The fact that he straight up lied about the consequences too. He didn't even let them get to the point of saying "We're sleeping in the living room," he just says "We never intended on letting you choose lmao"

In fairness, _I guess,_ that kind of thing has happened with other so-called social experiments run by unqualified persons seeking justifications for their worldview instead of just seeking knowledge.

"These people are talking like normal people. What the hell?"

On "reality" TV they would have done 30 reshoots until they got the reaction the producer wanted.

He's still at this kind of shit. He invited my sisters girlfriend, a decently popular fatfashion personality . They lied and said it was about body positivity and ending fatphobia. Thankfully she turned it down but the woman who didn't want so lucky. It was all "it's unhealthy to live like this so we'll hook up with a trainer, how about that?" Edit for spelling

I also love that he made the assumption that bigots with "one issue" wouldn't be likely to also display tendencies of "another issue" like that! For someone with a doctorate in psychology, it is stunning how ignorant Phil is of the subject. Of course, his brand is built on cutting through the "bullshit" of nuance and care associated with therapy to get through to the core "common sense" perspective that the audience endorses, so he has an incentive to ignore well established psychological ideas he knows won't be popular with his audience. Incredible.

He clearly doesn't see people, he sees stereotypes! Does working in TV too long do that to you?

​@@RadicalShiba1917Hell, I only have a bachelor's in psychology and I'm shocked

Dr. Phil unironically struggling to understand that someone can be both fat AND racist is just so perfect. It's not like racism could stem from feeling insecure and isolated as you blame your problems on other people, some people are just racist. And racists can't be homophobic, those are two different things! Why would there be overlap, Phil thinks! It's not like there's a huge intersection between white supremacy, homophobia, transphobia, antisemitism, and incel culture! We picked a racist and he's the only one allowed to be a racist on the show, lol! If the racist isn't saying the N word and other people are, then that's not a problem with our casting, it just means we need to intervene to make the fat one not also steal the racist trait.

Fun fact: Dr Phil stopped renewing his licence to practice psychology in 2006, has never held a licence to practice in California where his show is filmed, and to get around this determined that his show was primarily for entertainment purposes, rather than to offer any actual help to people.

Dr. Phil thinks that because he's bald, there's no way he can also be an asshole.

Or shocked the the neo-Nazi guy was homophobic. Like dude.

Now we know he doesn't even treat people on his shows like actual people, just like one-dimensional characters. The fat guy, the racist, the black woman... that's all he can see.

"Racist people are better than fat lazy people!" -Dr.Phil, probably

It’s just that it wasn’t his “discussed and agreed upon issue” for the show. Any other issues can wait until after taping

@@MadScientist267what is a derp term?

@@chelseakitkatz "Normal" is sufficient here 🙄

​@@chelseakitkatzHe's saying that they think neurotypical can be replaced with the word normal. Though, an autistic person acting normal would still mean they are acting autistic. Derp usually goes hand in hand with calling somebody a re***d, or implying it. Derp terms is likely something he made up to describe words he is to derpy to understand.

​@@MadScientist267being normal isn't real

@@Swanny2294 What kinda special stupid is all that? Lol 🤦‍♂️

I don't know how anyone solves a difficult life situation without poorly thought out, badly executed reality television.

​@@ReallyBadJuJuI know, right? I cannot tell you the life lessons I learned from 'Rock of Love'. I still refer to my notes whenever I have a problem.

He's not even a real doctor

truer words have ne'er been uttered by a mortal

i would say that you should do the opposite. if he turns to the right, turn always left, even if you end up in the other part of the city

And too many people think Bigotry is When Loud anf not actually related to Hatred or Treatment of Others or any of that...

@@youtubeuniversity3638 exactly.

I wonder how many people watching this show assumed that everyone was being honest. That fat/gay/black people are just ANGRY while the bigots are calm and collected.

YES, I thought the same thing! The minorities' intros all felt very forced and acted out, while the others just truly spoke from a place of internal hatred, or at least a strong knowledge of how to talk down to minorities. Truly an awful freaking show

I was thinking that just in the intro - I think typically a marginalized person's reasons for "hating" the oppressive class is very different than real bigotry. In the former case, that "hatred" is defensive, born from the original marginalization, and you see that in their own words, the Black woman and lesbian couch their anger at white/straight people in their experiences of being tossed aside by those very people. It's interesting that in this 2000s era (and today really) there's a focus on "ALL hatred is bad, let's all get along!" Without a recognition that all of that prejudice comes from the same place: the initial, dominant forms of bigotry of the straight white hegemony. Maybe let's focus on fixing that as a society? No, that wouldn't make good tv? OK, for sure...

I mean he didn't even consider someone might have more than one bigotry, like the skinhead being a homophobe too.

hey kid "stick's and stones will break your bones but names can never hurt you" come on you bloody snowflake you ain't goung to melt!

also phil isn't a real medical dr. he plays one on tv but he is not now or ever been in practice with a real license, like that guy Oz also just a tv dr. actor not a real medical dr.

​@@antlerrIt's hard to believe, but Dr. Oz is a retired heart surgeon! Now he is just a sell-out! ✌️

@@laurad4822he's not even a doctor of psychology??? why do people care of he's a doctor if it's not in a relevant subject😭😭????!!

It's a legal character!

Hey, atleast multiclassing is a variant rule. This here makes even less sense

That made me bust out laughing. I was not prepared for that kind of deadpanning

its rly funny but im also gonna read into it and say it feels like a good representation of how some bigots will like or even be friends/partners with a member of the group they hate but continue being bigots. they just wont be bigoted towards "the good ones"

​@@BlisaBLisa Liberals who are racist use the term African American because they are worried about being canceled.

The f***ing babiest of steps lol

Him doing blackface was hilarious I'm sorry.

And the “you’ve got better sense than that” What are you basing that on, Dr. Phil? Why would a violent skin-head have “better sense than that”?

Yeah, it's like saying, "Hey Used car salesman Dave," how come you keep trying to convince people to buy used cars?"

😂😂

Feels like a south park skit💀💀

Sounds like something out of Flight of the Concords 😂

Bro said "pick a struggle"

BRO you are supposed to be the fat guy, not the racist one!!!! You’ve ruined my show!!!

Bigotry is rarely not intersectional.

He thinks people are two-dimensional cartoon characters who have one shtick going on. And it's sad to say, but that is how most people seem to think bigotry works?!

The fact that he got so offended that humans could engage with multiple bigotries was classic Phil. "What are you doing?! I can't be reductionist about this!"

The whole world was shocked when the racist guy also hates gay people on episode 3

​@@jerryhicks9025 Lol, yeah cause we've never heard of someone hating *both* at the same time! 😮😅

What was the other gross thing?

@@shoopmahboop1374 There are always plenty of candidates. I watch a lot of similar content to Joel's and I work in manufacturing with a bunch of boomer Trump supporters. Off the top of my head, yesterday also included "Shoplifters should be shot on sight," "Isreal is in the right because even if they stopped [committing war crimes against civilians], Hamas wouldn't just surrender," "Trans people are mentally ill child groomers and predators," "Women are responsible for all evil in the world because every evil person has a mother, and women choose to breed with assholes to create more assholes," and "All atheists are fundamentally bad people, a threat to our society, and quite possibly either literal demons or lying misotheists (they know god exists and willfully defy him out of wickedness and hatred)."

Yes doesn't he know that there are different rules for black people and white people in America? Literally every action a person takes they should first check the colour of their skin. "Am I black enough to be racist?" Is a question everyone should ask themselves every day.

@@SineN0mine3 Wow, what an incredibly disingenuous response to what I actually said. There is no "being black enough to justify racism" and anyone trying to sell you the narrative that that is the state of the discourse surrounding racial inequality in America today is peddling a truly hideous strawman. The reason we call out the garbage "two-sides-of-the-same-coin, we all suffer equally from bigotry" rhetoric isn't because there is nothing wrong with being a bigot if you are from a marginalized community. It is because those two demographics (marginalized people who hold actual bigoted beliefs vs non-marginalized people who hold actual bigoted beliefs) are so radically different in size, composition, influence, and systematic support that the comparison is utterly ludicrous. Yes, you could find some truly bigoted people in any demographic. And I will happily denounce that bigotry as such when I see it. But that is not what is being presented to us in this show, even though Phil is trying hard to frame it that way. What we are seeing is one side being encouraged to play up their rage about the way their entire community has been systematically mistreated by bigots. They say the words "I hate straight/skinny/white people," etc. and the showrunners frame it as the same thing as a skinhead saying "I hate black people." BUT when we get down to it and start asking questions, we find that these marginalized people actually understand that there is nothing inherently or genetically inferior about any of those groups. They know perfectly well that their problem is with the system as a whole and they are angered by the way in which those demographics help to perpetuate bigoted narratives against them. They are angry at a _community_ that has repeatedly and consistently failed them and committed atrocities against them. The actual bigots on this show have digust and hatred for each individual within the targeted groups and hold beliefs about their fundamental inferiority, genetic nature, and moral character. They believe that being gay/black/fat etc make them worse people by definition. Phil tried really hard to sell the idea that both sides were operating in this way, but it is blatantly apparent that we are comparing apples and oranges here. If I were to say, "God, I hate cis people, why do they have to make life so difficult and treat me like shit?" I would happily admit that that would be problematic of me. I should really say, "God, I hate the way our culture (which was developed by and for cis people) makes my life so difficult and encourages cis people to treat me like shit." Because that is a more accurate representation of my actual stance. More "politically correct", if you will. But I absolutely reject the idea (even if I did stupidly use the former wording in a fit of frustration) that that would in any way make me a bigot like the people who actively advocate for restricting my rights and access to safe medical care, who want to spread the fear that I will harm and abuse children, people that want to put me in real danger by forcing me (who is, to any outside observer, an average guy) to use the women's bathroom when I go out in public. People who call for communities to band together and force me out of "their" neighborhoods with torches and pitchforks if necessary, who want to hide my existence from children like some sort of dirty secret, and see any self-advocacy or visibility on my part as a sign of our society's moral decline. People who have called me mentally ill, a sexual deviant, delusional, sick, immoral, sinful, dangerous, unnatural, and an offense to God by my mere existence. People who held such power over me throughout my life that I _believed them._ I felt a deep, visceral disgust for myself. I felt hideous, monstrous, unlovable, and tainted. Not just when the topic came up or someone said something especially cruel, but all day, every day, in the deepest parts of my fundamental beliefs about myself. Anyone who tries to say that bigotry against cis people is an even remotely comparable phenomenon to what I have experienced doesn't know shit about what it means to be a group that society _actually_ treats unfairly or views as "other". Sure, when I see a trans person say something negative and too-broad about cis people, I call it out. And you know what happens? They change their language because they didn't actually mean that not going through gender transition is a flaw. They mean that being a cis person makes it less likely that someone will understand our plight or stand with us because of our cis-oriented culture's attitude, and the bigoted rhetoric of large groups of cis people. JFC, what a shocker that the same people who complain about CRT and gender studies have no idea what they are actually about.

@@shoopmahboop1374 go watch a random video of police interaction. chances are you will be disgusted

Then why wasbhebso popular and so many people watched him? That's the real thing you should hate

@@robk7266lol what? "dont get mad at the people who allowed this to happen, get mad at the people that accidentally left the tv channel on after law and order!!" no...

@@davechongle what I'm saying is, the only reason it was made was because people enjoy watching it. So who exactly allowed this to happen?

@@robk7266 "dr" phil and co. created this.. yea, a lot of people like to watch schlock, but you cant really fix that can you? it would be much easier to fix the actual problem. also, people would watch him no matter what he did, so he easily couldve done something better. what im saying is you are wrong, phil is the person we should be mad at, if we are to be mad at all.

​@@robk7266how about i hate dr phil and i dislike the people watching him? Why must our hate be directed only at one party instead of all of them?

😂😂😂

A house is not a home with out the hate

@@mikepj67 A hate hut? A bigot bungalow? Or just a home o' phobia?

😅🤗

@@KenLieckhome o’ phobia deserves an award

Invite the bum fights guy.

Considering what his wife looks like, I would have greatly enjoyed someone who hates plastic surgery

Dr. Phil and his staff are all significantly overweight so I guess the "fat phobic" chick counts.

@@youtubeuniversity3638 I see what you did there ;) Dr. Phil had the Bum Fights guy on the show to chastise him for profiting on other people's suffering, but the Bum Fights Guy went to the show dressed up as Dr. Phil to harass him saying that he does the exact same thing.

​​@@cigarette420Can I hate horribly done and unnecessary plastic surgery pushed upon aesthetically good looking young people through social pressures to match the current singular face considered to be the beauty standard of the day?

That was not a fun fact at all

“Oppressors” 😂 . Also, so fit people are oppressing fat people? Lol

​@@iihh517 I won't argue with you 😊

@@iihh517you’re low iq so I’m gonna regret even engaging with you, but yes, as one can imagine a group that despises and greatly outnumbers another would typically lead to some kind of oppressive mechanic in a society.

@@karmasick I’m not here to argue with you either. Just letting you know that no one outside of your echo chamber will agree with your premise.

fully. that's real.

he’s not even a qualified therapist 🤩

@@delilah8809 Not anymore at least.

In his defense... no he isn't. Hasn't been since 1985.

Yeah this man has ZERO rapport building skills. I can only imagine what he was like back in the day as an actual therapist

@@Usagi393it would be like having Jordan Peterson as your therapist: nothing would get done and you would have to listen to them rant about the hippies, reverse racists, trans people, Obama, etc.

Don't forget that one of the oppressors also has a history of actual violent crime. Like, Bea is in actual physical danger.

They shouldn't bunk a female in the same room as a male or lesbian. There's a good chance this guy got locked up for whatever and had to join a prison gang (which are divided by race).

@@marthademovimaus5140 Most normal conservative

@@nothingineternityterms Are you that liberal that you don't care about your personal privacy? Or do you believe that people paid to be on these shows have sold away their privacy?

@@marthademovimaus5140 Or did they notice that you "subtly" tried to slip in homophobia next to a normal take as if no one would notice?

Morality choices in video games: 1) Do the obvious right thing 2) Do the objectively evil 3) Do the obvious right thing but be a little snarky about it

how people talk about fallout new vegas

"People sided with the opposing faction that is rude. What does this say about GAMERS?"

​​@@tuesdaysellers1545 this is basically fallout 3 💀 It's even better if the "objective right side" actually DOES do some pretty fucked up things but the narrative completely ignores it to focus on something irrelevant instead.

​@@emi_is_absentyou think the legion is bad just because they're a militaristic hyper-patriarchal fascist dictatorship? Well umm... Here's a NCR soldier depicted as a soyjak. Truly riveting discourse

Makes me sad this is probably the first people have heard of this. I think it'd make Dr Phil's incompetence and hatred even more publicly known

Based

Based

Cringe

@@leonrussell9607 no.

*empathize

In other words a less underhanded version of “Rock Bottom” from The Simpsons

he's just one of those high school bullies who become therapists but with a gigantic platform and also boatloads of money

@@biggestastiest somehow therapy seems to attract a percentage of these cretins. Like, people who didn't realise they wanted to bully others until they got their degree maybe?

He has a formula and he knows it works on his dumb audience. They always need someone to hate. If there are grey areas that is confusing for them.

Was this a different one or the one where they were abandoned by their family? There was one like that, and the comments were feeling sympathy for the guy because their poor baby is trans (Oh no!), meanwhile they had no place to live because they were thrown on the street lol. You'd think if they truly loved you, they wouldn't throw you out like garbage.

Omg

Holy shit...

She was contributing to discrimination

​@@user-ex5ms9kw8pok bigot.

@@user-ex5ms9kw8p In what way was she "contributing to discrimination"? "I have prejudices against white people because of past and present racist practices" is clearly not the same thing as "I have prejudices against black people because I see myself as a superior race that has gloriously oppressed black people for hundreds of years and regard desegregation as a tragedy" or whatever.

You are totally clueless.

Hating the supremacist for their ideology is reasonable. Hating all people who are of the same skin color as a supremacist (and assuming they're also supremacists) is stupid and racist. Dr. Phil is sexist. He considers a woman who yells to assert herself "manly" and "losing her dignity". Keeping that in mind, we haven't seen the actual show to see what event Dr. Phil is referring to. If she had done something (for instance) like put some dog doo in the white $upr€mac¡st guy's bunk, Dr. Phil would have a point.

​@@baneverything5580What

What do you mean

@@volnartheunforgiving3952 Liberals use the term centrist as an insult. It means a coward or sellout who has abandoned the "right side of history" to see" both sides".

We got a lion who hates gazelles and a gazelle who hates lions and put them in a house together. Truly the hatred is equal and balanced.

Or a very bad family guy gag

@@eliasmg9144 I was going to go with South Park, but same energy.

​@@Craxin01i was thinking a rick and morty joke

@@leonrussell9607 Yeah, same energy there too.

I didn’t even realize that that was the implication being made here 🤣😭😭

unironically just saying, lesbians love rock climbing

You can't be FAT, you're already a lesbian!

I knooow like pick a struggle

I think Phil only looked at these people for one specific characteristic. Unlike a lot of introductions to people and characters alike on tv, these people are specifically only talking about this one characteristic, with absolutely nothing else like hobbies or interests unless they specifically relate to that one characteristic. The fat guy being racist is probably because Phil put no effort into learning more about these people aside from one characteristic (being gay, racist, etc) and that lead to multiple people dunking on one minority because Phil didn’t try to ensure that the people he was bringing on didn’t fulfill more than one characteristic, he just chose whoever had at least one or whoever was most vocal about their beliefs. Which is pretty scummy.

bro said pick a struggle

@@Nox.x_ART Like dude was genuinely surprised the skinhead was homophobic. Did he do like any research?

yeh thanx phil

Based and PhilPilled

Second coming of Phil Christ 🙏

I’d love to see this show be revived, it seems like just some stupid fun.

@@rickkroll Wait a minute... Red Pill... Rd Pill... dR Pill... Dr Pill... Dr Plil... Dr Phil! My god...! Do you know what this means?! I hope so, because I sure don't.

"Who're you cslling skinhead?"

reminds me of another social experiment, how Santiago Genovés got 10 people stuck on a raft (the Acali Raft) for 101 days and tried to foment violence between them but they just ended up shunning him

​@@benjaminrabbit659I heard about that and it's so cathartic. I'd love to see that happen to Dr Phil

​@@benjaminrabbit659I loved wendigoon's explanation of the raft.

Maybe they did when they couldn't come up with any questions for Dr Phil in that segment, and that's why they deleted it haha. Regardless, it's absolutely insane how long this man has been free to make tv shows

​@@benjaminrabbit659now thàt reminds me of a real life lord of the flies story where some young boys from Tonga stole a raft and got shipwrecked on an island for 15 months. They all took care of each other and raised chickens and stuff. I first read about it in 'Humankind: a hopeful history' by Rutger Bergman, hiiighly recommend that book :)

liberals are the nazis. Hitler was a follower of Marx. Commies are far evilier but took over colleges hence got washed

Correct. Nazis are bad.

if hating nazis is bigotry then i'm proud to be bigoted ❤❤❤

@@spockezriOh, I’m an incredible bigot then, too.

I thought she “hated white” people and not Nazis per se?

that's not how racism works.

As a black person If I had a personal history of being hurt by white people that still wouldn't make it more okay for me to be hateful toward someone just because there white vs a white person mistreating someone because their black. Both of these things are equally bad and the reason behind why someone hates an entire group of people while it may explain why they hold the beliefs they do still isn't a justifiable reason to mistreat people. I wouldn't go out of my way to mistreat someone's whose white because I understand that not all white people are racist and that people should be treated as individuals not as a monolithic hivemimd with the exact same life experiences & opinions.

"No, that's not your thing! You're supposed to hate skinny people, not black people!"

@@PeterGriffin11those are literally not the same thing. also, white.

To be clear, I agree that personal trauma isn't how racism works; I'm saying I think that's how Dr. Phil thinks it works and that's part of the problem here. That's the parallel he's trying to set up, and that's why it doesn't work

“No you’re supposed to be a one-dimensional character."

Ansel; thank you so much for using the correct spelling of 'discrete'. People getting it wrong is one of my bêtes noires.

@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 finally getting the recognition I deserve

​@@angelamaryquitecontrary4609...do some folks spell it with a "k"...?

@@youtubeuniversity3638 I have a career behind me in language teaching. You'd be surprised at what people think they can get away with, including other staff members. I would get out more but I don't want to get my fountain pen wet.

RIGHT! that was insane because you’d think he’d know better than to say that (I mean… if you know who he is you wouldn’t think that because he said it on purpose because he’s fucking cruel)

I didn’t realize this was a thing but I think Dr. Phil is like… a fat pick me? Like he’s pretty hefty, and he does stuff this a lot, like he wants to feel superior.

Right? Like I think that’s just what you think of him, Phil….

You're telling me if you out two people who hate each other in a room together, they'll be mean??? Unexpected result, I never would have known if the good doctor didn't make this show.

@@matthewalvarojr.2634idk if that’s the point op was making and more as if there can be a “both sides” parity between oppressor and the oppressed.

I feel like if he was paying any attention at all he'd have realised that just from the *casting*. All the marginalised people seem to be playing up their hatred for the show while the racist dude has literally served time for hate crimes.

Why can't the mauling victim just hug the lion who attacked them 🥺🥺

Why would anyone be surprised that Dr Phill both-sideses everything? His whole shtick is being "above it all"

It could have been a good concept if some who wasn't doctor phil and was way smarter then him did it, but no he had to ruin it. Like if the two people had to learn how to bond with each other and get over both of their issues about the other one and then they could share a dinner as a whole group talking about what they did together but instead doctor phil created a toxic environment.

He's pure evil. Stuff like Springer was exploitative but it wasn't supposed to be therapy and I'm pretty sure most of the people involved knew what they were in for. Dr Phil always presented what he did as for the good of the patient while he was abusing some of the most vulnerable people alive.

@@sleepybird1 , What stuck with me was him calling a 10 year old kid a "serial killer in the making"... He didn't have a license to practice psychiatry in California at that time and was making "clinical determinations" on his show. Since it's called "Dr. Phil"... people took it seriously.

jfc that’s horrific they should’ve sued they put her and her fetus’ health in danger

He told the nazi they "should know better" then to radicalize other people. It's crazy that he really thought that.

By that logic if I'm right leaning but I tolerate left leaning people then I'm left leaning.

@@MrKarateHandlesYouIt shouldn’t really have ro be pointed out why you’re wrong - nazis want to segregate humanity according to inherent characteristics and ultimately rid society entirely of those they consider inferior. Accepting this means not standing in the way when people are deported, incarcerated and even murdered due to their inherenr characteristics, effectively making the outcomes of your position identical to those of the nazi’s. A leftist is a much more vague term where if we’re talking about socialism or communism it’s just alternative modes of production, but assuming we’re talking about attitudes to minorities and ethnicities, leftists wants injustices based on ethnicity, sexuality, gender, gender and a plethora of other inherent characteristics to be eliminated. Accepting leftists, in this context means not standing in the way of eliminating such injustices, or in other words, not actively working to maintain essentialized injustices as others attempt to eliminate them. This means that accepting leftism doesn’t contribute positively to the leftist cause, but not accepting it certainly actively contributes to maintaining said injustices to not accept it.

@@bewing77 here's the part where you missed my point; this take lacks nuance and is board. Tolerating means to withstand, not sharing ideals. OP's comment relates to anything being the same based on tolerating alone and that's what's wrong. What you brought up was completely pointless. Edit: spelling corrections

@@MrKarateHandlesYou if you thought about this comparison for like two seconds it wouldnt be hard to realize that those two things arent comparable and it means nothing. your statement means nothing. there is no societal and humanitarian harm to having leftist ideals, unlike literal fucking nazis and bigots.

...called her a breeder when she literally got rid of the fetus...

It's why as much as people try to glorify it, I don't miss the edgy, cringe days of KZfaq where people said offensive shit under the guise of comedy or being edgy. It's almost no surprised that a good chunk of creators from that time ended up being awful people later on or just wanting to distance themselves from older content. Alot of the 2000s KZfaq content did not age well at all.

There are many Omegle KZfaqrs who do that same thing. There are many who have anti SJWs ideas such as making fun of feminists which you could literally search up and find so many. Don Stever was one I used to watch. He basically makes fun of kids, furries, emos, goths, femboys, vegans, feminists, cosplayers, and dream stand just for money. He says he’s trying to help gen z when he says I don’t give a shit when he asks a question and calling them fatherless which isn’t helping. He’s scared that gen z is having progressive and expressing themselves. I saw an another who makes fun of Disney Adults and he looks like the mean popular kid in his senior year of highschool.

This kind of entertainment never stopped lmao, it's just presented differently now. Everything is still either surface-level progressivism taped over the "can't we all just be nice?" message, exploitation and/or fetishism disguised as raising awareness, or """subversive""" edginess.

To defend The Simpsons... it was a satire show. It didn't pretend to be "helping people"... or trying to show "proper behaviour"... It was what it was... showing unreasonable situations for amusement of the audience. However, the writing progressively became worse to the point it became dysfunctional after the 10th season. *Shrugs* Jerry Springer was just fake guests after fake guests. Dr. Phil, Maury, and other similar "talk shows" on the other hand were there primarily for the entertainment. "You are _not_ the mother!" That line never gets old. Yet, people enjoy watching the suffering of others, why do you think public torture/execution was a big thing several hundred years ago, lol. We humans haven't changed that much... just what types of suffering we laugh at now. *Shrugs*

As a mixed race person, it pisses me off how as minorities, we're just expected to be forever compassionate towards bigoted white people. We're told that racism will go away if we stop talking about it. I'm also a transgender man, and I'm tired of how my right to exist is viewed as a debate that has two sides. We're always accused of having an agenda or being too political, yet our very existence is viewed as political and inherantly sexual, even when we're children.

@@doctordavidchan1044you definitely hit the nail on the head. It’s part of the American pathology. “MLK was martyred for their sins and ended slavery so now racism doesn’t exist”. It’s awful, all oppressed people have the right to self defense by any means necessary. Those in the group with power would never consider living like those they subject, the entire American mythos of revolution and freedom is built around that fact. Fanon’s chapter “on violence” in “The Wretched of the Earth” that really breaks this down in a way I could never do. Worth reading if you can.

I found that entire exchange very triggering. There's this irrational expectation for POC, especially Black women, to take on the "merciful" role in response to racism. It's an actual trope that exists, and it only sets us up for failure by contextualizing our valid anger as something irrational or something we should "rise above". I actively choose anger and intolerance towards bigots for this reason, because clearly, being gracious towards people who don't spare us the same behavior has not and will not ever work in our favor.

@@doctordavidchan1044 never stop talking about it! Seeing both side will never work when one is for freedom and the safety while the other fosters hate. Sending solidarity and strength to you!

@@kurlykayla9013 anger is productive and you’re so right. I commend you, it takes a lot to continue in that fight. Especially when other people become complicit by not saying anything.

I was fucking cracking up when he started his “Would you hate me just because I’m white 🥺” shit

he looked so sad about it too 😭

Imagine if she just stared blankly at him and said, "Why yes, yes it does." 😂 Dr. Phil probably would've had a tantrum.

@@becca867 "That offends my sensibilities." And the other indignant or sanctimonious bullshit he usually says.

Yes Phil we all hate you. It's not cus you're white

@@heckssoda588Your fatphobia is showing.

And the gay woman would get the very heterosexual experience of having sex with a straight woman, just like straight men do. Everybody learns a lesson.

Get this man a crestive director position now.

@@cactus2260 Don't put this on the toothpaste industry, they have it hard already.

Wildest comment ever made

Reality TV is about doing everything you can to keep up the ratings, which means giving people the worst of humanity to laugh at.

“Look we’re doing the shocking bad thing but for GOOD REASONS, we’re so terrible that it proves we’re good.” Gave people permission to watch a train wreck but also the self gratifying feeling of being on the “enlightened” side.

@@limner123 It's even weirder when there's a famous black person encouraging it - See Tyra Banks with America's Next Top Model blackface. And believe me, she had no one pushing her to do this on the show. The 90s and early 2000s had this really weird vibe that you could somehow solve racism with shit like this. There's an entire goddamn show, though I forget the name of it, where a black family and a white family have to live in the same house, but not only that, they made the black family do white-face makeup(not saying it's worse, no other way to describe it concisely) and the white family do black-face makeup to force them to shallowly experience what it's like being white or black.

please don't believe the hype 🎵

Yes, actually they were. I don't miss this era of television.

Or literally just abusing/bullying the test subjects until you get the result you wanted in the first place. A lot of social experiments are designed to confirm a pre-existing bias.

if i was her i would have said yes

"No, Phil, I don't hate you because of your skin color. I hate you because of who you are as a person."

It's like guys who hear the word men and immediately take it personally. Older black people have been burned many times before, if you actually talk to any one of them they don't hate all white people, they hate white people that carry that air of privilege and superiority over others, which is a sadly large group. We see the way people look at urban areas and call us thugs, but a criminal of another color is just misunderstood or it's their upbringing. Again, not all white people, but the immediate "Well, _I'm_ not like that" and getting aggressively defensive doesn't help.

The look on her face kind of said it all. "If you're going to be like that, we might have a problem, Dr. Phil!" is her thought right then I bet

I caught that too, you hate white people? So we have a problem then?

I was literally just thinking that lol

Didn't he also appoint a woman captain so the men would be sexist about being subservient to a woman, but in reality they were just chill and listened to her because she knew more about the subject? And then he got mad about it?

How many people are walking around with such a warped view of "human nature"?

And shout out to the fact that the researcher ruined the sex raft's vibe so much that they actually started considering whether or not to murder him cause he kept doing shit like using slurs to create conflict. Meanwhile, they were just vibing and having secret orgies

I think they’re were actually planning to kill him (I could be misrembering if it was that far) because he was getting really nasty and was being racist to one of the women to cause a fight. So there was fighting and at least thought about murder, but purely because of him.

Blacks are the most racist

Most racist people, and bigots have a complete lack of empathy and can't see the world from a different perspective, that includes conservatives, with their punch down talking points, they have a very limited perspective

The “experiment” was ruined 10 minutes in because Phil interrupted their decision making and more or less joined the group. As the facilitator he should not be involved. He clearly didn’t pay attention to undergrad psych

I'm honestly pretty sure if he just let things go as normal then it would have just turned into "The Sex Raft" experiment, where a group of strangers were put on a boat with women in positions of authority to prove something about sexism and degeneracy or something. But, turns out, if you put people in a room together then they eventually just start to understand eachother's feelings and bond as a group? So instead of it being this big mess like the guy behind it wanted, it just turned into people hanging out and becoming friends over this weird shared experience. People in the House of Hate are literally trying to talk things out, like they're working through their issues and challenging their preconceptions already. The racist guy probably won't stop being racist, but it seems like he could tell he's not going to get anywhere and he'd have to reflect on what he was actually accomplishing. If shouting at the black woman doesn't do anything and just makes him angry, then he'd have to reconsile with that and learn to live with her. And that's a completely valid result, these might be the first steps towards slowly deradicalizing someone and showing them that exceptions exist that challenge their existing biases. But then here comes Dr. Phil, looking to stir the pot so he can get more drama for his show, and he's here to do this weird 'hate' exercise just to keep tensions high. Because it's always about him. It's only 'good therapy' if HE is the one solving the problem, so he manufactures situations where he can keep things going until the end of the 'experiment'. It's extremely telling that this is just how he feels like he HAS to do things even though there's a perfectly fine and honestly kind-of interesting premise already right there if they just wanted to let it play out and honestly follow the results. This man has never cared about helping people. He's only concerned with making himself out to be the hero, no matter how much he has to play the villain to get to that point.

"retiring". Don't worry, He'll find a way to get into a position to do even more damage.

Humans are multifaceted , just because they hate a certain group doesn't mean they're gonna spew it outta their mouth all day

That Turnabout Ranch, to which he sent troubled teens to sort them out, is bad news to more teens.

Y'all see he announced a new network and show today....

He's in really bad shape, physically. I've seen him and robin walking through the paramount back lot between stages. He looks like he's going to kneel over any minute. And robin looks like a stick figure bobblehead

Couldn’t help notice that the only time he was rendered “speechless” was the moment he was supposed to condemn the white supremacist. He was far from speechless the other 99.9% of the time

Minorities are just as capable of being bigoted as majorities, there’s no need to distinguish between the two

@@mohammadazzawi2738its not to the same systemic extent tho 💀

it's not to a systemic extent, straight people are not persecuted anywhere in the world, there isn't institutions or religions that works everyday to make it harder to be straight, you can't compare them@@mohammadazzawi2738

​@mohammadazzawi2738 😂😂😂😂 good one 😂😂😂😂

LMAO i would unironically love to see a show like that

Best comment. After watching the video I was actually kind of bummed out, so thanks for the laugh.

Totally agree!!

This should just be a show in general, ‘Phil and the Real Doctor’ a play by play dunking and debunking of Phil’s bullshit.

Fr I’m on Tessa’s side lmao

I knew people who did that. It got complicated when straights in our circles didn’t or couldn’t have children, and the gays were propagating.

Queen

@@crepequeen643 same, i'm straight but she's right

What makes it so funny to me is gay people can still breed.

"Therapeutic" blackface and fat suits, etc. was a big TV trend back then.

Blackface skinhead Gary was my username on Xbox live

You sound like you’d have valuable insight on the topic.

Your defence of these people goes out the window when your relize jon the fat guy is still around. He has a youtube and a tik tok. and he is every bit the horrible person this show said he was. He is also recently doing the rounds as an alleged groomer. So he is likely a chomo as well.

@BaxiBestBoi Thanks for informing people but this was a completely random comment to reply to. Your point is also pretty irrelevant to the video? Not that you shouldn’t bring it up, but it doesn’t actually discredit any of the arguments made in the video or in any comments I’ve seen. Discriminating against somebody for something specific isn’t okay just because the person they’re discriminating against also happened to be a horrible person in other ways. Nobody’s saying that Jon is a perfect guy who can do no wrong, I haven’t seen a single person say that, people are just saying it’s kind of messed up how his fatness was portrayed on this specific show, because this show is what we’re talking about right now, and the way people are portrayed on this show could have reinforced negative (and often unfair) beliefs about fat people. And in the case of the comment you’re responding to, literally nobody mentioned Jon or fatness in any way. I understand your concern, but I’ve seen this comment in the replies of several threads, and it was unnecessary in every case I saw it, so I just don’t really know what the purpose is. Maybe just make your own comment and leave it at that, rather than replying to completely random threads with the same unrelated thing? Joel did also acknowledge that Jon isn’t a good person and said bad things on the show. He just also didn’t like the aspect of the show that demonized Jon for things completely unrelated. You can think both.

I didn't see any discrimination in the comment you replied to so I guess you typed this all for no reason.@@dali-dog

@@ALotOfCancer oh no, I wasn't saying that the comments were discriminating in any way, sorry for the confusion. I was just pointing out that the purpose of the video and many comments *isn't* to defend everything that the people on the House of Hatred have ever done and say that they're perfect (or even good) people. Joel's video is mainly talking about how nonsensical and unfair the House of Hatred was, one aspect of that being how poorly Jon was treated and portrayed specifically for his fatness, and the comment I was replying to has been replying to multiple comment threads just letting people know that Jon isn't a good person (which Joel already pretty much acknowledged and said it was besides the point of the video, which it is, because the video is specifically about House of Hatred, not how good or bad of a person Jon is). Again, I totally understand why they want to let people know that Jon is a bad person, I'm just saying it seems a little random and doesn't actually debunk any of the points made in the video or comment section. And saying "your defense of these people goes out the window when you realize..." makes it seem like they're trying to debunk somebody, but nobody's defending anybody, so who are they talking to? Random example: if a person who happened to be black did something bad, I obviously wouldn't defend them just because they're black. However if people take their bad action as an opportunity to be racist towards them and perpetuate racist ideas, I sure as hell am going to call that out because it's never appropriate. If somebody then came up to me and said "well actually you shouldn't be defending them because they're a bad person", they're being silly. I'm not defending their actions, people are free to criticize them or even hate them for their actions, I'm just saying that discriminating against them specifically based on their identity is wrong no matter who they are or what they've done. And that's why I think it's weird that this person I'm replying to keeps acting like people are trying to defend Jon as a person. They're not, they're saying fatphobia and ableism is bad, and fatphobia and ableism was in the show targeted towards Jon. I hope that makes sense. It's not a big deal or anything, just thought it was out of place. I think it would have been best if this commenter just made their own comment informing people, along the lines of "in case you aren't aware, Jon is a really bad person who's still on the internet and has done all these horrible things" rather than basically accusing random people of defending him, and in the process brushing away any nuanced discussion of the House of Hatred.

I'm 23. I have memories of being threatened of Dr. Phil being used as a "call" whenever I was being a well... annoying 6 year old... Sure, my parents convinced me a TV remote was an actual phone... Oh wait that's kinda even more dystopian. I resent... a lot of that.

right after 9/11, I was called a "terrorist" in school for being in the Young Democrats. Like, I'm not kidding. I would be walking down the hallways and people would scream it at me.

@@XXMatt0040XXthreatening to call Dr Phil when you were SIX years old is so fucked up! I mean, it would be at any age, but especially that young. While you’re just behaving and reacting to your environment as any six year old would. My son is six and half now and I couldn’t imagine “disciplining” him like that. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that. Hopefully you’re in a better place now.

It was not a very inquiring time. If you were straight and shy, your sexual orientation was brought into question.

America has been dystopian since the cold war. 9/11 was when the true colors showed.

underrated comment

Perfectly put

Imagine watching Dr Phil

One might even call him...big

To be fair it’s not going to Dr Phil.

@@HiBuddyyyyyynobody said it was lol

@@ItBeThatWaySometimes I never saw any dr Phil shows, I thought there was a live audience in one of them? I meant that they probably did paid to watch him anyway.

Your mom neglected your health because she watched a TV show. I guess it's easier for you to misplace the blame then face reality.

God you have no idea how hard I relate to this. I had a similar experience with my mother (who also suffers from several undiagnosed/diagnosed mental health problems) and it left me with some very damaging responses to my own mental health struggles. It also was so detrimental to her political views in a lot of cases even though it was more subtle. But yeah I feel for you a lot. So irresponsible of him and his team to put stuff like this out as a handbook for uninformed parents.

​@@nikkimcdonald4562Nowhere in there did the OP misplace blame. Be less of an asshole.

​​@@nikkimcdonald4562 You being a d*ck is completely unnecessary. Obviously her mother is responsible, but Dr Phil's show had a *huge* cultural impact for over two decades! Dozens of former guests on the show have talked about how they were manipulated, humiliated, and never actually given *any* help. He presents himself as a mental health professional, but he's a con artist who only cares about fame and money. How about holding him responsible for the shit he's done?!

@@nikkimcdonald4562 No, I face reality. I know she was a horrible, neglectful mother. But I do have to admit that even if she used Dr. Phil as a scapegoat, he did play a role. But again, my point was that I am one of the lucky ones that was impacted by him. A very lucky one. The real tragedy are the ones that had actual interactions with him - went to the camps, on his show, etc.

Oh you just made my night. NAILED it!! 😂 👏👏👏 Edit: Now I need a Derek/Phil collab 😳💀💀 Edit edit: oh oh and Mrs. Phil can loosen the stitches and play the evil old woman 😮

Now I need Daddy Derek on Dr Phil

He doesn't fit in with the YMS lineup because his conservative cruelty towards and constant exploitation of people with serious mental health issues and otherwise terrible living conditions makes his show so thoroughly unpleasant that it sets a very small hard upper limit on how much comedy per capita can be milked from its gangrenous teats before you're only milking out blood, pus and instant retraumatization for 90% of your viewer base.

@@MrPiccoloku YMS supports zoophilia AKA animal abuse. Just wanted to remind you and/or inform you.

​@@godscrotchgoblin Daddy Derek bringing Cool Cat on the show as he goes through his rebellious teenager arc 😂

It was truly a different time

You're not wrong. I'm still haunted by 'There's Something About Miriam'. RIP.

Japan was off the chain with it in that era

They came up with Fear Factor

And then KZfaq got big and filled the same niche

Totally like a South Park episode or SNL skit about him.

It genuinely feels like two poop jokes away from being a South Park episode

An old SNL Saturday TV Funhouse

I could honestly see a SpongeBob episode that’s a toned down version of this, where Squilliam is responsible for the events.

@@Zulf85Cartman is there.

He wanted to find people more racist than he was but despite his best efforts absolutely failed.

@@MauseDaysHave you just been copy-pasting this everywhere?

@@MauseDays Not defending anyone, the bigots on this show are definitely racist and homophobic and disgusting. Simply saying it's odd for Dr. Phil to present himself as this virtuous guy who knows how to get rid of bigotry when it's so obvious that he pretty obviously shares some similar bigoted beliefs and more broadly seems to have absolutely no idea what makes bigotry bigotry in the first place.

he has collected all the bigotries. that is why he is the Arbiter of Bigotry

So like the Stanford Prison Experiment then?

​@@mindacarpenter2996the SPE set out to show how people will abuse positions of power. It did, but it turned out to be the experimenter more than the participants

That's literally what happened in the Stanford prison experiment

@@meowntown69 Yeah, doesn’t that kinda poison the data of the experiment? If so, then those boys suffered for nothing.

Dr Oz, Phil, and others came to my city, went to a homeless encampment and said “I am now entering the gates of hell” and exploited the homeless addicts for ratings and DGAF about helping. They razed the encampment but did nothing to solve shit. So they just moved the problems out onto the streets instead of getting them help.

The swastikka is an Indian religious symbol.

​​@@rnw2739something tells me that a white supremacist wouldn't have it tattooed for that reason...

Are we sure he was locked up FOR a hate crime? Prison gangs (that do those tattoos) are divided by race and the prisoners join them for survival.

@@rnw2739 Used in native American art, too. Used to be called the "rolling log" but they stopped using it after WWII. He probably got those in prison. Prison gangs are divided along racial lines.

@@marthademovimaus5140 His dad is a skinhead and passed his racism to his son. He says this in the video. Why are you making up a fake excuse for the white supremacist?