Honestly, it really is. I hope more enfranchised players see and watch this content, as it's pure gold.

It literally just is, and these guys are without any doubt the goats

Also that Survival is good because it asks you to brew up a deck that can break it while Oath of Druids is bad because it punishes your opponent for playing the game normally. That's the #1 thing I've learned from Patrick in this series -- early MTG was loaded with cards that punished people for playing the game and they didn't figure out to stop doing that for many years.

How much of a boost can you give the set for rarity symbols? It's not like those symbols had anything to do with the plot or design of Exodus. It's a really good idea that just happened to debut with Exodus. The ratings are based more on the design and development of what the cards do.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was something silly originally like, "Add one mana from the following colours: white, blue, red, or green. You may not choose the same colour more than once per game."

The Exodus frame is only a minor update to the Mirage frame, just adding the rarity symbols and centered bottom. That doesn't constitute a frame change in most people's eyes because nothing essential to game information moved nor did anything change size. Further, the Mirage frame is pretty close to the Beta frame in that it has the same border and box widths. Font sizes vary widly on the Beta frame and they finally quit doing that with Mirage, which had a much smaller range of font sizes, something they've continued to this day. From Arabian Nights on, a frame with a thinner border is used (it matches the border used on the current frame) and the color saturation varies over time until it's finally unified in Mirage. Scryfall does mark 1993 and 1997 frames as different (even though the 1997 frame came out in 1996 with Mirage....) and you can search on that, but I don't think most players consider the two entirely new frames. So I'd argue that the "retro frame" as we call it today is really the Mirage frame, but I think most players think of pre-Mirage frames as retro as well since the differences between them are pretty small and the frame is 90% the same from Beta until Scourge.

@@JD-gk7eh I'm using the standards introduced in Exodus to define the "retro" card frame because it's the way that wotc prints cards now when they print "retro" framed cards. It's not that it was a huge shift in the way the frame looked prior but it is what many in the community (myself included, really) seem to think is the ideal form of a magic card and that standard really only existed for 5 years.

@@Cthuski For most people its the same frame. Like, if you ask magic players, 90% of them will not even know the frame changed really except for the rarity symbol.

@denissinner4625 all I'm saying is when they print retro framed cards, the look that they are going for was the standard only between 98 and 03. It would be noticeable if they printed a new card into a frame that was made to look like it was from 94

It is interesting -- that said these old frames will always be what magic looks like to me :)

I had a inkling that that was the case.

You are a nerd

yeah this is easily in the top 5 of MTG content at the moment, deserves at least 100K subs (not everybody is into old magic sets, hence the modest number)

Hatred is such a sweet commander card, shame it's so expensive now

@@Lucarioguild7 You clearly have the wrong card. Oath of Lieges costs 1W. That's not "in green." It puts basic lands into play and has nothing to do with creatures.

@@JD-gk7eh Wow that's what I get for arguing on the Internet right before bed lol

@@Lucarioguild7 It happens to all of us. :p With that, you should try Oath of Lieges sometime. My group has enjoyed the card when I've cast it. It helps keep the parity of the game going pretty well and we've found it to help nicely. I suppose there is the case where one player can get ahead on mana with it if he's got no lands and a lot of mana rocks but this isn't as common (plus casting all those rocks takes time and so that player still falls behind).

Also Niv Mizzet and Curiosity going brrrrrrr in commander is totally a thing and deserves a mention

Why’s that??

@@r4v4g3r It's a combination of Commander players driving prices (there's something appealing about shroud at instant speed apparently) and the fact that Cranial Plating has been printed 30-something times and is no longer worth anything.

Not a real set

Yep, but can i confess i didn't love Spencer's art, as a whole? I know I know.....

@@jondorsey2043 his black cards are the ones that really shine. His depictions of nature/humans are a little too comics aligned

@@chaddt As a lifelong comic book fan, i feel you!

Unglued is largely full of insider jokes

@@chiblast100x I think without consulting with someone who actually worked on the set, it would be difficult to even compile every single reference on every card. You get the ones you get, but if there's something you don't, you might not even know it. You could understand some obvious joke, but not realize there's a second inside joke in the art, or the flavor text, or whatever. Unhinged is probably even more difficult in this regard. Though at this point, I would assume that someone, somewhere has accounted for every reference? Not sure if such a thing exists.

yes, it’s the best enabler for oath in the game

It's a combination of "applying modern behavioral standards to fictional tropes makes you look cleverer than the author" and "straight white men are always safe targets". They would never put such a hostile interpretation on every move if Jolrael were the main character and taking the same actions.

@@karlk5801 Maybe, but it seems like there's a genuine hatred there and it feels very bigoted from Patrick's side of things. I was never really a fan of Gerard as a character, mostly because I thought he was less interesting than Urza and others, but I really can't understand how someone listens to the story of Gerard making a difficult decisions of leaving a friend behind to assure the survival of the world and twists it into Gerard being privileged and egotistical to the point of malice. I don't think I'll be coming back to this podcast, I liked the trivia and history, but the constant seething by Patrick makes it unwatchable.

Not until Mercadian Masques.

Hahahaha

please god no

@@giggz1667 A 15 second acknowledgement of a format that they have no expertise in would be fine