Exactly

I would agree with this except that he still has his daughter and is trying to marry her. I imagine that is something that would retain a bit of a relevant understanding of who Todd is.

I always assumed this. That and maybe a bit of physiological shit in Turpin's head. Like he didn't Want this guy to be Barker and come back to ruin his long con plan to marry the girl he raised.

@@shannonsteven3982 actually studies show that power hungry and egotistical people Typically only remember people and details they deem important. I forget the exact hypocritical scenario the researchers gave to summarize their findings but basically take Donald Trump, let's say that he doesn't have a person driver and instead hires a cab driver for the day, the driver takes him to an important meeting during that time let's say the driver swaps with another driver from the company for whatever reason, Trump leaves the meeting, enters the cab and instructs the driver to take him to the next destination, Trump doesn't notice this isn't his original driver. The reason being that the cab driver is only a temporary tool in Trump's mind, he doesn't need to know *WHO* the driver is nor does he care, he only needs to know he has someone to take him wherever he needs to go for the day and he'll probably never see him again so why bother remembering any details about him?

IT's not like now where everyone has photos of various people and we can recognize hundreds of people we don't know personally . The judge has probably had thousands of men before him and it wasn't like he expected Todd to ever make it back to London.

I agree it is a cinematic masterpiece

This 17 min video begs to differ

Ugh!

@@ashtonoak4370 :(

@@ashtonoak4370 90% of Cinemasins videos are them just shouting at the scren NOT actual critique of the film. Let me look at the first 10 sins in order: 1. Logo - He couldn't sin the length since the WB logo was shorter than his logo is so he sinned it for something NOT related to the film. 2. Narration - This isn't a continuity or sin of the film it's a method of delivering story beats to the audience that would otherwise get lost in a visual medium. 3. Raining Blood - Not a sin of the film, he's pointing out a story telling nuance to get the dark tone across. 4. Same exact sin as before of sinning a visual medium for having a bit of beautiful and intriguing visuals. 5. Calling the Bosprit of a ship a 'penus' for a joke. 6. He is correct Sweeny Todd takes place in 1845-ish and Tower Bridge wasn't started until 1886. 7. Pop culture reference to another film not related to this one. 8. Complains about an exposition song expositing where the singer has been all because he has to mentally plot out the course. Not a sin of the film more like a sin of him over complicating the scene. 9. Sinning Depp being in a Burton flick despite the fact that these two work amazing together. Same with Helena the three of them are a marvel in gothic film making. 10. Jeremy doesn't even make sense here, Anthonies lack of understanding is 100% why he has wide eyes of a summer child.... So in the first 10 sins there was 1 actual sin and a bunch of fluff filler sins. Because I want to prove how much of this is padding I will come back after finishing the video and count all the sins that are ACTUAL sins and how long the video would be if it was just sins. No film is without sin but cinemasins videos are 99% sin free

These were their first singing roles as well right?

@@alldayagain Carter was singing in Corpse Bride as well, I believe.

my friends was surprisingly good, id say they are great singers if a little basic in technique

@@tralala688 there was a fact in the kill count about this movie where I think it was one of their first singing roles, maybe Johnny depp? Or something about how they recorded a lot of it to play over them acting.

100%. They definitely acted their asses off. All involved, really!!

I just realised that it isn't the same movie.

Nice!

Spot on!

Plus they both cut hair.

I've often wondered if it just me noticing this or if it was mere thinking too deeply on it.

I know right? I was like dude, you missed one! One sin for lack of consistency! *Ding*

Guess wives get a pass.

@@davidmcgill1000 "Nepotism with the director" *Ding*

I mean it is super common for Directors/Writers to cast their wives in their things. So maybe that’s why he didn’t mention it🤷🏻‍♀️

When my mom watched the movie for the first time and saw him grab Johanna thinking she was a guy. She began to scream "No way, they really gonna kill her off!?" I had to calm her and say just watch.

@@theoneeyedartist3253 I know the feeling but my mom don’t watch movies like this and I’m like you don’t even give it a chance

It's a difficult song but not that difficult, you just have to find the right spots to quickly inhale. I love singing this song because it is challenging like that

His response was "Don't"

Agree. That song should’ve gotten at least one sin off.

RIP Angela Lansbury. I loved her as Mrs. Lovett.

Laughs in "Not Getting Married" xD

Not quite, he says she was virtuous too, speaking about her character.

@@mementopluvia2779 Right. So she's three character traits. Young, beautiful and virtuous. She's not a character, she's a three second character sheet.

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The end where he’s about to run away with Johanna and she’s obviously depressed and sad because she can’t outrun her demons and he just brushes it off comes to mind. These women were just going from abuser to abuser.

Well, that about covers what was required at that time. It’s not like people got to know each other, a man liked a pretty face and her parents decided if they would court or if she had been promised without her knowledge. Poor people knew each other from childhood and had the best chance of knowing their partner.

Some of the lyrics are so fucking clever that it makes me sick - deffo should have removed a sin!!

That requires having taste. Cinema sins is just about nitpicking

@@socialmoon fair BUT, they removed sins from both West Side Story movies for Sondheim. just saying...i guess they don't like this one. shame

The biggest sin this movie committed was cutting all of the AMAZING choral vocals. How can you have Sweeney Todd without anyone asking us to ATTEND THE TALE OF SWEENEY TODD. It’s infuriating!

@@IreneWY no cinemasins is about making jokes under the guise of a "review"

Anthony is just "in love" with her face, and everything else about is just blanks he filled in with his imagination. Johanna has just never known a male her own age and is desperate to get out of captivity, she doesn't really NEED to know him. He's just a nice, good looking guy who's able to get her out and seems like he won't rape her.

Kinda missed opportunity to go: Snape, Snape, Severus Snape… Still funny tho 😂

@@foxsmile5860 Given the context of his character in this one....more like Severus R4pe.

This SENT me too!!

How is this the way I found out the great Dame Angela Lansbury passed away?

@@Movies123Online I don’t know. It was all over the news, pretty hard to miss.

@@ECKohns Lol, all over your local news maybe

RIP, to a real one.

@@ctakitimu The entire Western World was made aware, as soon as it was formally announced, you plum!

aww so cute

*dark wizards Pettigrew was a Gryffindor.

Probably cast for the same reasons

Grindlewald did not attend Hogwarts

Where was Voldemort??

You’re right, no Voldemort, but rather two Grindelwalds! (I get my Elder Wand holders confused sometimes.)

I don't understand what you mean. You know he didn't choose to leave right? I ask because I think I didn't read your comment right

I didn't know it was a musical going in. That was a surprise.

Epiphany is an AMAZING song, with how the tone keeps switching and how Todd is RAPIDLY diving into insanity.

@@spartakip9507 My mum saw it in the cinema (I was too young at the time) and she didn't know it was a musical either

@@sircatsmeow2886 Same! I sung Epiphany for my music GCSE (final exams) and got 30/30 for performance, vocals and timing. It's definitely one of the best songs for me

The joy I feel right now☺️☺️☺️

Let’s count ‘em - I think it’s four. Alan Rickman, Timothy Spall, Jamie Campbell Bower, Helena Bonham Carter. Johnny Depp counts if you include Fantastic Beasts.

@@psifla99 Yes, I'm counting Depp

This is exactly how I feel.

Dude same.

To be fair, literally every Burton movie has the exact same casting.

Timothy Spall is good in everything.

I would have to agree, I always thought it was kinda beautiful too because they got to be together in death in a way. I also think it's important to point out that if he wasn't so focused on revenge this might have gone differently.

Its Cinema sins for a reason... all the more reason to sin it because the movie skipped over things from the play.. they could have added it to make the plot less holed but didnt XD

@@v.crowley I mean, I think it could have been sinned more due to the discrepancies

Agree completely, 100% with what you say here!!!

there were jokes in the movie that I noticed and liked, so I bet I would have liked more.

We all have to start somewhere.

001 🙂

Well remember that there were more songs in the stage version versus the movie.

I think that’s the point of the movie - Anthony’s perception of love is flawed, Johanna just wants a way out. The indication is that while they will survive, neither will be happy.

stfu it is indeed great

Most adaptations just redo what you see in the play. That most of the time brings Movie viewers out of the film because there are many strange things that happen that Theater goers accept and can move past. Things such as the whole town singing about a story in which it is doubtful that most actually knew. Or random dance sequences. While I personally love that type of thing in musicals, it does not seem to make sense when it come to this kind of film. The stage version needs to be big and grandiose in spectacle to reach the back seats, where as the loudness and size of a movie makes it so everyone can hear well, and see well. So is it sad that they took out certain events in the play, yes. However I'd rather have my movie take itself a little more seriously, and keep most of the music to just banter between a couple people/an inner monolog. So to me as both a movie goer and a theater goer, I appreciate the ability to separate the two mediums and while still keeping faithful to the overall story and tone. That makes this adaptation one of the best, if not the best musical films. Have a good day!

The foolishness line was my biggest complaint. I wanted to know what he was actually arrested for

interesting theory. He came back for something. Was it to see if they were still alive? I don't remember

@@me5197 I think he wanted to reunite with his family. I'm not sure if I've got this right, but he has a line like "15 years dreaming of my wife + child..."

same lol she pulled out a case of razors (yes, like when lovett shows sweeney his own razors) and i immediately asked her if i was going to be turned into a pie lol

@@possums154 what did she say?

I'm paraphrasing here but I've always like this exchange: Anthony: We run away and all our ghosts disappear. Johanna: No, Anthony. They never go away. Because it's true. Our ghosts from our past never disappear.

@@meginmd It's a TERRIFIC exchange. My favourite in the movie. A great contrast of Anthony’s naïveté and the damage done to Johanna, and an implication that their elopement will not end well.

Yeah, I think this Sins video is taking a lot of the Johanna/Anthony plot too much at face value, when I think it's supposed to be clear that Anthony is too naive and romantic for the world he's in (which, somehow, KEEPS WORKING for him, at if he's in a completely different musical than the rest of the characters), and Johanna is desperate enough to cling to any possibility of escape.

Maybe not Johnny could have been giving a wink and nod to the audience

@@homelesshannah50 I don't think you understand what I meant. That's precisely what I was saying.

@@johnroscoe2406 Oh ok and I truly hope that's true.

Try into the woods (BROADWAY VERSION, NOT THE MOVIE) and falsettos

Well, in all fairness, there is only that one reference to the protagonist giving his girlfriend a scar in "Tonight We are Young." I just now went and listened to it again with lyrics.

@@messinalyle4030 But there is a lot more to it than that. The entire intro is playing out as a clue. He asks for a minute to get his story strait, starts by talking as if to someone else on the situation, mentions her discussing the situation that took place months ago with "some sunglasses" inferring an investigative authority figure, then turns the perspective toward her, recognizes she has been trying to forget it, recognizes her drinking while doing so in contrast to "subtle things" such as the "holes in his apologies" and tries to convince her once she is drunk enough to feel vulnerable he can be there for her. The rest of the song is him selling the great times they can have if they forget their troubles, presumedly while she is in this smashed state. He also hints at her having someone else but him still hopeing they can "find new ways of falling apart" only to cut this short when their friends arrive. Evidence she has moved on but he is still trying to pressure her to be close but also knows he shouldn't and only does so when they are alone. He further mentions the "moon being on his side" so that "there is no reason to run" and the "angels never arriving but him hearing the chior." This is more interpretive but could be a good hint he is hetting away with what he did to her. Again an interpretative stanza but two ways to do so would be more metaphorical for him being recognized for what he did but not facing full repercussions or a more direct one. The mention of not needing to run because the moon is on his side could be recognition that the night is dark so he can hide and the angels being police with their choir being the sirens her can hear nearby while lying low. Considering the intro frames him in a bar seeing his gf or ex gf talking to a possible authority figure about the domestic abuse he committed agaisnt her, it isn't hard to believe he could be avoiding an arrest at toward the end of the song. Regaurdless of this specfifx part; overall it is still pretty indicative of a manipulative and toxic relationship. It is done very quickly but expertly. Especially if you are someone who helps people in these situations or a past victim like myself; this shows the kinds of red flags that will be all too familiar. This is a great example of subtle artistic work and that's really the wpoint of these kind of songs. They purposely hide contrasting themes to how the melody makes you feel that will be obvious when analyzed but arn't no noticeable just enjoying the music.

Another good example is Pumped Up Kicks. A fun upbeat tune, but the lyrics are actually about school shootings. It's a way to grab the listeners attention, and confront them with something that is hard to face.

People hate it when I do it with that with "Hallelujah" song. It's not very godly or inspirational when you decipher the lyrics.

@@MartinFinnerup Yes, I fell in love with the upbeat tune! Then, I listened to the lyrics. Just like Every Breath you take and Hallelujah.

I googled and it says at least two months, more if the wind is uncooperative.

Wow wow wow wow....... Wow.

I love Johnny's voice is so deep and melodic, fuck Jeremy

Lmao there's no explanation, except that it was specifically to subvert our expectations

Lmao the bathing costume

meat pie though?