybe they got too flat and your eyes are too old to see them now. That happens to everyone.

Faking. Not Flaking.

@@ETC_Rohaly_USCG, no, no. Flaking.

Yep, been there done that and you make a very valid point. Now 71 and haven't been on the road for 35 years, but still use over/under on all my cables and hoses. Figure 8 works well on the big stuff, but prefer a hose reel. Connecting the M/F ends of XLRs are also the best way to keep the M pins protected and F holes clean. Otherwise, I prefer using velcro cable ties on one end of extension cables, instead of the demonstrated knot. BR 😎

You articulated that so welll

I do the exact same thing. I knew I’d find some Audio boys in here.

This is only good if you don't mind the fact that fuckboy int he video clearly demonstrates how to crimp the hell out of the end of the cord and the multiple close loops couldn't be replicated on an electrical cord without damage to being with.

So then if you for what ever reason wanted knots along a rope you could do this intentionally, I'm just curious would the spacing between the knots be pretty even or would all the knots end up in one end?

This has been around since before power leads were even thunk of .

Yeah, I don’t stick with either, I go with how the cable wants to go on each individual coil. If it wants to lay with a regular coil, it gets a regular coil. If it wants to go over under, it gets over under. Or better yet, if it’s sensitive and/or expensive like fiber or triax, wind it up on a spool.

@@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson That is best for the cable for sure. I do hate when a cable spool gets messed up though. It turns into a nightmare.

@@ShouldHaveBeen lol yeah, if the spool doesn’t look like it just came from the factory my OCD starts acting up.

Yeah, that quick release and knot are good for rope, but I would have been fired a long time ago if I had ever done that to cable. It's a cable killer. I wish the video hadn't ended this way, so many people aren't going to read the comments.

It'd called tensile strength cords. Most durable cords rated for outdoor use are fine. Quit being a baby, and use those knots

minimum bend radius. and yes we typically use velcro straps to keep them together. some tour companies use color coded electrical tape to keep the cables neatly wrapped. a knot tied on the cable itself will mean its NFG and needs repair thats how av production pros do it. you outdoors survival guys do your cables however you want

Extension cables have a plug at the end. That's the "stopper" you would use rather than tying an extra knot.

​@@JonFromWA you don't pay for anything you work with, do you?

Better to use the mountain climbers technique, then you can just toss the chord around in your work truck.

I wouldn't recommend the final step for those.

Yeah on cables don't do any tight bends it damages or breaks them. Say no less than 2-3" diameter

And using a 20 ft or shorter helps too

Leaving them laying outside forever and boom always deployed

@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 human innovation at its finest

Do this in Arizona and you may find it's now like this permanently

When I do this and then throw the extension cord, I get about a knot every 2 ft. Am I doing something wrong

Your extension cord will only last about half of their regular lifespan if you start tying knots them. The underhand twist is useful but when used for power cords it's with the reasoning that it keeps the cord knot free and prevents the wires inside from breaking, which they will do if one is continually tying it in knots. The same goes for hosepipe, start knotting it and it will develop kinks and leaks. My advice is to use the underhand twist and use a piece of rope that you can keep attached to your cords or hoses to make your handle.

My advice is learn an electricians knot and stop watching TikTok. This was solved decades ago.

​@@ajl6854What is that? An electricians knot?

@@markharmon4963 might be called something else but it’s the term I’ve always heard. It’s a way to braid wires for storage and it’s very easy to unwrap them by pulling the end out. My dad taught it to me when we’d do yard work. We never coiled any extension cords.

electricians braid*@@ajl6854

Be blessed,you ve been in hell at time ,take a deep breath,your life's Matter ;)

No it's called a half hitch.

I learned over-under as a stagehand and they said something like the cord has a "memory" or some shit. But wire that has always been properly coiled is noticeably different when compared to one that hasn't been. With electricity being a huge factor in our everyday lives, you'd think that keeping cords in good condition would be more important

@@BabaYaga214 Steve Mould coincidentally dropped a video entirely about folding wire into circles: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y650hrN0ssCyp6c.html He's specifically working with closed loops, rather than open-ended cords, but he very effectively demonstrates how twists can be potentially introduced, and I think some of the same principles are involved here.

That's wonderful,I'm sure every time you doing it reminds you the picture in your memory and how real teachers share knowledge to kids and turn's them into skilled weapons for good to others after his life and the nextone ,who is coming out to continue the expression of thinks meaning makes matter alive..be blessed

And for 2/0, we just lay a figure 8. It's not as compact, but it's easier to do with extremely heavy+stiff cables, & still pays out without twists in the line.

@@prophetzarquon1922 we also use 8s whenever we have power running through a large coil. Electromagnetism and what not.

@@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson _Shhh, it's more fun to let the new folk figure it out first-hand!_

Step 1: Look for the nearest apprentice….

@@armandomejiatakara818 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebCWpMeFu9jHhoU.html

Musician?

Especially in video production too

@@danielsjohnson think instrument cables

​@@danielsjohnsonSound cables.

This was the first lesson on my audio tech program. Anytime you see a musician on stage who doesn't know how to coil a cable, you know he hasn't been in the scene for too long.

Go find any cord you have whether it's a charging cable for a mobile device or an old extension cord of any sort and practice literally right now! This will ensure that the next time you are around any type of cable you will remember

over-over is good if you know the cable will spooled out perpendicular to the axis of the coil. over-under is good if its deployed parallel to the axis of the coil. weirdly, a lot of stage lighting companies in the US wrap their cables over-over. i dont know why, but they make it work

thx

Hahaha, i learned this method the very first time i helped an audio guy pack up his stuff. He was yeling at me, heeey wtf are you doing man, let me show how it's done 😂😂😂

@@charles_king that's usually how it goes down 😁 We love to show people how to do it, so its one fewer person that ruins cables lol

As an audio guy too, that's one of three methods I know to wrap a cable. The most important thing (for us) is avoiding to twist the wires inside.

Also as an audio guy, I flat stack, but twist so that the coils lay flat. As a climber, rope is coiled between straight arms behind the head, and at the base of a climb the rope is "flaked out" , ie loosely piled on its self. There's also " saddlebagging" on hanging belays that I can't be bothered to try and describe!

aint no way you worked in music and didnt know the OVER UNDER!?? must have been ruining peoples cables left and right omg

@@lukeswagwalker1435 I didn’t say I worked in music. I PLAY music. I am an ARBORIST. ‘Omg’

@nickmonk7945 What do you play???? something without any power i guess?? if not thats wild

@nickmonk7945 most people who play music know the over under so they dont annoy sound guys

@@lukeswagwalker1435 do you think you’re superior in some way because you are already aware of this technique lol? I have many guitars, bass, drums , pedals etc been playing recreationally for over 30 something years and I simply haven’t had anybody show me this technique before. Similarly, I’ve been in the arboriculture industry for 20 years working daily with a wide variety of ropes and haven’t come across anyone who uses that style. I am now aware of this technique! At some point you also were not yet aware of it. You learned it from someone at some time. There’s many ways to skin a cat and I’ve never had any serious issues with my cables from *not* using this technique! Judge not, my friend, lest he be judged.

airless sprayer ! l hav a graco l need help with.. are you in the USA? : /

Yes whassup? We use large titan speeflow units but i might be able to help@@BEAUTYnIQ

Thx a bunch!

Same, not as long as you but I do sound engineering and I’m also a DJ. Once I was taught this I havnt gone back

I use the twisting method. I hate the over under method. It makes an atrocious tangle if you don't unravel from the correct side. I've had a band for 12 years now, and we all agree: Over/under method is terrible.

My dad simply put them on a spool.

For people that come from a family of construction workers, sailors and farmers

I learned this when I was 2. Your way behind in life dude.

@@actionjacksondan do people use lines so infrequently as to not know stuff like this? Do parents not teach their kids useful skills anymore? I get they may not be using rope in particular too often, but hoses, extension cords, hell, even Christmas lights can be coiled like this. These aren't skills that are unique or focused to the trades anymore than using a screwdriver or hammer. It's just a basic skill mind that everyone should know in my mind, same as sewing, painting, cooking, stuff like that. In fairness, this coming from a guy who had to Google which Ethernet port to plug into to wire an Xbox to the router. Nobody knows everything I suppose

Yes ,and seeing out missed ppl doesn't stop us to show them if we know how to do it..same with us you me and them ..I believe that we have to show everything everytime to anyone with no difference by age and without exception..this speaks how productive can we be in way of creation if we all want to continue the meaning of civilization long time ago😢 thanks by the way

*stopper knot

My trick to help with that is making sure the heads are snugly flat against the side they're supposed to go. Doesn't mean other people always pull them that way, but I rarely have problems.

My trick to avoid that issue is to connect the plug and socket on the outside of the loops. Secure them there with Velcro or cable tie if possible. That also helps prevent damage to the pins and blocks dust and junk from getting in the socket.

put all the pretzels together and feed one end through. bam no pretzels

Tap the three dots at the top and then you can "save to playlist"

Ya your mom has a save button also

You can always just share it to yourself, then copy the link into your browser bookmarks.

they do.. its under "watch later" or favorites.. plus, you can also email to yourself! click on "share" and then email..

Ya definitely not needed for ropes or cordage. Sounds like it’s works for wires and cables though.

Well yeah you don't need it with a rope that's thick enough to keep its shape and not try to coil back on itself, but that's not really what the clip is about

@@CADClicker Lol You’ve never experienced coiling heaving lines. No all you have to do is rotate the line as you coil so it doesn’t do that and lays naturally. Takes practice but everyone usually gets it eventually.

Roll it out as straight as it lets you in the sun and leave it there to warm up and soften for a few hours, then roll it up like he shows. I always connect the plug and socket on the outside of the loops to help protect the pins from damage and stop the plug from finding it's way through the middle of the loops to the other side.

Tie sash cord around one end. Pretty easy.

This is a stopper knot at the end of the rope... did you ever put load on the first 6 inches of a rope??? You really trust your knots that much???

​@@MattCantSpeakItLearn how to use an ellipsis.

Sadly you cant fix stupid.

​@@gregwessendorf good tip! 👍👍 I use velcro

Plus that half twist relieves some tension on the copper inside the cable. As you roll it without doing that, the copper is twisting too.

We used to do this with mic leads and multi cores, you don't do the quick release tho

High quality power cord does not have this problem. Such as flexible SJOOW

The over/under method is well known and works well with both long ropes (think marina/boating applications), as well as long power cords (think construction sites). So yes, there is a big difference between a power cable and a braided rope, but the over/under still works great. Also works great with garden hoses. There are a couple other methods that achieve similar results, such as the "chaining" method, but this is the easiest/simplest (IMO). The "quick release" part I wouldn't use. You can get a clip with a handle that works better and doesn't require you to tie a knot in your material.

I've used this on 3ph 100A cables that is around 2" thick. Yeah, there's memory when you first attempt to wrap it but it can be done. You just got to be strong about it.

It works on electric cords and air hoses. Just don't pull the cord through itself.