Ex-Lehman Brothers Employee Showcases Remarkable Level Of Aptitude

Ex-Lehman Brothers Employee Showcases Remarkable Level Of Aptitude | Dragons’ Den

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Husband and wife duo, Karen Ho and To Chan enters the den seeking a £150,000 investment and in return offers 30% of Aqua Sheko Fish Spa. As one of the first fish spas to open in London, the duo has a very clear business strategy in mind, but that doesn't sit well with some of our Dragons.
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@DragonsDenGlobal 3 жыл бұрын

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@TrendingReviews 3 жыл бұрын

I worked with To from 2018-2020 - He's a very intelligent guy! Shame he didn't get this investment, and I had no idea he was on Dragons Den either!!

@user-yr7nw8iw3t 3 жыл бұрын

Is his business successful?

@alexcam6805 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-yr7nw8iw3t i'd like to know that too 👍

@aartadventure 3 жыл бұрын

Since this season was well before 2018, I must sadly assume their foot spa business failed :(

@user-yr7nw8iw3t 3 жыл бұрын

@@aartadventure - their company, *Aqua Sheko*, is no longer trading…

@TheBrass18 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-yr7nw8iw3t that’s a shame, but I hope the couple are doing well. Am sure with their highly qualified degrees, they can get another job or start another business.

@mohammedibrahem2233 2 жыл бұрын

What Theo said back at the time , proved right , the market suddenly got congested with those hungry fish tanks and eventually there were lots of concerns about hygiene and the risk of transmitting diseases among people. Just imagine the same fish sucking the dead skin of ill person and then carry this bacteria out to someone healthy . Then the business disappeared.

@aljabirxiju9475 Жыл бұрын

theo said nothing about health concerns.

@andrewjones-productions Жыл бұрын

@@aljabirxiju9475 Mohammed didn't suggest that Theo did. Only that Theo was right in predicting the marketplace would become congested. Mohammed then went on to explain that because of the congested marketplace, concerns about hygiene were raised and that essentially put an end to this trend.

@dragonimoutjenny4359 3 жыл бұрын

There's something fishy about this one, but I would have invested.

@JeremiahEcks777 3 жыл бұрын

You're from Yorkshire love, so you don't invest in 'owt'. Get it? Jenny is out.

@LordSolidusI 3 жыл бұрын

@@JeremiahEcks777 nout*

@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock 3 жыл бұрын

I love a good troll account, but you shouldnt really go around pretending to be someone you ain't

@sortuorpaul3211 3 жыл бұрын

Have you invested before in any of the pitches that have ever come to the Den? You will continue to see fishy things until you realise these same rejected entrepreneurs have made it big times without you.

@farhvnkhan 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock Absolutely agreed Prime minister

@sinsin3123 2 жыл бұрын

I can feel sympathy and genuine sorry from the tone of Peter's rejection.

@BallyBoy95 2 жыл бұрын

I know right? Peter Jones could see these guys were the real deal, but in a soon-to-be overcrowded market, which proved prophetic. This market is saturated from everything I hear online.

@oxymoron02 2 жыл бұрын

Really? Because what I saw was him pull out a reserve question which very infrequently gets asked, and then use their answer to declare himself out.

@Dragon-Slay3r 11 ай бұрын

😡😂

@roni2977 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like the dragons got intimidated by their degrees 🤣🤣🤣

@papapalpatine1563 3 жыл бұрын

I dont know why but i couldnt stop laughing when she said "your skin is protein to them." Out of context, that is something straight out of a horror movie.

@samoak123 2 жыл бұрын

would have been an even better business if you were served your fish as sushi after your pedicure session to get your "protein" back.

@jordanMH23 3 ай бұрын

2:20

@appearce55 3 жыл бұрын

And for that reason.....I'm trout.

@fengaming6749 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant..

@wasilaify Жыл бұрын

Cruelty to the fish is the first thing that comes to mind. You want these fish to eat off your dirty feet?! Such a soulless business.

@harrybanda 3 жыл бұрын

Peter looks gigantic next to them

@fvrs3411 3 жыл бұрын

He’s 6ft7

@SiriusMined 3 жыл бұрын

He is

@inkgun3993 3 жыл бұрын

He is a giant

@MetalizedButt 2 жыл бұрын

He’s gigantic next to most people brah

@Scottsdaleofficesteve 3 жыл бұрын

Its a small business with limited scaleability. Im sure they'll live a successful life owning a couple of spas but its not really an investable venture for the dragons

@kingk2405 2 жыл бұрын

Well I remember a successful hedge fund manager who was saying that he always look for investment with a return of 30% (under 30 the money is better staying in the bank ) and I think it is easily reachable. A dozen of well situated spas can make 1 million a year net and 30% is 300000 a year for an initial investment of 150000 it is a 200% benefit each year .

@team3383 2 жыл бұрын

just goes to show. You make more money if you move to the other side of the world and belong to a different culture ... that woman knows the figures like she knows the back of her hand and yet she fakes having to bring them up ! You're talking to a culture who would raise the dead if they could smell and extra dollar across the street. They even went as far as to wear dirty clothes. Not good enough actors though. It didn't cut the mustard with the Dragons who saw through it - No investment.

@lucasc5622 2 жыл бұрын

@@team3383 who hurt you

@team3383 2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasc5622 Luckily nobody bro. 'Coz I can smell a rat when I see one. Just like the Dragon's did.

@lucasc5622 2 жыл бұрын

@@team3383 you talk like a tinfoil hat Facebook user

@Dieterbe 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone else think at first that "fish spa" is a place where rich people can bring their fish to relax ? Or just me ?

@rumblejungle5590 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@eferemochristopherkubunava1143 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same 🤣🤣

@jimmyneutron129 2 жыл бұрын

It would be cool to be honest

@vintagerealityvr 3 жыл бұрын

Theo FishFeetus

@dreperez8403 3 жыл бұрын

That’s GOLD mate!👍 hahahaha

@qataribananahamock1495 3 жыл бұрын

At least Jenny is to the point ‘I’m out’, this guy keeps bringing that inheritance just to say he’s out.

@johnmc3862 3 жыл бұрын

That works!

@kristoffarrell6899 2 жыл бұрын

Funny And Theo FishEatUs is closer

@kasvinimuniandy4178 2 жыл бұрын

This isn't the last business these two individuals will start. They will definitely find more opportunities and start more businesses.

@DrTune 3 жыл бұрын

Hillary's shoulderpads are thinking of putting in an offer

@sp3ckedout224 3 жыл бұрын

No the are not, they are coming “out”

@briano9397 2 жыл бұрын

I was yelling at the screen give these guys a deal. I've never been more invested in the people than the idea in my life

@STKS1991 2 жыл бұрын

They went out of business in 2011 as the fad passed.

@hughjohn7778 2 жыл бұрын

You should have invested u would have lost all your money to these wonderful people 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@briano9397 2 жыл бұрын

@@hughjohn7778 not even surprised. Just like the rest of my stocks I actually bet on🤦🤦 my luck is ass cheeks 📉📉📉

@rameezrazzak 2 жыл бұрын

Ran out of money and closed in 2011. Good call.

@nathanly8761 2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to say that these spas are really bad for the condition of the fish. In nature they feed on algae and bacterial film, so spa owners have to essentially starve them so that they're forced to eat whatever is in their tank. Due to that, the fish tend not to live very long (especially considering the sheer amount of pollutants introduced from someone's feet) as they waste away from not having their required nutrients. Majorly messed up

@dozermox9785 2 жыл бұрын

The fish somewhat enjoy it (I think), why wouldn't they

@269kd 2 жыл бұрын

@@dozermox9785 how on earth can you possibly say that? Are you a fish?

@poprobbob3856 3 жыл бұрын

The lady with the white coat looks like the evil woman from 101 Dalmatians

@juliet7703 Жыл бұрын

Yes but apparently she is a lovely lady

@khandadonb111 11 ай бұрын

@@juliet7703was

@kathleenwallace8252 11 ай бұрын

I thought wicked witch of the west.. Until I found out she had a stroke..so not sure if that had anything to do with?

@JeffsWig 10 ай бұрын

She passed away in 2022 I believe. RIP Hilary

@raymondtonks 10 ай бұрын

😂😂 a shame because she recently passed away RIP

@afaqz123 3 жыл бұрын

one of the better more qualified entrepreneurs on the show, well presented

@TheJohnCooperShow 3 жыл бұрын

Closest I’ve seen Peter get without investing

@leeshanpillay1253 3 жыл бұрын

You should watch more episodes then

@thehussarsjacobitess85 3 жыл бұрын

I loved the cafes in Korea that had those fish! But those were basically miniature ponds on the side, while the tea and coffee were the main attraction. Such a little tank does look unhygenic.

@pdan4 Ай бұрын

I think that was just for the demo. In the pictures on the posterboard, it looks like one long tank for like 30 people.

@joewas2225 2 жыл бұрын

I recently just started catching up on this show & I was REALLY HOPING for a Dragon to invest. These 2 people are highly investable, I would've. I don't even support pedicure type businesses either. But if I knew these 2 would be in my area, I would go. I loved these people.

@akiechhabra6300 2 жыл бұрын

Wow these guys dodged a bullet with this business. The number of regulations that came into play shortly after these Garra Ruffa fish businesses started doing well were absolutely crazy - there isn't a single developed market where these businesses existed for longer than 12-24 months - there were health hazards, ban on the fish, concerns relating to ethical standards etc. Still a big feature in the emerging markets though!

@pangaea5258 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@kingk2405 2 жыл бұрын

Yes the usual red tape. Very interesting comment 👍 Did it in Mexico ...really good !

@kingk2405 2 жыл бұрын

@Jao Bai Dun Yes but regulations in Europe are a pain in the a.r.s.e .

@AAAAAA-tj1nq 2 жыл бұрын

i would not dip my feet into a water tub of fish that have been used by other people stinking feet.

@Zerg435 2 жыл бұрын

@@AAAAAA-tj1nq Yes, swimming in a public swimming pool together with a 100 strangers is much healthier. Everybody wearing masks while swimming together?

@ccirish4519 3 жыл бұрын

So unsanitary. The water isn't changed and what if the fish drew blood? Would it be transmittable?

@bynamenature7747 3 жыл бұрын

A number of states in the USA have banned the fish (Garra Rufa) pedicures, as have Mexico, Canada and many countries across Europe. This is due to high cross-infection rates and cruelty to the fish, as they are starved to make them more effective. In many cases, owners have used a similar but cheaper and more aggressive fish, (Chin-Chin) which have teeth that can draw blood, further raising the dangers of cross-infection.

@originalunoriginal4055 2 жыл бұрын

Inevitably, the substitute fish will also see the same fate as their predecessors! Just a matter of "when" not "if" before a bill is passed to make it unlawful business practice using this particular fish!

@jakeevans9746 2 жыл бұрын

Garra rufa fish, the animals most commonly used in fish pedicures, don’t want to eat your dead skin. They do it because they’re so severely starved that they’ll try to eat human skin for sustenance.

@GarganoGambino 2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t these businesses go to the wall in 2011 & 12, due to hygiene concerns? …..there was an explosion of them opening up in 2010 & 11

@Red-Red-Red-Red 3 жыл бұрын

Had this done in thailand the same year this was filmed. Very tickly for the first 5 mins, then the fish get full up. Did i notice any difference? Yes, revitalising feet, and slightly soft feet but the novelty wore off the moment my socks went back on

@FUNKINETIK 2 жыл бұрын

I applaud Deborah and her comment. I had the same thought when I watched an episode of Shark Tank.

@ya00007 2 жыл бұрын

If they had a sushi restaurant with the foot spa, it would do better.

@jamesmate7716 3 жыл бұрын

Supposedly these fish would not usually eat human skin, however they're starved to the point that they do. Not something I'd ever support.

@daniel_johnson_pmbpk 3 жыл бұрын

Any business which relies on animals is one I'm normally quite skeptical of. That being said though, there are rivers in some of the most pristine, untouched parts of South Africa where fish will swim right up to you and nibble on your toes. While it's not their usual diet, they certainly seem very happy to eat dead skin when it's around. I think there are definitely valid environmental concerns around the industry though.

@daniel_johnson_pmbpk 3 жыл бұрын

If you're interested, there are clips in the second half of this video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9xylbaAqN6vdqM.html. Really adorable little guys :)

@wetdroidedition2549 3 жыл бұрын

Because you are a SJWs

@anandisrocking007 3 жыл бұрын

These fishes are natural cleaners and used by other fish to clean their mouth and body the are not starving......😅😅😅😅 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdhyfs1-u6vRfmw.html

@jamesmate7716 3 жыл бұрын

@@anandisrocking007 You've linked a different species of fish, eating entirely different food, in the wild. That has nothing to do with the practices seen in the video.

@ZafAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

I learned from this episode . Dont invest on what can be copied by others . Very true world is full of opportunist crocodiles

@h.a.6790 3 жыл бұрын

I disagree, its all the nitty gritty things that makes the difference. There's no innovations left to grow any kind of business unless you put huge amount of resources in R&D.

@TheBrass18 3 жыл бұрын

That really depends how invested you are in your business. If you are not interested in the subject matter of the business, then it will fail. Like anybody can start a car mechanic shop, but if you don’t know anything about cars or mechanical engineering, then your business will fail.

@Jaymiecain1 2 жыл бұрын

So you're telling me you wouldn't have invested in Mcdonalds, Burger King, Asda, KFC, Tesco? They own nothing and can be easily copied.

@dftknight 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jaymiecain1 their world famous brand is what they own. They make money by franchising the brand. They have copyright protection for their brand. A mom and pop restaurant without a brand name faces a more uphill climb and will have competitions copy it.

@anthosm 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jaymiecain1 If it was me I wouldn't... Because when you get a random burger place pitched to you 50 years ago the chances that it would become "McDonalds" was astronomically small. How many other burger places have shut down since? How many grocery shops never got to become as big as tescos and had to close down too?

@WornOnlyOnce 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t do fish 🐟 pedicures👣 I am soooo use to a foot file & bowl of water in a salon yeah ☺️ great pitch tho

@mrdiavel4807 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t there issue with these fish foot tanks in that people were getting infections off previous users like athletes foot and nail fungus ?

@fuglyMugly 2 жыл бұрын

Its gross

@CyberBeep_kenshi 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice folks and as sharp as their fish's teeth:)

@KENDYKICKSLONDON 3 жыл бұрын

It's in their nature.

@SanithMohanCase305 2 жыл бұрын

2:11 Peter is not sweating because of the Fishes eating his Crisps. That area usually makes everyone sweat. The past videos of Entreprenuers sweating is proof. Specially the 'Barry the Kirby Vaccum cleaner guy's video...

@CaptainMarmite 3 жыл бұрын

Ideal way to transfer foot ailments between customers. Avoid !

@leebirchenough8890 3 жыл бұрын

because of the water or the fish?

@CaptainMarmite 3 жыл бұрын

@@leebirchenough8890 The fish.

@joeblack363 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainMarmite how?

@LividCoffee01 Жыл бұрын

Duncan laughing at the beginning 🤣

@karara5532 2 жыл бұрын

duncan with that bedrock tie, wonder how he crafted it

@ninjaninja9954 2 жыл бұрын

This is the definition of "Asian level"

@user-pf3jd8gu3s 2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@CeyhunBabashov 3 жыл бұрын

I read the business closed down in 2011 due to financial difficulties and there is no news online on this business since 2011, except one blog written in 2014. Weird.

@jeffreyklima7612 3 жыл бұрын

I believe most in the uk were closed after a report of disease spread, which is prevelant in this process

@aajizana 3 жыл бұрын

Dragons be like. We really like the business, and you... and above all your aptitude. And for that reason, we're out.

@tobiasgoldman 3 жыл бұрын

Very impressive people. Those guys can go as far as one anything.

@TheMongolat 3 жыл бұрын

If anyone is making an Asian version of The Matrix, To would be the perfect Neo.

@korbindallas8224 3 жыл бұрын

Why's that?

@wintermute8315 3 жыл бұрын

Er... What?

@hungryrefrigerator5784 2 жыл бұрын

@@korbindallas8224 I’m assuming because he looks like the Asian version of Neo.

@gee3883 2 жыл бұрын

@ 1:30 I thought he said the guys name was toe jam, ffs

@gerardford9706 2 жыл бұрын

Peter was doing everything he could to say no here

@avarmauk 3 жыл бұрын

Smartest person I’ve ever met was a quant.

@avarmauk 3 жыл бұрын

@Andy Blue yep. His name is Yang. Look at his face, look at his eyes!!

@DD-ze1ki 2 жыл бұрын

@@avarmauk men of culture, as I see.

@stlotlekgosieng4027 3 жыл бұрын

I saw this in Cambodia(2016) and chickened out on it

@manoman0 3 жыл бұрын

Big thing in asia. I went in 2018, a whole pool, just sat in it and the fish happily chomped away dead skin. GREAT.

@Nostradamusknow 2 жыл бұрын

I would have invested not on the business but on the team for the very reason that they are Industrious, frugal and Determined, no matter what the odds be, this team will make money.

$@ifracing$

@ifracing 3 жыл бұрын

I had this done in turkey 20 years ago 🤣

@forlinginst 3 жыл бұрын

I'm with Deborah on this: I don't care for confinement of animals.

@kingk2405 2 жыл бұрын

Their strategy to grow slowly is very good . They do not want to be the next wework.

@stuffthings3728 2 жыл бұрын

I went to Lehmanns lol like it's the local shop, brilliant

@domjoseph2007 2 жыл бұрын

Honor!

@jovi911610 3 жыл бұрын

I feed them yesterday " With a few customers..*

@ayannacowie3052 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone remember when they did this in Victorious 🤣🤣

@TheKt75 2 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine if the fish started floating belly up after treating Peter's feet? 🙂

@charlesmackenzie32 3 жыл бұрын

Theo PaFEETis should have got involved

@ewolz 2 жыл бұрын

I have bad eczema on my feet, I need these fishes

@annikafernandes1549 2 жыл бұрын

Well qualified !!! I mean got degrees and stuff But finally opening a fish pedicure ??

@thapthoptheep2076 2 жыл бұрын

Duncan: Any competitors? To: Never mind that, you- it's irrelevant!

@maryphelps7381 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to try that .

@xxshreddaxx123 2 жыл бұрын

There's no way a foot spa owner is called toe jam

@Xposthmous 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you being part of a group that started the 2008/9 recession.

@Me-ui1zy 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes blaming individuals traders for trillion dollar decisons they had no role in. Its like blaming Lehmans cleaners

@DXmYb 2 жыл бұрын

Blame it on those that bought houses with no deposit

@kingk2405 2 жыл бұрын

I think what is missing to this program is the possibility of the people to invest if they find the idea interesting even if no dragons are interested . It could be done throughout small shares of 10 €£$. Personally I would like to have easy access by taking very small stakes (under 1000 £) into different businesses I feel they can do well . A sort of official ‘ Tontine ‘ the system used by the Chinese to help somebody to get some cash without any bank in order to open a business . Usually they ask the members of their communauty to invest and when the business starts making money the executive who runs the business buys the shares back with a profit for the investor .

@jh4803 2 жыл бұрын

This way is cleaner than using those tools

@droylsdenblue 3 жыл бұрын

Do you buy live fish? No we buy dead ones 😩

@TheJohnCooperShow 3 жыл бұрын

Toe Chan and toe jam

@manoman0 3 жыл бұрын

Big thing in Asia. I would have invested.

@jastat 3 жыл бұрын

Further proof that these investment banks employ the best of the best, and that the best of the best are interested in working there because the banks are willing to pay for the talent

@briano9397 2 жыл бұрын

Odd point but true

@quitethevoyeur 2 жыл бұрын

We have a different conception of the best of the best. Quants like Karen were engaged precisely in dreaming up the CDOs and CDSes which trashed the global economy

@johnfraser7464 3 жыл бұрын

Love Peter and his size 14 feet!

@jamesbondiv4072 2 жыл бұрын

They needed a big fish.

@asamusicdude 3 жыл бұрын

Hes gonna give the fish athletes mouth

@suzyturnovers5010 2 жыл бұрын

These fish bars are all over Asia. I'm kind of surprised that no Dragon brought up that there's nothing proprietary

@AnotherPointOfView944 3 жыл бұрын

It was very popular when it first came out. But because it is necessarily fresh water (not chlorinated) there were concerns about hygiene (athletes foot etc) being passed from customer to customer. So I think this idea came to an end in the UK because of that.

@centurion2396 3 жыл бұрын

@Dragons' den oh my god the rEaL dragons' den is commenting, i gotta invest in crypto with them...so do you speak hindi, yoruba, igbo or urdu?

@llllll58 3 жыл бұрын

@@centurion2396 lol

@i.canalista7718 3 жыл бұрын

@@centurion2396 dont be fooled open their account it's a fraud

@centurion2396 3 жыл бұрын

@@i.canalista7718 oh my god, are you serious, i already gave them my social number, my credit card, the name of my first love and what i ate for breakfast.

@aaronlomax6102 3 жыл бұрын

I did a google search and it appears they use tanks with UV lights in them to kill the germs. I hope that doesn’t hurt the little fishies.

@ggmusic6974 3 жыл бұрын

His name is Toe? First name Dip?

@blood5148 2 жыл бұрын

His brother is To-t-To

@g41thomas 2 жыл бұрын

Sank you, sank you

@PeterPan-qb3tb 3 жыл бұрын

The investment they asking is so small it won’t even cover operations and overheads in a month

@jaylondon283 3 жыл бұрын

it would cover it easily for 2 shops. 3months rent upfront, 3 month deposit. so for a soho venue say 40k to get the keys for somwhere like mayfair 70k. Camden, high end 40k Camden lock market 10k. then its just glass fish tanks and they renovate themselves. probably squeeze in 4 venues in London for that money with my mind and drive for business. I opened a fully operational sunbed shop all in 20k but you need to be prepared to really use your brain and time.

@kittivitkanokwanvimol9522 3 жыл бұрын

lol there're a lot fish spas in Thailand

@LordSolidusI 3 жыл бұрын

This isn't Thailand

@kittivitkanokwanvimol9522 3 жыл бұрын

@@LordSolidusI I know! but you don't need investment for just this

@Corne79 3 жыл бұрын

Deborah, I am so proud of you. When they started the pitched I immediately hoped you would decline for that reason

@vader745 3 жыл бұрын

you dont eat fish then ?

@Corne79 3 жыл бұрын

@@vader745 nope

@vader745 3 жыл бұрын

@@Corne79 well the majority do and what the majority wants rules

@sneakycheeky531 2 жыл бұрын

@@vader745 so random.

@KingKhan-vo9og 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised the owners are only on minimum wages 😬

@radiolmd6677 3 жыл бұрын

Looks dirty.. do they change the water? If someone with HIV or AIDS had their feet cleaned ... and bleeding occurred .. this would be dangerous

@bobbykotick1163 2 жыл бұрын

BBC did them dirty by cutting out any mention of the brand name

@zaideideh9525 Жыл бұрын

Saul would have been proud...

@stepheng4218 2 жыл бұрын

I don't agree with confinement of animals........welcome to Dragons Den

@benrose1874 3 жыл бұрын

Swear this is now illegal in UK?

@jaylondon283 3 жыл бұрын

I live in soho and at first it was busy, then it would sit empty I used to walk past everyday never one person inside, hillary was correct here. they work in markets pop up stalls near cheap nail bars etc. soho china town is way too touristic now for something like this. its just not what people go to soho for anymore. the soho venue would only ever of been good for a flagship/ adverting fo window shoppers.