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EVH 5150 III EL34 C137 Mod / KYLE BULL/
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3 жыл бұрынShout out to Kyle Bull out in Erie, PA who's a sick guitarist and is obsessed with tone as much as I am, if not MORE! He has an EVH 5150 III EL34 that he just modded by clipping the C137 capacitor which brings an entirely new tone and life to the blue channel!! After hearing his tone after he clipped it, I KNEW I had to do the same. I've known about this capacitor mod but was always reluctant to do it!! Until Kyle's video!! Kyle, you are the man and thank you so much!! Now, if YOU have an EVH 5150 III EL34 and HATE the blue channel, you NEED to do this!! It's literally a 10 minute job between unscrewing the chassis, pulling out the amp section, clipping the one single capacitor and putting it all back together. YOU are going to love the blue channel afterwards!! Thanks again to Kyle for sharing his mod and enjoy your new blue channel!!!
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@kscotthoy 3 жыл бұрын
Never just cut it. Unsolder one leg so it's easily restored to original condition.
@PainterDans 10 ай бұрын
The best thing about this mod is that it was put out there by the guy who built the amp
@louistorres 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I totally agree!
@metalgear4199 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this video Louis, it’s exactly what I needed to go ahead! 🤟🏼😎
@sjs793 2 жыл бұрын
I hopped back and forth in the vid from pre-clipped to clipped and didn't here that much of a difference really. Except for the volume was much louder in the clipped example. I think a 10 band eq and a boost is definitely the way to go
@louistorres 2 жыл бұрын
I know some guys use an EQ to help the blue channel.
@jasonrooney8004 3 жыл бұрын
I just did this this morning to my EVH....you me inspired me to do it....by the gods what a difference!
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Jason! I'm so glad you did the mod!! Isn't it shocking how much of a difference there is?!! I'm so glad you watched my video because that's what I wanted to share. How it sounds like before and after the clip. Yeah man, I can actually use the blue channel now and I'm super thrilled to hear that you felt confident that it would help!! Like you said, "what a difference!" It's so true and crazy to just clip one little capacitor and literally night and day of a difference! Heck yeah, brother!! Have a great Friday and weekend, Jason!!
@christgerm4643 3 жыл бұрын
With the cap cut, it remind's me something like the Orange channel on a Dual Rec. Like, some mid tamed and a lot of bottom, and both have a red cut through lead channel
@wi11.0w1sp 3 жыл бұрын
Good god man. I did not think it would have had that much of a tonal difference. Makes me want one even more. Haha
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
It's night and day! It's shocking how open it sounds now.
@wi11.0w1sp 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres it really is man. I'm just hearing it through video, I could only imagine the harmonics and overtones that are missed through the platform. The blue channel after the mod has some serious string definition for being higher gain than before.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
The C137 basically muffles the output and after it's cut, it's the original sound of the blue channel. It's so much better after it's been clipped and useable! Now I'll use the blue with the gain dialed back plus an OD in the front.
@wi11.0w1sp 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres yeah it really did choke it out a lot effecting the EQ it seemed. I can't wait to hear this guy with the Eros or Direwolf in front of it.
@frostybranch4576 3 жыл бұрын
After the mod , I’ve been boosting the blue with a Highwind Direwolf , a KSR Eros works really sweet too . It’s also works great with my 50 watt stealth as well ! Although it’s entirely up to the individual as to whether a boost is needed at all with the stealth ! It’s ridiculous!
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
I have both pedals! I'll try them on the blue channel later today! Thanks for the heads up, brother! :)
@Epochstudios 2 жыл бұрын
I use the KSR EROS to Boost the Blue channel of the Evh 5150III EL34 50w unmodded and it sounds absolutely killer, there is no reason to modd the amp at all and imo I don't understand why people do. I've heard plenty of clips modded and played the amp unmodded in person and the difference don't warrant modding the amp. if you are considering modding this amp people I would strongly urge you to have a tech put that C137 on a toggle switch in case you don't like the modd. imo I won't mod my amp as it sounds killer boosting the blue channel with a TS9, with a KSR Eros or Fortin 33 so I'm positive you will get your desired tone with any overdrive boosting the blue channel! Food for thought guys, I know tone is subjective and to each their own but I wanted people to know that the amp sounds killer boosting the blue channel with out that C137 modd
@tjborekvideo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this mod. Great video! I'd really need to A/B a modded head against my stock one through the same cabinet in person to see if it's something I want to commit to. Having three distinct channels is part of the reason I bought this amp. Sounds like two red channels now. idk
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
The two channel are still very distinct between them but the blue is officially useable now. There are guys who are modding them with a toggle, so you can choose between the stock blue and the C137 clipped option. That way, you can decide. :) Hope that helps and happy Friday, Tim! :)
@rjprivate 3 жыл бұрын
Good sound!
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! I'm glad I didn't butcher it this time! Haha. :)
@johngloom9235 3 жыл бұрын
The red channel was pretty brutal, but quite noisy. After the mod, the blue channelw as a beast, and much more quiet
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The red channel is terribly noisy and I think the new blue channel will end up working better.
@angelskaixo5188 3 жыл бұрын
I like the blue channel, but I use a homemade TS-808 with and led instead of a diode (actually has a switch to flip between, and even a bypass too), and an Eq.
@KG-wp6gh 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, giving me more GAS! I might have to buy the amp just so I can mod it! I ended up removing the treble bleed cap from my 6505+ and DSL 50. The results were fantastic. Less fizz, more punch.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Now I have to figure out what treble bleed cap I need to remove from my Peavey 6505+!!! Hahaha
@marccuomo6723 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Marc!!! Such a huge difference in the blue channel now. Seems like they did a better job on the blue in the newer 50w Stealth version. : )
@CHEMICALFINGERPRINT1 3 жыл бұрын
The blue channel sounds good with a emg 57 boosted with maxon st9 pro+.
@michaelheitz566 2 жыл бұрын
Did this MOD today, Great 🤘🤘👍
@louistorres 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it better now!!!!! Now you can use a pedal and not have it sound all weird! I'm glad you made the adjustment.
@dlm8751 2 жыл бұрын
I need a schematic for the EL34 so I can see where that cap is in the stage(s). I have a schematic for the 6V6 but it looks to me like the preamps are different and there is no C137 I can find on that schematic. If I could find a schematic then I could design an A-B switch or better yet a "tone" circuit to allow a control of how "open" that cap connection is.
@philarson297 3 жыл бұрын
Way more beast after the adjustment
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Man, WAY more and without the noise that's found on the red channel! It's a big difference!
@dylanbradshaw8706 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Been meaning to get a 5150iii el34for a while but was hesitant cause of the blue channel but this mod sounds perfect. Almost got the 6l6 just for the blue channel but I like the el34 tone better. Do I need to know anything about soldering/modding to do this mod? It sounds pretty straightforward, just I've never done a mod and I'm just afraid of messing something up or hurting myself. Can I just clip with pliers and be good to go?
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Get a wire clipper, you literally just clip one side, close up and done. Bro, it's the easiest mod I've ever done bc you just need to cut one and and that's it. All of a sudden, it roars!! Just uploaded another video tonight with the EL34 Blue + KSR Eros.
@DebonaireDerek 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres which screws to get the chassis out?
@guitarsbymetaljay 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna try it
@dragonfistjedi 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like to me this mod makes the blue channel sound almost exactly like the red channel. The blue channel sounded fine to me. Maybe just boosting it with an overdrive would do the trick?
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
The blue channel then becomes the same as the original EVH 5150 which is the same as the Peavey 5150 blue. The blue on the EL34 is completely useless. Try it if you get the chance.
@elus1ve0ne64 2 жыл бұрын
In this video the blue channel does sound ok before He clips the cap. But in person I’m sure it sounds different. I just purchased the el34 and the blue channel really does sound terrible. Compared to the 6l6 it’s like what we’re they thinking ? Lol. It definitely needs more than just a boost to sound usable for me. I’ll be modding mine soon !
@PK22-b7v 2 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres I have both EL34 and 6L6 50w heads and the standard blue channel on the EL34 slays the 6L6 … much more full and much more punchy
@Epochstudios 2 жыл бұрын
@ dragonfistjedi bro I thought the exact same !!! I just bought one 2 weeks ago unmodded and I play tech death metal so I i need a tight brutal sound. having that said I boost mine on the blue channel with a KSR EROS and a Revv G8 in the loop and it sounds absolutely killer. I don't understand why people are modding the amp, it sounds incredible as it is.... to each their own I guess?!( and yes I've heard the amp modded, clipping that C137 and how I have mine unmodded boost with the KSR and it doesn't make such a difference that I would clip C137. it sounds absolutely incredible and brutal stock)
@TheGazza83 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the original blue channel sounded good. Ideal for a Tele, and digging the fuck in.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree that for different styles, the blue channel is really good. After the clip, the new blue channel works great with an overdrive and isn't noisy like the red. It's a much better useable option now. :)
@flowryan5829 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a „Chug‘a‘long with a fan“, dude. Man that would be way too much fun!
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!!!! That would be so funny!!! Via Zoom and screen capture? I wonder if the two guitars would be heard.
@flowryan5829 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres Dude, for an afternoon of chugs? Damn, I would board the next plane and jump the pond. Would need a lift from the airport, though, haha.
@stevenhamerman7526 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Crazy the difference
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
My buddy Kyle shocked me with HIS mod and I knew I had to do the same. The blue channel is so much better now!
@lasv155 3 жыл бұрын
Yea baby!!!
@AndyK.23 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one of these, so this video is timely! Correct me if I'm wrong, but you now have two red channels after the snip? Or does the blue still do the classic early VH type Marshall thing - only less flubby - with the gain backed off?
@AndyK.23 3 жыл бұрын
@@belligerentamateur Nice. Don't know what the cap value is, but would halving it reduce the flubb without making it too bright, compared to removing it?
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
It's night and day! I'm so glad you posted that video! You instantly convinced me that it was the right thing to do!!
@Producer_Jeff 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do this to the 6l6 version? And if so do you think it would have the same effect? I have a 6l6 and it sounds great and all but I really have to smack the front end hard to use the blue channel, even with the gain all the way up
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
That clip is just for the EL34 50 watt but check some forums and see if there are any mods for the 6L6 version. I don't have that one, so I've ever looked into it.
@Producer_Jeff 3 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks man
@m1blazer2 3 жыл бұрын
Need to find one of them cabs
@nicktopping2484 3 жыл бұрын
I really want to try this but still idk
@AntonioFernandez-yp3rr 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about your hand, quick question which amp do you prefer, the MT15 or the EVH 5150 III and which one is louder and better sounding overall. I want to buy one of the but don’t know which one
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
EVH is better than the MT15!!! Without a doubt bro, and thanks for the well wishes on my hand. :)
@talhafatihuzun 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I certainly agree! Without a doubt. Do the capacitor mod for blue channel to make it even better. With the mod, I like the EL34 even more than the Stealth.
@guitarlair 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't understand metal guitar players, the blue channel on this amp is amazing, it's literally a mix of a Soldano and a JCM800, you put an overdrive in front of it and it roars.... if you want a tight amp just buy an ENGL or buy the Stealth, the blue channel on the EL34 is NOT made for modern metal shit, doing this MOD literally defeats the purpose of the amp and makes it sound like the other fucking version of the same amp that many of you already own. It's like breaking up with your blonde GF, then you start dating a redhead and ask her to dye her hair blonde.
@louistorres 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha! Omg, that was such a great example! The blonde and redhead! You know, I've had two different 5153 EL34/ 50w heads and the blue channel wasn't useable in either. I must have 130 pedals in my collection and trust that I've used every overdrive and variant and it didn't tickle my fancy. It's like my Mesa, I LOVE the Dual Rectifier and some guys think I'm crazy bc they hate them. I love the EL34 with the C137 capacitor cut. It's literally perfect for the tone that I think best represents the C# Standard tuning I use. :)
@guitarlair 2 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres like I said, the blue channel on this amp is not made for modern metal, it’s voiced based on Eddie’s brown tone, and I’m sorry but if ppl can’t hear that I guess they’re tone deaf.. There are multiple videos on KZfaq of non metal guitar players nailing Eddie’s tone on the blue channel, or playing 80s stuff like Zakk and Sykes (which is also what I normally play). I heard guys like Kyle ( love his channel btw) saying that the blue channel doesn’t sound like a cranked British amp and that makes me wonder if he ever listened to Van Halen once in his life.. but like you said it’s about taste, I love rectifiers as well and to me ppl that can’t get a good sound out of them literally don’t know how to dial in an amp or they’re trying to make it sound like a Marshall and that’s not gonna happen because it’s NOT a Marshall.
@majesticpbjcat7707 2 жыл бұрын
@@guitarlair I've read that the point for some people to use this mod is to use the blue channel as their main high gain channel instead of using the red because the red channel has too much unwanted noise. I don't know personally though because I don't own the amp yet, but that's just what I'm gathering from some of the comments I've read. Chalk it up to "your mileage may vary" I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@-DILLIGAF 2 жыл бұрын
THIS x1000!!! I concur. However, with that said there is an amp tech that plays plays a Tele then some "metal" guitars through one after clipping it and he makes it sound ABSOLUTELY KILLER for both classic rock and metal. Look him up RubberDuckTech (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iKphY6p8mazTn40.html) here on YT! I've bought and sold two (too much unusable gain) EVH 5150iii's now and just bought a third (EL34 this time) just because of his video and I WANT LESS GAIN in my blue ch. No disrespect but, gain is like "sugar crack" for the metal kids. They just keep heaping and pouring it on like sugar until you can't tell what the hell you're eating anymore (or in this case can't tell good tone from bad). When you have THAT much gain you lose touch responsiveness and articulation. You also lose dynamics. I know because I used to do the same. But, as my guitar playing matured my technique improved as I used less and less gain.
@ricardopereira9262 7 ай бұрын
@louis torres you just forgot a VERY IMPORTANT information. Its extremely dangerous to work inside a high voltage amp without proper care. Those filter capacitors are fully charge to several hundred volts... ready to knock you out even if the amp is turned off for some hours or even days.
@louistorres 7 ай бұрын
I had my Marshall JCM800 try to kill me once!
@ricardopereira9262 7 ай бұрын
@@louistorres so you know.. stay away from death metal :)
@JustJoshing4L Жыл бұрын
Man, I still think the el34 with c137 mod sounds better than the stealth
@louistorres Жыл бұрын
All I know is that the c137 mod makes the EL34 sound amazing compared to not having it cut. I love both, the EL50w for the EL34 tonal range and the Stealth for the 6L6 tonal characteristic. :)
@JustJoshing4L Жыл бұрын
@@louistorres I do like that they're different enough to justify owning both too. I just prefer that el34 "bark" if that makes sense. I will say though, my wallet really loves used el34 prices more than used stealth prices, haha
@Stretchwreckedem469 Жыл бұрын
You’d think that the dudes playing AC/DC on these amps would be trying to push the clean channel instead of using the Crunch channel on these amps as Angus Young never used as much gain as people think he does.
@louistorres Жыл бұрын
I think they get caught up with Eddie and figure this would have to work well for them. :)
@crispylicksguitar 9 ай бұрын
I think the blue sounds than the red with or with out the mod . I think Lou is confusing gain with tone
@kentreinford2321 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the same on the 6l6? My blue channel on that is garbage!
@CatalystGamingWV 3 жыл бұрын
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@georgepederson6599 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would’ve shown the step by step. 😔
@louistorres Жыл бұрын
No worries, there's a guy who has a video showing step by step how to do it. That's literally the video I followed to clip mine. You'll spend more time unscrewing and screwing back the case than it takes to find and clip the capacitor, then you'll be in blue channel heaven!
@aaronholland5183 Жыл бұрын
How does the mod affect the red channel?
@louistorres Жыл бұрын
It doesn't.
@evane2808 3 жыл бұрын
I love the blue channel🥺
@BEEPEE767 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Boosted it sounds killer! I see why some people don’t like it, but I think it’s partially a matter of using the right speakers too
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Even boosted I didn't like it but clipping the C137 brings that's channel to life.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
@@BEEPEE767 boosted after the C137 is cut is so much better and fuller, with life. I've used my EVH with V30s, G75s, Sheffields, E50Ps, 70/80s and nothing. Personally, I've never liked the blue but now! It's such a huge difference!
@BEEPEE767 3 жыл бұрын
Louis Torres yeah it’s not for everyone. I can definitely see why people don’t like it, but I think I got mine to sound pretty good, check it out! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq6WgbJhy8DRdqM.html
@BEEPEE767 3 жыл бұрын
Louis Torres I may look into it. It definitely makes a difference!
@ashleyevans424 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man. I just did the mod and my amp just took off its glasses, whipped its hair out of a bun and become the hot girl that she had been all along.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!!!! Isn't that mod a game changer!!? It's crazy how much better it sounds after cutting that capacitor! I literally just imagined a nerdy girl turning gorgeous! Hahaha! Happy Monday, bro!! :)
@ashleyevans424 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres you too mate. Hardest part was putting the right sized screws back in lol. Thanks for showing the actual mother board and cut. Made it much easier. Very grateful as the amp sounds soo good now.
@peezymeds1580 3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the 6l6 head . No mods needed to that imo.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've heard that the blue in the 6L6 is fine!
@shannonrachelepperson6834 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to his video?
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, here's the link. :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtSai9aJnZqphY0.html
@isatariq7533 3 жыл бұрын
This link is your vid haha :) would this translate to the 6L6 version? I think the blue channel is rad on it but i definitely wonder what would happen...
@clemfandango2749 3 жыл бұрын
Blue is muddy, fizzy garbage. I want to perform this mod, but is it safe? I've always been told amps hold high voltage that can kill you if you don't know what you are doing.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Unplug it, leave it overnight then do it in the morning. I literally waited 15 minutes and was good and alive. Just don't touch any large capacitors. :) And yes, the blue channel for me personally, was unbearable, so I had to clip it. Now the blue channel is 1,000 times better.
@markresistance8875 3 жыл бұрын
Damn kyle bull isn't he the guitar player for bushido code.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!
@markresistance8875 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres I really dont know kyle but I've known 3 of the other guys for past 20 years bushido code rips
@clugokillscluco 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all can use 5:10 and 8:30 for a direct comparison.
@majesticpbjcat7707 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! 😳
@x7stringinJSCx 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just get the all black Stealth 6L6 version? The whole point of the EL34 head was to be Different and go back to the old Marshall tones from Eddie's first amps. Now it just sounds the same as the 6L6 head. You now literally have 2 high gain channels. This Blue channel is supposed to be less gained out than any 6L6 version bc it's British crunch sounding. Then the red channel picks up where the blue left off and goes into higher and over the top gain.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
The original blue channel was horrible. They simply messed up and if we're talking British tone, I have a few. Trust that the blue channel was voiced by someone who was tone deaf. Anyway, if you look around, you'll notice that I also have the EVH 50w Stealth as well.
@davidmcgravey9858 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a HUGE difference! I have the 6L6 version and hate the blue channel, totally lacks saturation. Do I dare make the same mod? Hmmmmm......
@shredward666 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing 🤔 Love my 6L6 iii but the blue channel is lacking without any overdrive
@nathanhogsed7475 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, someone with a 6l6 version needs to do this so we can find out how it sounds
@shredward666 3 жыл бұрын
@@belligerentamateur I have run a couple of different ods in front of the blue channel of my 6L6 50w and it sounds fantastic. There's a reason Buckethead was running two of these when I saw him live 🤔
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no, is it the same on the 6L6 too?
@shredward666 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres apparently not my man 🤔
@NinecoreNeil 3 жыл бұрын
The blue is more like the 100 EL34s after the clip
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
It's so much better now, Neil!! Thanks for encouraging me to do it, brother!! You are the best!! :) I'm beyond thrilled at how the blue channel sounds now.
@NinecoreNeil 3 жыл бұрын
Louis Torres try the ts9 in front with gain around 3.5 😜🤘🏼
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
I'll do it this morning, I have the Demon TS9 that I'll use! You are the man, and thank you for always being awesome!!
@NinecoreNeil 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres ha I’m not that awesome you make me blush ......🤣 the demon goes great with the 100
@JulesDBN 3 жыл бұрын
Does the 100 w EL34s already modded or you could perform the same c137 mod to the 100w also?
@bradschimke5865 3 жыл бұрын
Dude the 50 watt stealth destroys any other versions of the 50 watt 5150III.
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a new Kemper Stage and Peavey 6505+ head! I'm tapped for the year! :) Maybe 2021 when they finally start to go onto the used market for $500! :)
@bradschimke5865 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you could borrow one at least cause they revised the blue channel and just sounds so good. Also Hasty told me about the new profiling business you dudes are doing. I found out cause I watched Josh Middleton talk about profiling and I messaged Hasty and told him he should start doing it. Lol
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always trying out new and exciting businesses! Hasty is the man!
@thedonylama 3 жыл бұрын
I found it to be too tight compared to my el34. I disliked it for what I do. It lose a lot of the over all movement.
@bradschimke5865 3 жыл бұрын
@@louistorres you and Hasty will work awesome together stoked for you dudes!
@giominor88 3 жыл бұрын
No wall of amps no fun :(
@louistorres 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Soon, brother! :)
@crispylicksguitar 9 ай бұрын
I think the blue sounds than the red with or with out the mod . I think Lou is confusing gain with tone
@louistorres 9 ай бұрын
The Blue channel is voiced like an old awful Ampeg from the 70s. I'm not confused, I just know what a good amp should sound like. After clipping the C137 it is now usable, that's why I kept it.
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