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Catholics Claim That New Testament ls Uninspired Not only does the Catholic church contend that the Bible is a “dead letter” and the New Testament is uninspired, but it maintains that the apostles appointed a “divine infallible apostolate” to direct us. That is essentially the way the Catholic church endeavors to make room in the realm of religion for papal edicts and the decrees of the Romanist councils. But concider this: “For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward, how shall we escape, if we neglect so great a salvation, which at first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him.” (HEBREWS 2:2-3) Those who heard the word were the ones to confirm it, and that is in keeping with the following statement of Peter. “Therefore, of these men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John, to the day when he was taken up from us. One of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.” (ACTS 1:21-22). This was said in regard of one whom “ . . . You have chosen to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell” (ACTS 1:24-25). Can this so-called “divine, infallible apostolate” qualify? And after the word has been spoken and confirmed, what purpose could such an office serve?

The church of Christ is the church of the apostles in Antioch, “where they were first called Christian.” YOU CAN’T BE SAVED ANY OTHER WAY

So why people are staying away from the church if the bishops are doing such a great job as leaders!

@@walterlahaye2128 where does one begin to even try and answer such a nonsensical comment

EVIDENCE, that's what the world is asking for, not bloviated sophistry. Evidence that what theists are trying to peddle is true. BB as per usual offers absolutely nothing.

@@downenout8705 Not true BB offers absolutely nothing. What would you expect a sermon?

@@therealong For goodness sake, it's obvious that I am referring to "evidence" when I say "absolutely nothing". He only talks about spreading the "message". Very few people today are interested in a "message" unless it is supported by sufficient and compelling evidence. So if I am lying, instead of a vacuous assertion, try providing a single sentence containing just a mustard seed's worth of empirical evidence to support the truth of 1 Corinthians 15: 14. In a direct conversation with BB I issued him with this challenge and his silence has been deafening.

@@downenout8705 I'm trying to understand your point of view, but neither who read your comments have EVIDENCE that you have had a direct conversation with BB and he didn't willingly answer. At the contrary, I would think he might have a lot to talk about your proposed verse.

@@therealong Believe me or not I don't care, it does nothing to alter the fact that you failed to provide the single sentence that I asked for. Argumentation and bloviated sophistry is no substitute for empirical evidence. It never ceases to amaze me how few Christians have sufficient intellectual integrity to reply "I accept that there is no empirical evidence to support the biblical resurrection claim, but the evidence that I do have, combined with my personal experience and faith is sufficient for me to believe in the truth of 1 Corinthians 15: 14". Now I would almost certainly disagree that your reasons are sufficient, but at least the conversation can be an intellectually honest one.

I'm one of them. And I live in the Middle East.

@@Lerian_V Good!

Christ has saved them with Barron as His instrument.

Indeed they can exist side by side as they have for decades. The problem is they are growing everywhere but in some places we are declining.

My experience at an FSSP was less than desirable. Maybe it's because I'm currently living in the south, but there was lots of antisemitism, racism, sexism, corporal punishment, a mistreatment of children that "bordered" on abuse (speaking charitably), and a general bigotry towards anyone who wasn't hardcore TLM, including a strong distaste even of faithful Novus Ordo Catholics. I heard TLM attendees talk about Novus Ordo Catholics as if they were subhuman on more than one occasion, and when I would confront people, they would justify their actions with prideful admonishments of "the other", whether it was against Jewish people, or outcrying the evils of interracial marriage, or how the submission (to a degrading degree) of women was necessary, absolute, and virtuous in the eyes of God. When I spoke with the clergy, they acted as if most of it was a nonissue. I actually first went to a TLM because of Bishop Robert Barrons interview with Shia Labeouf. It saddens me beyond description to know that there are Catholics with such venom in their hearts. I hate to speak on this in a public forum, but I wish people to be wary about the TLM before they get hurt spiritually. Antisemitism is heretical since Vatican II, and there are other instances of preaching false doctrine that I care not to discuss in this public of a format. The TLM is wonderful if it is properly ordered and understood as a relic of tradition, but the beauty of Novus Ordo is just beginning to show its fruits. I think people cling to traditionalism (which is a formal logical fallacy by the way) because of the uncertainty of our culture, but it is a facade that I pray people don't cling to. Also, all of this is coming from someone who was sheltered in California, and assumed all the 2016 talk about racism, sexism, and bigotry was fake news. Sadly, it isn't, and it's not just fundamental christians succumbing to this hatred, it is even affecting our Church. I think Traditionis Custodes was an important step, and I pray that it is enough.

not my experience at all. i go to the TLM because of its beauty and reverence nothing to do with the ills of current society. you are making judgments just as you are accusing people at the parish you went to making judgments. sorry for your bad experience. may our good God lead you to a good parish and give you peace.@@danielsullivan7541

​@@danielsullivan7541im afraid that you are a bit of an exagerator and a sensationalist.

@@patrickdillon9188 Seeing as one of my friends literally said he would hide his skin color if he could, I don't think I'm exaggerating at all, nor sensationalizing the issue.

Do you believe Bishop Barron is watering down the Gospel?

@@ululate6008 keep in mind there are extreme groups of traditionalists that have separated themselves off from Rome, calling themselves the real Catholics, and I was raised in one of them. When you trust the adults in your life and they twist things the bishop has said and teach you how he is numbered among the bad bishops, you accept it. Once I started doing my own research into everything I realized that position was not ok. But I can most definitely blame my disdain, and my ignorance therefore, on the adults who trained me to think in such a way not just towards bishop Barron, but also other bishops and the popes. I think you would be very shocked to know some of the things that happen in TLM only communities. I know exactly what rad trad means because I know many many people who are, and it’s not a good position to hold. You can be simply Catholic and love beautiful liturgies and be on fire for the Lord and know your scripture and have a wonderful Catholic life without accepting the ideologies of rad tradism.

Materialist based philosophies dominate the west, especially Europe. A good indicator is to look at the fanatics on the political spectrum. For example: did you notice that there have been several religious extremist groups in the Middle East, but not in Europe? There are no Crusader terrorist groups. Extremists are always some sort of communist or fascist - which reveals what that society values the most.

I murmured the same thing. I wish the interviewer asked him if he thought he's starting a parallel order.

They way to do this is for them to be ultra-traditionalists. After all, they are the only growing element of the Roman Catholic Church, and the majority of those calling for the end of materialism. We cannot evangelise the culture if we copy the culture, or are even remotely influenced by the culture.

For the record- ( opinion) : fwiw- before ‘ writing off ‘ the religious order of the Society of Jesus ( S.J.) please consider a) our Pope from Rome who leads us is a Jesuit; b) Priests like Father Wade and Father Mitch who are outstanding May and or Will be Jesuits and c) the seat of the Jesuit Community in North America ( Rose 🌹 Hill in the Bronx) may be and/or appears to be absolutely thriving: never generalize on this issue

⁠@@jacklaurentius6130If materialist philosophy dominates in the West, then orders that follow a stricter type of evangelical poverty might be an antidote? One of course with rigorous intellectual formation also.

I keep or allow God's been in me in uncertainty of my belief since God as I AM does not "work".

Yo también!

Yo también @@mariab.774

From Spain a greeting - a great man of faith an exemplary Pastor of the church !

It's a beautiful, soulful book.

Santa Paula? We’re you at Thomas Aquinas College ?

My friend and I started a bike trip from Thomas Aquinas College. I had a sister attending and Mother Theresa was giving the graduation address.

I'm glad you do. We need people that transcend their faith, in the past we had Norman v Peale, Robert Schuller even the late rabbi Harold Kushner and rabbi Abraham Twerski did the same thing even though they believed in Judaism, better than atheism. Bishop barron transcends also.

Bishop Barron waters down our Faith

Please read the CCC 83 about distinguishing between Apostolic Tradition and ecclesial traditions.

@@therealong I read the paragraph a couple of times makes a good point but I was speaking particularly Church Doctrine and Dogmas which he skirts frequently.

They were packed with false Catholics going through the motions and we all know it. Our current situation is an opportunity to make true disciples. That’s good. True disciples can come from TLM, Charismatic, and “regular old” parishes.

The "traditional catholic mass" was characterized by 3 priests mumbling to themselves and gesticulating like a bunch of broken clock springs. Meanwhile the "faithful " sat in the pews , not understanding, fingerings beads, daydreaming, dozing off , or going out for a smoke. Music was either very trashy water down sappy ditties Or most of the time No Music at all. The "traditional Latin mass" conveyed a very message that it was meaningless to our lives. Then, thankfully along came Vatican 2 to restore what early church always had namely use of the vernacular and the clergy and people actually participating. The only problem was the horrific implementation that took place in too many places with perfunctory actions and more trashy Music especially the god awful folk and showtime genre.Novus ordo done correctly is the most profoundly spiritual experience and an experience of God. To hear Novus ordo done right, listen to the livestream of 12 noon mass from Basilica of National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, Washington DC. This mass has it all: Real PIPE ORGAN, real hymns-the good stuff, excellent choir, hymns, intelligent sermon, incense, beautiful architecture, reverence and awe. Also the only meaningful Latin is for the Gloria, agnus dei and Greek Kylie. This liturgy is a model for the rest of the country and cannot come soon enough.

Listen to his sermons there he does not fall into the Protestant trap of misquoting Scripture

"Mrs" tells me you're not American 😃

@@Lerian_V Does one have to be American to listen to Bishop Barron especially being in Rome? 🙃

@@Lerian_V I am American and Mrs. Harrington. Why do you make that assumption?

@@maryharrington8983 Americans hardly sign their names with "Mrs" and then first name and husband's last name.

@@therealong No, I live in the Middle East myself.

Said Karl Marx who couldn’t hold a job and had to leech from others to survive. Yeah, a real self actualized man 😮

I've heard him quote a 20th century Anglican bishop who once said, "When Paul preached, there were riots, when I preach they serve me tea."

@@Lerian_V Obviously the cultural roots of each nation and of each period of time were different. And now we have the social media-

THIS WAS MY FAVORITE PART TOO!! 🤩😍😝🤑😬🤣😇

@@Lerian_Vthe sermon in the church here often lasts as much as five minutes, spoken through microphones so loud that it hurts the ears..

@@finnbarrryan8180 Yours is too loud, ours is the echo. So frustrating.