Uncle Jesse, are you going to be reviewing this printer? Thats honestly what im waiting on to decide if i will buy it

Mr Jessy plz review

Yes review

We thought so too!

It's definitely heavy duty and very rugged. The build quality was immediately noticeable when we saw the machine for the first time. -Peyton

People aren't just comparing the core xy aspect. They're comparing the multi material systems and how similarly they look as a whole.

Wouldn't a patent mean that it is, well, public? Isn't that the sole reason why coca cola never patented its formulated, so they can keep it secret and the patent cant expire? If i had to guess, strain gauge or piezo elements, either in the toolhead or at the bed mounts.

This scam printer shipping q1 2025 now, wow.

We enjoyed printing with it, we only wish we had more time! We're looking forward to receiving Arco here in Florida so that we can really put the printer to the test.

Our first impressions were positive! We're looking forward to getting more hands-on time with Arco once we receive units to our HQ in Florida.

Thank you for your support! Maybe we can host a 3D printing meet and greet someday?

If you do, im in! ​@@SliceEngineering

from what i saw in phrozen's slicer demo, they will have an option to select "colour A" and say to print at 200 degrees, while printing "colour B" at 260 degrees. It also allows you to change the print speed of each filament in the chroma kit too.

Other than the fact that it’s CoreXY, moves fast, and has a sleek design, personally I think they feel quite different from one another in practice. Arco feels very rugged. You can tell immediately when you see it for the first time. The low center of gravity only adds to the effect.

It essentially is, it's the first real machine to directly compete with Bambu while leveraging the gantry design from Voron. What most of these companies don't know is it's not the speed or even 4 color AMS that sells the Bambu. It's the ability to relatively flawlessly print anything without any setup or calibration. I have reverted to not even performing filament calibration and my prints are great. I set 0.02 PA for every filament and run eSun stock profile. It still prints better than days of testing, tweaking, and calibration built profiles.

The gantry is only superficially like a Voron 2.4, as it only has 1 stepper running all 4 z screws via belts, so it can't auto tram the gantry to make it parallel to the bed.

No pretty different and most important it is open Klipper and not stohlen closed Klipper

Well Its not only larger but the bed doesnt move either.

Arco uses nozzles with the same thread length as "volcano" nozzles, 14 mm. The cusom, co-branded version of GammaMaster for the Arco stretch goal will be the same. You can see it at 04:22

Phrozen has indicated so far that enclosure temperatures can reach at least 10°C above room temperature. They have documented some of their testing in the Arco Launch Facebook Group.

What makes you think that they don't have resonance compensation built in ?

If you dont mind the fact that you need a buffer, you can simply use a ercf or annex trad rack. They do exactly the same thing minus rewinding the spool and being a dry box. A annex trad rack for example can be built for less than 100 dollars. Benefits are obviously the price, you can add as many colours as you want, especially on the trad rack you have no limitations, and can use cardboard spools. Downsides are of course no dry box, no spool rewinding, you have to build it yourself. The reliability of colour changes of the arco is the same as the bambu, a filament cutter, at least it was mentioned in the video. So pretty much a 1 to 1 copy of the system bambu lab uses

Creality is supposedly announcing their klipper compatible multimaterial system this week.

The printer is currently on Kickstarter. Phrozen has indicated that the printers are slated to move into production around May, so final tweaks and improvements are being made based on community feedback before they start mass production. It is not uncommon for a Kickstarter campaign to showcase a Beta unit since the purpose of Kickstarter is to fund the first round of production. The machine delivered to backers will not be a Beta version, but the first production version of Arco.

That's a fun idea! We'll pass it along to the Phrozen R&D team!

My two cents: It’s clear Phrozen took inspiration from Voron, but what I think makes it unique is that it’s designed to work out of the box. The performance of Voron without the time and hassle of building one for people who are not interested in that. Plus, that’s not getting into the multicolor capabilities. The Slice nozzle is a stretch goal for the campaign as an added bonus for backers!

Agreed, I also take issue with multi-million dollar companies using a Kickstarter when they clearly don't need it. They are just using for hype and to build a pre-order count. I won't support stuff like this. Show me real innovation, or forget it.

Nope, the gantry can't tram as all 4 z screws are run off one stepper, so the entire point of the Voron's flying gantry is lost.

​@@robhall5622only very few pre built printers have a true self leveling bed. The twotrees sk1 has a 3 point bed leveling, magneto x has a 4 point bed leveling, the qidi q1 has 2 point bed tilt, the elegoo orange storm giga has probably 2 point gantry tilt (hopefully), sovol sv07 has 2 point gantry tilt, formbot Marathon 3 point bed, formbot troodon series are essentially pre built vorons with rrf instead of klipper. But most core xy nowadays have three z leadscrews, in the case of the arco 4 for the gantry, so you could probably add that feature, if they haven't done the creality move and removed the necessary modules from klipper. If so, can you add them back, or even update klipper to the mainline fork?

We use concrete pavers under printers to dampen vibrations the printer experiences and generates during printing-partially by adding mass and lowering the center of gravity of the setup. The comparison to Arco was to illustrate that the printer is bottom-heavy, it almost has a built-in, secured paver at the bottom to help hold the printer stable while the printhead is moving. Regarding bed leveling, during the limited time we had working with the printer, we did not get the chance to ask further questions about how it works. Once we get Arco to our office in Florida for more intensive testing, we plan to conduct more thorough testing of the bed leveling system.

@@SliceEngineeringthat's not what the paver does. Unless you're bolting the printer to the concrete slab, it doesn't have any effect on the mass or centre of gravity of the printer as it's external to the printer and they aren't rigidly coupled. The point of the paver is to physically decouple the printer from the work surface to prevent resonance harmonics which cause the table to act as an amplifier for the vibrations the printer makes, and to work effectivly the paver should be sat on something that can deform elastically, like foam. On the bed levelling, your answer makes sense, but is at total odds with what is said in the video. "I wasn't able to get a whole lot of info about the way their bed levelling works because it's patented" is not the same as "we did not get the chance to ask further questions about how it works", and because something is patented doesn't mean it's secret, and various patent database searches has shown Phrozen own zero patents related to bed levelling on an FDM printer.

" Hey look ! The king has arrived with his judgement! Let's all listen ! " Said no one ever. So demanding... Whatever you want Mr king. Go build one jackass if you are such an expert.

​@@aarrodri 😂😂

People have been asking for a Bambu XL since the day thrir first machine came out, and complaining about their closed ecosystem just as long. By answering those 2 demands, as long as the hardware is solid, this machine will do just fine.

@@aarrodri Hey, Andrew! You looked cool in the video, especially the mask.

Hehe exactly. Unfortunately I have heard about not great phrozen support in case of hardware issues with their resin printers, And it’s hard to find that on yt.

We plan to conduct more rigorous testing once we receive printers to our HQ in Florida, comparing materials at different speed levels is a great video idea! For this first impressions video, we recorded it at Phrozen's HQ in Taiwan last week, and due to the nature of international travel and filming logistics for this video (and a couple more we have coming soon), we only had about 48 hours of hands-on time with the printer. We wanted to show as much of the printer as we could to announce the stretch goal collaboration, and we have further testing planned for the future. Are there any other tests or videos you'd like to see with Arco once we get our machine?

@SliceEngineering TPU, Petg and PLA plus are the main ideas but part strength and visual quality are more important than speed. Who cares about a nasty looking inaccurate weak print that comes out fast? I call those junk prints. We print to make great prints period. Strong accurate and looking great. Talk about not being forced to send files thru foreign servers and IP protection. Are these built in Taiwan or China?

He has to sell it though, can't you tell? So he can get those nozzles sold.

I sort had gotten used to a life without the crazies. But apparently they did not all perish.

Sure thing bot. Why go with the best product of the year and revolutionary technology when I have have my open source sub par Creality !? /S

@@aarrodrilmao name one thing revolutionary about any bambu lab product. They brought nothing new or revolutionary to the 3d printing market. Everything about their printers already existed on other printers. Bad bambu bot.

"RIP bambu lab" 😂😂 dude chill out.

Talking about customer support. Arco has 20 agents per the video slice posted. How well do you think they will keep up with support tickets compared to Bambu? Lol I don't need a crystal ball to see that they are going to have major problems keeping up with the number of tickets they get. From looking at the unit, I bet the cable chain is the first thing to break and need replaced. Looks super flimsy. How "Real" can their customer service be with 20 people covering a product that is sold internationally?

@@Rebelgod420420 A shit ton better than bambu lab lmao. All it takes is 1 person to answer a hundred tickets a day. I've been doing it for years. Bambu lab could have a thousand people in customer servicee and they would still have a 3 week lead on answering. It's because bambu lab simply doesn't give a shit about customer service. It has absolutely nothing to do with being "shoortstaffed". Its just the fact that they don't care.

Speak It! 😂 If they haven’t figured out by now that masks don’t work I don’t think I can trust their critical thinking skills….

Oh no! Anyway.. go away..

​@lipinskirl but. They do?

@@JohnSmith-rt5yq 😂 Ok if you say so… But No they dont. The KN95 mask will stop 95% of >5nm particles. Surgical masks will stop 75% of >20nm particles. BUT Covid is

I hate to bring this to you, but if anyone wearing mask in a company, means you will not buy their products, then you cannot buy anything from Asia. For like 50 years or whatever. I hate to see you go, but I guess we will never see you again then?