LMFAO YOOOOOOOOO I CAN SEE IT

Dead. New headcanon.

I remember reading this in a review way back when the game was just released. I guess that explains why I didn't mind all the over the top bullshit and genuinely enjoyed TTS for what it was.

spalec Trust me, you're not the first one who came up with that idea.

I look at Twin Snakes being the "Legend" of Solid Snake, as opposed to the truth

they'd fuck it up, probably add a horn to the MG Big Boss (medic) but leave something stupid like Dr Madnar's death intact even though it'll create a glaring continuity error in MGS4

Perhaps, despite the risk it'd be better to see that than yet another remake of Solid let alone potential remakes of sons of liberty and snake eater, which we didn't need a remake for to begin with. If only the remakes for MG and MG2: SS were made 8 years ago....

Don't let Konami remake them. Leave that to Kojima Productions.

I'm sure they'll remake them as pachinko machines...

I’d want a MGS3 Remake Nvm: There’s and mgs 2+3 hd collection on xbox 360 and is backwards compatible with xbox one

mgs4 sucks man

@@atatopatato Compared to what?

@@filipeflower compared to mgs1, 2 and 3 story wise.

@@atatopatato Can you provide more details about that?

The translation was better. in MGS1.

The original release? Yeah, agreed. Listening to the redub is actually a bit painful. It's not "bad", but its different enough to be distracting to someone who grew up on the original.

Vox Potentiae Despite the mistakes found in The Twin Snakes, you still act as if it doesn't mean anything?

Vox Potentiae pure facts

Ffvii, resident evil, resident evil 2, fear effect, parasite eve... Mgs is one of my favourite Ps1 games. Probs tied favourite with the above mentioned for me

You got lucky, because The Twin Snakes is a very expensive game nowadays.

@@filipeflower I got the original discs, but no longer have a game cube. I want to play them on emulator, but I have no mean to copy my discs, so I downloaded a copy of the ROM... It's a legality vs morality argument, if the publishing company doesn't actively publish and make money out of the game, I say it's okay to pir... you know the word. Buying a copy from a 3rd party seller for 200$ doesn't get the original publishers or dev teams any money anyway, I'd say it's no better.

Tobi You can aim in first person, but not with the degree of freedom that you have on MGS2. You can only aim horizontally, just like the third person mode, and I guess the only difference from pressing triangle to point at the enemy, then get back to third person and shoot is the missing camera changes. Also, I remember there being no dodging.

The MGS Integral first person mechanic works effectively the same as third person in terms of mobility. You can’t aim with any greater degree of accuracy (exclusively referring to control capability) in first person than in third person. It’s basically the POV button but you can move and shoot while using it.

How is that worth pointing out exactly?

Malamockq the video is about the effect adding the first person mechanic to the original mgs has on the gameplay, so it’s notable but unmentioned in the video that this feature was added in a different way to another version of MGS1

Because many people aren't familiar with that version, and remakes tend to use the final versions as their foundation. If we'd get a remake of MGS2, they'd most likely use as Substance its the template. The same would go for Snake Eater and the Subsistence or possibly even the 3DS re-release. If Metal Gear Solid 3 were to be remade and people would find the addition of a free camera and crouch-walking to be contentious, and compromising the game's design, then I'd say it's worth bringing up where those additions came from.

I got the twin snakes absoulty love it

I agree. It would have to opt for the Resident Evil 2 Remake approach by making an entirely new game from the ground-up, that only resembles the original in its aesthetic and story.

Agreed

Or it is a simulation???

"Due to the nature of their conception and development, the Les Enfants Terribles children possess enhanced abilities and durability, surviving and withstanding physical and mental situations that would easily kill a normal human." Twin Snakes cutscenes match MG's lore

Ever since when he wanted to work with him? I don't recall Kojima saying that before.

@@filipeflowerm This is what Furminger told me, it's possible that it's what Kojima told SK.

@@funnyguy150 Never heard of that one.

Shalashaska 994 To be honest it fits the universe he's in. Being able to survive a Metal Gear piloted by Liquid until Grey Fox arrives makes no sense in the original. Or being able to take out a tank with grenades alone. Or destroying a helicopter by himself like that.

Snake isn't a normal human, he was genetically modified to be stronger, faster, and more agile than Big Boss who was the perfect solider at peak human condition so it makes sense for him to do those movements.

Frosty It really doesn't. There's a reason none of the other games have shown such insane theatrics. It only appeals to little kids. Being genetically engineered to be superior in every way does not mean superhuman. It doesn't fit with the story of Les enfants terribles at all.

Shalashaska 994, What is he if he's not superhuman? The MGS universe has shown psychics, cyborgs ninjas, vampires, and almost invulnerable beings that would kill any normal man.

piplupfan78 He's just superior than average. The lore is super clear on this part. He's pretty much a Jason Bourne.

Glad i find a comment that actually keeping me to continue my Twin Snakes gameplay. Everyone in the comment just happen to hate every single of its content..

@@fahmiadlisulthani3275 1 year late, but both games are great, and twin snakes is just a different approach to the original, don't listen to people hating on TTS and if you can play both games and compare them for yourself, rather than just accepting the opinion of others

A_Stranger2256 i stop back in every couple months since theres hardly any good MGS vids on youtube to revisit when i reinvest in the games here and there

Same here! I feel like Twin Snakes is perfect for players new to the series since the controls will be the same for future games

@@Beetlejuice_Sam Except it doesn't have VR trainning, unlike MGS 1 and 2.

Twin snakes is so fucking bad lmao, hands down the worse remake of all time. Silicon knights are a dogshit company.

@@Beetlejuice_Sam I literally JUST played and beat my first ever MGS game! I played the first one (the original release on PS1) because I love retro gaming. I agree with most of this video. And to be honest, there were aspects of the game that blew my mind (in terms of creativity) even WITH my modern lens.

This is what I'm looking forward to try because I'm really struggling to get into the PS1 version.

Agreed. Plus as someone who never had a Playstation when I was younger, I’m glad Nintendo provided a way to experience the game

Demon Dethchase And from the ashes a new Konami will be born, evolve but untamed!

Demon Dethchase how great would it be if they just said screw it to franchises like Metal Gear and Castlevania and sell them off to other publishers that actually care about the property. I'll be honest, I want Playstation exclusive Metal Gear. They'd do it justice and even though he would probably never want to be in charge of directing the series again, since Kojima Productions is a Sony exclusive developer, he could be a consultant on the series. At least make it a timed exclusive. Metal Gear at Sony just makes the most sense if Konami didn't care about it anymore and wanted to sell it for some fat stacks of cash (its not like Survive is doing wonderful things for them).

Tyler Worsham I'd love Platinum to comeback and make another Rising game, but no doubt with Kojima voicing his desire for that, if it ever was in production, the big wigs at Konami probably shut that down quick style either before, or after, Kojima left.

I was so hyped when I read about it, and platinum's social media started to post MGR images teasing something and then the fallout occurred......after that nothing about that game was posted and I think silently it was cancelled, damn I would love to see a sequel but well, at least the one we got is a great game!

Kevin Mejia Nier: Automata was kinda confirmed to be born from the ashes and framework of MGR2. To be more precise: the director tackling MGR2 later became Nier:A's co-director working with Yoko Taro, after his MGR2 project was put on indefinite hold.

Your thought about the Matrix shows that you are sheltered and only watch Hollywood movies because the Matrix did not invent any of that. All of that is Asian and the director of the Twin Snakes cut scenes is Kitamura Ryuhei who is the famed Japanese director of Versus and Midnight Meat Train. The Matrix COPIED from Asian movies. Also, its shows you aren't the fan of Metal Gear that you think you are. Metal Gear characters are all superhuman including Snake. The fact you didn't realize that only highlights your ignorance.

​@@DaRunningMan I know you're most likely a troll but sure, I'll feed you just once. "The Matrix COPIED from Asian movies." No shit, tell me more about how it borrows elements from Fist of Legend (Including why they tracked down Yuen Woo-ping and asked him to be their fight choreographer), Ghost in The Shell and a whole lot more kung fu and anime films of the time. There was also an interview where the Wachowski's listed the influences on the script and the movie and that information has literally been available to the public for the past 22 years at this point. Is water wet? I'm sure you will tell me. "All of that is Asian and the director of the Twin Snakes cut scenes is Kitamura Ryuhei who is the famed Japanese director of Versus and Midnight Meat Train." Again, no shit! Kitamura Ryuhei is Asian? WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED! Next you're gonna tell me that all the Japanese people I lived with in Japan were Asian... OMG.... I DIDN'T KNOW! I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE ASIAN!!! You also mention Versus and The Midnight Meat Train in relation to the game, The Twin Snakes, and The Matrix, so let's look at those now! You say that The Matrix copied from Asian movies right after listing those two so let's see when everything came out. The Matrix: 1999 Versus: 2000 MGS The Twin Snakes: 2004 The Midnight Meat Train: 2008 Wow, look like The Matrix came out before all of those things listed... interesting. Also I have a copy of Versus on my shelf, it's pretty damn low budget and not really Matrix like outside of wearing trench coats and trying to look cool doing martial arts in the woods with super fast cuts and crappy wirework which was the style of the time just about everyone was trying to ape because.... The Matrix? HOLY SHIT WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT! I should also point out that Kitamura only directed the cutscene's for The Twin Snakes, not the entire game. I will also point out that it was at HIDEO KOJIMA'S DIRECTION that he go back and redo them all as they were originally 1:1 with the PS1 version and wanted more action, so he said "Okay, time to copy The Matrix in terms of style!" As for MGS and superhuman characters... some are, yes, but Snake is just a clone of Big Boss who was just a legendary badass soldier who didn't possess any kind of superpowers. Sure, you can argue that they messed with Snakes genetics and I will give you that, but it does not let you backflip kick off an airborne missile and jump 10m into the air to shoot a rocket into an inflight Hind-D that carries your twin brother who thinks he is the inferior one when it turns out it WAS SNAKE WHO HAD THE REJECT GENES AND WAS STILL A BADASS. Maybe proving that combat experience and intuition may not be genetic and that anyone can hone them? But that's getting into MGS5 territory at this point. And yes, "Nanomachines, son!" will not be accepted as an answer explaining how everyone is able to do something because it's the catch all response even in universe which is pretty lazy writing. So in conclusion: I have been playing Metal Gear since the MSX days on an actual MSX so go fuck yourself? Have a good one! P.S.: Is water wet?

@@worsel555 "I know you're most likely a troll but sure" No, I'm serious. " No shit, tell me more about how it borrows elements" You didn't know anything about Asian cinema when the Matrix came out. Everyone who never watched any Hong Kong action films where the ones stupidly saying "Matrix" every time they saw someone wearing a trench coat or doing action in slow motion. You're exactly what I said you are. A sheltered boy that only watches Hollywood movies and thought the Matrix invented all that. You only found out a little about Asian movies after the Matrix. When Twin Snakes came out, all the idiots complaining about the cut scenes only saw the Matrix and no Asian cinema. You just repeated everything they were saying on those mindless message boards because you didn't know what you are talking about. The fact that you are still writing "Matrix" even after claiming that you know about Asian movies means that you are even more dense than I thought because you are just saying these things out of habit. "You also mention Versus and The Midnight Meat Train in relation to the game" No, I didn't you illiterate child. I said that in relation only to Kitamura Ryuhei, to identify the director by some of his work. The fact you tried to build an argument around this shows that you can't read well. "not really Matrix like outside of wearing trench coats and trying to look cool doing martial arts in the woods with super fast cuts and crappy wirework which was the style of the time just about everyone was trying to ape because.... The Matrix?" Uh... no. Thanks again for proving how ignorant you are of cinema outside of Hollywood. The trench coat thing was popularized by John Woo in the 80s. Wirework was incorporated into action scenes in Asian cinema decades before. None of these things were invented by the Matrix but you still insist it so. Plus, Kitamura made very clear that his influences for Versus were samurai movies, Evil Dead, George Romero, Mad Max, Highlander, etc... NONE of that is Matrix. You have no idea what you are talking about. "As for MGS and superhuman characters... some are, yes, but Snake is just a clone of Big Boss who was just a legendary badass soldier who didn't possess any kind of superpowers. " No, he isn't just a clone. Solid Snake is a straight up superhuman and that is made crystal clear in the games. Snake was modified genetically to be stronger, faster, and more agile than Big Boss. Solid Snake took out a tank, a psychic and a deadlier Metal Gear than the one from before. Snake fought Grey Fox who is cybernetically enhanced and fought him to a standstill hand to hand. Snake survived a hallway of microwaves which a normal human would have died in 2 to 3 seconds in then went on to kill Liquid Ocelot. In the last cutscene of Metal Gear 1 we literally see Solid Snake outrun Outer Heaven's Nuclear explosion which if you didn't know that's faster than the speed of sound. Solid Snake is superhuman and that's not debatable. Twin Snakes is more accurate to the sequels of MGS as it's completely consistent to them. You have no idea what you are talking about. "So in conclusion: I have been playing Metal Gear since the MSX days on an actual MSX " The irony of this statement is hilarious. Not only do you not know much about movies outside of Hollywood, not only did you prove that you are illiterate but here you claim you are such an expert in Metal Gear Solid yet I just proved you don't know much about it. You're just repeating comments you read on online forums without thinking. Talk about an NPC.

I know this is 2 years old comment, but just gonna say, the director of the cutscenes originally planned to make them as close as possible to the PSX ones, the one who wanted the more "matrix-like" scenes was Kojima himself.

@@DaRunningMan Snake was not superhuman

Yeah the hate it gets some times is uncalled for

And the not-so-good voice acting.

it is not the best game in the world. TTS is just a tribute.

You got that from Tenacious D.

It stands on its own really well actually. I played both games simultaneously and enjoyed aspects of both. Twin Snakes was more pleasing to the eye and forgiving while the original was more of a rough diamond(due to the age).

"Due to the nature of their conception and development, the Les Enfants Terribles children possess enhanced abilities and durability, surviving and withstanding physical and mental situations that would easily kill a normal human." Snake is superhuman, he's supposed to do stuff like this.

I have been wishing that for a while. The soundtrack of the PS1 version is SO MUCH BETTER.

That is the only thing I miss from this remake. It’s great and all but how could they skip on on the music?

This, 100 times this. The voices and music made the game memorable, and they messed with that... with the soul of the game

Higharolla Kockamamie I have the exact opposite feeling. For starters the black darpa chief having the voice as the white guy is tone deaf as fuck. Second I love Greg eagles. Garcian Smith is one of my favorite portrayals of any character. But him as grey fox sounds atrocious. He sounds like me if I was doing an 89 year old smoker voice and frankly he just sounds like a fucking idiot.

Lord Dio! The torture that Eagles used with his voice sold the character to me. Rob Paulson just soinded like he was trying to do a Snake impression. Even the Portable Ops voice was better than Paulson.

And still they accepted him back.

Hikaro torture? Sure you can call that garbage attempts at wheezing torture.

Except they kinda fucked up the story setting.

How so? I mean I definitely prefer the original MGS but I think Shadow Moses was recreated really well. Would love to hear your thoughts on it, though! :D

Gotakibono I said story, not the scenario. The scenario looks almost identical to its original counterpart. I mean, the story. For example, when Gray Fox dies in The Twin Snakes, he was carrying his High Frequency blade, which for some reason, he wasn't carrying it in the original MGS.

Immersion = ruined

filipeflower That’s probably because twin snakes reuses many assets from mgs2, they were to lazy to make a new sword model.

No

Same

Or rather mg 1 and mg 2: solid snake :D

@@malik87breaker I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.

deadmetalbr the director wanted the original directions. But Kojima told him to use his style.

Another idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about. Metal Gear characters are all superhuman including Snake. The fact you didn't realize that only highlights your ignorance. All of Kojima's cut scenes after the first MGS game are like the ones in Twin Snakes. Twin Snakes are actually more consistent with MGS2 and beyond than the first version of MGS.

@@DaRunningMan nope, not at all. If you can't tell the difference between a cutscene showing snake beating up a lot of dudes in cqc, like what there is in mgs 3 or 4 and a cutscene showing snake jumping over a missile like in tts, there's no point on arguing

That's a good question.

CENTRA STUDIOS It’s something straight out of DMC3

They have the enemy AI with attack teams and status updates. I’m playing it right now on the Wii.

"Due to the nature of their conception and development, the Les Enfants Terribles children possess enhanced abilities and durability, surviving and withstanding physical and mental situations that would easily kill a normal human." Snake is superhuman

DemonKingCozar Still the best remake of all time.

That would be a short retrospective: it's a flawless masterpiece and the best survival horror game to date. P.S: I would still watch it if it came from Hamish :P

While I agree, I also think that RE got a lot to improve and the remake didn't needed too much to get the job done, but the original MGS was a masterpiece, it only needed better graphics since it already had his own style and no change was necessary.

Mighty1 all topics Hamish could cover

@@CrookedStepsHardHeaded That's where you're mistaken, because there were issues found in the original MGS game, such as script mis-translations, for example.

Not my case.

"how much effort was put into it"?? Are you fucking serious? TS is easily one of THE most low-effort "remakes" ever made!

I dont think effort was the problem The problem came from people who clearly didnt understand the material they were working with or what made MGS1 the masterpiece it was

And the voice acting too. And the lack of VR Trainning.

Actually, the VR training that Raiden was refferring to is actually the VR Missions disc for the PS1.

Except that's not what Raiden said. He was refferring to Metal Gear Solid VR Missions for the old PS1. They even show footage of that.

Well yes, Kojima has always been a moron when it comes to that shit.

Your point being...?

Just that the idea of weird things happening in a Metal Gear Solid cutscene is par for the course, even at this point in time when The Twin Snakes was released.

Even so, there's no evidence Hideo Kojima had this planned since the 90s, even if he claimmed he did. It must be a lie, given the contradictions I found.

@@filipeflower Who cares? My point is that the weirdness of TTS is right in line with everything else regarding the series. In fact, it's far from the worst offender of the stranger elements of the MGS series. Psycho Mantis reading your memory card, Liquid living on in his arm that was transplanted onto Ocelot (not counting the equally as strange ret-con in Guns of the Patriots), Ocelot jumping 30 feet into the air into Metal Gear Ray, etc.

Kojima wanted a redub of the script to match the Japanese version because he hated the english dub.

Impossible considering the others in the series had Matrix theatrics. Especially 3,4, and maybe 5

"Due to the nature of their conception and development, the Les Enfants Terribles children possess enhanced abilities and durability, surviving and withstanding physical and mental situations that would easily kill a normal human."

No, thank you!

Also they ruined Naomi and Bae Ling by getting rid of their accents

@@rightinthedome9973 1- You can actually change the difficulty settings before starting the game. 2- Naomi and Mei Ling's accents never made sense to begin with.

@@filipeflower Naomi lived in a British colony and both of Mei Lings parents are from China. They made perfect sense

@@filipeflower the difficulty settings doesn't make a difference. The game isn't designed for these controls making it entirely to easy

@@rightinthedome9973 1- That depends on who's playing the game. You can try recording yourself playing MGS The Twin Snakes on Extreme mode without the Soliton Radar and with 'Game Over if spotted' switched on. I doubt you'll have an easy time with that. 2- Not really. Naomi herself was never British. It was never clear as to what her true origin really is. And as for Mei Ling, it was stated by herself that she was born and raised in America, so the heavy Chinese is out place in this context. And that's also why they no longer have those accents in MGS 4. David Hayter seems to agree with this.

Play it on your PC on extremely good visuals compared to the GQ or a possibly switch version.

There was one guy I argued with who claimmed that the M9 gun kinda makes the game easier to pass, but that doesn't mean you can't change the game's difficulty in the beginning.

@@filipeflower even on Hard the game is too easy. Shooting in first person breaks the game as MGS1 was not designed with it in mind. You have to play on Extreme to get any real challenge.

@@the757general2 That depends on who's playing the game. You can't speak for everyone. Also, MGS 1 did have First-Person Shooting mode (specially if you play the Integral version of that game). By the way, why are you replying to a 3 years old comment?

@@filipeflower You should stop arguing with everyone.

@@theexpresidents And who are you to accuse me of that?

I'll remember you

Me fucking too, bro, me fucking too.

KinnikumanUpLoader01 Just emulate it.

TheSorrel OBJECTION! You just admitted that you never actually played the original MGS and yet you think you have a basis to claim The Twin Snakes has that same feel?

I said it has the same feel everyone keeps talking about when discussing the original.

TheSorrel You still lack evidence or even a basis for that.

Dude, its a feeling. There is no evidence for that. There wouldn't be any evidence if I had played the original. People say that the Original has an atmosphere of isolation, a grittyness that makes the situation feel real even though its completely ridiculous and the way the characters behave and talk and what is happening to them makes this story feel intimate but grand. This is what I felt playing The Twin Snakes.

TheSorrel Exactly who are those people you speak of?

V.dixiesubmarinetransmissionplot Should be fine.

Your point being?

@@filipeflower If you don't like TTS, that's fine, but I personally find it baffling that most fans forgot that MGS2 and the fan favourite MGS3 especially also have crazy, over the top, action oriented cutscenes like The Twin Snakes, and somehow they get a pass with Vamp (I know he's a vampire, but it's still ridiculous) running on water and walls.

@@Jahlil.W Actually, I find that exaggerated too. As for The Twin Snakes, I have both versions of MGS1, so I can tell what those are like. I even bought a silver GameCube to play MGS The Twin Snakes and Legend of Zelda Wind Waker.

@@filipeflower Fair enough.

@@Jahlil.W Also, I noticed that TTS doesn't have VR training. What's up with that?

LambHoot RH I already knew that way before you posted this comment (thanks to alexfung23).

"Due to the nature of their conception and development, the Les Enfants Terribles children possess enhanced abilities and durability, surviving and withstanding physical and mental situations that would easily kill a normal human."