100% agree . Gameplay gets boring. Everyone is playing the same style. Never played again a Serve & Volley Player.....

The wide servers are what completely ruined it for me, im sticking to offline games now.

I loved topspin 4, actually only stoppes playing it on xbox when 2k25 was released. At first I thought yes they have got this right and I was going to be happy but I was wrong. I agree with everthing you said. I loved the ability to play defensively in topspin4 and have the chance to beat the power hitters through excellent timing and tactical shots. 2k25 has taken this away, particularly with Sharapova, Williams and now even Sinner. Power attribute is overly rated and it is simply not possible to beat an average or above average player who just play power with any of these characters and this combined with the out wide serve from hell is just unplayable 95% of the time. I eventually just stopped trying online and leave the matches if these are my opponents. Secondly another problem is Agassi, the slow short angled shots are not played in real tennis and if they were the opponent would just blast them away down the line for a winner.... but guess what even with the overrated power in this game it suddenly fails to work in this scenario and Agassi just hits another slow short angle to the other side or he blasts one down the line powerfully even though he has no power.....😂 so frustrating. Lastly i'd say I'm a pretty good topspin 4 and 5 player and I only really lose to those power characters or much better gamers, but I am convinced theres hacking/cheating and boosting in this game! Players can run faster and hit shots that I just cannot hit and I have been playing the gameplay since 2008, its definitely not me - Im a decent player and some of these players shots are just not possible with the attributes they have. It almost feels like theres some sort bug/boost/hack where ypur opponent boosts their attributes and nulls yours, everything gets a little worse, less width, less power and more mistakes. I hate it now and will probably go back to my Jankovic, Roddick and Serena matches on topspin4 😂 Thanks for the video.

Completely agree. This should be a must to watch before buying the game

Slice is pretty much the only way I can effectively return the wide serve. It doesn't always work but it gives me a chance to get into the point. I like mixing up my serves, been having alot of success with kick serves tbh. I think everyone is expecting wide slice so it catches a few players out.

The game is fun at first, but it gets old super fast. It doesn't have enough depth to keep you engaged for more than a week or so.

I completely agree, at first the gameplay was fun but it’s gotten boring very fast. The wide serving on every point as you mentioned is extremely frustrating especially when standing in a good position to take on the wide serve. Seeing people full power shot down the line over the high part of the net after a cross court low slice is hilarious. A lot of things don’t make sense, I know they said they are working on the wide serves but for it to not be addressed in the first major patch was extremely disappointing.

Great video that outwide serving and serving in general is ridiculous ....why mess up a good thing ....Topspin4 was just perfect !!!!!

Wide serve abuse is so lame in this game, people would rather win so bad than have a good match, people are strange. Are we sure people don't cheat in the game?! I've had people quit on me in a ranked match and I don't get the win but if I quit a match then it counts as a loss

love your tennis videos. i agree with you, imagine in 2024 2k can't make the ball bounce differently on clay and grass surfaces!!!

You can face a player with 30 stats, and he plays like a 80 stats and beat you easy.. Very STRANGE, i think already a lot of cheater use a BOOST Only good thing is Topspin are animations.

I echo the same feelings. I am sure the people who adore TopSpin gameplay are the people who don't watch a lot of tennis and who don't play Tennis regularly. Full Ace Tennis Simulator and Tennis Elbow 4 are the best so far. TieBreak looks promising but still a lot of work left to make it feel lot more realistic.

Amazing video my boi! Love your content and editing! What editing software do you use? Your vids are so high quality

at 8:10 in the video you can see an example of bad gameplay. that should clearly be a winner but for some magic reason the opponent can run like sonic

Still the only playable tennis game in the modern era. All the alternatives are even worse!

Everything you said 👍🏾. I will add that slice shot doesn’t have that outside curve to it on either forehead and backhand side. However, the poison slice skill set has worked for me at times. Still, I’m disappointed in the title. Spent way to much money on this💸💸💸😞. Now I’m waiting for Tiebreak Tennis to save me. Man if Tennis elbow had better graphics, 2k probably would not have bothered with this game. Money pit 🎾⤵️🕳️

I've been playing Smash Court Tennis 3 on the PSP recently and it's insane how a game made in 2007 has better animations and more varied styles than this game 😂

great review...since this review, the latest patch finally addressed some things well. THE FIRST one that actually improved gameplay and what you're talking about. It's a decent playing game now, don't you think? THEY NEED TO ADD GAME MODES like tournaments, etc. It's pathetic...all I play is occasional exhibition matches or the my career....online was a joke, like you said...not sure if it has improved any.

70 winners and 1 unforced error in my last matcht of 13 games total, this is a sci-fi game not a tennis game, too much unrealistic

As someone who recreationally plays tennis for over a decade, this feels nothing like tennis. Tennis elbow has much more of the game's essence in it's few GBs if even that much.

When tiebreak comes out on console full game I’d love to see a comparison video TB and 2k with your opinion on the matter you seem an experts more than I ever be 😂 bought 2k and got a bit tired as everyone online use the same players, not sure if TB is worth it but at least they have the players 😂

Gotta thank 2K for the free trial because if I wanted to get the game now I'll probably wait and get it when TB comes out. Yes there's things done well but at the moment it feels super unbalanced and ball physics are off. Plus content is a joke. I'll eventually get it but they managed to kill my hype I had since this game was announced

Well now I must ask what your opinion on Top Spin 4 is/was. Just to get my thoughts right before buying the last installment of the series.

Well i agree with you this game is lack of content, and i agree the licensed player is a joke and the career mode is boring, but the gameplay is good. First of all i have in the 2k tour 150 wins and and around 20 loses... It is true that people use the wide serve meta, but i beat those kind of player too.... I agree that if you guess the direction of the serve, your shot should be more precise and strong, but it is possible to beat them. Second, not all of them, including me playing only with flat power shot, actually, control shots are more effective if you use them correctly. Also it's difficult to return good ball from the feet and it is matter where you stand to take a shot. Taking the ball early also have an advantage. Plus they fixed the world tour, you won't play against 30 level anymore if you are 2, maximum 10 level above you. But i do agree that the game needs more updates and frequently. But it's definitely the best tennis game right now ( i use console so I don't have tennis elbow or the other one). Tiebreak is a game that we should put an eye on.

I love and hate this game. You play an awesome approach shot. You follow into net, and by rights your volley into the open court should be assured, as it would be in life. But no! The 2K committee decided your first volley actually goes within reach of your opponent! But wait theres more! They now play a shot that is virtually impossible. Somehow passing you with a crazy angle, EVEN THOUGH you read it right and moved in thst direction. No! You didn't reach the ball. You lose. Sorry! Gotchya. You thought you were gonna break serve? Aha! Denied.

Enjoy all your videos. You put a lot of time into them. I was so pumped for Topspin and preordered it. I stopped playing after a week. I'm a huge tennis fan and play tennis myself. I can't put my finger on it but the gameplay was not fun for me at all. The developers cut so many corners on this game. Player models and roster are a joke. Sampras and Alcaraz look terrible.

Absolutely agree.

I loved the Top Spin series but i just couldnt bring myself to buy 2k25, Such little content for such little content and a game stuck in 2014 not 2024. The problem Topspin has is its fans will defend it to the hilt and think everything is amazing. The series cannot get better with these kind of fans.

I was about to buy this. What would ppl suggest is the best tennis game for pa5? Im leaning towards Tennis World Tour 2.

This is my first ever tennis game and to be honest I really like it. Of course the meta tactics such as wide serving can be annoying but for me I can easily counter it (fully dependent on perfect timing).

Totally agree. Very boring. Full ace and tennis elbow cannot even be compared in terms of gameplay, they are far ahead.

I agree in everything said here, i was at day one of release very dissapointed...

I agree 100 percent!

Please tell us about single player content review? Your only focus is multiplayer ?

Love your opinion on basically everything cause this game is a typical cash grab, now im praying with everything i have that Tiebreak fixes its issues and becomes even better than it is now

Dude...just early access of Tiebreak do better ! for the moment...but there are too much work again, am agree

Bro, i like your videos! Totally agree with you, i'm a fan of TS4 but i hate TS2K25 because of micro-transactions, bad gameplay and ugly player's faces. This game deserve a 12/20, not a 16 or a 17/20 like i saw in some reviews (i leave in France). Tiebreak's gameplay still clumsy mais it's a real simulation tennis game : good career mode, beautiful and numerous players, gameplay much closer to simulation...

I have been playing more of top spin 4 better game then top spin 5 just more enjoyable games vs the Ai and taken off the bars like shot bar stamina bar etc i agree what you saying about top spin 5 . I have also been playing Tiebreak but I think still too many issues to be a enjoyable game but I think the game is improving all the time with their patches

Speaking on the Career mode: It’s horribly made a the energy system is a horrible design choice. For example I could start in the ATP Finals in December with 100% energy and by the end of the first match I’d have 70-80% stamina and by the end of the group stage I’d have 30% risking injury (happens when you are 35% and below). Basically it’s impossible to play ‘real tennis’ mode or ‘topspin’ mode because they are too long and EVEN when I did ‘short set’ I sometimes found myself losing 25% a game. Yes I upped stamina but it really doesn’t matter. Also the wide service meta is used by the ai to somewhat of an effect as if I’m playing someone like sinner for example, who has a great serve attribute, it’s almost impossible to win that point if his serve is correct (which from hard difficulty up which is what I play on is 60% of the time) Finally the only takeaway I have from Topspin2k25 is that the ‘Topspin Academy’ is actually very informative and good at teaching playstyles, the devs vision was to definitely make this game tactical but instead the usual 2k money grabbers decided 50-80 pounds wasn’t enough. Shambles but it’s the only tennis game I’ve played in a hot minute so I guess it’s in the same boat at the situation with EAFC

The game it's ok, but there are a few things that are still better in TopSpin 4 which make no sense... and somethings feels like there is an scripted play that you can't win. Like a rank 23103201203 that suddenly plays some incredible 4 ace in a row or some awesome shots.

1 million percent agree

Close to the platinum trophy now - and will nevwr play it again after 😂

When I Go to play Myplayer, says error. “This feature is not available When streaming instala is active” Anyone can help?

This review is spot on. Wide serve and power cheese is so boring.

This should be an online only review. I have not touched online matches & I won't til they put WAY more effort into them. I'm not singing it's praises bc to me it's Topspin 4 w/ some minor improvements (also played the snot out of AO tennis) but it's at least a step in the right direction. Did you dislike TopSpin4 also? No other sim has had all the majors officially. First tennis game to make net play viable at least offline. I'm playing career on hard having a great time, I hit every shot type (I rarely hit flat unless it's a slow high ball) &, not flexing, it's a bit too easy. Your list of gameplay components to a tennis shot, absolutely all make a difference in the timing most importantly & shot selection. The PC consistently hits an out ball if I go at the w/ power & depth. I understand the online frustrations but it's just a different game online. If they don't have offline in a good state, why would you jump into online where things are always much trickier to balance? My biggest gripe is the lack of customization with UI & sensitivity & a high risk button is missed. I loved TS4 but it was not a perfect game the way people romanticize it. Turn off the timing & power meters, you'll get the timing eventually & this is just more screen litter distractions.

Played 100% Career. For me it was a lot of fun, BUT: In every turnament i played in the last rounds (semi/Final) against Alcaraz, Fritz or Medvedev, sometimes (previously) againgst Tiafoe and Shelton! Berrettini and Murray hardly ever. The first tournament rounds against fictional opponents. That fact was pretty boring! Tournaments with such less real Players! 😬 Support Team and Coaches with tasks are good, trainings and special events too!

I agree all that you said.

Yes I gave up on top spin 2K after seeing the terrible career mode. Rallies take no skill at all. Boring. I play Tennis Elbow 4 and It is so much better. Presentation is not as polished, but it takes a lot of work to understand the strategies, but it feels so good when you outwit your opponent. It is hugely deep. Mods and updates are making it better all the time.

I disagree with your thought starting at 4.55. Try to play as a pro player vs player online and there are depth in there. Here is the good example of two pros players online: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtl9aduBl7mXfas.html . Noticed the game depth in there. The ball placement is very realistic, not just left and right ball thing that you said. Your review is just your point of view and doesnt reflect the real capability of the game if played by good players. The learning curve of Topspin is a bit harder but when learned, its very good.

i would have bought it, but the graphics are so bad. graphics on a tennis game should be top tier as it's single, small location.

For me it's just a matter of will i guess the serve right ... its so boring

Long rallies with both players at net 🤣

Clothing/gear being locked behind VC and the ridiculous stamina mechanic in career mode pretty much ruined the entire game for me. And the cherry on top of the shit sundae….. my game’s bugged and I can’t even launch the damn thing while connected to the internet. It crashes every single time I try to open it. I submitted a ticket to 2K Support over a week ago and they still haven’t replied. This game is a buggy, rushed cash grab that’s riddled with microtransactions. Don’t bother with it.

Feels too generic. Everyone has the same boring animations. Everyone has the same style of tennis, like real life tennis. Shot animations are hidden behind paywalls and hours of gameplay to unlock higher tiers. I get bored real easy. I play tennis in real life and it doesn’t feel natural. 2K put this game out to entice tennis fans, who loved TS franchise, to spend money.

Then i'll wait for under 25 euros because i'm not going to waste money i'm tired of AAA being expensive also because i love Top Spin series

Top spin 4 had way better gameplay

Top spin 4 game play >> top spin 2k25

@4:42 - So on point. The game lacks mechanical depth and gameplay variety. @15:25 - "Go get yourself pair of new socks!" LOL

Top Spin feels like a left right left, oh so like tennis then 😂

Go download RPCS3 and play top spin 4 until they fix this game.

No Djokovic, no money from me.

2K have a big problems with the timing in his games ... We don't need a timing shoot in a fcking a tennis game man like ... why ? The online its literally unplayable , the servers are trash and evereybody spam the same thing over and over agian , it's so fcking BORING AND REPETITIVE and ppl don't care , they still spamming all the time , they don't even care about having fun in the game , they only care about WIN thats it, it's ridiculuos man i can`t understand this new generation of players " competitive pro players " everybody its a competitive sweat now , you can't enjoy online game anymore and having a good time , it's fucking frustrating

Still the best tennis game right now..

Sounds like you are just not very good at playing it. Precision shots are easily played. Power shots shouldn’t be a winner every time you hit one.

Really bad game, esp online some players are unplayable. Every shot hitting crazy angles which isn’t possible

He’s basically saying you can play another tennis game that has its own faults and lacks polish in different categories than TopSpin. In short pick your poison.

friend, you must play full ace tennis simulator , its the tennis game you are looking for

After the latest patch i can no longer play the world tur ranked with my created player it keeps crashing on the menu where it prompts u your next opponent . It freezes i got no.other option but too alt f4 and take a forfeit / lost match gg 2k Fuck this garbage game spend 120 euro on this crap

dead game traded it in before its worth pennies.

Topspin 2k25 is adictive..

This is only tanis game good..other just shit..tiebreak look ps3 arcade ..

Tiebreak Tennis👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌

Tiebreak is better

Learn the game better. Its the same gameplay like top spin 4. Every video game is like this. It has flaws and you get better by time. Get over it