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nice test, though the answer was obvious to me, by doing screenprinting by hand, I started to have that classic inflamation on my elbows, not like a lot, I realized early enough, so what I did was attaching two thick metal plates to the ratchet-..?..donnou in english... for adding weight, so I wouldn´t have to push so hard, what a difference, I always do it so now. The test is as I expected, if instead of a paralel movement, is a spinning powered movement...yyyyup´h, and yes I think the fact that weight is very stiff as much closed to the source of spin, much more effective, if one is to make a cheaper casting of the socket, that can be the "short" way, in the case of your grandpa´s. When it comes about this powered spinning machines, the fact of the alignment makes a huge difference, on this tests of internet with drillers and stuff, often they say tha the user does not realy matter...hmmhh, in real daily life work, I see terrible things done to machines screws fasteners and users themselves, just by not trying it as straight as possible, relying most of the work to the strength of the motor. It is essential concentrating all the strengh and different forces involved as much possible aligned. Well similar to martial arts, categories by weight... good to see this concept of motion improved in such a way interesting channel, youtube is infinte ;)

This and a "flywheel extension adapter widget".

I bet at a certain point is going to be diminishing returns

The 2" impact wrench to turn it would cost thousands...lol..and who's holding it?... yikes...😬

Impacts don't turn flywheels very well due to the hammering effect. Have tried with poor results in the past. Not enough rpms.

@@fredygump5578 iirc impact sockets aren't hardened to prevent shattering when you know beat on

That math checks out

Yes on both cordless and air!

I always wonder how they actually work, though. Any good explanation (video) somewhere? Or maybe TTC can get into such details should they make a video about it?!

@@blockbertus i always assumed they flex (twist) within their elastic range which limits the power. Then they spring back between impacts. Thicker ones are stiffer and transmit more torque. they wont work with a ratchet or breaker bar because they never get a chance to spring back so they'll eventually exceed their torque spec and then get damaged. You also need to use a gun with a certain power range for them to be accurate. The ones i have seem to do a decent job but i still don't trust them for some reason. I use them for stuff that isn't too critical though.

@@blockbertus Think of them as a 'best guess'. To get them any kind of accurate you need to calibrate the stick to the gun, to the air system.

@@dafirnz torque sticks are great to not severely overtorque fasteners. It's an easy way to get relatively close. I like to use one stick under spec and hand torque after. Don't have to think about how many ugga duggas go into fastening and it's 1/8 to 1/4 turn before my torque wrench clicks for most wheels.

Removing as much internal friction as possible from the polishing probably did do a lot of good. I used to build race bikes with a co-worker of mine on the weekends and just by taking all the tranny gears and getting a really clean polished surface it would keep down gearbox temps and depending on what you were doing, get you some noticeable power / efficiency bumps.

Awesome

@@ObservationofLimits good to know. I’ll keep that in mind for future projects.

It's crazy how much difference a shorter and/or heavier socket can make

I worked at discount too!!! If we couldn’t get the normal sockets to work we’d use the larger power sockets!

For $100 couldn't you just buy a better impact? There are air impacts that can easily take those off at $150-$200

@@greod1006 if they have them bigger impacts we'd never get our wheels off we've again

@@andys31337 Yes you would. With an impact!

Love the vlog creations reference

is that the full pumps?

@@brandon2076 i fricken lost it when he started referencing the other bean videos in the car one😂😂

@@brandon2076 flooly pumps, dude it's food

@@Mcgweeezy “YOU HAVE FOOD IN YOUR GAS TANK” ..... flool plump?

a dude doing the opposite of busting nuts

@@dancearoundtheworld5360 I couldn’t agree enough

I thought the same. But I think the power sockets are meant for gaining power in a specific job that comes up often (and didn't exist when the shop was setup). So these are sold as individual sockets and if a set of them is needed then its worth it to upgrade the wrench.

Yeahh true, BUT you can make that weighted power socket yourself out of normal socket and a little bit of metal for maybe $5. Then it is MORE THAN worth it. :) So based od the results DIY weighted power socked DOES make sense.

100% works by preloading the socket in the direction you're going.

I was going to post the same thing, but checked first to see if it was already said. YES!

If you only need one or two sizes…. I can see it for a shop that has multiple mechanics, multiple impact wrenches, but keeps 1-4 common sizes of the power socket to be used by any tech as needed. Might be cheaper to pick up a few select power sockets vs buying one higher torque impact wrench or tryin. To replace multiple impact wrenches.

Sometimes I find it does. Good request.

Def makes a difference to the fastener lol

I would imagine it does as the tool itself can move from the impacts instead of the impacts transferring its energy into the fastener. That's lost energy. Also, you can make some semi-auto handguns malfunction by limp wristing them. The entire gun moves backwards which robs the energy transfer needed to cycle the slide.

I would say it definitely affects torque. It's likely just like letting a wheel spin while torquing on lugnuts, just from the other side. That energy that goes into your wrist is not going into the fastener.

Been thinking this since I found the channel. Needs a holder for constant results

Everytime we had a lug nut not come off when I worked at Discount Tire, we threw one of these sockets on and sure enough almost every time it took it right off.

Yea weighted sockets are always used once on a flywheel bolt and then they are forever in the toolbox. Seen this playout so many times myself included.

swench makes/made weighted socket extensions. They are just big cylinders with a female and male square ends.

Seems like it would be a terrible idea for a company that wanted to maximize profit when you can just sell each size.

@@garyrobinson3735 Well depends if you weren’t established in the weight socket market then you can undercut the competition with a far better alternative and scoop up all the sales.

You… I know you…

What if you just stuck magnets on the side?

Here's a 3/4 drive 24mm crank socket. baumtools.com/shop/land-rover/engine-tools-2/303-1438-24mm-crankshaft-bolt-socket-5-0l-v8/

Why not just weld onto a normal socket. Just put a sleeve or run bead after bead

Also, just asked a friend, he has a 24mm lisle crank socket he's willing to let you use.

They needed a 1/2 drive socket to compare apples to apples. Welding a on a socket with an extensions would probably create to many variables to yield any concrete evidence.

@@dougehouser5672 I weld on stuff all the time. Put my I initials on my spud wrench and socket. I even have a spud with a 1-1/4" socket welded onto it so it doesnt fall. The point of welding is to add weight. Just run beads or torch out a circle in a piece of chinking We also cut the sockets we dont use in half and weld em together so its a 1/2" on both ends. We then impact out cat tails. Sssoooooo much better than the old way

Is that to take advantage of the slop in the socket fitting so it can get little running starts to slam into the stationary nut?

@@wingerrrrrrrrr It's just cuz shooting sideways make you look cool, so you do cool stuff easier... obviously... not because the weight of the tool is working in your favor... All Swag

Wife here...

We'll do that. We're buying our 3rd brand/set soon

Absolutely. Spot on

Love my weighted balancer socket, works every time.

You bet! The answer is 20-34% across all tools we've tested (when you actually divide top power run vs bottom run to get increase).

We'll be working on it! Getting everything together, air swivels soon too!

@@TorqueTestChannel One thing that would be nice to have in that video would be to include whip hoses (e.g. the one Tekton makes). Whip hoses are what people are "supposed" to use instead of swivel fittings, and I'm curious if they are actually better than swivel fittings in real world testing

The problem with these sizes when tightening like we can measure is the threads for that drive size (16mm on a Honda) would mangle and not give any useful data.

@@TorqueTestChannel I would like to see the 19mm comparison also. How about welding a 19mm nut on the end of the regular large screw? With the slight modification you could test 19mm sockets and not worry about threads distorting.

@@TorqueTestChannel Maybe use the weakest 1/2 impact you can find and do a head to head on IR vs Lisle. I'll buy you a Lisle socket if you need one.

That seems like the solution to excessive power in the test rig. Limited power in, limited power out, and any differences could be validated. The only thing is that impact rate timing probably will be a variable that affects how well the power socket works, like the timing of pushing a kid on a swing as opposed to a burly man.

My son the mechanic had much the same experience. Two men working for an hour with breaker bar on my 2003 crv. Years later when a Friends civic using a weighted socket and bolt zips right out.

Not ruling it out, but at 9:29 didn't seem like a noteworth difference going from 6 to 12 point

Hence the reason to wear eye protection as he did. I saw one fly out when a rookie mechanic used it to take out lug nuts.

Heck, we're STILL skeptical. Almost don't believe our eyes, but yeah for the record the 35MAX is a garbage overrated gun so we're not enamored with IR by any means.

Was thinking the same thing. Buy a 3/8", 1/2" and 3/4" and that covers all the bases

Project farm did a video on this and they break more. If I remember right they didn't made more torque.

I'd like to see high speed photomicrography video of the IR socket in action, showing the outer ring moving like a torsion spring in relation to the central core. That's why the cutouts rather than filling it all in.

@@wingerrrrrrrrr No, the cutouts are there to provide the best distortion reduction to weight increase, ratio. Torsion spring action is exactly what you want to avoid because it reduces impact force in order to store energy and gradually dissipate, just as it does in any other application.