By far the funniest thing about Lysandre's Trump Card is that almost immediately after it was banned, Enrique Avila placed second at US Nationals with a 0-energy stall/mill deck that sat on Wailord-EX for 20 turns and waited for their opponent to deck out

"They would attempt to identify and ban cards that had the potential to make a major negative impact on an opponent before they get a chance to take their first turn" Boy how things have changed

11:10 Maxx "C" traumatic name cameo

“Vireyezin jeensect”

What's cool is Pokémon bans the problem cards first instead of the supporting ones. Like how Konami waited so long to FINALLY just ban Halq instead of banning like 5 different tuners which is what made it so good.

I feel like the video missed an important part of decks with Maxie or Archie. Exeggcute with the ability Propogation for hand-fixing. The ability allows you to return Exeggcute from your discard pile to your hand, and due to how private/public information works in Pokemon, you can use this ability multiple times on the same turn with the same card. This was an important hand-fixing card to get down to exactly Maxie/Archie in hand because some hands can be almost impossible to play down to a single card, but with Propogation you can do things like have a Maxie and an Ultra Ball in hand, Propogation two Exeggcute from discard and use them as the cost for the Ultra Ball to remain with just the 1 card in hand, whereas without that ability you'd be stuck with no way to get rid of the Ultra Ball and couldn't use the Supporter that turn.

I love that Pokémon actually explains why cards are banned. Wish Konami did the same thing.

Gotta tell ya, "Jean-sect" is a new one.

I distinctly remember the Lysandre's Trump Card ban being a bit controversial at the time, after all it had been nearly 13 years (the previous ban was Neo Genesis Slowking in 2002, Sneasel was banned over a year earlier btw) since a card was banned from standard, but looking back LTC might genuinely be the worst designed card ever made.

I just found your channel and I've been enjoying your videos. It's taken me down memory lane of my competitive time throughout me playing competitive TCG. I get war like flashbacks every time i hear the phrase "quaking punch" keep up the good work I look forward to watching more of your videos and see what you upload in the future

I played Lysandre's Trump card in a fire deck based deck and me recycling my energy and resources made games very long and I agreed with my bro to not play that card

Cant wait for you to one day make a Digimon TCG channel as well

6:05 to anyone who got here from the sister-channels and is wondering, if a player is ever unable to place a pokemon in the active slot, they lose the game on the spot. Since placing a pokemon on the bench (to be able to take the active slot if needed) is an "on your turn" action, it doesn't matter if they're currently holding any reserves (which they probably wouldn't be since a full bench is useful and Shiftree sends victims to the deck), if the last active pokemon leaves play they're hosed. This usually only happens if you brick hardcore and most tournament decks are tuned to the point where it's impossible without significant disruption (which is half the reason disruption effects are so rare and tend to be ban-magnets), but Shiftree exploited this rule and the game's general lack of out-of-turn interaction (put simply, Pokemon does not have counterspells or hand-traps).

maxie max ie max "C" same card- different name

Holy shit, and now I just learn you started doing Pokemon TCG vids? What a great start for the year!

So what I'm seeing here is you could theoretically use one vileplume (or omastar) to shut down item cards, another vileplume to shut down basic pokemon attacks, and then archeops to stop all evolution and prevent your opponent from playing the game. I like it

I had this steelix card that let you do 50 damage times the number of heads you roll consecutively. Stops on tails. I remember thinking it was sooo op. Then i see some of these. Geez

If this series does well, I hope you could cover any banned cards which were around in the pre-Expanded Format sets. Or maybe they'll get covered in those "Top 10 Cards from x Gen" videos I see you've already made one of.

I’m foreign to the Pokémon TCG, but from the little I know about Magic and Hearthstone I can make sense of what you’re talking about and it’s really interesting. Keep it up!

Love your d&d content, so I’m glad to find out you have a Pokémon channel!

LST is interesting in that it was banned immediately after arguably winning world's single handedly. The winning deck that year was able to draw the entire deck in one turn, then LST on the next turn to avoid deckout. This basically allowed the winning deck to play with a ~50 card hand.

love that the battle compressor is just a triple foolish burial….

I think a really cool video to make would to show how much cards pokemon players draw. Yu-Gi-Oh and MTG players would slay all the angels and demon in the multiverse to draw 3 and I stg I have the hardest time explaining to new players that discard your hand and draw 7 is unequivocally the best card draw in the game.

It wasn't the most powerful or consistent deck, but I had a lot of fun using Forest of Giant Plants with Evolutions Beedrill to fill my board with bees that could do up to 160 damage each turn

Dude you have a Pokemon channel too? That's amazing I love the Pokemon tcg :) If you haven't already, would love to see you do a video covering the fan made Gym Leader Challenge format :3

I did not know you had this Pokémon account. I saw this and went “hey that’s just like duel logs” lol

The Shiftry+ Forest of Giant Plants combo was what made me quit playing the Pokemon Online TCG. It got to the point where 2 out of 3 opponents were playing that garbage FTK.

Forest of Giant Plants is wild for how much havoc is caused in Expanded, what a mess of a card. It's a lot funnier to me as I played in the tail end of the 4th era with Broken Time Space, but of course with that card never reaching Expanded, its never been in a format where it's been broken. Just funny how FoGP feels more broken to me despite being a weaker BTS. Guess its because BTS was only ever legal in a controlled format.

Expanded is still broken. I've been having an amazing time with the Gym Leader Challenge format.

That transition animation from shiftry back to forest was awesome, great job Lily :D

man, i played a lurantis, decidueye gx deck when forest was still legal, it felt disgusting being able to output 80 damage in the form of 2 damage counters a pop before your opponent could do anything on turn 1

"If I had a nickel for every time archetops broke a format, I'd have 2 Nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice"

I played during the vileplume item lock days. Those were dark, dark times. Then lurantis and dicidueye joined the squad and it was over

Just picked up a Lysandre’ trump card full art at my local card shop and I kinda wanna make a forbidden collection now

Thank god my favorite channel for Pokémon

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

I knew lysandres Trump was to busted around the lunch table in highschool lmao

I remember playing an Item-lock based deck with the Vileplume and a Noctowl who raised the damage of its attack by the amount of Item cards in the enemy's hand, was pretty nasty

Seismitoad EX was such an oppressive card. Virizion EX and Genesect EX, the "Horse and Buggy," were a godsend. Fastest I had ever bought singles to make a deck.

This is now the logs 16 channel that he has created

Idk how this was put on my home page but you sir have a new subscriber

Scoop up net should have been errata’d to only non rule box Pokémon in expanded

Weird that I was playing the TCG during a lot of these decks and when I came back, so much had changed lol

when I saw the title and "the___log" in the name, I just knew what to expect. Thats just good marketing!

mr logs: Maxie me, half-asleep: wait-- Maxx C???

I'm suddenly imagining V-Union cards with Battle Compressor.

I wouldn’t have thought that a card that goes -1 to shuffle the graveyard back would be banworthy in Pokémon, but it seems like it is.

JEH *NEH* SECT

Imagine running Vileplume + archeops and your opponent can't do anything

This video was cool and informative to someone with a very limited knowledge of this game. I look forward to more!

oh man, this takes me back

here's a card I want to know about. Lt. Surge's Strategy. It came out in a set towards the very end of the sumo block. unbroken bonds. I remember there being tons of cards based on mostly kanto figures, specifically using let's go art since I think those games were not to long ago. "during this turn, you can play 3 supporter cards". ok, so you play surge first, and you can play 2 supporters. I was only watching some poketcg channel, but I'm pretty sure I saw a few videos about the card. so many supporters out at the time for draw, hand ripping, other crazy supporter effects. I never stuck around long enough to see if the card ended up being as powerful as it seems it should be.

I played in Madison regionals just before it got banned, and played Seismitoad Slurpuff at the Madison open the day after I failed day 1. (Slurpuff has the tasting ability, where every turn you can draw 1 and if Dlurpuss is the active Pokémon, draw 2 instead.) That thing was everywhere in the tournament for good reason. Ruined decks.

They changed the rule and unbanned wally, stating they would make an effort to not make cards that could prevent your opponent from having a vital first turn, and then not even 6 months later printed Boost Shake, making the Rules change completely useless. Granted we have not been able to truly see the impact of a Boost Shake Trev deck in Expanded due to the lack of Large Scale expanded tournaments, but you see my point.

I only saw Forest of Giant Growth in the thumbnail only. I remember playing against that when it was in standard. I hate that card so so much

I made a vespiequen and ray ex deck with forest and when i found out it was banned i was very upset cause it was one of my first decks i made when i came back to the tcg

I was not expecting him to actually make a pokemon channel.

Wait Wally’s unbanned? Yeah!!! One of my decks relied on Wally

thank you for sharing your vast knowledge! =)

You’re already my favorite wow KZfaqr Now my favorite Pokémon KZfaqr! My man!

I loved decidueye gx + forest + devolution spray spam. Could deal 100+ damage turn 1 going first

I'm sorry to break it down but Lurantis-GX is a pretty bad card lmfao. It's not a good example of a pokémon that would abuse Forest of Giant plants, i think it would acutally be pretty balanced. A better example was the golisopod-GX which can do 120 damage for a single grass energy. Much more practical. I wouldn't even have mentioned lurantis lol.

This dude has the same voice of duel logs from duel logs

I didn’t know the Pokémon TCG had a banlist

As a yugioh player the idea of mill being an effective deck is astounding.

Going from the yugioh ban list videos to this: aw shit here we go again

Maxie's Hidden Ball Trick was banned because it enabled a floodgate. Oh boy, is this different from Yugioh

The duellogs guy does the pokemon tcg now! 😀 He pronounces genesect "Gene-sect" 😞

While I love Expanded, I would advise directed content to it to be prioritized after. I have no clue how the algorithm exactly works, but unfortunately Pkmn hasn't been supporting it to popularity ;-;

So today's lesson is that Floodgates are broken when you can set them up consistently

your microphone somehow makes it HURT when you say "gene" sect . it's genetic insect , genesect. There is an entire movie about this XD

nice vid!

something is missing about this video.. oh yeah 2 questions. can this card would be unbanned? how could be change to make it unbanned (but still playable)

Could you do a video on the most OP cards and combos that got cards banned

Lysandre looks like a maelstrom member from cyberpunk, but for kids

i'm still angry and upset, that the pokemon company banned Puzzle piece. i love the card and its gimick, of needing 2 copies of the same card, to gain its more powerful effect when played. being able to just grab and 2 cards from the discard pile was great, and i remember using it a tun, back when i was playing the game. but of course some people thought of silly "looping" strategies with Oranguru, so it was banned.

Shaymin ex + scoop up net 😅

as someone who is familiar with the rules of pokemon, i gotta wonder how some of these cards ever got printed. isn't preventing your opponent's pokemon from attacking absurdly powerful?

11:02 Wouldn't Wally's innate effect to be played turn 1 circumvent the Sword and Shield rule change though?

> 4 minutes of talking about why Forest of Giant Plants was stupidly powerful me, who played back when Broken Time-Space was a thing: whiners (for reference, it was basically Forest of Giant Plants but not type-limited)

Today I learned Pokemon has Graveyard mechanics (Maxies card)

As of upload the next set has a Lugia V Star that can cheat out the new colorless Acheops the same way Maxie could, which then can accelerate Special Energy. In Expanded you even have Wally again, who works on Pokemon V because Wally explicitly excludes EX Pokemon, so this can pop off Turn 1 going second.

Geensect is crazy

I wonder if Jungle Mr. Mime got hit...

What is with Archeops and havinh way too strong-Abilities?

How many channels do you have

Hope you do this for Flesh and Blood some day.

unown and eggxecute the most annoy card at expand

Sneasel was banned? Lol why? I have it in my dark type "legacy" deck. Though I'm pretty sure legacy isn't a thing in pokemon.

Can you make a, how to play tcg video?

nowadays they said "screw banning cards lets just REMOVE everything from your account before sun and moon" with tcglive 😂😂 ROFL this game sux

"Oh cool, a new pokemon TCG channel, this should be GOD DAMN ITS YOU AGAIN" You have like six channels at this point, man. Holy shit. Also, it's Gen-E-Sect, not Gene-Sect. Sorry, it's my favorite legendary, I'm kinda anal about these things.

You made another channel 😅

Genesect is pronounced like genesis

"Jean sect"

Omg! nice!

Is delinquent not banned? I used it a lot online and then when I went back a year later it said banned in expanded but it’s not on this list

tf is a ginsect???

God bless heal and save you

ngl i understood like half of it.. why is the tcg so damn complicated 😂😂😂