We've owned a Chevy Bolt EV since January 2017. We've got solar on our home shortly after, so mostly we drive on sunshine. Last Fall, at about 62,000 miles, GM replaced the battery at no charge to us. GM changed the battery due to a recall for potential fire risk. At that point we had not noticed any battery range degradation. The new battery is slightly larger so we have even greater range, ~260 miles EPA rated. We have over 71,000 miles now and we charge it almost exclusively at home using a level 2 charger (220 volt AC). We have driven our Bolt on several long road trips, the longest was 2,000 mile RT to Texas. Our only maintenance costs have been tires, windshield wipers and cabin air filter. We have reservations for a Rivian R1S and a Chevy Silverado EV, whichever we get first will replace our other vehicle, a Chevy Colorado. We love our EV.

I have a 2018 LEAF with 15,000 miles on it. It has been fast charged exactly once in its life (before I bought it) and I still get the rated 150 miles of range from it. It cannot be overstated how fast charging the LEAF shortens its battery life. Another worthy point is don't charge the battery when it's hot. I use the charge timer to have a full battery by morning when I need to leave for work and that gives the battery time to cool off when I get home. The timer also makes sure my battery is warm in the morning when I leave for work on cold NE Ohio days. I love my little LEAF. With solar on the house, it's as if gas became free. Oh, and I don't miss gas stations one little bit.

I like how Nathan strikes me as an off-road and bigger vehicle kind of guy, but he’s also out here advocating for the Leaf. I think the Leaf and others like it make a ton of sense for around-town. Great video!

I just hope folks watching this don't get the wrong ideas about all evs losing their range like this cause the Nissan lacked liquid cooling.

I really enjoy hearing about THIS car. More affordable EVs are far more interesting than the usual SUV EVs that have more infotainment than actual usefulness. Mahalo for this report!

We have a 2013 Leaf (exact same color as yours and also sans-hubcaps, which really upsets my wife) which we bought for $10k in 2015 and it had 19k miles at the time. It now has 66k miles and the range has decreased from 84 miles when new to us down to about 70 miles today in warm weather. Don't talk to me about the range when cold. It's terrible. But it's been absolutely wonderful to have as a daily runabout and we put an estimated 90% of our annual miles on it, keeping a Subaru Outback on standby for longer trips. It's been one of the best purchases we've ever made. Zero mechanical issues to date, and I've only replaced tires, windshield wipers, and 12v batteries. It seemed to eat those like candy there for a while until they did a software update a couple of years ago, and it's been much better since then.

The Leaf was the best run around town car that I bought. Saves so much money compared to driving a truck.

I'm about 3 minutes into your video which I'm enjoying and will continue watching but.. I feel like I wanna say "dude!, the very reason I was able to buy a 2013 Leaf SV for the insanely low price of $6,995 back in 2016 was because people didn't want them, now you're trying to help them understand why they should get one. Soon there won't be any good deals left." Although I know this to be true, I too have encouraged others to purchase one of these inexpensive, entry level EV's. I've had mine for six years now, the range is down to about 60 miles now (more than enough for my daily commute) and in those 6 years the only thing I've needed to purchase is tires (they where almost new when I bought it, I'm on my third set), and wipers (I'm on my 5th set). That's it! Heck even the brakes are still factory thanks to the regenerative braking. I don't know how much money this car has saved me over the years (no smog checks, no oil changes, no belts, no hoses, no radiator, no transmission, the list goes on) and more importantly.. NO GAS! ZERO emissions!! Heck, zero maintenance! Maybe you'll get into it later in the video but the one thing I tell people though you really have to experience it for yourself is just how much fun it is to drive this car! I'm in my 60's and I've owned a lot of cars but this is by far my favorite! It's also the ugliest car I've ever owned but once I'm in the driver seat I forget about that. All that torque can sure be a lot of fun, especially when the light turns green!

This example is exactly what I was thinking. Your daughter does not have to pay for gas or electricity (when charging at home). This gives her freedom or more money for other things. People in England have put 62KW batteries in their Leafs after 10 years and more than doubled range.

Great update! I'm happy to hear that the Leaf is working out well.

I appreciate how Nathan is an all around car guy, not someone stuck in a niche. It's a good video about the old Leaf model. It is limited, can be inconvenient, is not anywhere near the range and battery longevity of newer EVs...BUT...dang they're cheap right now. And when your car is getting 10-15mpg in stop and go traffic as you take an hour to move 10-20 miles, that Leaf is great! If you don't have that kind of commute, that's great, the fewer people who suffer through that the better.

Very good info Nathan. Thanks a lot for the update.

I just sold my 2013 leaf that I had for the past six years for $2k more than I paid for it. Car was flawless with zero issues or needs. Icing on the cake is I charged it for free for the last 4 years. Essentially a nearly free car.

The 2 Nissan Leafs I see in my area look exactly the same...grey with no hubcaps...glad you're enjoying it Nathan!! Save on gas!!😃

We bought a 2011 Leaf SL new...with CHaDeMo charging stock...by buying the floor model. In 135,000 km (85K miles,) we've put on two sets of tyres and wiper blades, an air filter, and a bottle of blue coolant. When petrol was $3.11/gal, it cost 86% less per mile than our PT Cruiser. Nissan put a new battery in seven years ago, and it's at 68% SOH. I still get 50+ miles out of an 80% charge, and 97% (200 GIDs) gets over 70 miles, and that's with a 40-mile freeway run. It also cost 60% less than the Tesla S (the only other production EV at the time.) I sure hope I can get another battery for it, now that Nissan cancelled my order $12K for a 40kWh replacement. (Stupid Ariya.)

Bought my 2012 Leaf in Jan 2017 for $8500. Made sure I found one that was originally late off the lot and still had battery warranty. Found one with 10k miles and 9 months remaining with 3 bars down in capacity. Lost the 4th bar 3 months and 4k miles layer so Nissan replacement was free. After that the next two years I put on 40k miles plugging in to a 110v outlet at home. I still have it, my wife drives it on her under 5 mile commute to work while I drive my longer range EV. I could turn around and sell that Leaf for more than I paid for it now, great little car.

Nate, glad to see the update. My wife and I own a 2016 SL, 30 kWh. We love the car. 54k miles on it, only purchased a set of tires, and wiper blades, we are down 3 bars, as soon as the 4th drops we will be going in for our warranty repair. They do not make the 30 kWh battery any longer, so they will update it with the 40 kWh unit. About 160 miles range when new. I will definitely let you know when and how that works out. We love our "nerdy' car as we have been told it looks odd. Only the headlights I would change!! 2 weeks ago when gas hit $5 a gallon did we start getting questions on the car. Twice in one day. Never happened in 3.5 years. When we first got it with15k miles, the battery was like new, it was rated for 107 miles per charge. Just driving around town without heat or AC, no highway driving, we would get 140 miles on a charge. Less then $3 for electricity plugged in at home. It's odd, just about every 10k miles a bar drops off, 1st time was at 30k EXACTLY. I was driving, I hit 30k, drove a few more miles, shut off the car, went into the store, came out, started it (turned on) and boom, a bar was gone. Nothing more of a gut punch when the first one drops.

I am in the same boat. Least expensive way to get around the county. Windshield wiper broke and tires wore out. Thats it!

This gives people an idea about alternative vehicle options. It’s not the family trip vehicle but it’ll work for most commutes. Also it beats an electric scooter on a hot summer day.

It is SO EASY to take care of the battery pack in a Nissan Leaf. With what we've learned over the last 12 years there's no reason to experience premature capacity loss. Nearly all of those owners experiencing issue with capacity loss have been their own worst enemy. There are well known scenarios that raise battery core temperatures into the red zone where damage occurs (core temperatures typically above 115F). Driving for extended periods above 80 mph can significantly raise core temperatures. DCFC (rapid chargers), will significantly raise core temperatures. Doing these two things combined with ambient temperatures above 95F (think Arizona daytime highs of over 110F), and you begin to significantly affect battery capacity. Indeed, many of the owners that experienced premature capacity loss where from Arizona and admitted to routinely driving over 80 mph and frequently using DCFC charging stations. Owners that live in more temperate climates and drive their Leafs at more normal speeds greatly reduce the incidence of premature capacity loss. Charging only at home using Level 1 (120V) or Level 2 (240V) chargers will also aid in greatly extending battery life. Keep in mind as well that the early Leaf batteries were very small at only 24kWh and 30kWh. Being so small meant they needed to be "fully" charged each time and charged far more often in order to get any usefulness out of the vehicle. Both of these actions increase the rate of capacity loss. Some owners were charging two or more times each day which quickly exhausted the number of charge cycles they were designed to endure. SIZE MATTERS when it comes to EV battery life. I have two Leafs, a 2015 SV and a 2019 SV Plus. My 2015 has 65k miles and the battery still has 84% of its original capacity (SOH). It never gets driven above 75 mph and is always charged at home. My 2019 has the much larger 62kWh battery and after 30k miles is still showing 95% SOH. The 2019 SV Plus only needs to be charged once a week which should help the battery last well beyond 200,000 miles. UPDATE, Spring 2024: It's also been shown that leaving the Leaf at 100% charge affects the aging rate of the battery. I used to put my 2016 on the charger as soon as I got home from work. This would replenish the 15kWh used during the day in about 3 hours then sit at 100% for about 10-12 hours every night. I would also put the Leaf on the charger when I got home on Friday evenings and leave it there until Monday morning. Overnight affects are tiny but cumulative. The effects from sitting at 100% over an entire weekend (every weekend) are a lot worse. I now charge to 100% only when I intend to use the vehicle immediately. I believe this has greatly slowed the rate of degradation.

I had a '15 Leaf SL. I loved it and never had to pay to charge it. I was a tech at a Nissan dealer and charged it at work. Had it for 2 years and my range was about 110 miles.

Thanks for telling people about the Leaf. I have a similar experience. I’m thankful as I approach retirement to have inexpensive and paid off car. I also remember the video you made when you first got this car. Thanks!

Great video! It is always nice to see real life experience on EVs, especially after two years of use! Thank you for sharing! 🔌⚡🚘

All this battery degradation is actually really a problem of the Nissan Leaf. And perhaps the earliest Mitsubishis. All the other EVs don't have this problem, or at least not that sever. For example, a 2017 Ioniq or Bolt will have near 100% battery capacity.

I was wondering about this car. Thx for updating

This is really good insight. Thanks

I also drive a used 2015 Nissan Leaf. It gets me to and from work plus some. The heated seats and heated steering wheel really help with range during the cold winter months here in Southern Oregon.

I have a 2011 Japanese-made Leaf since August 2010. Since then, we proudly owned and driven it. Last 14 years, it had ZERO problems. 6 months ago, when it was around 260,000 km, the battery was very degraded, and we wanted to see the options to buy a new leaf or a newer year model leaf or just replace the battery. All new leaf and newer model leaves are made in the US, and workmanship and craftmanship quality are not even near to Japanese made. We have to admit that. Japanese-made is very well made. Anyway, we ended up getting a new battery. We found a 62 KW battery with some additional modifications, like shocks and spring replacement since e62 Kw is much heavier; now our leaf has a second life with a 450 km single charge. If you can find a Leaf 2011-2012, Japanese made with NBOT beat up so much, buy it and replace the battery; you won't regret it. I don't understand people spending 80K-90K on new EV cars and making car payments every month. Thats crazy. Do you wanna save money or waste money? Ask yourself that question.

Nice update!

Excellent commentary 👌

got mine in 2011 an still loving it. everyone in the family always drove off with it, very popular with us

Great update thank you

I owned a 2013 S and a 2015 SV (wife totaled both). I loved them. Hyper miling was actually fun. They were our only cars for a period of time so anything 60 miles round trip (at 45 mph) was just doable. But I'm not going anywhere else. I test drove a Bolt when they first came out and it felt like I was stuffing myself into a model airplane. Very tight quarters and overwhelming dash (compared to the LEAFs). I want to go back to an electric but my current physical body requires a little more room than most offer. As well as pricing for longer ranged vehicles. I would go with a 2018 or newer LEAF since my driving requirements are much less than the 150-200+ mile range. I have a level 2 charging station (free) just 2 miles from my house. I get it to 80% bring her home and level 1 till full. Enjoy yours.

I have a 2014 Nissan Leaf that I brought it in 2016 for NZ$18k it had 26,000km, 6 years later it has done 117,000km and with today's fuel price in my country our old ICE vehicle would cost me around $150 per week as our fuel price is $3 per lt or $11.40 per US gallon vs just $15 with 14 cents per kwh. The only service it has had is the gear reduction fluid changed when I got the EV and again at 100,000km, as well as the cabin filters which I did myself. So in my country and at $135 per week cost savings over 6 years is an eye watering saving of $42k in fuel savings alone! Yes it's battery health is down to 74% battery health or around 15kwh from the original net capacity of 21 kwh true capacity (24kwh gross) but wow $40k saved which is not bad for an 8 year old EV. I also abuse the battery always charge to 100% and charge every single day.

Great review! Thanks for mentioning maintenance. I think it’s the most important feature for a daily driver or commuter car but so many people ignore maintenance when considering the benefits.

Not a full EV, but even at 10 years old I can regularly get over the EPA rated range for my 2012 Chevy Volt. Spent $75 (Canadian $) on gas since March because I drive further occasionally, but even when I do use gas I am able to get 42-43mpg.

Thanks for the review. Have you considered doing a video on what your options are on in replacing your battery? An example cost from Nissan, compared with a 3rd party option (New) compared to a used pack cost. I know Dorman products makes Hybrid batteries but do they make full size batteries too? How about cost of labor on battery change outs, is your general garage able to replace a battery or is that dealer only? Oh one more thing those early Leafs do have a oil in their 1speed trans that should be changed just a fyi. Thanks again on the video.

I bought a used Kia Soul ev and have had similar experience (other than the drop in range) it’s been great!

Love it! thanks for sharing your experience. My 18 year old would be over the moon for her first car to be an EV. We live in a rural area and are able to charge at home, but need something with about 80-100 miles range in the winter (central Oregon).

Great video

we love our Leafs. Our 3 year old Leaf Pluses still show well over 200 miles of range.

Bravo, Nate! Your daughter has a great pops btw. 🤙🏼 In BC, Canada our residential rate for electrons is CAD9.5cents / kWh, rising to 14cents if you exceed a certain amount within your 60day billing cycle (Step rate they call it). What’s the rate in Boulder? Gasoline? Chevron regular today: $CAD 2.33/litre = $US 6.89/USGal Diesel $CAD 2.46/litre = $US 7.28/USGal

Tried to buy a Nissan Leaf last year before gas prices went nuts. Someone swiped it from us 20 minutes before we got to the dealer. It was only 8k. I lost big time. Still driving an Expedition Max as my daily at $5 a gallon.

Bro what you uploaded this the day I started looking at Leafs!!

This is the way to do it to save on gas. Not buying a new $60k car to "save" on gas.

that is exactly why i bought a used Chevy Bolt one year ago and not the Nissan leaf.. the battery is thermally controlled in the bolt. A bolt battery with 100,000 miles on it will have at MOST 8-10% loss of range.

I had a 2012 Leaf and a 2012 Focus Electric (both had pretty bad degradation). The leaf had no liquid cooling system for the battery but the Focus did. I currently have a 2012 Rav4 EV which is liquid cooled. I am still able to get 120 miles at 80% capacity which is more than it claimed new (best not to charge over 80%). This depends on the driver and conditions of course. I always slow charge with the cars stock charger. Although this was considered a compliance car, Toyota and Tesla (battery and motor) did a great job. The "guess o meter" in the Leaf and Focus Electric were not very accurate; whereas, the Rav4 seems to be right on most of the time. Thanks TFLEV for the great content!

I would like to pick up both the new Hummer EV and the Tesla Model S Plaid. However, My budget calls for me to drive my old Suzuki 200 back and forth to work...

Cool! I just bought a 2019 LEAF SL Plus with only 7K on it. It is my first EV. Loving it!

Very valuable information. I watched at 1.5 speed & Jason Alexander's Captain Kirk imitation comes to mind listening to you..:) Enjoyed your frankness and nuts & bolts approach. How about upgrading the battery which I have heard is often times done to increase range? Any thoughts on that?

I wake up everyday and jam metallica battery with lyrics, i can't help it. Upvoted!!!!

We just picked up an old Leaf and use it to just run errands within 5 miles of the house or so. Saves us a ton on gas and we don't care if it gets door dinged in parking lots.

Outstanding video, not sexy but very useful information.

fair review nathan, i was trying to find a chevy volt for cheap but no luck. i think 40 miles on electricity and the ability to road trip would be great.

Another thing that helps prevent battery degradation in first-gen Leafs is to NOT plug in immediately after arriving home, but let the battery cool down for at least 30 minutes before plugging in.

I drive the heck out of our 2012 LEAF around town. Great car even with degradation. Although I did have to spend a ton of money on windshield wiper blades. And a tire started leaking so I spent almost $10 on a can of fix a flat. Other than that cost me about 4 cents per mile in electricity to drive around town. We put 8000 miles on it last year.

Thanks for the video. I wanted that car for a while. I live in Florida and I worried about battery life. I bought a Prius

i have 2015 leaf that i got super cheap a few years ago to save up for an electric truck after my old commuter died... ive put a new 12v battery in my car so far, it is so amazingly cheap to drive, if it wasn't for the range id drive it longer than another few years. i guess one of the advantages of living in the pnw is that ive had zero battery degradation. i wish they would have had active battery managment versus the passive system

I have 2 Leafs we drive daily. One a 2014 and another 2020 long range.I love them much more than any of our past gas vehicles. We have taken our leaf on longer trips but its a pain and takes a lot more planning. Not because its electric, but strictly do to the phasing out of the Chadmo chargers. CCS and tesla are all over the place and charge faster. I would have prefered to have a bolt for longer range trips but when we bought it they were nowhere to be found near us.

I have my Nissan Leaf 2013 that I bought in 2014. Saved hundreds of thousands of dollars.

We’re looking forward to more f150 lightning videos! 🙂

It might make a good series of shows to get a replacement battery with the newer 62 kWh battery from a crashed Leaf. Probably after the warranty is over.

Dude! You might consider, since your car is set up for it, doing a lot of DC or 'fast' charging before the warranty expires.

Thank you for this honest update/review. This is why I like you Nathan. Straight up, down to earth, no BS/exaggeration/coddling a vehicle. It is what it is. And this is 1 reason I have not run out to buy an EV for my garage.(amongst many other reasons) I am not in the flip it stage of life. It is more economical in the long run to NOT have disposable vehicles. I flipped a fair share of vehicles in my life that were supposed to be get me by's but, in the short term(and long)they cost me more money than just buying 1 good reliable vehicle.

I'll second what you're getting at in this. Our Leaf is a bit older than this one, bought used several years ago for ~8k. It basically paid for itself inside of a year with mileage reimbursement. Now we drive a lot less, and we charge at home on a L2. I can see that over the last year we only charge about 30 Kwh/month. If we were paying for the electricity (we have solar/batteries), it would cost $2 a month. We're also in NoCo. The next level to this kind of efficiency and savings... electric bikes and scooters. Our scooters are many many times cheaper to run when weather permits haha.

Nice I see a lot of Nissan use real cheap just worry about the battery if it’s a good deal do use around town.

Nissan will replace the battery if you lose 5 bars out of 12 during the warranty period. We bought a 2017 Leaf in April of 2020 with 38K miles that had only 7 bars of battery capacity. That car came with a 30KW battery new. I'm guessing it must have been fast charged frequently. Nissan replaced the battery with a 40KW battery at no charge and we've put almost 30K miles on the car in just less than 4 years. We still have 12 bars of battery capacity, but the range has dropped to about 145 miles on a full charge where it was about 170 when the battery was new. Of course, it depends on whether you stay on surface streets or use it on the highway, and the outside temperature plays a big part in the usable range. Fortunately, here in the Phoenix area it never gets as cold as it does in Boulder, CO. By charging during super off-peak hours (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="660">11:00</a> pm to <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="300">5:00</a> AM) my cost for fuel averages about 1.5 cents per mile, about 1/8th what I paid for fuel on my Mazda 3 which is a very similar sized car. The car has needed one rather expensive repair, we had to replace the Power Distribution Module at 52K miles and that was a bit over $4000. For some reason, this car seems to be hard on rear tires, we've bought two sets in 30K miles. Other than that it has been inexpensive to operate. It's been a good car for the purpose, which is a city car, with limited highway use. We've never fast charged it, and probably never will. If you have to pay 35 cents per Kw Hr. at a commercial charging station it's as expensive as buying gas at today's prices where regular gas is around $3.00.

I have a 2017 Leaf S, and my experience mirrors everyone else's. No trouble with it, some battery degradation, and just love not going to a gas station. How long does it take to charge? About 10 seconds, plug it in before bed. My only advice, don't get the base S. It doesn't allow you to easily charge to a set %, so I end up charging to 100% often. And while it has heated seats, no heated steering wheel. Considering the range hit it has in the cold, and the heater doesn't get real hot, a heated steering wheel with seats would be fine in 40-50⁰ weather without running the main heater much, preserving range. And hopefully the SV and SL have a better radio, the radio in the S is hot garbage. For spoken word only.

Great advice to have an EV as a primary car for most daily drives, even if that is short with an old one. Trying to drive these big SUVs/4x4s in an economical way is useless. You are driving a very capable 2 ton vehicle, with the aerodynamics of a building, just to get yourself to some place that you could have probably used a bicycle for if roads were a little safer :D EVs are so much cheaper to drive, and they are nice and relaxing to drive as well. I would buy a Bolt or an Ioniq (2017) so you can do pretty much all daily drives or even longer distances. Then you only need the big car if you actually need to haul stuff or go offroading or something. The amount of money saved is staggering.

We got a used Leaf Plus, and taking all costs into account (including parking meters), after work mileage reimbursements, it turned into a net positive after 2 1/2 years. Of course, that was high-mileage of ~2000 miles a month, till we got an IONIQ 6 and the Leaf became our 2nd car.

I bought a 10 year old leaf for my daughter it has 9 bars and a real road range of about 80km/50miles which is way more than her daily commute.. The car just gets plugged in at the end of the day and charges to 80%(an option on the older models), and it's good for the next day. The car pays for itself out of the money that would have been spent on fuel. After 3 years it is a free car and saves us money. As long as the range is much more than the commute then there is no problem. I must add that where we live we don't get extremely cold or hot weather, which can cause a lot of battery problems for the old leaf.

Actually, the Leaf battery is not air-cooled. It is in a sealed case, with a small fan that recirculates the air inside to keep all of the cells at a consistent temperature. Air cooled batteries will use air outside the battery to cool it, typically using air from inside the passenger compartment. Most Toyota hybrid batteries are cooled this way.

I have a 2015 Mercedes Benz B250E electric, it has an EPA rated 87 miles of range. Drove it in 100 degree temp the other day and got 90+ miles. I average around 94 miles a charge. Some EV's have better battery conditioning than the Leaf. One reason the Used Leaf's price is so low and makes economical sense if it handles your milage needs.

2013 volt, 130k miles, zero degredation. getting 50 miles per charge now lol... use it every day all the time. put 30k miles on it in the last year and saved 2.5k in gas. paid 7k for it, now its apparently worth 8.5k. will pay for itself in about 18-24 months lol. getting over 1500 miles per 10 gal tank. zero range loss... i repeat, brand new my car gets like 32-38 miles of range lol. i expanded the 12v system with 4kwh of lifepo4 and added 200w of solar to the roof. solar paid for itself in a few months, battery will pay itself off by the end of the year.

I’ve been thinking about buying an older Nissan leaf to replace my broken Toyota Prius I thought the older Nissan waves only the 50 miles on one charge but I think 80 Miles would be good for what I do

Where i live in Canada avg price of electricity is 0.10kwh and gas after conversion and exchange is $6.30 gallon. So its a no brainer. I save a lot of money with my 17’ Ioniq EV which still does its original range of 124 miles.

Thank you

Better update. I paid X for it and could expect to get Y for it now. thats part of true cost my friend.

Thank You

I'm planning on purchasing a used leaf very soon due to gas costs.. I would love any tips and tricks you could give me for charging and maintaining battery life as I will be using this as my daily driver. How often I should charge for how long? Do I drain the battery before charging? Optimal charging and operating speeds and temps, etc... etc..

Well, I hope you are able to sell you LEAF with a battery in need of replacement. Batteries ran anywhere from $6K to $15K, so if you cannot sell it then you must also figure out the overall cost of the LEAF itself plus sending it to the dump.

Great review i think i will try to get me one of those, based in your comments.

I have a 2012 leaf and I only get about 60 miles to a charge now. I will however keep this car because other than the battery there is nothing wrong with this car and I am hoping that one day soon newer and cheaper batteries will be available to replace mine.

The VW eGolf, like the Leaf, lacks active battery cooling/heating. But the eGolfs haven't had much battery degradation due to a better BMS and cell chemistry.

Flywheel power generator work great .

People need to understand, these EV's are great for what they are intended for.. COMMUTING. They are not for everyone, you'll need a place (a house) to do overnight, 110v charging. This would be a problem for someone who lives in an apartment or something like that.

Have you thought about replacing the battery with a salvage second generation Leaf battery. I've heard some people get 250-275 mile range with the newer battery.

In your comparison the other Nissan needed 4 refuels, your car would need about 16, to go the same distance maybe, if you got the 80 mile range, depending on weather could be more. That would take a long time to do, unless you are over night at home charging. A used hybrid is way better, unlimited range and most getting better than 50mpg, so the cost would come way closer, except for oil changes etc and way more reliable

Nathan. Studies have shown that cold weather does not degrade the battery long term. It simply reduces range. Hot weather is a different story if your battery is air cooled. Modern electric cars do not have these issues, which is why you are now getting long warranties on the battery. The 2016 Leaf is an extreme scenario.

I love my 2013 smart electric.

We call our '16 Leaf, The Grocery Getter. We plug it in at night and the next day we can drive around 100 miles. If we get low during the day we have a 220 volt charger that fills it up in about 1 1/2 hours. Bought it 2 years ago with 20,000 miles on it for 1/3 the price of new. Our other car is a Honda Clarity Plug-In-Hybrid. It goes about 40 miles on all electric before the gas motor kicks in.Thats the long distance car that will get around 50 MPG on the highway. All in all we spend about 40 bucks per month to charge our cars and travel between 1,000 and 1,200 miles. So when people ask us what the best gas station in town is we say, "Our garage!"

Bought a used Honda clarity PHEV a year ago. 47 miles electric range. I’ve used 8.00 in gas last 120 days. Boy did I luck out with this purchase.

I bought a 2013 Leaf SV in 2017 for $9k with 30k miles on. At 90k miles in December 2021 I finally had to get a battery upgrade. I spent just $4.5k and had an 80% SOH 30 KWh battery pack installed. Now my 2013 Leaf, that only had 75 miles when new, consistently goes 85-90 miles per charge!! Even with the battery upgrade my Leaf has more than paid for itself just in "fuel" savings! There are definitely FAR superior EVs out on the market now, but for the money a used Leaf is an excellent choice for anyone with a 15-20 mile commute, and unbeatable if you can afford to keep an ICE vehicle around for the road trips.

What is your Leaf’s range on the coldest Boulder day? I live in Boulder. Thanks.

Not sure about the Leaf.. buy the Prius I owned cooled/heated the battery from a Vent in back seat near the door.. SO if you don't use your AC (not working or trying to get better mileage) you will not be cooling your battery.. also the location on the Prius was easily covered by stuff in back seat or your dog laying over the vent.. again no cooling. Rule of thumb is that gas car at 35 mpg will cost .14cents/mile and EV about .04cents/per mile (charging from home).. saving about $1200 a year (12,000 miles yr). Of course if you have to replace the battery after warranty (8yrs) that will be 6-9000 dollars.. Good for you that your car is worth more than you paid for it..

Quick charging doesnt hurt the battery. Quick charging when battery temp is above 110F is what hurts it. Case and point besides thats simply a fact: My 2017 has been quick charged to death and its holding up as well as some of the best 24kWh packs.

Yeah I wouldn’t count on that battery warranty and I wouldn’t recommend anyone buy an older leaf over a Prius. I bought my Mom a ‘13 leaf a few years ago from a Nissan dealership. I swear they did something shady to reset the battery calibration because it showed 10 bars on day 1 and quickly dropped to 5 bars over the next 6 months of warm weather, low mileage driving (my mom’s retired and only used the car for the grocery store and doctor’s appointments). So, we go to get the battery replaced and they say the battery has to show 1-4 bars for warranty coverage, and then they started talking about how it might be prorated and corporate might only cover a couple thousand of the $8500 (!!!) battery replacement since we were about to hit the last year of the 8 year warranty. We sold that car for $1k less than we initially paid and then bought her a 2014 Prius Plug-in with mediocre battery health for a steal. Then we took it straight to Toyota and they replaced the battery under warranty no questions asked. They even gave her a ‘21 Avalon as a loaner. That wonderful Prius PHEV is still getting 10 miles of all electric range (up to 60mph) and 60+mpg in hybrid mode to this day. My Mom always brags that she only fills up her gas tank once per season (90% of her trips are under 10 miles). Plus, it’s super versatile. My Mom is always antiquing and bringing home furniture in the Prius, and I borrow it for camping trips and my girlfriend and I can comfortably sleep on an air mattress in the back. So yeah, definitely check out a Prius or Prius Plug-in before falling for the Leaf’s cheap EV fallacy. $8500 battery replacement cost is more than the whole car is worth!

Exactly how it is. Thank you for your experiences.

I just saw one in canada 2011 model for $5500.00 thanks for the heads up.

Do another video and plug in an OBDII and check the information of the car/battery with the LeafSpy. My 30kWh Leaf has served me perfectly for the past year, also done about 20k miles and at 50k has a SOH at 82%... And please, talking about range is giving every EV owner Goosebumps. With every ICE car, specially truck, you inform us of the tank size and the MPG. Do the same with the EVs, battery size (capacity or size x degradation) is the important information together with the consumption. Same as for the ICE car! Please RANGE is a VERY RELATIVE term at an EV! We all know you can do either 40 miles at full speed or 140 at 20mph.