everything wrong with the recon scope coming up next

Yeah I mean I like the way it works but its just so, god damn displeasing to look at to where I don't care even if it gives me perfect aim, I ain't fucking putting it on my damn gun

It's ugly, it's bulky and it doesn't fit any weapon at all. Hell, I made this comment years ago on a different video and channel, so I'm glad we all agree it looks bad!

I can kind of see it fitting the Institute Rifle, and just barely the laser rifle but yeah still a huge yeesh. I'm not even sure the technology on it makes sense artwise, in the Fallout universe they never figured out conductors like we did, thus no mobile phones, flat screen tvs, nor nice little computers. Almost feel like it should look worse & bigger for having the tagging functionality.

Do you have a good mod that replaces it? I don't know of any but I'd love one

Oh God the wanderer trailer? I fucking loved that trailer cause it looked awesome my day was fucking ruined when I found out there was no m14 to be found...

They also had a Galil and M1 Carbine in the opening cinematic yet couldn’t be bothered to add them either

@@callsigncoyote7931 most likely due to the fact that this game released well before it should have. They had originally planned for it to be Co-op so I wouldn't be surprised they decided to cut numerous resources to features. Weapons/armor/locations wtc

@@ryanglacier30 Man, co-op would've been worth the delay, especially if it meant Fo76 wouldn't be full multiplayer.

@@jacklennox2358 You're not wrong it's most likely the reason for their very half added base building. There was meant to be much more there. I'd have wanted it to be strictly 2 player co-op you or your partner replaces the companion you would have had otherwise. But they backed down. Most likely due to consoles

A German Rifle

Which country?

@@ubcroel4022 Norway, G3 is completely retired by now though

​@@ubcroel4022 The German Bundeswehr used it as the service rifle during the cold war. It was phased out by the G36.

Might be because the Bethesda version looks like a teenager welded it together in a garage for a high school project. Seriously. The gun has obvious and massive weld-lines.

likely an attempt at creating a AK/M16 style of weapon system. but with no interest in making it work.

Honestly that’s the combat rifle’s worst sin, being a copy-paste of the combat shotgun

@@fornodes2704 I agree with this even as a fan of it and the Assault Rifle.

That's pretty much exactly how that went

@@TheSimmr001 Interestingly, the unique effect that gives that one special combat rifle a 5.56mm chambering from the Far Harbor DLC is called "M4 Carbine"

To be fair, at least it was recognizable enough to see that they were going for a BAR. My only major gripe with the BAR and the Battle Rifle/This Machine (M1 Garand) use .308 rounds when they should be using .30-06 rounds.

​@@nicholascauton9648tbf it probably wouldn't have made sense to make them shoot their own rounds when both don't don't really have a reason to gameplay-wise

​@@nicholascauton9648it's close enough for gameplay purposes

@@harveyknguyen which I also never understood that either. .44 Special is in New Vegas. Have you seen anyone use it?

@@michaelpowers671 oh ok so turns out .44 Spl and .38 Spl (which is also in the game?) just run the condition down slower

Israelis used Mauser 98s converted from 7.92 Mauser to 7.62 NATO for a time.

@@judsongaiden9878 I personally HAVE an Israeli 1919 rechambered for 7.62x51. That's what inspired my comment. But converting bolt actions is particularly simple. Minimal feed system adjustments needed.

@@1lovesoni Rawk!

I thought it was the addiction sound effect?

@@dimsum3329 It sounds like the karma one. Pretty sure addiction is slightly different.

@@Ryan-vd8xl Addiction is a bit louder and faster. A weird whoosh.

@@dimsum3329 It's the lost karma sound, specifically the New Vegas sound.

@@Ryan-vd8xl I laugh every times that sound plays as the same times he bashes the poor gun 😂

Nah, cause even if the combat rifle can be chambered in 308, it still wouldn't work because the bullets shown in the reload are too big, those are 30-06 bullets.

I noticed that the ejection port on combat shotgun is smaller than the shells are, and the shells tend to eject misaligned with the ejection port

Indeed! 😅

Wasn’t the Monitor made in the 20s and 30s? I thought I read somewhere that it was used by one of the men that killed Bonnie and Clyde but I could be wrong.

Colt monitor first introduced in 1925. Yes it was one of the weapons used during the final showdown with Bonnie and Clyde

Man thats so cool, this seems like one of the guys in obsidian was a gun nut and tried to fit everything he could in that broken engine

FAL is lore friendly as it's in Fallout 2

BAR is more lore friendly because in alternate history of fallout ythey didn't have time to develop new weapons because they were quick to drop the atomic bombs. And all weapons in Fallout 4 looks primitive what post apocalyptic world deserves. Easy to make, easy to maintain, easy to repair and guns can eat shitty ammo. Firearms from WWI, WWII, revolvers, lever actions perfectly fits in the game.

@@user-zx9cf6xb4q That's not really true. 132 years past between WW2 and the bomb dropping in the Fallout Universe. Fallout would have seen similar weapons to ours being developed till roughly the 2000's when in the Fallout Universe they were making headway with laser weapons technology. Also as far as "cannon" games no real mentions of American conflict from WW2 till the Cino-American war is rarely mentioned meaning there could have been peace for 100 years meaning weapons development would have been much slower.

@@brothatscrazy3418I think the Cold War era guns would be the perfect middle ground for Fallout. They’re not too obsolete even for Fallout universe’s alt history approach, but also not too modern, so that it doesn’t neglect the retro-futuristic aesthetic of Fallout. I’d love to see all the early HK’s, Galils, M16’s and such in the next Fallout game (if I actually live to see it lmao)

@@seanwallcroft6272 I agree, I think seeing the more "futuristic" guns from that time period just lends a better aesthetic. Weapons like the G11, Land of Jackhammer, H&K Caws and etc are great examples of cold war weapons tgat felt futuristic.

That could also explain why the Security had old Colt revolvers instead of semi-autos

@@tikalthewhimsicott2736 or 357mag is better

Isn’t that rifle bugged?

I mean that BAR is Basically a Full Auto 30 06 Dispenser, nothing can withstand that

@@rettichdergeile9361 except the ghost people

I would've been fine with this. Natty G's still using old but reliable stuff due to issues with logistics. F3 was fine in this regard with the prevalence of FAL/G3 hybrids chambered in 5.56x45mm. But then came F4 and for some reason the Commonwealth National Guard got sets of new T-60 power armor because "rool ov kewl" in the prewar prologue, and the prevalence of pipe weapons in master locked military safes inside 200+ year old sealed bunkers, and the asinine "standard issue" weapons that would've been outdated at the end of WWII. Really. T-60 should've been a Brotherhood of Steel exclusive power armor. Made as replacement upgrades for aging T-45s they had. While the prewar prologue National Guard should've been using T-45 instead. Pipe weapons should be removed from any prewar military installation loot tables. And conventional ballistic firearm design (not including laser, plasma, cryo, and the like) should be completely scrapped and replaced with realistic designs. There'd be 2 prevailing design philosophies. Prewar and postwar. Prewar is basically carbon copies of ours. With some upgrades and additions to our current ones to portray 2070's weapons. Really old prewar weapons for example would be Korean to WWI weapons. Modern 2070's prewar weapons would be really rugged, metal reinforced M16s with ACOGs or Mk19's with carry handles for power armor. Postwar would be prewar weapons redesigned to be as easy to manufacture in the post apocalypse but still be reliable and useable as possible. An example would be an M16 with simply made wood furniture, no dust cover, no T-handle, no carry handle, no forward assist, simple notch and post sights, straight magazines, semi automatic by default, and a long screw on the bolt to act as the charging handle.

Fallouts navy kept the m16 70 odd years after the rest of the coubtry moved to newer guns so yes this happens even in fallout

@@demonic_myst4503 some things never change

I interpreted the Combat Rifle as an older gun that was chambered for .45 and issued to the police departments and national guard depots to violently repress Protests and Resource Riots.

this "gun" the combat rifle would compare to the NG having smooth bore brown bess rifles on storrage in case of emergency. the "combat rifle" is by all means obsolete even by fallout timeline standard as the divergens happens in the late 1950´es when something like the FN-Fal, the CETME-L, the AKM, the G3, and even the first incarnations of the M16 does exist, other games in the fallout series especially prior to fallout 3 has more "modern" assault rifles SMG´s MG´s in their arsenals. even in fallout 2 they have P90 PDW´s. the MP5-sd exist in fallout tactics, the G3 in 5.56x45 exist in fallout 3, the XM-117e2 exist in New Vegas.

It actually isn't based on the G3 -- Rather, it's based more on the HK33, which is the G3's 5.56 younger brother that was somewhat successful.

But the combat rifle isn’t even a rifle caliber weapon as it uses the .45 ACP cartridge.

@@ryanlytle2214 it is supposed to be a rifle caliber weapon but for what l'd assume to be beth's shitty game balance they made it use 45

For most combat infantry full-auto is as much of a liability as it is a benefit. You can beat armor a couple different ways: velocity, mass or explosives. IRL I think the future leans towards a high velocity, low recoil round in like a 3 round burst configuration.

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor real life military doesnt like burst either, they just use semi over it, and I like your name, good to see another venture bros viewer

@@etanb1 I'm always happy when somebody gets the reference. The nice thing about burst fire guns is that they're almost always select-fire so if you prefer you can shoot semi-auto. A gun I like in particular is the Russian AN-94 with its super high cyclic rate 2 round burst.

So true

I just call them an LMG and try to ignore the ammo.

It’s trans

@@clownworld4655 Nah most of us are pretty much settled on what we want to be lol.

in their defense, they don’t typically expect for people to go frame by frame and analyse this shit like they’re solving a fucking murder

Also the BAR mag kinda sucks.

Making it semi-auto only doesn't really save any weight, in fact it might make the gun slightly heavier. The reason they kept the M1 instead of adopting the BAR is because the BAR was almost 50% heavier (13.75 lbs vs 9.5 lbs)

Im thinking the exact opposite, lol

I don't know why (maybe because i'm ppsh fan), but i, for some reason really like combat rifle (the only thing i hate is the fucking caliber, like wtf?!).

I have some nice attachments from the attachments pack and found an incendiary one so made it look a bit better and gave it to my companion. It's been really good for them. I called it the Boston Cremater. 😅

I am playing the vanilla version on ps4 right now and i don't get why everyone complain,it's still a solid game and i never encountered a bug in my 60 hours of gameplay

@@sauronmauron6965 maybe you should go and see why people do not like this game. People hate Fallout 4 for a lot of different reasons, the many retcons to the lore, both in the game itself and the series in general, the god-awful storytelling, the lackluster factions, the lack of choice, barebones RPG mechanics, removal of traits, the entire Concord section in how it ruined the importance of power armor, and how it made deathclaws a complete joke.

@@trevargrisham35 Spot on. While playing the game with mods i realize everytime I react with something in base game, let it be a companions BROKEN FUCKING PATHFINDING or the story telling i realize how much of an actual dogshit the vanilla game is

@@trevargrisham35 I'm a no mutants allowed guy who loves fallout 1, 2 and tactics. Hate 3, love NV and I'm okay with Fallout 4. I think people shit on it unnecessarily. Yeah I want an obsidian/black isle style fallout but fallout 4 is a really really good game. Way better than fallout 3 imo. All the things you said aren't a big deal. If the series permanently stayed with those changes it would be but for fallout 4 as a stand alone game with those problems isn't a big deal at all to me. I have a lot of fun on the game. It's very enjoyable for me vanilla.

@sauron mauron - Because *nothing* is ever good enough, because some people are miserable, and because some people just like to b*tch. LOL that's a joke...kinda. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for a hardcore fan of the FO series to dislike the direction of 4. Trevar made a pretty nice list tbh...just about covers it. I agree the vanilla game isn't trash...but it's certainly different, and not all of that "different" was good. P.S. 60 hours without a crash is nothing. Give it some time rookie. Everyone takes a Bethesda break...

Same :/

you could tolerate THIS more than the Deliverer?!

The Deliverer was way too small to pack a punch that big.

@@styxriverr5237 Yeah plus it was pretty pointless to have since the regular 10mm pistol does its job well.

@@AdamOwenBrowning You had to do the most cringe questline to get the deliverer

The gun in the trailer is a m14

Jet is hell of a drug...

The assault rifle was designed to have something that would look good while wearing power armor. Thankfully, if you install an assault rifle mod like the G3, HOWA, or Chinese assault rifle, most gunners will carry those instead, and the assault rifle (which I took a mod to rename “machine gun” and rightfully so, it’s modeled after the Lewis Gun) becomes a much more rare appearance. Even Kellogg carries an mod-supplemented AR in his memory cutscene. In mine he entered the room with a HOWA rifle. Was stoked, he looked much cooler carrying something practical.

That mod is awesome as well as pistol grip combat rifle.. Another underrated mod

Time stamp?

@@John-Doe-Yo at 0:35

*Chinese AK

The Light Machine Gun, Automatic Rifle, and M1 Garand in New Vegas are the best rifles in Fallout.

Not to be rude but you're incorrect. Bethesda actually has the right idea here in FO4. I mean for gods sake the TRANSISTOR was never invented in the original Fallout games. It isn't just "the future with a 1950s retroaethestic", even the first games were "1950s with future aesthetic".

@@xX_Pokeman_Xx The transistor was never invented, but we see examples of computers and technology that far surpass our own technology by decades. Full 3D holographic maps, advanced AI... Hell, Fallout 2 literally had an AI called Skynet that gained self awareness, same with 3. Point is, Bethesda, instead of leaning into the futuristic parts more seems to think everything needs to look like it's fresh out of some steampunk 50s fantasy. It doesn't, it looks ridiculous and doesn't blend with the original games at all.

​@@xX_Pokeman_Xx The original theming of Fallout was 50's retrofuturism with a few mixes of other themes like 80's cyberpunk and 90's gothic. Bethesda went futuristic but full on 50's aaesthetic. Note I didn't say retrofuturism as that is _what that era thinks the future looks like._ Us thinking about what the future is but giving it a 50s aesthetic is not the same as a person from the 50s thinking what the future looks like. The Jetsons cartoon is a good example of retrofuturism designs.

@@jacklennox2358 But it doesn't? Like, yeah, okay, the laser musket kind of fits your description, but that's also made of actual junk and is the pipe equivalent for laser weapons. Easily manufactured with random ass parts you have laying around, in tune with survivors living in a world where properly manufactured weapons is slowly becoming a luxury. I suppose there's also the railroad but their signature weapon has also shown up in other games so it's not exactly a fair criticism to say that they're at fault for making the game look like a steampunk fantasy. I mean, if anything, the Valve Regional Headquarters should immediately disprove your claims. That thing looks like a building that came out of the Jetsons.

@@xX_Pokeman_Xx I think you're both wrong. I've heard that that's a misconception, and that the transistor WAS invented in-lore, just later.

The FAL is also lore friendly, having been seen in Fallout 2. And since it was the Canadian service rifle for a good time, you could make lore for the weapon around the United States' annexation of Canada.

@@trentonb99 The FAL was not just Canadian service rifle, it was pretty much everyone's service rifle, almost all of the democratic countries used the FAL as a service rifle. That is why it is nicknamed the right arm of the free world.

Also I think Ian over on Forgotten Weapons mentioned that the Belgians ran the BAR for a good number of years after we stopped. There's also "modern" BARs made by various small gun makers I think Kentucky Ballistics has one called an HCar.

@@jamesdevore3022 It's actually a popular weapon to hunt with nowadays, due to it's great accuracy, reliability, and the strength of the 30-06 combined with the barrel length. While outdated, it's definitely the most viable weapon that could be used in modern combat from the pre 1920's era, minus the Maxim of course.

@@jamesdevore3022 I helped my grandpa build a parts-kit Model D many years ago, and I treasure it. He had originally seriel'd and built the receiver just weeks before the registry closed, but didn't finish it until I was a teenager. It was my first automatic, that he transferred to me when I turned 21.

funny thing is the AK-112 is a real rifle now days

@@Matt-md5yt but in a less fallout-y sense

@@Matt-md5yt the AK-12 is real, not 112 lol.

Yeah wish someone can make that mod

@@majorstrelok1754 Unfortunately, I have no modding experience, so I'm out of the running.

That would be a way better idea for an AR. a beltfed stoner would look amazing while still technically being an assault rifle. Also the real Stoner had an upside down magwelk config. was because it was way better shooting prone with it

@@smartfella7914 So _that's_ what the upside down magwell was for! That's bugged me for years lol

this, plus the combat shotgun and the combat rifle are supposed to be the same gun. 5.56x45mm and the most common 2.75in 12 guage shells are about the same length so they could share a common magwell. 5.56 has about 6 times the pressure of a 12 guage so if the receive could take 5.56 it could take 12 gauge. the bolt, extractor, and barrel would have to be changed, both because of the greater diameter of 12 guage and the fact that it's a rimmed casing.

I think they realized their mistake too late because in Far Harbor there's a legendary combat rifle that uses 5.56 by default.

Right? There is absolutely no reason lore wise for this thing to exist. Need a combat rifle? Make it in 5.56, or 7.62x39. Need a small caliber weapon? Use the Grease Gun.

I like to think that the Assuslt rifle was suppose to only be used by power armor units. That and I think I've heard somewhere that it was originally going to be a heavy machine gun.

@@Ryan.2 It definitely looks more like a weapon that would have been "Power Armor Only" when it was first conceptualized.

It's amazing to me how one person can produce something of such a high quality, just out of shear love for the game. While a team of 100's of people can barely produce something with half of the quality.

@Enthusiastic Aizawa Bethesda sucks no matter what you say. They had time and they blew it.

@Enthusiastic Aizawa all game companies in southeast Asia have all the same issues and deadlines to meet because they are also businesses, except they don't suck.

⁠@Enthusiastic Aizawa no it’s like 80% their fault and 20% cuts, deadlines and other stuff to blame, these guys did the bare minimum of work

With the "assault rifle" at least they could say they were design choices, terrible ones, but still deliberate. The combat rifle is literally not finished.

Exactly. Such a cool, complex universe that they water down.

Settlement mode can be fun.

The problem is that the developers of Fallout have barely any firearms knowledge and probably didn't know this. In the Fallout 3 canon it's established that the US uses the R91 as it's ballistic service rifle and the R91 is clearly a CETME/HK roller delayed blowback family rifle. On top of that they chambered the R91 in 5.56 which means that the US, instead of adopting the homegrown AR-15, actually use a HK33/CETME-L style of rifle. It would have made much more sense for them to go with the alternate universe "what if the FAL won" scenario but they didn't.

Sad part it is the best overall gun base game before dlc and mods

People compare this gun to the bar but imo it looks more like the assault rifle from og fallout

Power armor is the exact reason the assault rifle is the way it is. That and the art team were obviously not firearm people so they just mixed and matched some parts.

No that's a stupid reason fallout 4 fucking hates guns using the same ammo. 45 ACP is like the ammo that has multiple guns use it by default and it's like 4. Even the DLC preferred to add more ammo types over use the existing AMO types it's so stupid. No in development the assault rifle was going to use 50 BMG and be power armor only, but they decided not to have it be power armor only so they changed it from 50 BMG to 5.56 and bumped the combat rifle down from 5.56 to 45 ACP. Seriously the only gun that can even use 50 BMG in unmoded fallout 4 is the hunting rifle rechambered into it, no gun inaitly fires it.

The thing is. With how _Bethesda_ wrote _their_ lore, the US was the dominant superpower until the nukes hit in 2077. So the US having these odd and subpar performing last ditch weapons doesn't make sense.

@@DJWeapon8 knowing bethesda they probably just throw a random bs card, like the pre war magazine that explain how to make pipe guns that they made to explain why theres pipe guns on safes and dead pre war skeletons

*shotgun

Yeah we screwed the pooch in that one thanks to some "Testing"

Adopting the M14 instead of the FAL was one of the biggest mistakes the US military ever made

@@Fulcrox "Hey, you know the BAR? Let's make it lighter, so that the 17 year olds we draft get sent flying by the recoil." - US Army

@@supergoodadvice853 oof