Torque rods work by actually bending and absorbing the impact... I presume all other adapters are subject to this as well as perhaps longer sockets depending upon the material they made of...

please test torque multipliers

@@angus4202 Okay, but they aint cheap. Give us a bit :P

@@TorqueTestChannel considering the cheapest one ive seen on amazon is like $299 take your time

@Torque Test Channel now do this test again all with air impacts and see if there is a difference in %loss. Or try with electric guns that run at different rpms (high rpm small hammer) vs (low rpm big hammer) with extensions/adapters

We've tried 6 brands with no correlation so far, including Snap-On. Edit: Though if you're increasing rather than reducing, these seem to make a difference: amzn.to/3leaKL3

I feel like the tighter it is, the more likely to snap off. Probably loose fit is intentional.

Exactly what I was going to ask.

@@TorqueTestChannel i was trying to remove lugnuts on my tractor with a couple extension and an impact and it wouldn't come off. if i pressed the gun really hard into the extensions and lugnuts it came loose immediately. try that. push pretty hard into all the extensions, as if you were using a screw gun

Probably could matter, any kind of slop in fitment takes up some of the impacting force but also you can only make it so tight since you need to be able to get them on and off easily enough so the difference is probably very small

I was looking a specs on 1" wrenches and they want somewhere around 50 CFM, compared to something like 5 CFM on 1/2" wrenches.

Not to mention how inefficient air is, your energy costs will be much higher running that massive compressor compared to charging up a couple batteries.

the half inch line is your air resistor

@@drewlarson65 it can’t hold enough though or transport the air quickly enough.

Need the tank pumping air into a big holding tank filled up then turned on backing up the air that's being used to keep up but enough air to supply the gun, or just ask the company wat they are using for there tests there probably tell u

HTG , in 40 yrs of wrenching, have never seen an adapter conga line like THAT before...

100% correct

@@TorqueTestChannel With size adapters and a torq wrench, would the adapters affect the result of the torque wrench? i just bought some for this purpose.

I've massacred four 1/2 to 3/8 drive adapters doing this in 15 minutes just on 19-21mm lug nuts. I use an old USA made Craftsman breaker bar and it doesn't flex while going thru these adapters like butter.

@@raph882 hey mate did you get any answers to Wether it reduces what you should set the torque to?

​@@raph882The answer to your question is no. The centerline of the drive end of torque wrench and centerline of bolthead/nut will be the same, so it is not affected. Heck, you can use a whole bunch of extensions, as long as they are in a straight line from fastener to torque wrench, the torque wrench will still apply proper torque.

Do you mean from the 27% from 3/8 going up to 1/2. While having both is the right answer a 7% loss doesn't seem terrible if you are trying to break free a smaller bolt

@@clion520 sorry, I corrected my original post. I did mean 3/8 to 1/2. No, I don't see any issue going 1/2 down to 3/8 other than the fact that adapters snap easily. Seeing this, it makes more sense why ShopToolReviews welded the adapter to the socket, although this does bring up a scenario that was not taken into account in this test....if you take out the slop by welding it, is there a loss of power?

@@98ChevyK1500Z71 also.. ex. Having both 3/8 and 1/2” guns, as well as have 3/8 and 1/2” sets of metric and SAE impact sockets. Deep... and shallow. 🤔 maybe someday I’ll get there 😂

@@ianloyd6384I got that and even though my wallet is not happy they sure look beautiful together as a real family. 😂

I could agree with this, also using 12 point sockets might impact. I use my weak ass impact wrenches with any socket I have..

You can get lots of things done with just 1/2 and 1/4", just have to be mindful of what kinds of power you're laying down because driving an M14 bolt with 1/2" can easily go south

@@lolatmyage You can definitely get a lot done with those two. I have a small astro nano 1/2", an earthquake 1/2", and a skinny electric 1/4" snap-on ratchet. With good swivels for them, there's not much that forces me to grab a ratchet or wrench

There new video on the Milwaukee 3/8 vs 1/2 shows that the 3/8 of ANY brand actually outperforms or matches it's 1/2 counterpart

​@@user-sg4jm9oq6ddid this include ridgid? I saw a video comparing their newest 3/8 and 1/2 sub compact and the 1/2 came out on top

I have a 20 gallon buffer tank fed by my regulated air. My 1” impact is connected to the buffer tank with a 3/4” hose about 10 yards long. Works well even with a very basic compressor, haven’t put a gauge at the impact admittedly.

When we first saw it, we thought we did something wrong. There's no way we and everyone with similar shop air can be only driving 3/4" impacts at 80-90% beans, right?

@@TorqueTestChannel Can i just point out that you said you removed the wall regulator but you have a regulator connected straight to the tool, in my experience regulators always reduce flow so try putting a tee piece on the tool with a pressure gauge on it.

@@dazthedonrambo 40CFM max flow and 1/2" to 3/8" NPT fittings, but fair enough i see your point.

@@dazthedonrambo exactly what I was thinking.

In industrial settings everything is 1in air hose and chicago fittings. Plant air is usually not anymore than 130 or so psi but flow is never a problem. Some of the bigger guns will use 2 1in lines, 3 men and a crane to hold the weight. Nowadays that type of work is usually done with hydraulic wrenches or super nuts. great work guys.

Yes I haven't tested it myself but physics says extending where the turn point is, or having tiny gaps in connectors will reduce torque strength. I imagine the U-Joints for angles also reduces it quite a bit. I imagine a 3" reduces it less than 5" and 10" extensions. If you had a swivel/Universal joint socket on the end it could increase the loss by 0.5-2x depending on where it's at? (The nut/bolt end or directly connected to the wrench/ratchet/breaker) I have no clue how much loss there will be on combinations of different types of varying sizes and drive adapters used with swivel sockets/adapters

I also bought only ½" drive sockets and I'm getting a ½" dr Ryobi One+ HP 18v brushless Impact Wrench. I'm planning on ordering and paying off Gearwrench 6pt, 15pc Wrench set (metric) after watching this channel show 6 point wrenches beat 12 point and spline for not stripping or slipping on bolts/nuts. But I have a decent CR-V Impact socket set in metric coming from Amazon between the 3rd-7th all in ½". If I have to I'll use an adapter but I'd rather buy the sockets or wrenches I don't have in ½"/6pt box end/reversible ratcheting wrench set. I normally buy wrench & socket sets that have no missing ones. My Gearwrench on the way is 8mm, 9mm, 10mm, 11mm, 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm, 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm, 22mm. The ratcheting reversible Tollamark wrwnch set is 12pc from 8mm-19mm nothing missing. My Jeep is fully metric so I'm normally good with metric only. I honestly don't like SAE because of all the crazy fractions and not knowing if I'm missing a tool so I'll buy a metric replacement bolt&nuts set for suspension from BelMetric: SAE Grade 8/Metric Grade 10.9. My rear socks are: M12x1.75x70mm bot bolt M12x1.75x80mm top bolt (Hex Flange, Partial Thread, Coarse thread) Nut are M12x1.75 Grade 8/10.9 Sorry for ranting 😅

I recently bought a set of lo pro adapters from Ares (maybe Titan, I forget) because I worry about damage to the anvil when using the standard ones. Haven't used them yet but they fit beautifully. Amazon has a few offerings

I thought the same thing.

It's the sloppy fit that causes loss of energy. The tighter the fit, the less the loss.

Hey Nick So you wouldn't trade your 1/2 in to a 3/4 in? I also have the Makita 1/2 in with 1000Nm (DTW1002 in Europe) but was always wondering if I made the right choice

@@MattPrimefulL no I wouldn't trade it. I'm happy with it having owned it nearly 2 years. You can also buy 1/2 inch big sockets aswell so no need for an adapter. Most of the sockets I use aren't big anyway. Also It's very rare to come across any nut that the 1/2 inch won't remove which also applies to the 3/4 inch. Overall I'm glad I bought the 1/2 inch because most of my sockets used are 17mm, 19mm, 24mm and most often are 1/2 inch drives.... the minority of sockets are 3/4 and even the bigger ones nowadays are made for 1/2 drive.

Agreed. I would love to see the 3/4” stuff. maybe even without ideal air pressure to see if they are still worth using if you can’t feed them proper air.

I have a Makita XWT15Z that I run a 1/2 to 3/8 adapter all day long. yeah the adapter breaks eventually, maybe every few weeks haven't actually measure the time, but it does work. Now that I know I'm only loosing 7% or so, I don't think that is bad. the Makita XWT16Z the 3/8 version is rated 20 fl-lb lower on the max torque, and 50 ft-lb lower on nut busting, so at 7% it's a wash. But with the 1/2 i'm more versatile.

I think there is a video of that and I'm pretty sure there was a torque loss with the smaller fittings.

There would have to be, the restrictor would have a faster flow rate but lower pressure so there a bottleneck b

I've had plenty of snap on sockets fail chrome and impact. I've had bolts that a snap on socket would round but if i used a craftsman USA sockets came off no problem. I've beaten the hell out of cheap 10mm 3/8 husky chrome sockets using an IR2235 and though they wallow out I've yet to have one crack so far. IMO the only socket that snap on makes that is some what superior are their impact swivel sockets, and I've cracked/worn out four of those within two years. Their normal sockets are over priced no better than what I can buy at the box store for 5 bucks a socket.

Part number please!

@@TorqueTestChannelI'm not at work or else I'd look at mine personally and give it to you, but from what I found online its part# cp1612rbd

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@@TorqueTestChannel :D

Hey thanks! Yes we have a vid on wobbly adapters. Lots of beans lost

My advice is pick a brand with a lifetime warranty that doesn't make you pay for a replacement (snap on). Mastercraft/Harbor freight/ Princess auto

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