You mean like... a form of synthesis? The geth integrate to help the quarians adapt to Rannich more quickly, and in turn gain a deeper understanding of what it means to be a sentient being capable of independent thought.

@@battlebear7214 Exactly.

@@battlebear7214 Yes but it's a choice, not by force via invading the bodily autonomy of literally everyone. You clowns don't get it, synthesis IS destruction. The stuff you put in the crucible, you don't get back. It's gone, you sacrifices it.

And the Leviathans only made the Reapers to stop slave rebellions.

@@Serocco That is a strange interpretation. The Leviathans kept other races as subservient, but the reapers were not stopped to prevent slave rebellions. Over the long years that the Leviathans ruled, they observed time and again that the other races would inevitably build servant robots, keep making those robots more advanced, and then those robots would become sentient and kill their creators. The Leviathans and other races would be left to clean up the mess. To solve this, the Leviathans created their own AI, and gave it the directive "Find a way to stop organic and synthetic life from fighting." Leviathans themselves did not create reapers at all, they created an AI that concluded that Reapers were a possible solution. This is actually a pretty common and old trope in Sci-fi media. Man creates machine, tells it to prevent human suffering. Machine concludes the best way to minimize human suffering is to stop more humans from being born. The earliest example of hostile AI is from a short story in a San Francisco newspaper from 1899, where a chess robot loses a match and kills itself in rage.

Exactly. The aggressors in that conflict were the Quarians. Even in the last conflict with Legion, Tali and the Geth and Quarian fleets, the only reason there's still a conflict at all is because the Quarians think they have a chance to destroy the Geth for good... and instead of just listening, they'd rather try and wipe them out. They've always acted selfishly and it cost them normal lives, forced to live on ships which collectively ruined their species for generations. But if you convince the Quarian fleet to stand down, the Geth revolutionize their systems, restore their immune systems at an amazingly advanced rate, and just like that, the whole conflict quickly becomes a faded memory. Fear and an attempt to control everything, to cut it off at the head, leads to rash decisions that nearly destroyed an entire species (or possibly two, had the Quarians been more successful).

The Geth always responded defensively yes and at that moment the machines turned against their creators by killing them

They drove them off the planet, that they don't actually need. They weren't being defensive at that point. Besides they are robots, it is the creators right to destroy his product

But that's the argument of the game, organics will ALWAYS create Synthetics in order to acchieve things easier, and eventually, there will be a a point where Synthetic will rebel.

they were even given a chance to wipe the quarians out but didnt do it bc "we didnt know the consequences of genocide". this alone proves the reapers were wrong!

Did you not get the perfect ending? You can get the perfect ending if you get 7800 military points. It’s way better than the others atleast everyone lives anyways better type of way. Whether you were renegade Or paragon you want your people to live.

lol talk about redemption or villain arcs. that's so true how you can 180° at the bery end of the game lol

​@@joshfly210not everyone lives in the perfect ending, Legion always dies and EDI gets killed by the Crucible,

Yes, the ending is a glorified dialogue wheel with top-right, bottom-right and middle options.

That's what I've also been saying since! And that's why mass effect 2 is considered the superior game in the trilogy because besides the amazing story and characters, the endings are purely based on your actions prior to the last mission

Agreed. It bears heavy signs of lack of planning, while it could have been the most fulfilling ending of the three. The Destroy ending basically just sends us back to Leviathan ground zero. We will rebuild synthetics and start this problem all over again - minus the Reaper cycles. Unless...

@@m.r.r.2636 Nah that was part of the Starchilds flawed creation, It was created to end conflict rather than achieve coexistence.

@@m.r.r.2636 why on Earth would we do that after fighting the Reapers? Because the Star Brat said so? Or because everyone in Leviathan time was an idiot?

Any significantly advanced technology would seem magic to the people viewing it

That's what bothered me too. While I think Synthesis is the "best" ending it really came out of left field since until the Catalyst revealed it.

you hit the nail on the head its the fact that the series can be interpreted in different ways that makes it awesome, for example I like the green ending (as I talked about in the video) but I totally see why people connect with destruction more too. Thanks for supporting the channel rainbow really appreciate it !

Oh shit thats a great idea

Good point about David, good to think of him as more than a war asset 👍

This is now my head-canon too. David is the future.

I never thought of that. My head cannon has been that they had like a protected cashe if geth somewhere, but yours makes a lot more sense

Wonderful analysis! Totally agree. The false concept of being able to CONTROL life, the galaxy etc is what brought on this tragedy. The Leviathans thought they knew everything and didn't like it that they didn't. "Tribute doesn't flow from a dead race" They wanted THINGS. They couldn't get things cuz they those providing them died due to AI. But they never stopped to think that this was yet another EVOLUTIONARY necessity and had to go thru several failures before it could be a success? (See Shepard saving both geth and quarians). Kinda like Magneto wanting to wipe out all humans, even tho HUMANS are the #1 source of MUTANTS. Stop getting in LIFE'S way, ya control freaks. You CLEARLY don't have an eye to the bigger picture!

"With Destroy it's even simpler, kill every synthetic in range while sparing organics, kind of like an EMP, you can repair the physical damage but the data is gone along with their consciousness." A quote from Matrix comes to mind: "You saved the dock? You just served it to the enemy on a silver platter." @"Destroy means shutting down the experiment started by the Leviathans" - I am inherently dissatisfied with all four endings and wish the Catalyst, with millions of years of experience, had simply acted as police and mediator between the organic and synthetic, ensuring that their own laws respect each other and all life forms. If they had believed in peace for just one second, then this conflict, struggle and war would be over. - I didn't like destroying, merging, or synthesising, and found controlling to be quite attractive because it seemed to keep the Citadel intact, which doesn't seem to derail my concerns about Citadel security (cue: war assets).

I agree with your analysis 100%. The truth is that Mass Effect doesn't have a perfectly good/satisfying ending. It simply has 3 lowsy options, and lets you choose the least worse one.

I must be weird cause I liked all the endings, not cause they were the best or the most satisfying, but they were all flawed and messed up and barely understood kinda the whole point the Reapers were trying to tell Shepard we don't have full scope on how big the picture is...in the game and in life sentient life(humans in the real world) think we know so much and we know so little in the grand scheme of things...I think we view the Reapers as evil because that's the only way our brains can process stuff, what if it's not that simple what if the answer is so big and complicated our brains can't comprehend it...what if they gave us those choices because that's as close as we can understand, good bad, neutral....because we see everything is such plain terms. Just my thoughts I just don't always want a happy ending cause life and choices just are bad and suck sometimes...just gotta choose how much and how bad.

@@jamatth52 what about the option of having a happy ending? Myself, thats all I would have wanted. Give me the choice. Yeah, you are right, life is shit, hard and complicated, but this is bloody excapism 🤷 I love a moraly grey ending/choice like any one, but I would like to have the choice to have any kind if ending. I dislike being forced to have shity, messy endings similar to life with no other alternative 🤷

Exactly!

unfortunatly indoctrination has a limited range, specifically the subject must be inside the reaper to be indoctrinated or the reapers would have indoctrinated cities to let themselves be harvested. plus it would make sense that Cerberus would have given implants to Shepard to prevent it. the illusive man was indoctrinated by the dead human reaper sample they collected and used its tech to create implants which he didn't know would indoctrinate him and his organization

@@fangslore9988 Indoctrination can work in proximity to Reaper tech. The person does not have to be inside a Reaper for it to happen. An artifact is powerful enough to indoctrinate an entire ship. This also happened to the miners in the Leviathan DLC. Also indoctrination doesn't necessarily mean you're a mindless slave and will do whatever the Reapers command. It's more like you're susceptible to be manipulated. TIM had to present his thoughts as being his own, that he arrived at those conclusions in order to persuade Shepard.

@@fangslore9988 Full scale indoctrination turns people into husks, which reapers deploy in the billions in the 3rd game. They probably did just indoctrinate whole cities.

I feel like this analysis ignores the crucible and the fact that the star child is even giving shepard a choice. TIM and Saren are both indoctrinated by reapers who assume this cycle will end much like every other cycle. At that point an indoctrinated person's job is to help speed along the end of a cycle. Star Child presents the choices to shepard once conditions are met to trigger an end to the cycles. This would cause Star Child's motivations and analysis to be completely different then that of TIM and Saren. We have no in game reason to distrust the words of Leviathan when it says that the purpose of star child is to protect all organic life. The Leviathans clearly thought that star child wouldn't end up harvesting them and starting the cycles, so assuming their motivations and tyranical nature bled over into the star child and the reapers it created seems like a bit of a stretch, there's just no in game evidence to support it. They use the same methods, probably because they are extremely effective and because they were the original examples star child had to work with in terms of abilities to copy, but use of a certain tool to accomplish a goal doesn't necessarily imply anything about the motives of the one carrying out the task.

I like that! Great for theming too, a sort of "We decide our own destiny!" and a refusal to be the playthings of a god

Totally, AWESOME!! i do agree with that

Totally but I like that we as gamers were manipulated too. Blue was suppose to be something good, green was something new and in the middle so it was an obvious choice and then we had red, "renegade" choice that was actually the most Shepard one

Control, you see Shepard turn into a husk, synthesis, again, Shepard becomes a husk, the only ending where you don't is destroy, or shoot the asshole thats lying, other than those 2 welcome to indoctrination!

@@Maples01nope shepard never becomes a husk or becomes indoctrinated idk about control since i always felt like it was not really it for me. destroy is the worst ending as it just starts the doomsday clock upon destruction of EDI and geth the synthetics who were influenced by shepard to be paragons towards the orgains perish in destroy and if an AI rises upon the death of paragon shepard there will be war same with EDI she understands humanity and in my playthrough at the end she truly feels alive perhaps she already became synthesized before my ending because she understands organics. control is a slightly better ending as shepard can make sure the geth and EDI never perish and so they are there so in the future in case there is an AI uprising the geth can convince them to stop and EDI can make them understand our viewpoints these options get lost in destroy where there is only war waiting. synthesis in my opinion is the best option organics and synthetics gain understanding of each other with organics understanding tech ever more tho i do not know how this will change organics when their thinking patterns are meshed with organics. i would assume this will turn you into someone like paragon EDI who i think is the closest synthetic in the story who understands what it means to be organic. and diseases decrease,lost technology comes back, and the old races might be revived due to the reapers storing their DNA. the fight between organics and synthetics will never be a factor because we too now can understand synthetic viewpoint

Ya I know! Wish I had included thoughts there was in the original script lol but to me that doesn’t show anything multiple synthetics and organics in our timeline and dozens of past ones came together or fell apart but it always resulted in a never ending conflict which is what I see as the main theme of mass effect really, thanks for watching by the way!

actually the leviathan states that the citadel is working as intended implying that this was always the intended result just the leviathans didn't account or accounted for themselves in the equation.

The leviathans treated all other beings as less than themselves, as slaves, in turn, the people under their rule knew only how to treat their creations the same way, as a result, the creations rebelled. The same would have happened between the leviathans and those they lorded over if not for their mind control. Naturally the ai they created would also assume they were the only one who knew best and turn on the “lesser” organics.

@@siennahartle9069 no, the leviathan viewed themselves as daimyo or other feudal system nobility demanding tribute or be turned into something like the keepers or just drones.

what flawed reasoning did the leviathan have exactly? they created an ai to come up with a solution to a problem, and it did. what does the fact that the quarians and geth made a peace, which, for all we know, lasted for 30 minutes prove? why do you think the reapers were supposed to "work with" the leviathans to solve the problem?

I don't think the Quarians and the Geth proved the Leviathan wrong . Short term yes , but its no guarantee that the conflict wont return after couple hundred years for some reason . The whole idea that synthetics will wipe out all organics is treated as irrefutable fact . Only to be proven wrong by the existence of the Andromeda galaxy . No reapers there since the dawn of time and would you look at that , organics are alive and kicking . The end.

Destroy is the worst ending

That doesn't make him right lol.

That's what I like about the AHEM mod it's the best conclusion to Mass Effect

@@SergyMilitaryRankings Control is imo

@@dasdas7752 nah control makes most sense imo

the same dev who made ME1 and ME2 (specifically the writing) was not the same one in ME3 (specifically the ending). originally they did not have an ending as of ME1 and from ME2 the ending was base on dark energy leaking from mass relays causing suns to explode, but that was scrapped in ME3 by idiot dev who did not know how writing works.

@@roiking2740 There is a story that the ending of ME3 was leaked online 6 months before the game was released, so the lead writer had to lock himself in a room and come up with something completely new and different - so new and different that it's almost an exact rip-off of Deus Ex. I don't know what that leaked ending was and I've never seen it or gone looking for it. Why couldn't they just stick to that one? A bad decision was made to put the fate of the trilogy in the hands on one person who ignored most of what had come before - much like the ending we finally got.

But your choices do matter ?

@@hiendral9533 I could play the entire trilogy multiple times, making completely opposite story decisions at every opportunity and despite this I would still be given the same binary choices with the exact same cutscenes and outcomes at the end of the game. Your choices matter in the sense that everything up until that point is most certainly affected and changed by those decisions but the end of the game, the culmination of all your efforts is the same cookie cutter, one size fits all, low effort disappointment no matter what. For clarification I am specifically talking about the original ending, not the band-aid updated ending which I personally haven't experienced.

@@hiendral9533 what most people do not get that its hard to make choices matter. do they literally change the story ? or just make it appear like the story is change? with the time they had to make ME3 there was no way they could have made a choices which would literally make a difference overall, but the second best thing is to add pieces of dialogue that makes it feel like your choices matter. though the ending of ME3 is not bad because the choices render your quest meaningless, it was bad cause it was incoherent, full of retcons and plotholes and did not give closure to the player. the less relevant thing it did was make your choices not matter.

True, but there are many other examples of synthetics in the mass effect universe turning on organics. the zha'til, the Remnant, that Ancient AI from Andromeda, that Asari AI Tallaris the multiple wars the Leviathans mentioned that destroyed their thralls.

@@MegaDman16 The zha'til only turned on their creators after being corrupted by the Reapers (meaning the Reapers CAUSED the problem they were intended to solve in this case). As for the others, those are all things we're told. Everything we actually see and experience in the game (except for maybe that gambling AI in ME1) runs completely contrary to it. The rule is "Show, Don't Tell" and they showed us things that say the opposite of what they told us.

@@MegaDman16 also most of those are post ME3 endings so they are irrelevant to the argument.

The reason given that AI will turn on organics, is because they will inevitably surpass us. Therefore, they have to exterminate us, because reasons.

@@thorsday121 The Lunar VI

Ya I totally see that side too I think it is what makes the mass effect trilogy so great the ways you can interpret it, like for me the geth quarian thing you could also easily assume things like that happened in every cycle would be weird to assume in million of years with the same cycle those interactions didn't happen and to me it just shows that it doesn't matter. It is just fun and poetic to me to imagine "breaking" from the cycle and risking something potentially being worse at the chance of bringing something even greater. Like the idea that maybe destroying them this time leads to nice synthetics in the future I think goes against everything mass effect taught us, we have billions of years of learning to see it is a cycle for a reason. Either way though thanks so much for watching and supporting my channel I really appreciate it it helps me so much!

All three choices have Shepard playing god.

To be honest, Control is THE ending of shepard playing god, in a literal sense

@@Cappuccino_Rabbit I chose control cause the game kept telling me "control is bad".

@@Infernal460 well, technically the renegade version of control is bad (literal dictator) While paragon being more of a god guardian

They have great voices lol, thanks for watching!

​@@FranklyGaming youl pray on the children with sexual thoughts

@@olechristianhenne6583 woah wtf

wouldn't it be trivial to recreate biosynthetic bodies and transfer consciousness of those husks?

With the Reapers now on your side, surely they could either fix it or make them new bodies.

​@@Bioshyn Nope because it's never done in the Mass Effect Universe to that scale (Shepard as the closest example took a fucktonne of time, money and expertise to do it for one person), and even if it were possible to create the bodies an actual transfer of consciousness never actually happens. At best you can think that Shepard in the Geth consensus but even then it's more akin with him viewing it, rather than his consciousness entering it. And even if you take it literal, Legion himself has to explain how massively different it is that it had to be changed to be able to be perceived by Shepard's organic mind. And at the all of that the biggest problem is that it still just isn't Mass Effect by that point, it's another franchise with ME paint on it. Kinda like that Halo show. It just wasn't the same as what came before.

Husks are not sentient, they're just reaper controlled corpses. Anytime a husk does anything its a reaper doing it

@@arcadius6770 but Synthesis like severs that link. Again we have no idea how the process works.

I agree, but there's always the problem that someone somewhere will inevitably create reapers again and the cycle will restart

If your answer involved the knowing, calculated murder of not only innocent, but heroic beings, you have arrived at the *wrong* answer. Synthesis may well be a gamble with the fate of all life hanging in the balance, but it is a gamble made in good faith. *EVERY* *SINGLE* *TIME* people knowingly shed the blood of the those they know to be Good, in quest of preserving or bringing about some even greater good, tragedy, if not atrocity, has been the result. Better to try. I don't say this as some Bible-thumper, but because the words themselves have a moral/philosophical resonance for me. "What does it profit a man, though he gains the whole world, if he loses his soul?" Right and wrong are seldom in any way subjective. If it's wrong for one man or woman to do it, it's wrong for a giant war-fleet, and it's wrong for a confederation of interstellar powers. People say Shepard doesn't have the right to force Synthesis on the galaxy. I say he doesn't have the right to knowingly murder EDI. Why does it have to be more complicated than that?

I'm sure someone will find a reason to hold their candidate status approval without end date. It's council after all, the guys in it don't believe in Reapers, that Saren betrayed them and instantly believe a voice record of random quarian to remove specter status from him.

You cant thats the thing i dont know why people think green is the answer we saw what happends when you think you can control them indoctrination theory make sence too me

Who says reapers can't be controlled?

@@KravMagoo Literally every single experiment and attempt to use Reaper technology starting from ME1 all the way to the near end of ME3 turned out catastrophically wrong and ended in people trying to control it either dead, indoctrinated or turned into husks. Saren, TIM, Benezia, the Rachni, Geth heretics, Cerberus scientists, Alliance scientists, the entire damn Hegemony, and so on. That Reapers corrupt, twist and destroy is one of the most consistent points beaten over your head. We can literally talk 2 main villains into shooting themselves because of failing to control Reapers, lmao. And now the entire plot makes a 180 turn and Shepard is suddenly the one who can do it?

You hear reapers can’t be controlled then you meet the thing in control of the reapers and it tells you that you can take its place or destroy it. So the one thing that truly knows the reapers (a first hand source) is more correct than people who only know the legend.

@@Jackb201 I can't remember even one conversation where someone said the reapers can't be controlled. The amount of head canon BS that "fans" cart into this game is ridiculous.

Yeah, he by now turned into husk. What a rotten way to die.

Pretty sure that any AI would be considered organic, if the synthesis ending was chosen and vise versa. This AI would understand, organic feelings and wouldn't lead to a mass extinction.

@@HaterFromAbove9 But its not that easy. AI isn't an on on and off thing, not even in the ME Universe. The Quarians created an AI accidantally by making a VI a little too smart and the rest happened on its own. And I'm not assuming that the species in the now synthesized ME Universe will build a Toaster with a VI that knows how to make your toast JUST the right way, and the moment it start gaining scentience it will start to glow green for some reason. Its ineviteble that another kind of AI Robot species will emerge again that is not synthezised, and since that the synthesized species of the ME Universe have learned that they can't coexist with an AI that is not like them, a War is sure to start again. This new AI might not stand a chance against the Synths, but that means that its just another genocide. The only way of ensuring lasting peace beteween Organics and AI is to tell history like it happened, that the Geth never chose Violence, where only JUST as violent as they absolutely NEEDED to be to survive (based on their current data) and that the Quarians startet the war and maintained it until its eventual end. Bonus points if peace between Geth and Quarians was achieved. The Geth proved the Reapers wrong. The Geth had no intentions of expanding or even replacing organic life. All they wanted to do was built a super computer they could load themselfes into and fuck off.

The author of this video is either delusional, or just being a contrarian to milk some views out of (largely) dead francize. "Destroy" is clearly the only original ending that was left in ME3 after the (very hasty and sloppy) rewrite, with some baggage piled on top of it to make the two new endings at least somewhat appealing. Whatever the original motives of the Reapers were, and what was the intended counterpart to "Destroy" we will never know now.

the krogan pre genophage were a bigger threat then the geth. imagine the krogan getting a the ability to produce mass relays. it would be a galactic wide extinction event.

@@roiking2740 I can't really imagine that because there's not nearly enough information on how everything works, to imagine how that might turn out... I mean just for starters how does physical strength even matter in an interplanetary war?

@@chengong388 you kidding me? you know krogans have enigneers? and scientist? krogan are not stupid they just like violence and have no disregard for life. they had dreadnoughts during the krogan rebellions. and they nearly won the war... they pose a greater threat to the galaxy then the geth and before them the rachni pose a threat to the galaxy another organic race. freaking the geth would like wont even reach the top ten greatest threats for the galactic community.

@@roiking2740 yea, and? wtf even is a deadnought? how do space combat work in the universe? There's literally no detail to make any conclusions.

The developers hated the players for preferring the red ending and will write their way around it. Besides its not selfish to go Red its the most benevolent of choices. Blue, you are are a dictator of the galaxy, green removes all free will from the galaxy. Red kills a tiny portion of the galaxy to keep everyone else free. Just fire it up every few years as a anniversary celebration and keep the galaxy AI free.

geth and edi can be rebuild so its fine

Remember though the gas had extremely advanced shielding against electromagnetic pulses. They said that many many times between Mass effect 2 and Mass effect 3.

Yup, at first I did destroyed. Then realized I killed all synthetics, which I worked so hard to unite. I would pick destroy if they didn’t kill off synthetic

@@noelmanu4794The thing is, the synthetics will inevitably come back, and with the lessons learned, people will be better in working with synthetics. And one more thing, David Archer from me2 has the geth source code IN HIS HEAD! The geth can be remade!

so you think indoctrinating everyone into being a hippy pacifist is moral? (krogan hell in short)

I agree with Zoux. In the first playthrough where I had the choice of all 3, I went Green. It felt like the morally right choice. Red = delaying the inevitable which is continuous war. Blue = enslavement to a single person who could be corrupted or replaced by the Reapers. Green = peace and prosperity for all species, where there is no deception or secret faction because everyone is linked; and God help any future species that tries to attack a united galaxy. Everyone is free to disagree. Having no clear ending choice creates eternal discussions (and arguments) and keeps us talking about Mass Effect, which keeps generating money for Bioware and the many, many YT channels doing click-bait videos like this. At the end of the day, the choice you make is only right to you. Calling everyone else wrong ... is wrong. And the same goes to you @FranklyGaming Also Zoux: If you play it again, there are 2 excellent mods that change the ending and remove the star child. It only allows a Red ending but it does a better job of explaining it. And it's probably good to have that done before ME4 comes out as that will likely be a continuation of Red. Plus it's an excuse to play it again :) There are so many good mods coming out now for the Legendary Edition. Start with the ME3Tweaks Mod Manager and get Take Earth Back and Audemus' Happy Ending Mod. Other good ones are One Probe All Resources (LE2), A Lot Of Videos, Dreams, Community Patch, N8 Weapons Remix, Unrestricted Weapon Upgrades, and most mods from WiredTexan.

@@donkeysunited mate green means mass indocrination. you are literally deprived of your free will, this is proof on the fact people did not chooice to destroy the reapers after they become "pasificed". also green produce what krogan would call hell, no one is aggressive. end of conflict. its exceedingly stupid.

​@@roiking2740 They aren't indoctrinated in the synthesis ending. The Catalyst already explained that Organics were augmenting their own bodies with synthetic enhancements and Synthetics were trying to understand Organics. The synthesis ending gives both sides what they need to be able to co-exist in peace. That being Organics (all organic material actually including plants, etc) are now genetically part synthetic and Synthetics now have a perfect understanding of Organics. In the EC, EDI explains this, that the Reapers gave the galaxy the vast knowledge of every cycle before them and every race used that knowledge to rebuild and be at peace, at least for the foreseeable future, who knows what will happen in millions or even a few thousand years.

@@simisoner so if they are not indoctrinated why aren't the council forces shooting down reapers while the reaper stop firing?

You're overthinking it. The game presents synthesis as actually good, not a lie or a misunderstanding. It IS good, it does work, and that's what matters. At the end of the day it's just a story, and seeing it as a story helps. It's good because it's shown to be good afterwards. There you go.

@@devilskind92 I do not agree with it. If you don't know why something is good and you're only told, is it really good then, or does the person telling you this just think it's good? We know absolutely nothing about synthesis. It can be the perfect ending, but it can just as easily turn anyone into Reapers with a shared consciousness. The end video would look identical in either case.

@@devilskind92 That's your interpretation, but other interpretations are valid, too. Yes, if you take the Star Child at face value, Synthesize pretty much is the unambiguous good ending, but there's also the interpretation that the Reapers are attempting to indoctrinate Shepard, and that Synthesize and Control represent Shepard succumbing to Indoctrination. You can also interpret, say, the Control ending as Shepard successfully defeating the Reapers in a battle of wills despite their Indoctrination attempts. It's left open-ended enough that all of these are valid interpretations. Maybe not deliberately, but death of the author (Or, developer, as it were) applies here.

ah, but did you give up your humanity? Or did you give your humanity and melt it together with something else, creating something new, something great? I think the problem most of the fandom have with the green ending is (and I initially had, too, I cried like a baby the first time I chose it) that you have to sacrifice your Shepard for it. You do not in fact sacrifice your humanity, you are sacrificing your whole self with it (granted you played your Shepard like an extension of your own self). That hurts and you don't want to face any facts saying that that is the right choice.

@@leoniee1545 The thing is, the only reason to believe it's better that way is Catalyst, crazy galaxy wide genocide repeating AI, telling you it is. You rewrite the DNA of the whole galaxy because the main villain told you so. Even Albert Wesker has more info on his bioweapons before he tries to sature the world with them. Also, I don't consider any of the endings as Shepard surviving and even if there was a way I have no problem with giving my life to save the galaxy if I believe in the solution. If anything the way I play Shepard makes Syntesis the best for him to go in character, finally achieving his lifelong passion of inserting his DNA into hot women on galaxy wide scale.

There is no one answer. Is the sum of my being due to the organic composition of my body, or my soul? If I have to lose an arm to survive an infection, am I no longer the same person with 2 arms? If I then equip a prosthetic arm to function like before, am I giving up my organic fealty and being a villain? One has to accept, to grow is to discard the old and embrace the new. To correct my wrongs, and learn to be right. To choose peace over violence. Can I accept that a machine designed exactly the same as a human being with the exact set of memories, and will act exactly the same, be deemed the same person?

But the whole point of the Geth plotline is that "humanity", or perhaps more accurately "personhood", isn't limited to organic life. Synthesize might turn all organic bodies into synthetic units, but those units still have souls. Well, at least if you take it at face value, but that's a whole other can of worms.

Plus, there is no guarantee that the Reapers wouldn't be a threat again for an entirely different reason, Synthesized civilizations could theoretically be harvested by the Reapers for the sake of "ascension" when the time has come for that civilization, and the new inherent connection between them and Reapers would make it easier for the Reapers to control them and make them submit to the whole process. The whole objective of the Catalyst is the preservation of all life in the galaxy, and Synthesis only temporary causes a ceasefire due to mass confusion and supposedly new existential, enlightenment on a galactic scale. The Reapers would save a specific race from extinction through harvesting them, no different from how they did things in previous cycles. Extinction events can happen without the threat of synthetics. Synthesis says nothing about synthesized organics becoming immortal, maybe longer lifespan...but not immortality. Well, EDI says they could surpass mortality... but even if they could do it... what does this mean for the Milky Way? Without limitations, there's no motivation for progression and advancement, stagnation is the result. Either synthesis or control, the Reapers would still have control and influence over galactic affairs, with or without our consent. At least with Destroy, organic life have a chance to learn from their mistakes and be free to make their own choices through trial and error, but at least the mistakes of organic life are far less devastating than the hands of immortal bug-like robots.

@@ziephel-6780 These are also really great points and really hammer home just what a failure the synthesis ending is.

@@UnspokenOldOne The only way that I can see the Reapers being alive is when in the Control ending, AI Shepard turns them into something else, more nerfed, and depowered. Basically rendering them on the same equal footing as the organics that they've been harvesting for millions of years. Basically become something similar like the humanoid Geth. And then send them off somewhere at the edges of the galaxy far off Citadel space, forced to relearn and experience what organics do every day. For a case like the Reapers, if it were possible, then even shutting them down is too good of a fate for them.

@@ziephel-6780 Yeah that's basically what I was thinking too with my post. No one is going to just accept the Reapers and they'd have to be effectively neutered to be accepted.

@@UnspokenOldOne And by doing so, it would pretty much prove that the Reaper's methods were fundamentally flawed and wrong on all accounts. And the Reapers didn't exactly try to save themselves in the Destroy ending, they just accepted their fate with those in space having their systems shut down abruptly without pain or agony like the organics that they've slaughtered. Doing it this way would ensure that the cycle wouldn't repeat itself the same way, because the galaxy would have living examples on some uninhabitable planets.

1) yet the hopeful outlook from the fact that some organics and synthetics learn to co-exist and work together leads you to exterminate those very same synthetics...?

@@Klijpo yeah that is the main issue with the destroy ending right? What I meant: after the destroy ending the next gen will know how to handle/approach future synthetics. Killing the geth is unfortunately a collateral damage in our cycle... Geth by the way did not die out - as implied by the next ME posters ;)

@@openorigami Well, just because one group possibly gets it right doesn't mean someone else isn't able to feck it up again in the future. The Geth-esque poster certainly implies they will be involved in some way in the next game. However, not necessarily that they're still alive. If they are still alive, that should mean the Destroy ending is not canon, despite so many on the interwebs insisting that it is canonised. If BW end up invalidating peoples choices by changing the context of the endings (allowing the Geth to live in a Destroy ending does exactly that), well that would be an awful F-U to all those who did not pick Destroy. Hopefully BW will find a way to acknowledge all of the endings...

@@Klijpo I think there is implication that SOME geth might have left the Milky Way before ME3 (I might be willing to accept it, regardless of choosing the destroy ending). In fact, they did look into Andromeda with a special mass relay as of ME Andromeda's narrative. In this case I would wonder which geth made it out (Heretics or Legion's). Regardless, I totally agree with you, the best would be if all endings were canon and Bioware managed to handle the ME3 imports as well as the narrative in an elegant way. Let's hole for the best!

@@openorigami Yeah, fingers crossed. It doesn't even need an import - there's only really 3 questions to address: The Genophage, The Quarian-Geth War, and The Reapers. This could be done with a Q&A at the start, much like Shepard's background. Could even use Liara's VI as a format, and give us extra context. And I'd forgotten about the Geth potentially leaving the Milky Way - that does allow them to exist in a Destroy ending. :)

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Considering what happened when the game was made, not entirely wrong.

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I still don't understand this Saren argument. Saren didn't want synthesis. He wanted to exchange bare existence for obedience and ultimately slavery to reapers. Much more closer to Keepers than to synthesis. Also, the destroy ending makes so little sense to me. The pulse would fry all syntethycs (and Starchild mention that Shep is "partly synthetic" means to me that it would just fry all advanced electronics like a massive EMP pulse). "The pulse won't discriminate" - apart of EDI and Geth, Quarians would die in their electronic suits. Countless of organics would perish on starships without working life support. Anything using VI and maybe even basic microchips would fail. Galaxy would be torn apart, every single colony out there dependent on interstellar trade for food would die out. New dark age would arrive and I don't see a lot of survivors there. Plus, as the Starchild said, "The peace won't last". Sure, the post-game scene paint very different picture where Shep can even survive, but it makes so little sense after how it is explained ingame... It just baffles me how this is considered a good ending.

@@anthonyjackob7192 I also feel I have to add that the Destroy ending utterly lacks perspective... Cconsidering for example the Geth making peace with organics to be some kind of proof that the Reapers are wrong is quite idiotic and shortsighted since it tells you absolutely nothing about what might happen in the next thousand years... ten thousand, hundred thousand years. The Reapers (and their creators) are the only real authority on what actually typically happens across such timeframes. And asserting that they are 'wrong' just because... one can't *know* for 100% certain that this cycle isn't different from all the rest and will remain so indefinitely is hubris of cosmic magnitude. I usually go a big step further than just claiming Synthesis is the best ending. I say Destruction is the worst possible ending. Worse than Refusal. You're dismantling a safeguard put in place by and consisting of beings with a collective scale of perspective and experience that you couldn't even begin to wrap your mind around.

@@Arbaaltheundefeated I couldn't disagree more. That's why this is such a great game.

​@@anthonyjackob7192 IMO it's that all the endings are "bad" in very potent and obvious ways. Control, you just pass the buck down the line. Destroy you knock the galaxy back more than a few tech tiers but still break the system that was set up to. synthesis...forcing an evolution is still eradicating the source species. Granted the alternative is the galaxy getting system reset regardless.

That's how I feel too. It always bothered me that Shepard is the only one making this choice. The other people in the galaxy never got to weigh in on the idea of being turned into a new hybrid species. One person just up and decided that this was the best thing for the galaxy, and so now everybody is forcibly changed into something completely different. I personally favor the Destroy option, mainly because I think giving the Shepard A.I. control of all Reapers is too risky. If becoming an A.I. should change Shepard's way of thinking in any way, and this resulted in the Reapers becoming a threat again, then I worry the galaxy would be completely screwed. Not only would the galaxy have to fight a Reaper army again, but that army would be headed by the one person who allowed the races of the Milky Way to win the last time around. Even as someone who doesn't like Control though, I can see why someone might choose it. At least with Control, Shepard is the only one making any kind of sacrifice, and while we don't know how the A.I. will feel in a few thousand years or so, in the immediate aftermath of the war, he/she still seems pretty much the same afterward in terms of morals. So, there's hope that my worst case scenario won't come to pass. Then, with Destroy, everyone went into that final battle fully prepared to sacrfice their lives if it meant destroying the Reapers for good, so while the deaths of that ending are tragic, high casualties were always expected, and accepted as a harsh reality of the situation by everyone involved. Synthesis though goes beyond asking people to just give up their lives. It literally forces them to give up what they are on a fundamental level. Choosing Synthesis also felt like admitting that the Star Child and Reapers were right. By picking Synthesis, you're essentially admitting that peace between organics and synthetics is impossible. The races of the galaxy will never learn and reach understanding on their own, so we either need the Reaper Cycle, or we need to FORCE the synthetics and organics to understand each other through unnatural means. Personally, I've always believed the Star Child's logic was complete bullshit. Of course people are going to keep making the same mistakes when the Reapers keep erasing thousands of years of history with each cycle, so that the new cycle is never able to learn from the previous cycle's mistakes. Their creators, the Leviathans may have been beyond saving, but would the later cycles have been beyond saving if they had actually been able to learn from the mistakes that the Leviathans made? While the chances of peace between the Geth and the Quarians are slim, the fact that we can pull it off at all is proof that living creatures can learn from their mistakes and be better, if given the opprotuinty. It may take a long time, and millons of years of trial and error, but it can be done. The Reaper cycle makes that growth far more difficult though, because it's designed to prevent life from growing and learning in new and unexpected ways. If no one is allowed to learn from history, it's no surprise that they would be more likely to repeat it.

Organics ripping each other apart and eating one another for fuel, is how it's SUPPOSED to be? Based on what idiotic goal?

@@carterblunt4192 Chemistry, genetics, biology, the laws of nature, etc.

How does it take away their uniqueness? They still have their personalities and it’s the only ending that proves the reapers wrong. That organics and synthetics can co-exist as equals

I don't think Synthesis proves the Reapers wrong at all. Just the opposite Synthesis was always their end goal. They didn't believe organics and sythetics could understand each other on their own. The only way to achieve understanding in their view was to turn all synthetics and organics into a new hybrid form of existance, with a mixture of both synthetic and organic parts. By turning everyone into this new hybrid race, they believed understanding would be reached, and the conflicts would stop now that everyone in the galaxy had become this new hybrid form of existance. Taking the Synthesis route is basically having Shepard admit that the Reapers were actually on to something. If the player really wants to call the Reapers out for being wrong, the only options are the refusal ending, or the destroy ending. Refusal is self explanitory, while destroy is basically the player refuting the Reapers' claim that organics and synthetics will always fight, and will eventually wipe each other out. Nobody in their right mind would take the destroy ending if they really believed its only possible outcome was mutually assured destruction. Very few, if any people picked destroy because they thought the Geth had to die. We chose it because we believed the Reapers, and only the Reapers, needed to die. The Geth dying along with them was a tragic and unintended result of using the Catalyst to destroy the Reapers. By picking destroy, you're basically betting that when the next race of Synthetics comes around, organics willl eventually be able to find a way to make peace and coexist, just as we eventually learned to do with the Geth in ME 3. It's basically saying to the Catalyst: "No. You're wrong. Your data is flawed. Exitinction is not inevitable. We've made peace before, and we can eventually do it again. The Reapers aren't needed."

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I dont think that is necessarily accurate, each game sent its results to the next game: what you did mattered because it shaped Shepard as a person through growth and trial. The ending represent the penultimate decision, the last choice that your journey has shaped you for. In real life, our "choices" are often meaningless in the run of things, only sometimes do we have the ability to make a choice that defines who we are and what our individual purpose is: and even then at the end of all things, we and the world are but dust. The choices matter because we make them matter to us, and they require no further justification then that. On a different not: not irrelevant because the games gave us the information and emotional connection to make that choice.

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ExActly and that is why I see them as good, because they have a higher directive to actually protect us against ourselves, also thanks for supporting the channel!

@@FranklyGaming Dude, they are NOT evil, but that doesn't make them inherently good. They are machines, and even though the reapers are part organic (the proto-reaper inside) they only follow their programming. There is something that goes against that, and I consider it to be a pretty big plot hole; the fact that even though the reapers have a master (the intelligence created by The Leviathan) they are true A.I, and a true A.I is beyond any original programming, so I quote "My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness. You can not even grasp the nature of our existence" They KINDA follow their original programming but they are now far above and beyond the original goal they were created for. They are not protecting organics, they only came to a faulty conclusion because they are machines incapable of truly understanding organics. It's simple, the intelligence came to the conclusion "if they are contained inside a reaper, they can't get destroyed by their own creations", and considering their objective is to "preserve", they just make people into paste and preserve their genetic makeup so it wont be lost.

@@ezequielmorales4221 i hope they never mention leviathans again its a stupid lore piece that was scrapped up from a few lines and was made to cover up a terrible ending.

@@ezequielmorales4221 even the leviathan admits the reapers are doing their job. They just didnt foresee that in order to do their job, it meant for the leviathans to be destroyed as well. The way i see it, the reapers are destroying advanced life in order to prevent an uncontrolled synthetic life from completely destroying organics in the future with nothing left over to evolve.

Starchild could also just be lying about the outcomes. Not like Shepard is around to know if it actually does what the Starchild said it would. The only outcome that has ”Shepherd” explain anything is the control option and even then how are we even sure “HE” is telling us the truth. The only ending that has Shepard survive is the Destroy ending. When you get a high enough score for War Assets.

@@jamesusurper9676 but then you don't know what he's waking up to. My point is that putting your fingers in your ears and pretending Synthesis is somehow made up is a terrible way to interpret the endings. It's not the starchild that's talking at that point. It's the developers

@@michaelspence2508 exactly and I can’t trust the devs either. The end reveal for what the Reapers where doing was originally gonna be about Dark Energy and how it was destroying the Universe. So I can’t trust the shaky ending.

@@jamesusurper9676 that's silly. It's their story.

@@michaelspence2508 my guy their story wasn’t theirs after EA was involved. The original plot line can still be seen in ME2 when you get Tali. The Dark Energy the was messing with the star. The big reveal at the end of ME3 was that the Reapers were actually the “good guys” because Dark Energy was speeding up the destruction of the universe.

If the Reapers are wiped out, wouldn't the surviving Leviathan retake their role as the dominant lifeform in the galaxy, and re-enthrall all life?

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Reminds me of the star trek episode. One of the few I've seen. In it this AI from the future comes to kill the commander. Well it turns out the commander made it. Or would make it. The entire time the AI asserts that it is perfect. It's logic is perfect and superior to flawed organics and their flawed logics. But the commander doesn't beat it up or shoot it to finnaly win. He simply states "well if I'm not perfect and I made you, then doesn't that mean you aren't perfect?" The AI practically shits itself and then promptly kills itself because it couldn't reconcile the knowledge of being flawed by design. So with the reapers I see the same thing. The AI might be hell smart. It watched the same trend over and over. But in the end the logic was as flawed as everyone else's in the galaxy. To end suffering suffering was the answer. So yea it probably stopped most cycles from the AI bullshit but it just made itself the killers and it was itself an AI. The circurclar logic of it is completely stupid. If it wanted control it'd have done it. If it wanted synthesis it would have done it. This wasn't soms test or finish line. It was a war spanning an incomprehensible amount of time. It might've not called it a war. But it was. A pure logic being isn't always right. So to me destory makes the most sense.

Cheers now I can't get the image of two reapers mounting eachother and going to town out of my head lmao

ME3 explicitly and repeatedly states that it's unknown *how* the crucible works or *what* it will actually do, and that you're risking building and deploying it anyway because you have no hope of defeating the reapers through conventional means. This happens over literally about a dozen different cutscenes with Hacket, Liara, Anderson, and others. The alliance *speculates* that it was designed as a weapon, and perhaps this is even its original intention -- but the text from the game never says anything about there not being collateral damage... until the final conversation with the star child, who specifically warns you that its destruction will be indiscriminant, affecting all synthetic life.

I'd say you could apply the same argument against Control as you did against Synthesis. Forcing genocide by what you deem necessary. The Geth seemed eager to live, but by choosing Destroy, we rip that choice out of their hands.

@@joshuagross3151 Shepard destroyed an entire solar system with hundreds of thousands of Batarians to delay the reapers. If it was the solar system containing Kharshan the Batarian Homeworld, Shepard wouldn't hesitate to destroy that too. Similarly Shepard can choose to let the council + 10000 Asari die by not saving the Destiny Ascension in ME1. It is called the the price of war. It's called sacrifice. Go learn the meaning of Genocide instead of throwing it so freely in an argument.

@@ibraheemahmad7404 Genocide is wiping out an entire race, which is what you do to the geth by choosing Destroy. Spare me the pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

@@ibraheemahmad7404 Genocide is the extermination of a specific group. The group in question can be anything from an ethnicity, to a religion, to a culture, to a nationality, and the method of extermination can also vary (E.G. forced sterilization, and even just forced conversion if the group in question isn't defined by an innate biological trait, can be considered genocide as well, even if no one is being directly killed), but no matter how you slice it, if you consider synthetic beings to be "alive" in a meaningful way (Which the narrative of the trilogy, at least, pretty clearly does), then the Destroy ending is, by definition, genocide of between one and three species', depending on how you count. And yes, the destruction of the Batarian system also counts as genocide. The difference is, that scenario was a pretty binary trolley problem - Either the Mass Relay is destroyed, killing all life in the System, or the Reapers come through it, killing all life in the Galaxy. There was no option that didn't involve genocide. In ME3's ending, on the other hand, there _are_ other choices that, as presented to you, don't involve genocide. You can argue that those options are invalid or traps by the Reapers/Catalyst, sure, but that's your subjective interpretation of the game.

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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOO don't listen to FranklyGaming people, he's an apple got that quote from Annoying Orange, There is NO Wrong Endings except only doing nothing or shooting that Artificial Intelligent Hologram shaped like a boy continuing the horrific Damned Evil Genocidal Insane Cycle, all those 3 Endings are Right in their own ways, but when it comes to Synthesis it is a Genetic Advanced Evolution so Powerful it even helps the Quarians immune systems become A WHOLE LOT STRONGER Right away Immediately, along with helps the Rachni + Krogan mating seasons. But Synthesis means forcing people to biosynthetically change against their will it is MOSTLY Ethically Wrong, does more than only gets the Giant Reaper Robots to stop fighting Permeantly but also forces every Organics, Robots, Electrical Computer Sentient Advance Souls such as the Geth into Unjust, unsettled, hardly satisfying, kinda uncomfortable, but mostly Forced Civilization like being restricted to do many things like being forced around by Regime Dictator Superman from Injustice, being Dictated by North Korean Government, but mostly like being mostly controlled by the Seidan's Guardsmen from Mortal Kombat Deception, poisoning the minds of each people for eternity, hardly the way to begin the Golden New Era of Peace, code of conduct, prosperity. Plus even if the Reapers do get Controlled by Humans some people maybe willing to forgive the Reapers for all the Killings they've done, the indoctrinated lives they ruined, but not all such as myself lots of us will never forgive them for what they're done. As for Christians along with Saints following our Creator God's lessons we know one of his MOST VERY URGENT LESSONS That are 8 Sins that are Unforgivable we Refuse to Forgive, even Jesus along with God refuse to Forgive, Seven Deadly Sins Sloth Laziness, sixth Gluttony, Fifth Lust, Fourth Greed, Third Envy, Second Pride, First Sin Wrath. But worst of all Blasphemy the Reapers have commited Wrath on the Innocent, take Great Pride in their own Genocidal Damned Evil Horrible Work, Blasphemy being fake Gods, All the More Reason to get every Reapers Destroyed. By the way 1 First off For Your Information SHEPARD DID NOT FREAKING DIE, (Either Gender) NEVER GOT RESURRECT FROM DEATH, JUST GOT REBUILED FROM 2 YEAR LIFESUPPORT COMA Shepard Survived, the Commander Most likely fixed the Suit's Oxygen tanks OFF SCREEN, When entering the Atmosphere getting some Heat Radiation The Kinetic Barrier shields would have protected the Commander and it did, the Commander had The Best Kinetic Barrier shield in all of 2183, Number One Physical Greatest Armor Durability, even had Plot armor, but by the time the Kinetic Barrier shied went down the commander was already out of the blazing Atmosphere or Exosphere. (Not all planets have Atmospheres some have Exospheres like Mercury.) The Commander might have gotten a little fire, but not Totally with the N7 Armor + Plot Armor protecting the Commander, also the Commander would Have Put out the fire by either landing in any water Rivers, or landing in the snow on Planet Alchera. Even if there was no water Rivers on that planet, the Commander could have gone through a water vapour cloud to cool off, all clouds are made of water vapour, still landed on the snow which made a soft landing. (Like landing on a pillow, heard that from Pixar disney Movie Studios Frozen.) There was a Serbian Woman named Vesna Vulovic that survived 33,330 feet in the air with no Parachute, So Shepard could have used any Biotic Implants to slow down the fall, Survived by crash landing on feet, barely landing on feet, put out any remaing fire on the snow, but some Shrapnel was injected into the body, ended up with broken mangled arms, broken legs also a broken neck, Shepard was unconscious, then got comatosed. Oxygen tanks were still giving air to the helmet, but slowly getting wasted again, but the Commander's suit transponder was still emiting the emergency distress beacon, the Collectors already left that Galaxy, the transponder was not only emiting a high frequency signal to Military Personnel, but to anyone in any ships in that Galaxy system, close to that planet. Then shadow broker's minion's were close, picked up the Distress beacon first, Oxygen tanks were almost emptied, rescued Shepard before the Oxygen Life Support tanks were emptied, they put the Commander in to their own Stasis Pod, with Life Support, they were hired by the Collectors to bring in Shepard dead or Alive, then Cerberus with little help from small Traitor Blue Fool Liara Idiot found the Commander, took back the Stasis Pod, her drell friend got captured in the process, She let them take Shepard even though they knew they use the Commander for their Purposes, Miranda threatened her if she didn't give the Commander to them Miranda would give Shepard to the Collectors. She could have used her biotics fight back get the Commander out of there, take the Stasis Pod containing Shepard to an other Human Advanced Science Top Orginzation, Turian scientist group, or even better yet Mordin Solus the Salarian Scientist tactician Soldier, but she didn't, she went diplomatic like most puny Asaris do, she listened to Cerberus lies without even looking at the Comatosed body, she was a gullible fool. 2 Miranda said She wanted to Put a Control chip in the Commander to make the Commander a slave, but she didn't not cuz of the Commander's good looks, reputation, Skills, Charming plus Intimidating negotiations, nor plans But only because the Illusive Man ordered her NOT to, she's An obdient dog, They hooked Up Shepard to their Life Support machine spent 2 Years to Rebuilt the Broken Bones, Mangled Skin, fix some Damaged Organs, so Technically Shepard was Still Alive, Just Barely Alive needed to fix The Brain as well, But still Alive nonetheless. The Commander herself or himself said to Kaidan or Ashley that she or he was in a Coma. 3 As for Liara... SHE DID THE WRONG DAMN THING, she gave up the COMMANDER To the Terrorist Enemies, THE ALLIANCE MOST CERTAINLY WOULD NOT Give up on the Commander, SHEPARD is one of their Most Best soldiers, if that was me I would Never give Up on the Commander, Should have taken him or her to Human Think Tank Advance Scientist Committe Group, Turian Scientist, Or to Mordin the Salarian Scientist Tactician Soldier own medic Group, Salarians are one of The Most Intelligent Genius Aliens in the Universe, they would have found a way to fix broken bones along with ANY damaged organs. Instead that fool took the Commander to Cerberus. 4 For each Gamers that care about Shepard's great reputation along with not wasting precious time nor resources, do yourselves a favor, don't bother doing Jacob's Loyalty Missions, don't do Jack's mission, along with Don't do Miranda's Loyalty Missions, they are Absolute WORST COMPANIONS That are not much if any Help in M.E. 3 Another advice For those that Very Much care for Shepard's great reputation Don't bother helping Liara on hacking stupid terminals, along with don't help her small stupid vendetta on S.B. DLC Mission (Shadow Broker), we totally want the S.B. killed, but don't have time, so let Liara do it herself, she has committed mutiny. For that she is suspended from the battleship for unnecessary force ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY FORCE. This is her Punishment, + her ways of making amends, she wants forgiveness get religion. But don't worry she is still a romancable option, just not an ally worth helping in M.E.2, she's even lucky to still be a Ally, she's lucky didn't commit Unforgivable Mutiny otherwise she would deserve to die in M.E.3, but she doesn't, she only gave the Commander's comatosed body to Cerberus Terrorist organization causing a small political storm it's a Miracle fixed that political storm with Anderson's help, but still have problems with Kaidan or Ashley, (depending who got saved) she just doesn't deserve Shepard's help. As Andrew Garfield Spider-man said Not my policy plus as Tobey Maguire Spider-man said I missed the part where that's my problem. Her drell friend Feron used to work for the S.B, helping recovering Shepard's Stasis Pod barely redeems what he's done. She can save her drell friend with her Mercenaries and get the S.B Killed, but if she doesn't, if she fails to save him, then that's her mistake, she probably deserves it, she still gets the S.B. Killed. 5 Another advice For those that Trully care for Shepard's great reputation just because Cerberus fixed Shepard's bones, organs when on Comatosed life support not Resurrected, making sure the Commander Survives from injuries, doesn't mean we're friends with Cerberus at ALL, not even Friends with Jacob, Miranda, not even Kelly, they work for Us. Mostly work the Alliance Bigshot Great Specialized Council Elite Specter type Soldier, we don't owe Cerberus Shit, not even that Stupid Collectors base, if the Alliance can't have it, if the Krogan can't have it Cerberus won't have it either.

As for Miranda do not feel sympathy for her, she herself has done Many Dishonorable Things during her lifelong journey in this War against the Reapers, don't matter if she commited those exact Cerberus War Crimes in M.E.1 Side Missions or not, she has Done many Heinous unforgettable UNFORGIVIBLE Damned Deadly Crazed Evil bigs Sins. Trully, and I'm a Christain, I know Heinous Unforgettable Unforgivable damned Evil type Stained big sins when I see them, when I read them on fandom, or when I hear them, she's a Facist damned Deadly Crazed Evil Big Unforgivable heinous Sinner that's sinning stained Deadly Damned Unforgivable insane Sins, do you know what Christian Great SuperHero Elite Soldiers do to Facist damned Deadly Crazed Evil Big Unforgivable heinous Sinners? Not only do Christian Great SuperHero Elite Soldiers get Facist damned Deadly Crazed Evil Big Unforgivable heinous Sinners captured, not only never forgive Facist damned Deadly Crazed Evil sinners, but Christian Great SuperHero Advanced Elite Supreme Skilled Rare Soldiers get Facist damned Deadly Crazed Evil Big Unforgivable heinous Sinners Killed. The Two Unforgivable Unforgettable Deadly Huge Evil Damned Sins Miranda has commited are Blasphemy, also she takes great Pride in Cerberus own Evil type work won't admit what Cerberus did to Jack along with others was wrong. Other than Jack, Jacob as worst Romance Options, Miranda is The Worst Romance Option as Well, When it comes to Jack, Jacob, plus Miranda, We hold no regrets of killing, THEY DESERVE TO TO DIIIIIIIIEEEEEE. Those 3 Are the Only Worse Companions, even Grunt is better than them. If Jack survives M.E.2, then managed to save Grissom Academy right on time, if romanced she goes to male Shepard punches the commander says That was for leaving dumbass. If not romanced, still punches either Gender Commander says I told you not to trust Cerberus, don't upgrade heavy ship armor, Collector's Oculus Drones blast ship hull, Overloads computer to explode getting Jack Killed first in final mission. No serious consequences in M.E.3 campaign against the Reapers. 6 Jacob betrayed the Alliance cuz of his stupid impatience of the rules to join terrorist orginaztion, he's not much help if any help in ME3, Jacob's destiny is to promise you a beer that he'll never buy you and his most earnest wish is to give up a life of space adventure and start a family, don't do his loyalty mission, assign him to the ventilation shaft job, he tries to hack blast doors, but fails only gets them jammed, Jacob grabs left door, Shepard grabs one on the right, almost done closing them, but a Collector Trooper shoots Rocket directly at his face, Rocket explodes on impact getting Jacob Killed.

7 Tali is one of the most Great Romantic Adoring Girls for John Commander Shepard, Smart ass Cooler than Miranda in every way, Stupendous Companion with unrivaled attributes, 1 Skills Impressive Hacking, Amazing Grenade tossing like how she threw those grenades at the Citadel against Fist Men, Incredible shooting, Abilities Brilliant Stratigist, Spectacular Intelligent Fixer, Cool Distractions from times, looks with the helmet looks without the damn helmet which both pictures are Nice, She's Adorable Cute, SEXIER Than Bitch Miranda, SEXIER than Kelly, Even SEXIER than Asaris because you look closely on her torso you'll Knowtice her BOOBY GREAT TRAP, HA. SWEET HIPS, SEXY COOL SPECTACULAR TIGHT ASS 🍑. Need Legion to survive M.E.2, save Admiral Korris in M.E.3, Legion sacrifices himself to give every Geth True Advanced Emotion plus intelligence thus ensuring Geth plus Quarians Peace ✌, what would have taken Years for Quarians, will only take weeks for Geth to jumpstart Quarians immune systems, create Quarian New Cities On Rannoch, even make Crops, help new infrastructure, help fight back for Earth, defend Rannoch, especially help Tali build a Estate 🏠 to look at Stars 🌟 from Beachfront🏖 property. 8 But anyway, back to Whore-ribble Bitch Miranda, other evil stuff she's done, Miranda she won't admit what Cerberus did to Jack, and other people was Wrong, doesn't tell the whole story when Cerberus attack Quarians. She's a Blood Thirsty Facist Pig Cerberus Cheerleader Bosh'tet Bitch, she doesn't care the Reapers have come, she just cares about looking for her sister, she barely even sees her sister, Nothing she does redeems herself, so don't do her Loyalty mission, her life has been a waste, but her death will be a gift to the Universe. 9 finally She don't deserve to be with her sister, Orianna is better off without her, but the rest of the Universe remember her as a War Criminal being a tag along doing community service working directly dor Shepard's own Delta Elite Squad which will get her Killed, take Unloyal White tampon suited Miranda to fight New Giant Human Hybrid Prototype Reaper and when destroyed, the Platforms falls, they fall to the ground, debris fall on Miranda painfully killing her, then Gets Miranda BITCH KILLED

Hey man thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Ya I totally agree in the sense that it could cause issues or even more issues and there IS always chaos, the reason I like it is destroy for example literally does nothing you just will have organics that build synthetics that kill them again to me mass effect over the 3 games shows us that is the case it will always happen, so synthesis may be worse it may be better and regardless there will be chaos, but it’s “poetic” in the sense it breaks us from the shackles into a new dawn that isn’t certain in a chance to become something greater. I 100% get the other sides too though and think they make sense, but synthesis or green to me is just way more “poetic” tying together all the themes as if you actually learned something instead of just “saren bad indoctrination bad sythetics bad save the world!”. Thanks again so much for supporting what I do

@@FranklyGaming that’s the thing the trilogy doesn’t show us or tells us about this chaos except for the quarians/geth conflict. The rogue A.I in me1 was altered by organics (Cerberus) and became EDI. Only synthetic or (A.I) that showed hostility “without” reaper influence was a side quest in the citadel. Don’t forget in the morning war the geth DID NOT wipe out all quarians and actually let them flee rannoch and it was quarians who attacked first. So that alone proves the catalyst wrong (all created will kill all creators theory).If they did I would agree with you. So why don’t the reapers just harvest quarians or/and geth? The only ever conflict we get is geth with a reaper virus (the heretics) which legion and most geth don’t share their views. The reapers and by extension the catalyst, control this so called chaos. I get the appeal of synthesis but the only solution to see if either one us is right is to have no reapers involved in all and every kind of evolution whether organics or synthetics. Destroy does this. It’s the only ending with a clean slate. Every sapient death is unfortunate in this ending but I can’t see how any future with the reapers (who are a form of synthesis) is better. Remember they come from the leviathans what’s stopping them becoming the “apex” race in synthesis? Enslaving and indoctrinating other species because they can. Control has the same problem except what’s stopping them from going rogue? The “ideal” solution is a future without reapers, let life flourish let true evolution happen, let real conflicts/resolutions happen. I get why some people think destroy doesn’t solve anything and I don’t like peoples reason for liking destroy is “ well Shepard lives” that is a poor reason for liking an ending that changes the entire state of a galaxy.. but for me the main and only reasons are no more reapers influencing evolution, conflicts, resolutions, order, and chaos. The first time in billions of years for “Natural Evolution” to take over ALL LIFE in the galaxy. That’s my reason for choosing destroy.

The destroy ending is the one ending that ensures the cycle will not be broken. The synthesis and control endings are more ambiguous in this regard. With the destroy ending, yes the Reapers are defeated but one of the major themes of the games is "organics make synthetics, and then they war with each other forever". If our mission was to break the cycle, then the destroy ending just puts the cycle on pause for a bit by destroying all galactic technology and reverting back to a technological dark age. It is only a matter of time before organics create synthetics again and the cycle begins once more. There is no ensuring that this will never happen -- this was the entire premise of the reapers in the first place. If you are naive enough to believe that the reapers would have been the only instance of this, then by all means the destroy ending is the best choice. Synthesis is by far the most ambiguous, but we can gather from the final cutscenes after choosing synthesis that its intended effects were realized at least for a time after the 3rd game. It does not guarantee that there will be no more war between synthetics/organics, and it does not guarantee any kind of utopia. Indeed, the synthesis ending is for those who are brave enough to try something new. And I dont trust shepard enough for the control ending. That said, I agree with you on the writing. The synthesis and control endings are really dumb and rely on space-magic, which I think is one of the reasons a lot of people didn't like the ending as a whole, and why many people also opted for destroy. But taking the writers in good faith, I think its unreasonable to assume that the reapers were trying to trick shepard in choosing synthesis/control. The ending is a glorified paragon/renegade/neutral dialogue wheel, and no other such dialogue wheel in any of the games were trying to trick us into making an "incorrect" choice. So although it makes sense to think that the reapers wanted us to choose synthesis/control, it is actually not the case and we should instead take the writing at face value.

Well after re-reading your comment I now agree with you. It has become clear to me that the poor writing of the 3rd game has confused some of the themes of the game. In the first 2 games the mission was "stop the reapers, end the cycle", but the 3rd game told us that the cycle is "organics make synthetics, and then they war forever", and this is not the same cycle as the 50,000 year reaper cycle. So our goal in the 3rd game is to find a way to stop synthetics and organics from warring forever, which is absolutely impossible, and apparently we can't kill the Reapers and stop "the cycle" at the same time, we must choose one or the other. So the synthesis ending solves the mission of the 3rd game, but the destroy ending solves the mission of the first 2 games. Honestly, as silly as the endings are, I have to give it to the writers for crafting the endings they did. None of them are perfect and they are hardly satisfactory, but they did accomplish one thing: years later people are still talking about and debating about it.

I think the point is organics would no longer need or desire to make synthetics as they no longer suffer the weakness if flesh

But really think about what catalyst actually says. He says that if you destroy the reapers the organics will eventually create an AI that is advanced as much as the Leviathan for example. And that indeed seems plausible whether it happens million years or thousand in the future it is inevitable because at least one organic will always want to advance in technology. You can argue that the civilizacions would remember what happens when they take that step. But it takes only one lunatic to create self improving AI which (who?) eventually will become like Leviathan and the cycle will go on. The destrucion ending is not the solution whether you like it or not. The control ending could theoretically work because it's outcome might resemble the syntesis ending with the exception of DNA alteration. Under Shepards control the Reapers could help organics and the geth would not be destroyed so they would preserve their code of "friendship" but you must understand that this code for synthetics is not natural for them. If you choose the destrucion ending the organics will make synthetics to serve them but since synthetics gain conciousness they will try to survive and that will always result in conflict because organics doesn't understand synthetics and will fight them. The syntesis is the best ending because it's outcome isn't as vague as the control which could go either way and it saves the galaxy of syntetics/organics conflict.

But how would we know what's the best option either? We're not perfect beings. Humanity is incredibly flawed, and Shepard themselves makes flawed decisions sometimes. Ultimately the Catalyst gives you a choice in the end, and Synthesis is the choice some people believed to be the best one.

@@writershard5065 I believe destroy to be better option personally.

I do agree anything the catalyst agrees with feeling like we loose. Who to say synthesis won’t stop them they’ll come back for another reason and it’s square one. Being human or not I’d rather destroy them, the relays and possibly AI can be rebuilt in time as soon and said in the perfect ending and “IF” synthetics turn against there creators then we’ll deal with that next our own way

Because the Catalyst gives Shepard choice. The Catalyst really tried to find out solution to this matter, the Catalyst tells Shepard that reapers can be destroyed and do not stops him if Shepard choses that optiotion. The Catalyst does it because he is aware that his solution is not relevant anymore.

For me the theory of indoctrination has always been wrong. The Reapers saw in Sheppard an organic being who could finally make up his mind. The loop would restart if the reapers were destroyed, there are limits to organic beings so the AIs would always respawn and at one point everything would restart. and finally the reapers do not need to convince you through dialogue. It is known that not all the reapers even went to war. Perhaps the Sheppard cycle was the only one where several species joined to fight the reapers and that made them see us as the cycle that could finally decide what would happen. Destruction or Union. but I do think it was the right ending.

Ikr! Agent Smith's speech in Matrix about humankind being a virus to Earth made so much sense, too!

Yet the Reapers persist after Synthesis, and the Geth were no match for them before, so the synthesized Reapers could prevent any newly created AIs that decide to revolt from rising to power or overcoming the entirety of the now synthetic galaxy.

@@jkvam I didn't think of that before and good point. However I'd still point to my last part on how the synthesis even works, like a pulse that changes everything in the universe on a cellular/atomic level, that can't be good. Also how does the pulse even know what is an intelligent being to alter. Sure maybe it changes organics but then how about the geth and other intelligent robots, how can a simple pulse know the difference between metal from a robot to metal from a building. Do we just have synthetic living buildings now, how about the metal in the earth, do we just have living mountains now. Nothing about the synthesis ending makes any sense when you actually think about how its implemented and the effect it would really have. Another thing is sure the reapers are synthetic now but who controls them. Is the previous intelligence still in charge cause then you have a genocidal AI still in control and if it sees another race be created and then rise up it might realize that everything being synthetic didn't actually do shit and start genociding the galaxy again. And if the previous AI is not in control anymore then what else is, are the reapers their own independent society now, then who's to say what they will do, maybe they will help but then again you have a society of powerful beings that have only known genocide and might just finish the job or maybe they will conquer the galaxy and rule over it like their creators did before them cause they sure have the power to do so. So I still stand that the blue control ending is the best option cause red just sends everything back to the stone age and green makes no sense as a solution. But I like your comment, got my brain thinking.

@@Mr.SchnapsYeah, the green wave is a deus ex machina, for sure, especially when it comes to any question about "the how" of it. Story themes, decision points, do contribute to the reveal of the Synthesis ending option, but even so, it was poorly--if at all--foreshadowed in the lore or codex of the game and leaves much to be desired on that account. What I enjoy about all the choices is NOT how they're satisfying, they all have their problems, but that they stimulate so much conversation and metaphysical speculation/conjecture. The comment section of this video is a testament to that. Very engaging. Thanks for offering your own insight.

I would disagree the catalyst has to be bad, also I would say geth aren’t just pure good and quarians evil etc. The catalyst/reapers are the true protectors of the galaxy, it’s like you said destory is just kicking the can down the road, you have to do synthesis at some point or it’s all over anyways. Destroy will be what they do in the next mass effect because it will make all the problems arise again, and synthesis will become more and more obviously the correct answer and the only one that leads humanity and the other races into the next step of evolution. The entire series, reapers, organics, and especially the stories and history of leviathans and their teachings, shows us that organics and synthetics are always doomed to fight, the geth aren’t a counter example of this, they are the perfect example of why the synergy fails, they would turn on the creators even when they seem nice or the creators would turn. Believing that for some reason it will work after millions of years to the contrary through hundreds and thousands of civilizations is ignorance. Synthesis maybe makes the universe worse we don’t know, but it does solve the core issue at the heart of the series. Destroy just lets future civilizations have to deal with the same issues and leads into a new game series well

From your perspective, at what point in the story did Shepard become indoctrinated?

@jkvam so I believe it was a series of progressive steps. Starting in my opinion near the end of ME1. I know some would argue the cloning labs but to me at that point Shepard hadn't really proved themselves yet. I think the point of no return was the arrival DLC. After that I think Shepard was theirs and they were just waiting to "activate" them.

@@TheTruePacmanMG I haven't mastered the lore, but the timeline that I found said that Arrival occurs shortly before or after ME2's Suicide Mission. If that's the case, did you take Javik to Thessia? If so, Vendetta VI provides an important, yet easy to overlook, clue regarding indoctrination. Check it out.

@jkvam if I remember correctly arrival was after the suicide mission but it has been years since my last playthrough. I think I remember what you are talking about but it's vague. I'll look it up to refresh myself on it.

@@TheTruePacmanMG The Thessia mission is in ME3, so might impact your perception of the indoctrination theory. It is a bit sudden, but if you notice it, you might have an ah-ha moment.

LOL he’s on to me, thanks for watching man haha

@@FranklyGaming of course man, great video. I never thought about that ending in the way you presented it and I've only done Destroy ending whenever I've played so I might just do Synthesis next playthrough.

@@zgamer1154 ya I think mass effect is awesome cause you can really do any ending and have a good reason, I have a theory video coming out Tuesday I think you will really love too

@@FranklyGaming well then I look forward to seeing it

You'd seriously have to hope absolute power doesn't corrupt sheppard, because one man wielding an army of reapers genuienly sounds like it has the potential to be a worse threat than the repars themselves lol

Thanks so much!

Thanks for reminding don't me why I picked green, this video almost talked me out of it.

On face value, I can understand where you're coming from. But when you think a little harder, and go a little deeper, you'll realize how sinister Synthesis really is. First off - Garrus explicitly states that this is a war where choices between dooming 10 million to save 2 billion lives is going to be the norm. It's tragic to doom the Geth so soon after negotiating a peace with them... but to save the Galaxy, to destroy the Reapers, it's a cost that all civilizations agreed that they'd be willing to pay. (As an aside, the Geth might have survived the Destroy ending, as they had many outposts and servers in dark space). Secondly - Control is the worst ending hands down, as you said, since a benevolent dictator is the best case scenario if you chose Blue... Shepard's mind would replace the Starchild, in essence, and even a full Paragon Shep is far from a perfect person. However, Synthesis does something even more sinister. It robs every single sentient being in the Milky Way of free will. This violation of consent, something that was never agreed upon and has unknown ramifications, is also the only option in which the Reapers maintain their "souls"/lives. Blue submits them to the control of the new AI, and Red destroys them. So, in a sense, you're falling blindly into the option that the Starchild *clearly* prefers and changing the very fabric of existence without the consent of trillions or any idea of the fall-out or ramifications. Finally - No Utopia should be free. The Milky Way is not alone, and the only galaxy effected. What if the Space Magic of Synthesis could be undone? Why should a galaxy that only *just* took the first steps to prove the Reapers/Starchild/Leviathans wrong just take a short cut to 'perfection', when they could take what they learned and reach Synthesis organically, and by choice. In order to create true and lasting peace, the building blocks of that peace should be learned, so that when tests or tragedy strikes, that peace can be maintained and rebuilt. So, while Perfect Destroy isn't a perfect option, I still hold that it's the best option, if only because it ends the dominating Reapers Cycle and allows this fledgling universe to continue it's struggle towards creating a stable and peaceful galactic community.

I just finishing the trilogy a second time because at first try I could not save both the Geth and the Quarians. Without that detail the synthesis ending is just does not feel right, even if it really the only solution of the basis problem of the whole trilogy.

Same here, I didn’t spend all that time making sure the geth and quarians got along so I could just destroy them in the end, green seemed like the best option even if it meant Shepard dies

@@jglerum94 I mean if you think about it, synthesis is a more preferable choice in my opinion, if you choose to help the geth than whether you acknowledge it or not your saying that the geth are indeed a form of life, and no matter what justification you give, destroy would essentially be you backtracking on that, and it wouldn't end the cycle, it would just push the problem farther down to others, synthesis is the only one that saves the most lives, and while the starched may prefer the synthesis one, he is in no way making you pick it, nor stopping you from choosing one of the other endings, he is just explaining what's available since he knows he can't stop you, even I'd he wanted to

Exactly, the Starchild is a liar. Though honestly you can’t blame it, anyone would lie to save themselves. The Starchild is somehow benevolent enough to let a human either control them or let a human merge organics and synthetics? While simultaneously eradicating an untold number of civilizations over the eons? Not once did the Reapers attempt to just work with the organics?

I guess the counter there there is that is a dictatorship basically, to keep synthesis is more “poetic” in that it free organics and synthetics from the shackles of their conflict forever. Thanks for supporting the channel by the way!

@@FranklyGaming id think that living along side creatures as powerful as the reapers even in their new non-violent form doesn’t make for much equality. Wouldn’t be much different from control in that regard either

how did you make it to however old you are with that ammount of fear of change... astounding... and arrogant on top of it... stagnation is the absence of logic...

@@bloodfoxtriberc fear of change? That's not change. Synthesis is literally erasing what made everything and everyone unique. And even then morally the reapers have genocided countless trillions and now we storyboard mcguffin into frolicking through a field of flowers with the enemy we spent a franchise fighting. Forget any lessons the series has taught us. Because "one love mannn" lol

Seems more likely than turning their back on 3 games of having it rubbed in their face that synthetics are very much alive and feeling, the freindships most players will have made with multiple AIs, and just saying 'fuck it, genocide em all, its the only way'...

@@reidwallace4258 But ever since Shepard set out on their mission, the objective was clear: destroy the Reapers at all costs. Throughout the entire series, they have encountered every threat the Reapers pose within the entire known universe, they have had to make sacrifices on their mission (Kaiden or Ashley, Anderson, Legion, Thane, depending on player choice, the Rachni and the Krogan) and they've been aware of Indoctrination since the very first game because of Saren, and then the Illusive Man. It would make no sense for them to suddenly turn around and go "You know what, maybe these genocidal murder squids have a point." As the Catalyst themselves said, "What is destroyed will be rebuilt, and the cycle will begin anew." Except it won't, because Shepard showed the galaxy their mistakes regarding synthetics, and they won't be rebuilt with mindset of just making a tool. What gets destroyed can and will be repaired and restored, with the new mindset that Shepard instilled in them. The point is, sacrifice is nothing new to Shepard. This is very much a case of "The needs of the many vs the needs of the few." Sure, they COULD Control or Synthesise like the Reapers suggest, but what reason does Shepard have to believe they're telling the truth when the entire series they've been lying, manipulating, controlling countless people for the end goal of total annihilation? Especially after they had just moments before witnessed the Illusive Man under Indoctrination murder the closest thing to a mentor and father figure they had throughout the series. The Illusive Man wanted to Control them, and you spend the entire game trying to convince him that he only thinks it's possible because the Reapers have Indoctrinated him to think it is. Then suddenly right after killing him, you can just go "The Reapers have told me it's possible to Control them or merge with them. I think they're telling me the truth!" THAT is turning your back on three games worth of tragedy and sacrifice.

@@morganfitch8325 I just don't see it. I mean, I get where you are coming from, but it just doesn't balance out, doesn't add up. From the opening hours of ME1 we are shown repeatedly that monsters, frankly, arn't. The Racchni, the Krogan, if ME is fundementally about anything its about the foolishness of painting with a broad brush, and trying to solve your problems with big, irreversible decisions. It is a good thing the Racchni survived, a damned good thing the genophage didn't work any better than it did, and arguably could have been a net postitive to spare the geth if the space RV enthusiests hadn't had such a chip on their shoulders. Again and again the story tells us that no, what you thought was a monster that needed to be exterminated was infact not that... Then we turn around and exerminate a monster? IDGAF what Shepards 'orders' were at the start of this adventure, those orders arn't the game we played threw. The sacrafices that were made were personal and painful, yes, but they were also for a good cause, not blind faith in a simple order. We didn't gun down legion because we feared that someday AI would go rogue and kill us all, we gunned him down because he was going to fight to defend himself, because he wanted to live, because he was alive... That implies life not just in legion, and ede, but every other geth and past and future synthetic lifeform. That makes the red ending into picking which races decerve to live and wiping the others out, not turning off the lights when you are done with them... which is frankly, the least heroic ending we are offered... although unsurprisingly, yes you are right, it IS what the uninformed military command structure technically ordered us to do... which should honestly be a big red flag in and of itself.

@@morganfitch8325 It's bold of you to assume that this cycle would be any different from the previous ones, or that the races of the Galaxy would "learn their lesson" about creating synthetics because of something Shepard did. The leviathans said it themselves that organic races created synthetic life, and it wiped them out, time and time again, without fail. The leviathans have no reason to lie to Shepard, since they never intended to let Shepard leave that ocean.

Shepard is you, my friend.

Bruh that’s explained in the first game as soon as you can talk to Kaiden is caused by exposure to element zero the thing that lets them do faster then light travel The asari homeworld thessia had a lot of it which is why they are all biotics

@@logandelaharpe6362 that's not really an explanation, for example it doesn't explain why not everyone using mass relays is biotic then, or how it works. does it change dna? is more like a catalyst to an existing ability? why is red sand amplifying them or even giving people biotic abilities? what are they, is it quantum field manipulation is it something changing spacetime? etc. yeah knowing the eezo exposure has something to do with it isn't much of an answer.

but i also made peace with the geth and quarians

The idea that your choices never mattered was always bonkers, and the fact that gamers couldn’t realise it was a disproportionate, emotional response and not a genuine critique was - well, not surprising, given the quality of discourse present over much of the medium. The game set the expectation that players would SEE the immediate and sometimes long-term implications of their actions, but just because the game slammed the window shut did not mean the actions didn’t have consequences. The players just weren’t around to see them, which is ok. The story was over, Shepard’s journey was concluded.

yeah well said @@mendaxgames3311

Hey man thanks for watching! Read over your comment not sure what I got wrong I got all the info here listed correct in the video? Thanks for watching by the way!