Evony The King's Return - Layering Guide

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Evony The King's Return - Layering Guide
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@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching my video, feel free to check out the rest of my guides and also ask questions in the comments for anything you may need!
@rickrolled964
@rickrolled964 4 жыл бұрын
I was just gonna ask you to post somthn like this lmaooo thanks lad
@trademark81
@trademark81 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there - i would love to get your opinion for monarch gear (while doing pvp attack, or playing defence shenanigans). I bet with your layering sheet, ATK-Buffs on monarch gear go to ranged. But im not quite sure, if its in my best interest, that i buff the HP/DEF with Grail and Decoration as well on Ranged. Arent the other troop types supposed to stop the enemy troops getting to my ranged? Whats your opinion on that?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
Other troop types are integral to your attacking army as well as defending your city. Although ranged tend to be better, at the very least due to a lot of players having much more mounted troops than others. You will need siege to increase your potency for sure and increasing the stats for those are great too, only if you have a lot of high level siege though. Mounted tend to be bad for PvP unless you really know how to use them effectively on attack, which can be difficult. In general, increasing your ranged stats first before any other for PvP is the best choice but always be keeping other troops one or two steps behind. Monarch gear is one piece of the puzzle and doesn't have to be thought of that hard, you can use Ares monarch gear if you wanted to keep the buffs more even or go for the ranged buffs if that's what you need. I personally use both depending on the situation but rarely use monarch gear that is only for ground/siege.
@stevenjf
@stevenjf 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still struggling my way through understanding everything with this game but I’m doing my best with your excellent help. You talk about ranged & siege troops , can you clarify what troop descriptions these actually relate to please as I can’t see them described as such in my barracks for eg. I woke up this morning & all my troops had been killed in the night! Seems a little unfair. How can I protect myself from this? I have tried to keep upgrading walls & my keep. I haven’t attacked anyone on my own yet as I really don’t understand how to do this probably as it’s seems quite involved. Should I just dive in? I’ve mainly focused on gathering & some alliance attacks. Apologies for so many questions!
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
These troops are the archers (ranged) and Siege from the workshop building. You will want to check out my gem guide for some options for earning them, although it does not show every possible way. These gems can be used in the city buff screen of the keep building to apply truce agreements. These items allow you to be completely protected from enemies attacking you, i also suggest you overlap these truce agreement items to ensure you are never unprotected.
@becca7455.
@becca7455. 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job..Players definitely need more advanced guides. This game is extremely complex.. I was wondering about troop amounts other players suggest that you should have the same amount of all four types..You thoughts?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. You need everything when you are a large player, but even then no where near equal, unless you are very large needing multiple marches for each troop type. If you are below 1B you need lots of mounted for Bosses, lots of ranged to kill other peoples mounted which tends to mean the other two are left for another time, of course you still need a decent amount though to stay competitive. A general cannot be the best at everything, you have to make them good with 1 or 2 troop types, therefore you must stack them with those troop types or lose effectiveness
@becca7455.
@becca7455. 3 жыл бұрын
I am a slightly chunky 34k just upgraded this event. Almost half a billion. I do have 1,375,000 in t13 Cavs and been working on my ground. My arc always seem to die..and yes my tech is good at 9.1... speaking of that.. The military tree didnt aid in killing bosses or monsters..
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
Well ground and siege would be killing your archers i assume, building ground is great for Defense if you can afford it at your level but that might not entirely change your issue with losing ranged a lot. Your stats always matter so im not sure what you mean by researching not helping.. it can be very little change sometimes until you get to a very certain %/troop amount, then wounded could go to zero, but you should still see a difference with your research increases
@trialnsuffering9731
@trialnsuffering9731 3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to ask about applying this “Layering” in building traps?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I am not certain about the effectiveness of this and most likely is not going to be nearly as worthwhile as troop layering, feel free to build 1k of everything if you wanted
@samahmd5400
@samahmd5400 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , I saw a video about layering and I’m a bit confused , not a bit actually. Someone told me not to worry about layering till I’m k 27 and that I for EX can have 25 thousands of each lower troops. My K is 23 and I have few hundreds of troops below level 6 and my troops are mainly mounted, should I go back and train lower levels troops to have them as layers to protect my higher level ones ? Is layering useful for both defense and attack ? I need 7 days speed up and I’m not getting them despite using money , any idea why or who to get them because it take too long for a keep building to finish and that’s killing me 😅. Can I mention you in the layering video so you can see what I’m talking about ? . Do you have a video where you talk about report’s reading ? cause not everyone playing the game is an expert , I myself is a beginner and playing it for the first time . Thank you 🙏🏻.
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I do have a report reading video at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7BnZ82Xy7DWfn0.html this is an older video and so you may need to ask additional questions to get everything! If you are keep 23 you need not layer whatsoever, you should be waiting until a minimum of Keep 25 before training quite a few troops (not too many), this does not include layering at this keep level either. I suggest starting a little at keep 27 but the layering effect only truly begins to help a lot at keep 32. I suggest heavily going after building speed improvements through research and capturing europium subordinate cities to make the upgrades easier for you. Also be sure to kill as many boss monsters as possible to get speed ups! If you want me to look at the video feel free
@samahmd5400
@samahmd5400 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides Thank you ❤️
@samahmd5400
@samahmd5400 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iLJ0iNuA2bLXfYE.html . I want to know your opinion cause I kind of depend on your videos mostly and I saw that he has high numbers of lower troops and I don’t. And as I told you keep 23 power 14 Now and I have only few hundreds of levels below 6 abd I don’t know how many troops I suppose to have for ranged , mounted and ground . Unfortunately no video has helped me with that .
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I see some people in facebook groups and other places mentioning to practically only train Tier 1 siege troops for gathering (up to 800k) to ensure you have a "low" upkeep cost and can gather a ton of resources, quickly leveling yourself up to keep 32-35. This is more or less a good idea, there are some issues with it such as how boring it will be for 6 months though. If you want to strike a balance between that idea and also be able to kill bosses yourself and fight somewhat.. you can absolutely train up to 500k troops (mostly T10.. not T9!). Any more than this will cause you to have a lot of upkeep cost and make it easier for people to kill your troops permanently, rather than them going to your hospital which only has a certain capacity. As Tiers lower than 10 cannot be upgraded, without the need of building new ones, it is always best to hold off on making too many of the lower tiers first. It should be your priority to kill bosses, participate in events when possible and gather resources to get to keep 25. Layering only starts to work in your favor when players cannot kill your entire army in one hit, therefore layering absurd amount of troops is a waste of time and resources early game. Although layering will start to become good for myself soon, I have in previous months dismissed lower troops to improve my upkeep problem. You can always train those troops in the future. This persons video is okay, but only really serves those that already half know what they are doing at a minimum, which sometimes i probably do also to be fair. Once you get a better grasp on the game you may find more value in some of my videos as well as the other guys. Again, Concentrate on having enough troops to gather resources and kill some bosses while upgrading that keep level! Layering will mean more to you in 6 months!
@samahmd5400
@samahmd5400 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides I highly appreciate your opinions and your videos are my main source of information and guide . Thanks a lot .
@DM-2630
@DM-2630 3 жыл бұрын
Hi just wanted to ask how this layering works properly on pvp? Do you mean on the table you show that is the stat to fill in on every general and attack the player 10x? I am really getting confused on how properly execute your plan on layering. Can show it please how it's done. Thank you.
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
When layering on attack it helps to send ALL tiers of ALL troop types to give yourself a better chance at saving higher level troops from death/injury etc. If you send too many of the lower tiers or too many of a troop type that is not your primary troop type for that attack, you may actually lose more troops that regularly. I suggest taking the percentages shown as a guide for how many of each troop type to send between ALL tiers. For instance sending 60% ranged troops with 40% being your highest tier at least to ensure maximum killing potential while also giving yourself a portion of layered troops. If you are below keep 32/T13 troops then I don't believe that layering is going to help a ton so feel free to just use the highest tier of troops mostly with only a flat rate of 1000 of each other troop tier and type. I would say layering is more so effective on defense, as this enables you to use mass amounts of lower tiered troops to increase your damage (as long as you don't die in the first battle). Again this is only worth doing up to 10,000 troops per tier/type until keep 30+ then you can train much more. It is very hard to explain the entirety of layering so if you still are confused please try to ask more specific questions about what you do not understand just yet
@DM-2630
@DM-2630 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides Thank you for your quick reply I understand now what you mean about layering. Just another query what is the best set up of troops for pvp, sub city and bosses and how many amounts of troops does layering apply to this set up. Thank you.
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
When a server begins people end up focusing largely on mounted troops to kill bosses with, which means the newer your server the better it will be to train mass ranged to beat everyone mounted. At some point you will find people training other troop types that may make ranged not as effective sometimes and therefore you need to go with the flow on that to keep up to date with your server/ enemy servers. I currently do not even train troops because i am leveling buildings, depending on your situation you can choose your own setup up but do bare in mind the excel sheet in the video and the percentages used can be used as a guide for PvP purposes however obviously you need mounted troops for bosses on top of that also. Sub cities train their own troops and don't need to be touched really. I suggest, for defensive purposes, layering up to 10% of your entire army being T10 and below minimum. When you are over 300M power you could begin to have more T10 and below than you actually have in higher tiers if you wanted. Although all this advice really is best taken after being K32 and 100M power+ minimum
@DM-2630
@DM-2630 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides Thank you for your reply it's very informative like me with a keep 26 to 27 just wandering if this will apply. I will try it to see if it's worth or I will just wait until k32. Actually I dont want to train troops until I reach level 32 but I just feel ashamed when someone ask just to do their RT I cannot even kill for them that's is why is it ideal to train at least a troop that can kill those bosses and RT or it's just a waste if time and rss. What is your advice. Thank you for your time. Cheers!
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I have been able to kill them for a long time even though i haven't had keep 32 for ages yet. This is good that i can kill those and help out with vikings/bosses but if you are already in a bigger alliance it isn't always necessary (you can just mooch off of everyone elses mounted power). If you can rely on others to do those things then you can save yourself time and effort in the short term to redirect that effort to keep 32
@stevenjf
@stevenjf 3 жыл бұрын
Apologies for asking a question in the wrong place but I’m confused as to how I attack a major boss / monster. The game tells me I have a low chance of beating them. Where do I find one of your brilliant videos that deals with this please? Thanks 👍
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I do have an old video for regular monsters here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbhkY6d3lcyahp8.html . Although some information may be outdated or not applicable to bosses, so I will mention some things here also. When attacking a boss monster you will want to use One Tier of Mounted ONLY for best results. This means you will also want to train many mounted troops of the same tier to use against these bosses of course. When looking to increase their effectiveness make sure to increase mounted stats via Monarch gear, Generals, General gear, and research to name a few. When attacking Boss Monsters you should be able to see their power level, when adding your army to the march, compare the march's power to the monster's power. You will want at least 50% of the power that the monster has to have a good chance of succeeding.
@31ayushthakur37
@31ayushthakur37 4 жыл бұрын
Does more than one army camp gives any benefits because when ever I train my troops it gives me maximum quantity of 1830 but I have 5 army camps each of level 18 which gives 280 of training capacity with 9 per. of speed and still takes 9 Hr
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 4 жыл бұрын
They absolutely do give additional buffs for each one, you may find it won't significantly reduce your training times necessarily due to it increasing training capacity at the same time
@dennisrodriguez3689
@dennisrodriguez3689 3 жыл бұрын
The more troops the longest the time. If you still have 9 Hr of training for more troops that means they are training faster.
@shaimam.d8009
@shaimam.d8009 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the videos! Quick question: one of my alliance members cant train mounted troops at all. And i have reached out to evony but their answers don’t make sense. What is the reason that he cant train mounted at all. Only ground and archers. I hope you can help. Thanks!
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I might need screenshots of any errors they have, or if anything is locked/not built. I could only imagine they simply did not build a stables building yet because I have not heard of this issue before. It's hard to give an answer without any more information about the issue
@shaimam.d8009
@shaimam.d8009 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides Thanks for responding! Evony finally understood the question. They kept on saying you need more army camps but it was a bug that lasted for a good week. They fixed it 😊
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😀
@guldeded.5910
@guldeded.5910 3 жыл бұрын
Merhaba 👋🏻 K25 Power 38M March-219.500 +(10.400) 1 defa yürüyüş katmanı nasıl olmalı ? T1 den t8 e kadar ne olmalı ? T9 ne olmalı ve en son T10 ne yapmalıyım ? Yardımınızı bekliyorum 🙏🏻
@GEDC77
@GEDC77 3 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm Lv27 - 40m power and I'm a bit lost with this layering business. Should I just layer with the percentages in the bottom of your excel for attack?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
The short answer is yes. It will depend on if you have enough troops of each type to actually use those percentages though. Also remember that the percentages are a total so split that nicely between the troop tiers as shown in the documents
@GEDC77
@GEDC77 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides ​ Not sure if I got the percentages right but having a little meat shield worked like a charm, thank you! I got Yue Fei is it worth investing on him or wait for another ground attack general?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
@@GEDC77 That's great! Always be mindful if your ranged troops are not killing much which can be seen in the reports, you may be sending too many ground/mounted OR it might just be you are going up against a much weaker opponent. The general you mention is not going to be the best option for PvP as he does not necessarily have much going for him in the ranged department, which is the preferred troop type for most PvP. I would recommend going for Li Shimin in the tavern or if you're spending.. try to get gwangaeeto, elektra, alfred etc
@GEDC77
@GEDC77 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides I have a decent Elektra 1.6m working on the dragon gear now. Will not invest time on Yue Fei... What about Andrew Jackson?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
@@GEDC77 andrew jackson is a pretty good Subordinate mayor.. although there is little reason to increase their stats or skill books when a sub mayor
@glen_coco6110
@glen_coco6110 2 жыл бұрын
Silly Question about layers during svs- if we use lower troops, assuming they will be wounded and end up in hospital first and if the hospital gets full as a result....does this not mean that the later higher level troops injured would be killed ?
@GojoSan21
@GojoSan21 2 жыл бұрын
My teammates usually fill their hospital up with T1 so they can revive their troops using SOL..
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 2 жыл бұрын
its a complicated system but generally higher tiers fill it first, even if at odds with the layering idea
@cizariofuller1532
@cizariofuller1532 3 жыл бұрын
IN TOTAL - I'm K25 now. How much of each Tier type would you advise me to have in my base?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
If you would like to still participate in PvP and kill bosses etc.. 100k ranged/mounted t10 and 40k siege/ground. Then have 2-5k of everything else of all tiers. Although you could also literally just have 600k T1 siege and just gather only to get lots of resources to build up quicker (but be unable to fight). It's up to you and what you want to do
@cizariofuller1532
@cizariofuller1532 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely PvP and Kill Bosses
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
Although in this case you could build more than what i said, do just weigh that up with the fact the more you build, the quicker you will fall behind in getting new tiers of troops (keep 27 and 30)
@cizariofuller1532
@cizariofuller1532 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. But considering that K27 and K30 arent in the near future. Il have to work with what I got right now. Il probably only upgrade to K26 when I have the gems to purchase a dragon.
@cizariofuller1532
@cizariofuller1532 3 жыл бұрын
So with your new revised information. Should a full March of T10 - Cavary/Mounted be sufficient. And what amounts of the rest?
@alecol5639
@alecol5639 3 жыл бұрын
Is there anywhere i can download those spreadsheets?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I am not currently at home and therefore it is unlikely i can find them saved somewhere online for now
@sebastiantschatordai
@sebastiantschatordai 3 жыл бұрын
"Ogres have layers." Shrek
@landers3292
@landers3292 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do guide on sub city generals uses for pvp?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 4 жыл бұрын
Sure! In the mean time you can look at my best generals video which also includes Subordinate city generals, all of which should be DEBUFF generals (their default skill book says reduces) this includes nero, empress cixi, andrew jackson, cnut the great, amininus and more! Gear and skill books not needed unless you get yourself some debuff gear spare to add to them!
@jamesbond7732
@jamesbond7732 3 жыл бұрын
Can Sherman be used as a sub general? Wondering if you can stack his wounded to death debuff.
@regnag445
@regnag445 3 жыл бұрын
Is layering technique applicable on boss/monster hunting??
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
No it actually hurts your ability to kill them
@regnag445
@regnag445 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides thanks, and keep doing what youre doin
@Ummmm413
@Ummmm413 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to this spreadsheet?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
I do not have this spreadsheet anymore, or at least i cannot find it unfortunately
@i2sbhd851
@i2sbhd851 2 жыл бұрын
I’m keep 16 how Manu army camps should I build?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 2 жыл бұрын
I personally would build 4-5 of these, if you wanted more later on it is an option to remove some resource tiles. Although it isnt necessary.
@wlndxitizsu6451
@wlndxitizsu6451 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about recalling deserters
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
It is unlikely I will get to this video particularly soon as it is fairly simple to recall deserters. Once you have deserters you will begin to produce recalling horns inside your holy palace, after you produce enough, you will have a button to press inside the holy palace to recall all (or some) troops. You can increase your production and how many troops you may recall at once with research
@HarryG70
@HarryG70 Жыл бұрын
Where have you gone, not seen you in ages
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides Жыл бұрын
I had always wanted to continue with content, however the developers of the game do not support creators. The game itself is not fun after a long time playing and those two things together make it difficult to justify making new videos often.
@HarryG70
@HarryG70 Жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides you should live stream on twitch. They might change there minds and give you support
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides Жыл бұрын
@@HarryG70 Unfortunately this will not help. They provide very little help to anyone, no matter what platform you are on. In my opinion it does not make business sense for them, however they still refuse to be helpful to their creators (not just me). This used to be about fun for me with the channel, however it is more so about business now as my love for the game has subsided. Their behavior in various aspects makes it difficult to justify making content if its live streams or videos. I will still make content sometime in the future I think, although it will be limited. I still answer most questions in comments so if yourself or others need help I might be able to assist.
@laraskydiver1
@laraskydiver1 3 жыл бұрын
Should I dismiss lower tier troops? I can't stand the upkeep.
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
If you are not planning on being keep 30 or above soon, you can dismiss them for sure. Although eventually you will want all tiers anyway. If you are able to stick to the higher tiers for now and keep producing food then that could be a good option for the time being
@laraskydiver1
@laraskydiver1 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides Thanks a lot! I'm recently keep 22. By the way I love your videos; they help me a lot.
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching them! Im glad they can help
@laraskydiver1
@laraskydiver1 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides Do I dismiss traps and siege as well?
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
seige yes but not traps
@ryandeane8383
@ryandeane8383 4 жыл бұрын
I’m fammmouuusssss
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed it didn't have more o's
@ryandeane8383
@ryandeane8383 4 жыл бұрын
Evony Guides look I’ll do better next time
@jwhfun2003
@jwhfun2003 3 жыл бұрын
lol I know whistlnpig, he's the same server with me
@NuelTob29
@NuelTob29 4 жыл бұрын
Did you remember with s171? Our King? You want to beat 1.6B power troops. 😅😅😅😅
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 4 жыл бұрын
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@amandamuren2033
@amandamuren2033 3 жыл бұрын
I hate my server. Any advice? I really don’t want to jump because I’ll lose my subcities. 1. It’s a newer server so we have not been into Sever wars. It’s chaotic at best and all is people just bitching and complaining. Are there other people on some older servers that have some advice? I’m praying for a server merge. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 they are sucking out the fun.
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 3 жыл бұрын
Im on a bad server also which is unfortunate however it will take a long time for a merge and if anything merges make things worse for many months due to a lot of infighting, lower rewards on bosses, events etc. If you don't have a good server it can make things very difficult so it is best to leave while it's not too late if you believe that would be better for yourself, although by going to a newer server it could be a bad one too if you are unlucky and you will be required to start from scratch. If you would like to improve your current server it may be worth setting up chats on discord/LINE to have better communication, get everyone to work towards Server vs Server and also merge non-top 5 alliances into your own to increase your strength.. as smaller alliances end up being useless tbh
@Savage_48
@Savage_48 2 жыл бұрын
That's my server S86
@31ayushthakur37
@31ayushthakur37 4 жыл бұрын
U sound like batman 🦇 😂 It's really difficult some time to understand
@EvonyGuides
@EvonyGuides 4 жыл бұрын
Would it be easier if i go for joker instead 😆
@TwelveinchChewbacca
@TwelveinchChewbacca 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvonyGuides Bane. No one cares who you are until you put on the mask...
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