And for my turn! First I'll play POT OF GREED and draw two cards!

BILL OF GREED!

I love this community.

Pokemon TCG player: "I play the Trainer card Bill to draw two cards." MtG player: "I tap my mana to cast a Sorcery Spell, allowing me to draw two cards." YGO player: "I play a 15+ card combo, recite the national anthem backwards while hopping on one foot, correctly reprogram my grandparents VCR, sacrifice my youngest sibling in a blood ritual, re-balance our country's national debt, universally solve world peace, cure cancer and poverty in one single night...and then I get to draw one card."

@@ZeroHero3d the ygo part is too low. you need to sacrifice yourself in the ritual too

He has a yugioh channel

@@CommanderSal Yes Logs has a channel, but meatball’s comment was a helpful comparison for me to understand the consistency

Don't you mean Do The Hand Control?

@@krullachief669 SOMEONE KNOWS LETS GOOOOOOO

@@ChaoticMeatballTV I saw you commit that warcrime against Celio's Network over on Beastcoast, course I know.

It's such a nice artwork! It's not very often that non-full art trainer cards get to leave their frame (the only other example coming to mind is Battle City, though I'm sure there's others), so it's quite the visual treat.

I played Rain Dance in Real Life at a local game store. I only played two games but I won both of them. Turboing out a fully equipped Blastoise was very powerful...especially when everyone else kept trying to bring out their Charizards.

@@universalperson genwinners lizard fans be like 😭

@@misterlinux9290 Kids in my school days: Pick Charmander, lose to Brock Me, an intellectual: Pick Bulbasaur, be effective against first three Gyms.

I know that feeling. Nothing more satisfying than hitting those straight 60's on turn 2, whilst your opponent is struggling to put energy cards onto their Pokemon.

Did you also think the game broke when the weird Japanese injoke character appeared?

I'd love this because he typically describes what the cards he talking about are (like explaining synchros for a synchro list) and I'm not familiar with the pokemon tgc so I can be caught up to speed.

Dark Gengar #1

Very funny to see him calling a Pokemon as "monster" haha

@@pac1841 I mean, he's technically not wrong. Doesn't make it any less surreal though lol

#1 from the original is Dark Vileplume by a country mile. If you include Returns, Dark Tyranitar and Dark Dragonite would be around the top too.

Personally I think that Oak is better than energy removal in that if I were only able to run one of the two in a deck I would choose Professor Oak. However, I feel like energy removal really shaped the metagame, gatekeeping high-energy decks and stage 1 &2's which I believe makes it deserving of number 1 based on how different the game would have been at the time had energy removal not existed. :)

Oak(and by extension the remastered modern variants of Professor's Resarch) have an inherent balance in design by how there's a risk/reward factor because in exchange for getting resources faster, you pit yourself closer to decking out-which was even more powerful in the Base Era days. With(Super) Energy Removal though there wasn't much balance- they were designed to be 1-for-1 cards, but because of how important a resource Energy is in the Pokemon game having such a powerful option of resource denial was too much, which is why decks that had low Energy costs(Stall/Haymaker/DtW) or could generate more Energy effectively(Rain Dance/Psyburn) were the only major ones that could float. It's a small gap, but the latter was so oppressive that it had to be #1. As a fun bonus fact, the first major Pokemon card to be banned from tournament play(excluding promos like Ancient Mew and Birthday Pikachu) was Neo Genesis Sneasel, and the reason why was because the first set rotation got rid of the Energy Removals which were the only cards keeping it tame.

There's decks like Venusaur's Leaf Trans that would be viable were it not for the existence of Super/Energy Removal.

You have to realize this is the way it is because the 2 games are completely different in how they are played, and this affects the value of cards that let you draw more from your deck. In Yugioh, you can play the cards you draw into much more freely, and from what I've heard (I haven't played Yugioh in years at this point), trap cards have lost a lot of value because they need to be set for a turn first before you can use their effects; as a result, decks have been focusing more and more heavily on being able to play as much of what they can in a single turn to establish their board. Pokemon, on the other hand, makes it far harder to set up in one turn because you often have to set up other Pokemon to evolve first, and the fact that energy cards exist at all makes it much harder to actually attack because you need the extra resource to do so, being especially aggravated if your attack needs a lot of energy to pull off; because of this, drawing effects are often much more powerful in Pokemon in order to make it easier to facilitate this type of gameplay. There's also the fact that in Yugioh, you can have anywhere from 40 to 60 cards in your deck, usually leaning closer to 40 to make it easier to draw into what you need faster; meanwhile in Pokemon tcg, you have to have 60 cards in your deck, this means that you're playing with a bigger deck size, and thus having stronger effects that draw more cards is honestly a necessity to help make sure you can get what you need sooner, while having smaller decks in Yugioh makes it possible to not need as powerful of drawing effects to thin your deck quicker without risking decking out

@@matthewkuscienko4616 One thing that seems to have happened to TCG in more recent years is the pace has crept up as well as the power. Quite often games are now decided in less than 5 turns, an if you're just playing against random people on PTCGO games can often be only 3 turns. Although I think this is largely due to abilities rather than draw cards. I only really played TCG in gen 6 and more recent days, but i have to admit I think I much prefer the gen 6 days as the power creep hadn't gotten out of hand by that point, for want of a better phrase.

this neglects the fact that yugioh is a TCG that has >no resources< unlike pokemon (energy) or MTG (mana via lands)

@@mattutter3525 I feel that the pace of the game speeding up, as you noted, is in no small part due to the power creep; this has happened in Yugioh, too. It's a natural occurrence that comes with power creep: not only do attacks do more damage and Pokemon have their maximum HP pushed higher, but other effects that let you accelerate energy and other things of that nature get better, too, which results in decks being able to get their boards set up faster and games end faster as a result. But it seems that drawing effects haven't really gotten appreciably more powerful as the game has aged, given that Professor's Research, originally printed as Professor Oak, has continued to remain in the game from day one and has remained the gold standard for draw power, probably because making this sort of effect too much stronger would become too much

Yeah, the CPU decks in the game are all really underwhelming, which is understandable considering you're never expected to get close to a competitive-viable deck yourself.

It's an insane card, if you want to be even remotely competitive you should probably run 4, and it's just backbreaking to be set back an entire turn basically.

@@bduddy55555 It even had a theme deck built around it called Blackout.

Oh man, if you played the sequel, there's one opponent who spams Energy Removal cards. You can't do anything against their Snorlaxes, Chanseys, and Kangaskhans without energy... Their deck was probably one of the toughest decks in the game imo. The other hardest was probably the Rain Dance deck in the post game.

"We totally knew they were gonna be worth something one day so everybody hermetically sealed their promo cards and locked them away in safety deposit boxes" ....Says absolutely nobody ever.

Who tf uses telegram

Lickitung also wasn't discovered until 15 years after it came out 2014. It was never really put on any deck lists. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5mUfM9lmtK8cmw.html

@@costby1105 That's what I thought. The video makes it sound like it was a deck in use during the 1999 era, but my understanding was that it was only popular once people start revisiting old formats competitively again.

It was played a lot during the time when Seismitoad EX was running rampant with Quaking Punch

Oh god I hated it, god damn everybody played the hammers.

Honestly, I'm surprised it hasn't come back given how often you see Energy ramping effects nowadays.

I actually don't think it'd see much meta play at all. At first glance I thought it would be broken in ygo but like it's neg 2. It's bad for board breaking cos it's literally a big red sign saying negate me and leaves you with 3 cards in hand. Sure it adds consistentcy but decks are so consistent now above 40 card decks are usually optimal. And like left arm searches anything for same cost and is terrible. Small world searches anything for a smaller cost and only sees niche play. Only decks that I could see maybe using it are more degenerat decks that are reliant on one card like final countdown or grass decks in ocg. If this card where to get banned it wouldn't be because it's meta it'd be because it encourages unhealthy decks.

@@danklemonsoda Fair assessment! Doesn't Left Arm only search spells? I suppose it wouldn't be banned but it'd give rouge decks with little to no searchers a huuuuuge fighting chance against consistent meta decks. Literally ANY card from deck to hand is just so good! Especially if the discard is for effect and not cost, that'd cause degeneracy lol

@@iistonton sorry yeah I wrote my comment to quickly. I intended to say left arm searches any spell and small world searches any monster. A card that can be used in ALL decks will not make SOME decks better. It's like the first 2 years moon mirror shield was out. Top decks didn't play it but 90% of rogues did but those decks only saw like a percent in increase win rate against the better decks.

Wdym? Small World is literally better computer search. Only one "discard"

I remember having a deck that was just the other Mewtwo (one with the shield effect but removing an energy from it to do so) and the rest of the deck being psychic energy.

Yeah, I'm really surprised not to see Blastoise. Energy Removal and Super Energy Removal were so busted that you either played strategies that could play on one energy, or you found a way around it, which was just Rain Dance.