One of the best things about this show was that it kept the zombies as the main threat and didn't go down the "humans are the real monsters" path like everyone else does

The girl in the pink cardigan pissed me off sm, her being paranoid is justified but she was so dumb but turning someone into a zombie IN THE SAME ROOM💀

I think the change rate of the zombies depends on their fear and/or anger, since the nurse wasn't at all scared but the guy she bit was and it turned him faster.

fun fact! there was a theory that On-jo was actually the first hambie, but the reason she didn’t go feral like Gwi-nam or Nam-ra is because, instead of being bitten like them, she was only scratched by Hyeon-ju at the beginning. this kinda explains the reason why, in the lunchroom scene, the first zombie just kinda “smells”(i don’t rlly know what he does lol) her rather than attacking her, and why the hamster doesn’t bite her ankle while they’re in the science lab. also, I-sak does rush towards her when she becomes infected, but that could’ve just been because she was attracted to the sound, not because she was attacking her.

The kids not making weapons at any point in time ESPECIALLY when they had all that material on the roof drove me nuts.

Nam ra could have definitely solved a lot of issues. She was a halfbie and therefore zombies wouldn't really go after her. So why the hell didn't she just go out first and distract the zombies with loud noises while the others got away?

Something that is cool about the show is all the stories that go by unnoticed in the background, like the bullying, or the pregnant student just leaving school in the middle of the day, really makes you feel like this is a regular school drama just with zombies & mutated zombies

28:56 It's not just the "whistling" that override the rage of gyungsoo. It made him calm for a bit because the song that cheongsan whistled is the song that they used to sing together as shown in the first part of the movie. IDK why you can pinpoint all these "sinful" details but overlooked that detail in their friendship.

They really could have gave the mom a better ending than her losing all common sense and running straight to a zombie and still acting confused after she’s attacked.

As for the dad. They showed a closeup on his hand. He was bitten that's why he sacrificed himself but blink and you miss it. But before that reveal I had the same reaction

The reason there is a difference in turning time is because it depends on how scared somebody is, I-sak only turned when it was mentioned she had a bite which makes her life scared, causing her to turn

I will say, having taught in Korea, the obsession with college that Mi-jin exhibited kind of made sense. There is insane pressure throughout a student's entire education to go to college, even more so than in the US. Korean kids from middle to highschool are generally in school and after school classes/tutoring 10-12 hours per day. Plus schools are often open late at night for students to go back and study. That is why a lot of students who may be in the middle-low end would have a lot of animosity towards classmates who can get in for athletics alone. Also, college is seen as a break and time to have fun. Getting in is hard, but once they are there, it is easy comparative to high school. When I would tell my students about highschool in America (Getting out by 3, being in plays, clubs, hanging out with friends, going to parties) they said it sounded so fun like college. Plus, the biggest deciding factor in going to college, and which college, rides on a test given once per year. There are no makeups or options to take multiple tests like with the SAT in the US. During COVID, there had to be special measures enacted so students could take it from their hospital beds. That's also why at the end, you see Mi-jin protesting for special exemptions. She missed her chance to take that test and will have to wait till the following year if she wants to take it again.

As a high school student myself, I guess the reason they didn't kill zombies that could potentially kill them and resorted to just pushing em off or other is because they're afraid of killing. It isn't ethically, morally and emotionally easy to stab a person even if that person is waggling zombie ready to bite you at any given moment.

Another sin is the archer girl shooting her arrows and not picking them up and reusing it when they are nearby despite arrows being finite. Another sin is the scientist leaving the girl at the school overnight so she could infect everyone rather than stuffing her in a suitcase and chaining her up like he did with his son. Another scene is them complaining about being hungry and thirsty yet nobody bothering to check any drawers for food or supplies. The show is fun but is riddled with a bunch of unfinished storylines and massive plot holes.

In the Webtoon they specified that the zombies go for people they already marked as prey so that might explain why the zombies walked past people at certain points, though they should’ve just explained that in the show 💀

For 16:15, I think the reason why an arrow would kill her instead of the wood spear is due to actual anatomy. At that angle you can use a knife to cut the brain off from the rest of the body. The only other time we see this is with Gwi Nam in the staff lunch room when he uses a knife to kill one of the zombies. He ends up keeping the knife with him after that till becoming a halfbie.

No one noticed that when the bully was trying to escape on the bike he had the blade of the knife in his mouth. The same knife he just killed zombies with, and that had no effect on him.

Y'all have to keep in mind that the majority of the show takes place within a time a span of 4 days. I found the initial government response to be rather realistic as mobilizing a military response would take at least 2 days.

Honestly I can gloss over many of the mistakes the characters in this show does because they are teenagers. If I was a highschool student and zombie outbreak suddenly happens in my school, ngl I would probably act just like these characters

To clear things up, when the hambies are infected (like Nam-Ra) they don’t actually know what they are capable of unlike the audience, Nam-Ra didn’t know that she could be avoided by zombies and didn’t know that she had zombie strength. Also one of the groups did make weapons, but the other group probably didn’t because they had a lot more other things to be worrying about. It’s become obvious that you aren’t infected unless the zombie blood enters your bloodstream, so even if it was on your face you probably wouldn’t be infected if there was no open wound. The show clearly shows that the virus mutates over time, spreading faster, and the reason why the poor kids infection was slower is because he was infected with a tiny amount of blood onto a tiny scratch whereas others got infected with big bites. Stupid decisions are very plausible in a situation where everybody is fighting for their lives, and not in the right headspace to make rational decisions. The show shows us that the zombies vision is incredibly blurred and it tells us that they are way more sensitive to sound than smell, meaning they’ll have a hard time focusing on one target and will usually go for whoever is closest or making the most sound. Military decisions take a while to be made considering all the controversy and consequences of such important decisions, they didn’t fully know or understand how the virus worked at first and they needed time to make a rational decision. I want to add that the zombies behaviour is irrational and they would never make logical decisions nor choose logical targets.

How to survive a zombie outbreak: 1: Be aware of your surroundings 2:Wrap yourself in leather, tape, armor, or heavy clothes that prevent bites 3: Help who you can, you never know who has skills or knowledge that cane save you 4: Learn what kind of zombies you are dealing with and how the infection spreads 5: Good weapons like swords, axes, and bows are silent and can prevent a horde from hearing you. Only use a gun if you have plenty of ammo and are ready to kill some zombies. 6: Find out where to get food, and a fortified place to sleep. Get to terrain like mountains if you can. 7: Good luck.

As for the firefighter dad, PAY ATTENTION TO HIS FLIPPING HAND DUDE! THEY EVEN MADE A CLOSE UP OF IT TO SHOW THAT HE GOT BITTEN THERE!!! EVEN THE DAUGHTER SAW IT AND WAS SHOCKED!!!! +10 sins for you not paying attention

Most of these (and I mean like 99%) can be cleared up really easily by simple things like, irrational behaviour, the zombies not having minds of their own, having bad vision and relying mostly on sound and simply by “well it just happened” because while yes, stuff like five zombies jumping out of windows at the same time is unlikely, it could still happen, especially considering the fact that the zombies run with full force at their targets

I have not seen this movie, but just the idea of being trapped in a cafeteria with a couple of zombies and knowing that you’re probably doomed is terrifying. It reminds me of the second-to-last episode of Midnight Mass, which expertly uses that paranoia and looming fear. If you haven’t watched Midnight Mass or started watching it and stopped, I implore you to finish it. The final 2 episodes are amazing

The girl who got bit by the hamster didn’t attack/try to bite anyone because the science teacher gave her drugs to slow it down, so that’s why the nurse turned fast because she didn’t have the drugs the other girl had.

I like to think that the zombies here have trouble picking their targets because of the anger the virus is based off of, much like how when ur angry you have lots of thoughts and emotions coming and going through u mind, never really focusing on one specific one

The one thing I did notice on how the infection starts to take over is more to how much fear is felt before the body is able to let it mutate into the halfbie strain, so how fast the infection takes over seems to be based on those chemicals interacting with the virus Considering it came from a concentrated form of a chemical that triggers in mice when extreme fear is felt to make them fight back, it somewhat makes sense in a way

Just found your channel but I just wanted to say what I love about your commentary so far is that you frequently take off sins when you know something contradicts your past logic or idea of a situation. And it actually makes sense when you both sin or remove it. Subscribed

This show could have a 100k sins and it would still be one of my favorite additions to the zombie genre ever. The characters all have such great personalities, they all stand out from one another and the character development is amazing. Something that most zombie films and shows completely ignore.

Can't believe you didn't add the "solution" they did by tying their hands together when they were unsure if Nam Ra would turn. He said "so she can only bite me" like bro if she bites you and you both turned, that's so useless and stupid, now the entire remaining team has to deal with 2 zombies at the same time. Jeez

I loved that little convoluted spot @8:20 If I had attended that high school back in the day, I would have stayed suspended because I would always stay at that spot and just kick it

The reason why the infection time is so inconsistent is bc most characters to random ppl the virus is deciding should it take over or not and make you into a Hambie. basically this virus takes over the body based on if you feel fear but if you don't feel fear and you are fearless in the face of death during the infection you'll become a hambie, most of the characters who turned would have become a hambie if they didn't feel fear like that kid that turn bc pink girl was upset with him. He was afraid of being laughed at and the virus enhance that very fear to take over. The director already gave hints on how the hambie works.

I find it interesting that throwing off the zombies makes them leave you alone in the show considering in the webtoon, it's an immediate point that the zombies latch on to and remember the humans they go after. If they spot a human and chase them, they will ignore other humans to get that one, even if they see them later

The infected viewing humans as threats in order to make them attack and spread the virus reminds me of one short animated story from the I Am Legend dvd. A girl in India thought her entire family were infected trying to kill her and was forced to defend herself when in fact she was the infected one and murdered her entire family. She later viewed their bodies as food that she needed to eat in order to avoid starvation.

1:15 there was actually a dark thing that covered the box and it was in his lab and no student should enter it without permissiom

This is not a cinema sins parody, you provide honest, and thoughtful criticism that give me the impression you actually watched the movie before reviewing it

I kinda have an explanation for the MRI scene. These zombies are really sensitive to extremely loud noises, I've been in MRIs before when I was a teenager and had to have a benign tumor on my wrist checked. It was very upsetting, and this virus has been known to respond to moods.

Moral of the story: The slower the infection, the more important your character is.

Well I knew when one of the characters early in the Show actually jokes “It’s Train To BUSAN” that they were breaking the ZOMBIE conventional “ Third wall” ! I love it though , love the mix of high school romantic angst and Zombie mayhem! Very well done , loved the series.

Tyrese's death in twd was actually pretty good considering its implied he's not a fighter, he says as much while hallucinating the radio By saying "Turn it off." He's saying while he understands bad things will always be, he doesn't care and wants off the ride I also like how the radio is talking about things his group either went through or did (Tyrese mentions in the prison that his dad used to make him sit up and listen to 'the bad things' people did on the radio to toughen him up)

The turn rate changed from the first zombie because it evolved in a span of 24 hours. it would make sense since it's a virus. it rapidly mutates like what you said in the analysis.

For the zombies "giving up on their target", I think they can only focus on one certain person/thing so they only go for what they are seeing or hearing at the exact moment

I think that the virus's infection time, from when someone is bit and when they turn, isn't fully just because it works for the plot. After all it is still a virus, and has an incubation rate that can vary between each person. It can still feel convenient at times but I don't think it takes away too much from the show.

I want to say: While doing TWD’s TV show Robert Kirkmen genuinely tried to kill off Judith but they didn’t allow it,we need more directors like Kirkmen who will try to kill off babies if it means more drama in the story

I have a theory about Cheong-San making his big sacrifice while somehow not turning: I bet he ended up also being one of the immune ones, but due to taking Gwi-Nam with him he ended up killing Gwi-Nam and himself.

Let's not ignore the fact they needed a bathroom and went through a complicated set up when there was a *garbage bin* in the announcement room it was clear from they stepped in I don't know how you miss that.

absolutely dying at the fallout references, sole survivor absolutely floored me. also comparing the policeman as frank west, in love with all your references. your videos are top notch quality 10/10

THANK YOU! I shouted most of these at the screen when I watched it.

When I first watched this, I realized about half way through why they never went for the head, they made it clear that as students, most of them weren't strong enough to pierce the skull, though when you get into the scene where they are on the streets with shovels, you see that now that they have something harder, some can penetrate the skull with enough hits, it takes a lot though.

You've missed some things, the whole reason later when they get the laptop & then ditch the students is because they find out about being asymptomatic, so they can't risk having more outbreaks (but also you'd think they'd also check for bite marks), a reason why the soldiers didn't think nam ra was infected is the other students prolly wouldn't keep someone bitten around them

I enjoy the connections you made in this since even I, (who has watched the series about 6 times) hasn’t thought about it. I don’t mean to put any pressure on you but I, and I’m sure many other people would love to see everyone great with All of us are Dead. Also, just want to say that I really enjoy your videos. Anyway, I hope anyone reading this has a great day

-10x1000 sins because props to the camera man for not getting bitten, getting killed by an explosion, getting shot and for the close-ups

The Dad was already bitten. That is why he sacrificed himself.

Nam ra didn't knew she is avoided by zombies She got to know it when in the basketball court where the zombies weren't looking at her but her friends And three reason that she didn't draw the zombies away in the construction site was because she was hungry and weak Imagine yourself in her shoes Your food is in front of you but you can't eat it even though you're starving plus you have to fight as well I think nam ra deserves way better than that,she doesn't deserve to be a hambie Her heart is bigger than mostly humans

Was not expecting a Left 4 Speed 2 reference in the out-takes. And keeping in the faint "Kiddy Land!" in the background makes it perfect.

I have been watching people review this ever since I finished earlier today you are the 1st person to accurately call this "live action high school of the dead" thank you sir

This is such a sinful but amazing series.

I hate that pink sweater girl with a passion, she snaked everyone out for no reason

honestly I was really into the show at first (because I love the way korea does zombies) so I was able to overlook a lot in the beginning but after a while main plot got SO REPETITIVE omg. I had to force myself to finish the last couple of episodes. it turned into "here's where we have to go, oh no we're trapped, hey here's an idea to get out of this, oh no we're trapped again, hey here's another idea" over and over again. by the time they got trapped in the gym I had to take a break. and I had the exact same reaction when the dad died!! whole season of being badass and THAT'S how he goes out??? and idk, I get being glad that they finally decided to fight the zombies but that was genuinely one of the first times where it actually made sense for them to NOT fight, because they had the upper hand of not being actively chased by the zombies and could've easily avoided an unnecessary confrontation also I hated that eunji wasn't the one to kill the bully. I get he had to be the antagonist for the rest of the season but when she came back as a hambie I was really hoping revenge on the bully was where it was going. or even at least her getting to attack one of the other bullies. instead she never even sees them

I don’t know why everyone is aspecting the main characters to make rational decisions while they are fighting for their lives and experiencing the trauma of other people dying in front of them, it’s more realistic for them to spend time making decisions and panic rather than do the best thing in that moment

I was honestly waiting for you to cover this. There was WAY too many stuff that could be avoided and honestly after I watched this the first thing that came in mind was you making a long video about everything wrong with this series.

There are so many "Thats Convenient" "Thats Inconvenient" "Thats Dramatic" But the only thing I don't agree with, is you not removing the sin for the Knife Throw when in the next episode it shows that the knife didn't even hit him right

something I must point out that is easily forgotten. The virus reacts to strong emotions like fear or anger. that's why some students/teachers took different timing to turn.

Dunno if everyone noticed, but Gwi-nam (the bully) getting thrown out from high places and surviving is essentially the show's running gag.

It's crazy that they let eunji walk around freely while THE COUNCIL LADY AND HER TEAM ARE QUARANTINED AND THEY GOT THERE BEFORE HER!!

really glad you're covering this series, haven't seen too much in-depth content on the show so far and your commentary is always wonderfully complimentary. plus as someone who has watched your videos for a couple of years now, thank you for coming in clutch with the best vids whenever i'm feeling down. Hope u doing well yourself bro 💛

1:14:05 I'm so glad you included in the bloopers the l4d2 intro to the dead center campaign

50:33 The zombies on front of the bus disappeared conveniently so that they could accelerate and move on

The reason that the dad sacrificed himself is that he had a bite on his hand.

There are two distinction to hambies. 1. Immortal: They are real half zombies that are very aggressive every time and can infect others. Ex. The bully and the bullied girl. 2. Immune: They are actually immune to the disease and they can not infect others. Ex. Class Pres. This is an information straight from the director.

I think that the reason Hyeon-Ju {Hamster bite girl} was able to not turn was because of all the drugs in her system. When he thought she was turning he just put more and more drugs in her to 'slow down the process'. That was also a reason as too what if she was trying to scream for help, he put more drugs in her. The more and more drugs in her system proved that she wouldn't turn. And besides it was a hamster bit. A very small bite like a paper cute so I doubt it even entered her system throughout the night because of how small and how many drugs were in her system. Also I think a lot of these characters were just put there for some character develop for the 4 main characters, the main 2 being Nam On-jo {the main girl who confesses to the turned good jock}, Lee Cheong-san {Inlove with main girl for some godforsaken reason}, then the ones who were main character, main character plot. The jock turned good and the class president. It really shows how the show mainly cares not about the complexity of the show but more of the 'love' triangle between the befriends and the Jock that then got ruined because of the class president. This show was all over the place but does that mean that it wasn't executed well? Not at all, this show is a great coming of age zombie series. It talks about love interest, horror, real life mistakes, and bulling. Its a show i would watch when I'm bored or am just in the mood. So far id say the rating is 7.3/10. It had great qualities, the friendships between the main characters befriends and there death was well done it showed character growth a little as well. But a lot of it was all over the place and it really gets your skin to peel off in annoyment with how much it focuses on the love between these teens and less about the zombies. It had great character development but some characters just annoyed me till the very end and had little to no growth. But the show teaches you lessons and it has beautiful scenes and structure that just gets you hooked.

Regarding the "fire" call on their emergency hotline. I have read somewhere that during emergencies, yelling fire actually has the best chances that somebody would respond. This was actually smart on On-jo.

You do have to give them major cred for their tense run scenes. The unreal reactions of Cheong-San is incredible. And he makes it so fluid in the moment. It’s beautiful

My problem with korean zombies so far is that any melee weapon, unless it's extremely sharp, feel like they're made out of paper. They were using metal bats!

Not even bit by the virus but the anger and frustration I felt watching this series felt like I was

I remember seeing the trailer and one of the students says “this is like train to busan” way to go zombie show for recommending other zombie media

The actress who played Nayeon that character's defense, saying that (rough translation; I found it online and I don't speak Korean) Nayeon was someone actually devoted to what she feels in the moment. She also said that Na Yeon is appearing below strain, in an excessive scenario. People behave in a different way when they’re desperately making an attempt to outlive and that her need to live was expressed differently. Personally, I didn't like her to begin with, and while Na Yeon's actress said that if people hate her character, it means she did a good job, I'm still not a fan of the character. Seriously, NO WEAPON AT ANY POINT with ALL THAT MATERIAL?! Fun fact: if Nayeon looks familiar to you, it's because the actress who played her, Lee Yoo Mi, was also in Squid Game

Even though 34.5C is low, but that is still a plausible amount of Temperature, but 29C is close to the temperature of a dead person.

I'm pretty sure that this man is able to make a series about a series longer than the series.

Anyone else notice that the zombie that grabed the virus creator's right hand at 28:50 wasnt even biting him it was just shaking its head😂😂

The reason I think the driver wasn't driving away from the school is that I think he got bitten by someone on the outside while driving toward the school - because one of the buildings near the school was currently under construction and thus, in need of materials. The truck scene was super creepy to me because it was showing that the infection was already spreading on the outside as well - the tiniest hint that they're already too late to get help.

Asian society’s are very different then ours, 2 years in Korea and I never saw a pregnant teen and class difference are huge, the poor are looked down on and harassed if they step out of line. Image is everything in thier country’s

Basically the stick already did a bit of damage and the arrow added more

I watch a couple of cinema sins parody channels, including yours, and all you guys do way better than he does. Great vid!

I found it so annoying that the blood on their clothes didn't turn brown after a few hours. It is such an easy detail to add that i think broke the "professionality" of the show...

If she claimed there where was an armed attacker then the fire department would have called the police and the police would have a high chance of dismissing it as a prank, due to having already gotten multiple calls regarding zombies from that same location. The fire department haven't heard anything yet, so it's best to just get them to come immediately. Also I'd say the patient zero girl weaving in and out of her zombie fugue is consistent with the son, so I think we can infer that the virus has some trouble taking over humans when making the first jump from rat to person. Also, it's not like people react to viral infections in real life with 100% consistency either, I've always found it weird when people treat differing zombie incubation times, as plot holes. As for the Coach not hiding his bite, it's entirely possible that he just didn't realize he was bitten. People have gotten stabbed repeatedly, without feeling a thing. ---- Also Preemptively killing infected people before they turn encourages people to hide their bites instead of come clean. Not to mention it's probably just way harder, psychologically, to kill someone who hasn't turned yet.

to justify the "why didn't they make weapons?" 1. They are too busy escaping and hiding from zombies, none of them except for a few like Su Hyeok and Cheong san had the ability to fight to the death with a bunch of zombies and best they can kill a few, not a whole swarm 2. At the rooftop there a multiple reasons why they wouldn't waste energy making weapons. Firstly, they just escaped a horde, and reached the root top safely, they need to rest. Secondly, they still believed in being rescued. Thirdly, Gwi nam came and thought with them, none of them expected him to just revive at the time. After that, when they got abandoned at the rooftop these kids become pessimistic and hopeless like normal people, after all even the military has decided to not save you. Then on top of that they haven't had water for three days and nights, they are dehydrated. They decide to just rest before moving. They don't have a plan yet to start making weapons. Finally why didn't they make weapons before heading off to the mountain? Because they don't have time, the storm is an abrupt chance to leave using the sound of thunder. If they made weapons they would waste time in the storm when they have to run to the destination. 3. They actually did make weapons but crude ones and not all of them. Yes some people were pretty useless and never made a move to fight with anything, but a few did use weapons, namely the archers and the one girl who smoked. In every fight seen they used the things around them like chairs or instruments to attack and defend. But again, they are mainly trying to escape not fight. Because who would be able to fight in this situation? Thus, they did not carry their weapons with them

i just wanna say that the reason On-jo’s father locked himself in the tennis court is because he got bit on the hand(idk when) so that’s why he sacrifices himself

> they acknowledge about the zombie virus > Still never using any tool to defend themselves > Spend most of time arguing to each other

Two issues they did show the hambies were indeed affected by the sound And her dad sacrificed himself cuz he was bitten so he was already dead before he locked them out

Those edits at the end, oh man amazing

Infection rate changing made sense to me as the virus changing as it infected people. The Professor's son was clearly some kind of "halfbie", explaining why he didn't work like regular zombies.

At 33:50 he didn't actually manage to land the knife in his back, the handle hit him and bounced off

The whole her hating him for being poor thing is how alot of peopel act here ive lived here for seven years and the issue with the cops and force multipliers is that they need permission from higher officials to use them unless total war breaks out.

I'm pretty sure an actual swarm of fast zombies is a violation of South Korea's national security law.

10:19 she reacted especially violently in the MRI because of the high frequency created by it. This gets explained later.

There were quite a few moments where I paused and discussed with my wife the problems and changing of rules throughout the series. That said we loved this series, Korean media executes emotional dramas and zombies very well.

I think the inconsistent turning into an infected depends on where the bite and it's distance to the brain Usually zombie virus always Took control the brain, hence the aggressiveness, like the student bitten by the nurse in the neck, it took 30 seconds before turning and the PE teacher who took longer to turn along with the Girl that was bitten in the leg It's just my perspective on the matter though 🤔🤔

Once they discovered that the zombies are attracted to sound mostly, they could've taken advantage of that so much more.

I was bored out of my mind and somehow finished the series even though i dropped it like 5 mins in thanks for doing this it made it even better