How long does it take to charge it on solar? So you can't drive it during the daytime while you're charging it?

8800mi, plus, $13k. Man you got lucky.

@@aerohk Yea I spent months looking around and making deals. It has a bit more miles now though, we have driven it around quite a bit locally.

What did they give you for the trade in $200? I’ve seen these things used on lots for like 4k sticker, the dealer would have taken a 2k offer.

What were the differences between it and the Bolt? Which Bolt do you have? I have a ‘23 EUV Premier. I’m considering what I might get for the wife.

If you want EV and are just going "around town" - buy a golf cart.

@@markmonroe7330You can't drive a golf cart on the road and those don't have climate control and can't hit 80+mph either.

@@Jimster481You haven't been to Florida much I see.

Yep, we have it as a 7th car... with 6 gas cars. It is the newest car we own and overall it is great for around town and commutes. We have one of each type of car so we use the others as we need for everything else.

Agree 100% accurate. I have one and that’s exactly the case. Plus my tires uniformly went bald at 14k mikes. It’s horrible. The lack of heat pump really ruins the car. Chademo is a joke. There are very few chargers. The only reason I got one was because I got a ridiculous low lease in 2022. 0$ down. $180 a month. It’s going back to dealer in April. Good riddance.

Pretty much sums up the entire EV experience. Leaf is just worse, that’s all. The EV experience is a nightmare to begin with.

@@mongo64071 Yikes

I love my EV. Never going back to ICE. (Why do so many people assume their own experience is universal?) @@mrgurulittle7000

@@allentoyokawa9068 Did you see the comment from mongo64071 who owns one and indicated “100% accurate?” I’ve yet to see a review where cold weather doesn’t hurt range. The creator of this video indicated very slow Chademo charging. All rechargeable batteries lose capacity with charging cycles. The latest sales figure I read indicated 6,038 units sold in 2023. I’m still searching for how I am 100% wrong. Or even 10% wrong.

Definitely we will see the factors you listed on the next gen Leaf. Hopefully.🤞🤞

​@@mrgurulittle7000 you won't. Nissan's NACS announcement was glaringly limited to Ariya and other future cars. It went out of its way not to mention or imply the Leaf

@@NecrotronWell, I said next gen Leaf.

@@mrgurulittle7000 and most reports say there is no next gen leaf. All indications so far are it will be succeeded by a crossover under the Ariya. There was one report that a new car might carry the Leaf badge, but that's it. I mean think about it: Nissan has gone through 3-4 model years of the Leaf while developing the CCS Ariya and it never occurred to them to... Add a bloody CCS port?

@@Necrotron There is a next gen Leaf and it’ll be based on the “Chill-Out” concept. No one can know whether the next gen Leaf would carry a CCS or NACS, or even Chademo port, but who knows. Maybe you’re right in that the next gen Leaf would use a CCS. I’m thinking the North American version would get NACS, Europe would get CCS, and Japan would get Chademo.

didn't GM recall all bolts...

No ​@@Fals3Agent

​@@Fals3Agent If you really care about the topic, educate yourself on the details. There are some things in that campaign that I personally don't like, but simply excluding a vehicle because it's had a recall would leave you with zero options. Every manufacturer issues recalls - ICE, EV, cheap, luxury - they've all been recalled for something.

Leaf is FAR better in EVERY way

@@allentoyokawa9068 It's a piece of sheit and is the laughing stock of the EV world.... and rightfully so.

Yes the bolt is a much better car than a leaf. With chademo and no battery cooling it's not even something that should be still on the market. It's been outdated since around 2016.

It is discontinued and in the used market they are more expensive and harder to repair.

Chevy re continued it. They're going to start new production in 2025 now hard to repair that's pretty common for all new vehicles to be honest

@@mrbladesletplays well not all are as hard. The battery itself being liquid cooled is a definite barrier for battery repairs.

@@Jimster481 That's because it's really old architecture but the other thing is too Nissan leaf batteries get really bad degradation more than any of their car so by the time the car and gets 6' 7 or 10 years old The battery would have lost more than half the range.

Yes

Yup. A Bolt EV/EUV is a MUCH better EV than this thing.

100% agree

100%!

I cross shopped the bolt and the leaf. The bolt has horrible seats. Like sitting on a concrete bench. If you like that then I guess it’s ok.

Same here. I found a 2020 S with only 22,300 miles on it and it looks like a brand new car. Got it for less than 14k. I love it. If I want to I can drive almost 150 mi away which is a decent little trip somewhere and charge there or take the other car which is a hybrid.

@@higheroctave32 as my first EV I gotta say I would never go back go ICE again. I drove the family minivan the other day and it’s just awful haha

@@AlmightyPyro Exactly. Hearing the engine come on in our Fusion hybrid is grating lol. I managed to drive around a 2014 Focus Electric for 7 years and trickle charged it all night long for 2 years before installing level 2 charging until a coolant leak destroyed that battery. Driving the leaf that actually gets its estimated range is amazing and I can actually put stuff in the hatchback.

I haven't seen a bolt for such a price, also GM parts & service is much worse than Nissan and the longevity of a Bolt is very questionable while the LEAF is known to be rock solid.

@@Jimster481 There's an entire stack of them where I live (most of them being in the 13-14 thousand range, which is around 9 after the tax credit), 80% of them with less than 20k miles and with fresh batteries because of the recalls. For your weird defense of Nissan by the way, those batteries aren't thermal managed and therefore will degrade much more quickly than Chevy's and perform worse during the winter, and that's on top of them already having pathetic range and using Chademo. The Bolt's a vastly superior vehicle in several other ways too, including cargo space, rear seat capacity, safety features, etc etc. At least where I live, there's also way fewer of them sitting around and they're listed at significantly higher prices (there's exactly one Nissan Leaf within 100 miles of me that costs less than 20k, and it's still slightly more expensive than the Bolt's at nearly 15k).

Depends on where you are driving and how often you drive there. The Chevy Spark LS is extremely small and not known for reliability, it also has really trash performance. While you may have bought something cheap; it really isn't great. I'm not a fan of EV's in general but my used LEAF S Plus was honestly great a buy for me. Great performance and I can charge it at home.

Yeah, EV’s are really good for the golf course 😂

My wife uses it to commute 64 miles round trip. Yesterday we drove to a theme park and back (100 miles round trip); used 53% battery (62kwh version).

This car honestly isn't really meant for fast charging unless you are in a really cold climate. It is made for around town, commuting and errands. You charge it at home on L1 / L2.

STOP

@@allentoyokawa9068Nope. Go cry elsewhere.

Tons of people in Miami have them and have no complaints.

My leaf in Texas is fine

My wife’s leaf is fine in Las Vegas. Can’t get much hotter than that.

That's just not true. My 2018 Nissan Leaf 40kWh loses up to 30% of the battery capacity in the winter vs summer. I'm not talking about the heating, I'm simply looking at the range in the winter vs the range in the mild weather before starting the heating. My neighbour's 2020 Tesla Model 3 (non -LFP) starts off with a similar percentage loss, but due to the thermal, the capacity raises while he drives. Look it up. Now, LFP is a different animal, it will discharge OK in the cold, but it can't charge before it's hot enough, so thermal helps in case of charging or regen.

@@bytemark6508LFP with thermal management isn’t that much better considering the Model Y is much more expensive than the Leaf.

@@mrgurulittle7000I don't get it! What is the price of the Y has to do with the thermal management of the Leaf? There are a lot of other EVs that are NOT using LFP but still use thermal management, like the BOLT. Cheaper than the Leaf. And it has almost double the range of the 40kwh Leaf.

@@bytemark6508Bolt is good, but not as practical as Leaf.

​@@mrgurulittle7000 And the Sun sets at West. What's that got to do with the discussion about thermal management of the batteries?

I have the base model Plus from 2021 and it is fine. Range is great in basically all scenarios we have used it in thus far.

I haven't had issues with the battery temps during the cold or hot days. I will see during the peak of summer what it is like. Hopefully I can keep the battery health high for 10+ years and we will see where the battery market is then.

Personally I wouldn't replace it. I'd have it refurbished at a fraction of the cost of replacing it instead. A UK owner of a 10 year old Leaf, took his car to an independent EV specialist who carried out a battery pack refurbishment. The work took 4 hours, and the cost was £500. I take you hadn't heard of battery pack refurbs? The guys who did the battery refurb, even posted a video of the work being done, just to let the folks who thought you had to spend thousands on a new battery, actually isn't the case.... There is more misinformed garbage written about EV batteries than just about anything else.....

@@Brian-om2hh there is a lot of misinformation, but you have fallen victim to it. Replacing a few dead cells here and there does nothing. Very soon the others go bad as well.

There is already an adapter available that goes from CCS to Chademo.

@@Jimster481 Yes, adaptors are available....

@@Brian-om2hh Yep and so far they seem to work nicely.

It isn't 2k for a used LEAF that is 2018+. Maybe around 8k is the best price you will be able to find for a Non-plus used with a good number of miles.

The old ones really have short range and they don't look very nice. The newer one is much better looking and extremely smooth. I personally have a 2021 S Plus and it is great.

Are you implying ICE never break down at all?

There is no free money. The govt is forcing people to take money out of their pockets (taxes) to give to other people who want to buy a new car. Sounds like you are asking me to transfer money from my granddaughter's vacation fund to help you buy a car. Buy it yourself.

@greeneyesms wow, did you forget to take your meds? It was a simple question and I already have enough cars. You might consider therapy.

@@czamman I apologize. My county has a lot of people who are struggling to get by and programs that hurt them so that others can have a new car really bother me. I should not have vented in your direction.

@greeneyesms no worries, the struggle is real around here, too. Housing around here has doubled since the pandemic. Renting a mobile home today costs as much as living in a condo on the beach just a few years ago. Everything is crazy priced

150 miles range is perfect for city driving; which is what the LEAF was built for. You can commute literally 30 miles in each direction and even use part highway and not worry about degrading the battery. My wifes 64 mile commute with our S Plus uses 32-40% battery and it is 99% highway. It would use ~60% battery on a 40KWH model and again its 99% highway and has 2 major super tall bridges. Any city commute is more than taken care of. All our errands around town don't ever use more than 12% even for the furthest trip.

@@Jimster481right basically the same here with my wife’s 40KW. Except, we live in Las Vegas. We can consider that a desert climate, right. 😂 We never had issues, not with range and not with the heat.

Regular gasoline cars catch fires 80 times more per 100.000 cars compared to EVs. Oh and don’t google the batteries in airplanes, especially the B787.

One documented issue of a thermal event in 10 years of Leaf production. These aren’t fireball Tesla’s.

Now let me see.... Air travel. Cruising along in your pressurised metal tube, being propelled along by exploding chemicals. There is even risk to crossing the road, or climbing the stairs....in case you hadn't realised.....

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 The solution was to put the battery into a specially designed enclosure to contain such a battery fire, along with thermal and electrical insulation. (Boeing press release, via Google.). You can’t reasonably enclose every passenger’s laptop in special containers, thus they are prohibited from luggage compartments of planes. Unless the FAA and other aviation authorities are in error? See an excellent video by jumbo jet cargo pilot Capt. Hughes on 74 Gear KZfaq channel. He’ll explain it.

That's the dumbest thing I've read all day.

@@ricksomethingActually it’s true. The Tesla Cultists are positively delusional. But they’re fun to watch.

@@ricksomething If you think this is dumb, than you should check some fanboy channels pumping the Tesla Bot instead.

Roger is completely right. If Tesla made a slow, cost cutting ev, people would go crazy for it. Just cause of the logo.

@@ricksomething The Tesla Cultists are delusional…but fun to watch.

Nah, can buy an expensive adapter (half working). So should be ok for the time being.

@@avigdonable that adapter is ridiculously expensive, so no.

Teslas cannot be repaired the way that LEAF's can. They are also tracked 24/7 and have to be tied into Tesla systems. You are at the mercy of Tesla and what they want to do with your vehicle (including remotely disable it). Why buy a Tesla and own nothing? The LEAF can actually be repaired pretty easily and has an air cooled battery that is way easier to maintain as time goes on. They also have lots of open source and aftermarket support for the LEAF now.

What?

The bigger problem is that 50kW is only available if there's a Chademo connector which has been all but phased out, and adapters don't exist.

@@r5LgxTbQ Adapters do exist as of around 2 months ago. DALA just showed one off on his channel this past week.

I don't know how many Electrify America stations you've been to, but every one I've been to has 150 kw for CCS as the default. They only have a single connector at any given station at 50 kw for CHAdeMO... which they're in the process of getting rid of. I don't see 50 kw CCS anywhere other than EVgo. Even our state utility companies have their base fast chargers much higher than 50 kw.

@@Necrotron there is an adapter for CCS to Chademo now anyway. However the LEAF isn't a car for road trips. It's meant for city driving and commuting.

@@Jimster481 1) an adapter is meaningless if the site provider bricks it. EA has already gone on record saying they will not permit and will block any adapters not from an OEM from use on their network. StateofCharge has multiple videos about this involving the third party Tesla/CCS adapters before Tesla offered their own. If it's not from Nissan, expect it to brick when the network provider catches on. 2) if Nissan did not intend for it to go long distance, they would not have started offering a 60+ kwh pack nor would they have increased the DC fast charge rate to 100 kw (despite no one having a 100 kw CHAdeMO kiosk). So clearly that's not true anymore. (Then again, Nissan makes very harebrained decisions, like removing one pedal driving from the Ariya and putting a software throttle on fast charging after so many uses)

It doesn't need it in most cases because it isn't meant to be a long range EV that is used for stop & go charging.

@@Jimster481 that doesn't make any sense

@@kevinbarry71 yes it does, the car is made for city driving / commuting / errands and not for long distance driving.

You mean Altima's? Because the older Altima's were cheap, lasted forever and had good performance. So lots of people still drive them and can't afford to take care of them.

Exactly

Seats are fine if you’re not a “plus” sized person. For normal and slim people the seats are comfortable.

I personally don't like the seats and I am definitely not a plus sized person.

What? I mean these are great as commuter / secondary / around town / errand vehicles. They are not to be the primary vehicle unless you live in a city and only expect to drive in the city. They are known to be extremely reliable and well built. I personally have one and can vouch for it. It is also extremely smooth to drive, smoother than my $90k luxury SUV.

$200 a month? Holy crap. That’s a lot.

LEAF's don't catch on fire like other EV's. The air cooled battery combined with a very safe (but not ultra high output) chemical compound makes them extremely reliable and safe. Other EV's like Tesla's go for high intput/output batteries with liquid cooling which opens the door for thermal runaway. In the LEAF this only happens if the car itself is in a fire. Not when it is charging or driving.

@@Jimster481 It is a fact that you rarely see a Nissan Leaf burning surrounded by fire fighters confused that it just won't extinguish. At least not as often as Teslas and anything contains the word "Rover" in the name. But the Leaf's design makes it disposable before most would like or expect it to be. It truly is a mobility appliance.

@@busboy262 yep their battery design and composition makes it very stable. What about the design makes it disposable? The original ones had a short range since they were designed for city driving especially for Japan. Lots of people depleted the battery and charged to 100% every day which led to high degredation.

It is discontinued.

You can't buy a Bolt in the UK.....

I would say no. Considering the Corolla is CVT these days. Unless you can find a deal on a manual one with some options; the Corolla is way less comfortable and rides way worse. However it does have unlimited range due to it being a gas car. The LEAF is good for a city car, commuter car or secondary/errand car. Don't buy it as your only car. Don't get any EV if you have only 1 car.

And burn up like hot cakes as well. Complete garbage.

Model 3 is a totally inferior car. Poor build quality, limited reparability, 24/7 tracking (which can be shared to the government), more difficult to insure (unless its Tesla insurance) and much more expensive. There is nothing great about road tripping any EV and anyone who tells you this or thinks so is not okay in the head and probably addicted to / high on drugs. The LEAF is great today as a secondary / commuter / around town vehicle.

Grow up.

@@Digikidthevoiceofreason done! Now what?

@@TristenHernandez Prove it by abandoning this stupid “hey look I’m first!” Nonsense.

aww silly goose chill out and take your frustrations out somewhere else.

@@Silverado_EV_ChEVy_Avalanche Stay out of this.

Much less reliable in general and nobody knows the longevity of the batteries. Meanwhile plenty of these 2018 LEAF's around in 2024 with 80-95% battery health after tons of miles and abuse.

Smart people want evs. You are not a smart person.

@@Digikidthevoiceofreason LMAO you sound vaxxed

@@raymond_sycamore Nope. However you are a millennial and therefore I don’t expect you to be smart enough to understand. Thank god I was born in the smart ages unlike you. You got the short end of the stick.

@@raymond_sycamore hey it’s not your fault that you are a millennial and were born in the stupid ages. If anything you have my pity. No, I am not Vaxxed. I am smarter than that and you.

@@raymond_sycamore You sound uneducated.