Experiencing that Amiga nostalgia on a modern Linux system

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Proteque-CBN

Proteque-CBN

Күн бұрын

I have worked quite a lot with my daily driver computer, which is a Debian installation. I wanted to make it give me the same feel I had back in the days when I used my Amiga 4000. And for me, I have succeeded. I have included emulation integrated in my desktop to use old Amiga programs and besides that made the desktop mimic the look and feel of my old Amiga.
This is a show and tell, not a howto. Let me know if you are interested in a howto as well

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@SeeJayPlayGames
@SeeJayPlayGames Жыл бұрын
20 years? Your math is off. Commodore went bankrupt in 1994. Next year it will be *30* years. Now I feel old.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Ouch! You are right. Didn't realise until you noticed it. That was a real hit in the old! :O
@20windfisch11
@20windfisch11 Жыл бұрын
Yes, please do a howto! Currently running a Pi400 with PiMiga, but your setup goes far more into the direction I want it to be; There's AmiKit but yours looks so much cleaner.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
PiMiga is great if the goal is only running AmigaOS-stuff, and Chris has done an amazing job with it. But it is not really a daily driver, at least for me. The goal with this one was to be my daily driver and combine that with the feel of the Amiga and the software I use the most from the Amiga. Thanx for watching and commenting. I will indeed make a howto on how it all stitches together.
@Ghent2007
@Ghent2007 Жыл бұрын
@@proteque i want the howto pls!
@derLaslo
@derLaslo Жыл бұрын
Yes, please make a how to… and, this is also Importland for me: thanks for this nice Video…
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
@@derLaslo I have made them and uploaded them :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a5tpq9Z2x5yWdok.html And kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKeDodKenNPWkWQ.html
@Checkmate1500
@Checkmate1500 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing my cases in such a nice setup.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
that case is such an important port of the total. hope your monitor comes in general sale as well!
@adrimathlener8008
@adrimathlener8008 Жыл бұрын
Thanks in advance that you ar willing to make a Howto. It make sit possible to revisit my youth when I had an A2000 and spent may hours with DeluxePaint, Imagine form Impulse, Art Department and made some handy Arexx scripts. Man those were the happy days,
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
That was the happy days indeed. I had a. Amiga 2000 myself, but later in time. Thanx for sharing your memory. Just so you know, if you want a quick way to running dpaint it may be though Amiga Forever. It will not be integrated i the Linux desktop like I have done here though.
@endre2360
@endre2360 Жыл бұрын
We used to play Settlers on the Amiga. We had three floppy disks which had to be run before you could boot up the game. They wouldn't work properly every time so when we finally got the game running, we left the computer on for a week while we played the campaign every day after school! Good times!
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
aaah yes. used to do the same on the Amiga 500. Settlers was installable on hard drive so as soon as I bought an Amiga 1200 with HD life got a lot easier :) Good memories from those days when I left the Amiga on for days though. Used to play split screen with a friend for days as well.
@grahamshaw5531
@grahamshaw5531 Жыл бұрын
I still play the Settlers on my Pc. I did have the first one on my Amiga 1200
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever Жыл бұрын
The Amiga version of The Settler was written in Motorola 68K assembly code. For the PC port, It was translated into 32-bit protected mode x86 assembly code using a program written in Turbo Pascal specifically to port The Settlers from the Amiga to the PC. This meant that sometimes 1-3 more assembler commands were necessary due to the lack of optimization of the 68K code for the x86 assembly Syntax, which resulted in a little bit larger code for the x86 version. But because of the higher performance of at that time modern 386 and 486 PCs the code still ran faster on the PC than on the Amiga 500.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
@@OpenGL4ever Some interesting part of history there that I did not know. Thanx for sharing. I need to do some google searches and see if I find the whole story about the porting process.
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever Жыл бұрын
@@proteque If you understand German you can watch an interview about the developers of Archimedean Dynasty (German title: Schleichfahrt). They also did the port of the Settlers and later after Archimedean Dynasty they created Aquanox 1 and 2. In the interview, they explain in detail, how they ported The settler over from the Amiga to the PC. The interview can be found here on YT on the German YT channel "Stay Forever Podcast". The title of the video is "SCHLEICHFAHRT: Interview mit Oliver Weirich, Ingo Frick und Alexander Jorias (Podcast mit Kapiteln)"
@robertpeil6364
@robertpeil6364 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome work! Yes! Please do a “how to”! Back in the early 90s I took my Amiga 2000 to work and my boss let me make “MMI” stations using the CanDo programming tool. Lots of fun challenges to show the superiority of the Amiga back then… :)
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Sound like a Nice memory. Back when computers where fun :) thanx for sharing.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
I just looked up CanDo. Seems it was trying to go one better than HyperCard, with a more advanced programming language. But they left out the extensibility.
@OktayAcikalin
@OktayAcikalin Жыл бұрын
Good old times. Can you imagine letting your PC run a game for days without running out of memory and/or crashing? 🙂
@mattsadventureswithart5764
@mattsadventureswithart5764 Жыл бұрын
​@@protequeLinux makes them still fun, I reckon! When I first bought a win95 machine to replace my A1200, I enjoyed exploring that, but as time and upgrades went on, I got bored of ms OSs. Linux has brought back the fun for me.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
@@mattsadventureswithart5764 glad you have found it again. the tinkering part of Linux really sets it apart. it can look and behave just the way you want it to.
@mattsadventureswithart5764
@mattsadventureswithart5764 Жыл бұрын
I found directory opus to be amazing, way back, so im definitely interested in that "worker" file manager.
@diejuse
@diejuse 8 ай бұрын
Nice!
@-H3li03-
@-H3li03- Жыл бұрын
Brillant work! Awesome, you should make a linux distro with these
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
thanx for your kind comment. That would be unable for me to keep going. But will make a howto in a few weeks. That will hopefully get people going themselves. :)
@schlika
@schlika Жыл бұрын
Would love a howto or already some links to the software / fonts / wm (amiwm ?) ! Thanks that looks so cool.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
I have started on videos about it. The video on how my fs-uae setup is done is uploaded. So in short fs-uae is sort of the main software on this one. Here is the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a5tpq9Z2x5yWdok.html Worker (dopus clone) and qmmp (amiga/winamp clone, great for playing mods) should be a part of your distro if it is debian/ubuntu based at least. I plan to make a video about the looks as well. However to answer you I use xfce for this. And after this video someone tipped me about this collection with themes and links to font (topaz) and mouse pointr which may help you out a lot! I havent tested it from this page though. github.com/lordwolfchild/amigaos_xfwm4_themes
@soundfx68
@soundfx68 Жыл бұрын
I'm still using Directory Opus today on a 12900k Win 11 system - I saw the icon :)
@soundfx68
@soundfx68 Жыл бұрын
I also noted you mentioned it later!
@martsmiscmix
@martsmiscmix Жыл бұрын
Yes! I also use DOpus as my daily driver file management tool on my Windows machines! 👍
@soundfx68
@soundfx68 Жыл бұрын
I wish you'd have opened 'Desert Dreams' 😍
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Such a classic.
@mkrleza
@mkrleza Жыл бұрын
Absolutely HOW TO!
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Thanx for replying. I for sure will make one. Something that covers both Amiga side and Linux side.
@mauricedoerr1992
@mauricedoerr1992 Жыл бұрын
YES ! an howto :
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
I will definitive make one. There is an Amiga side of it and a Linux side of it, so will be a long one :)
@bloombergwhistleblower
@bloombergwhistleblower Жыл бұрын
yes please
@lis6502
@lis6502 Жыл бұрын
loool, and i thought that i am the one who's crazy using Topaz on i3wm + Thunar as well as red Amiga mouse pointer (WB2.x, not 1.3 :P), not to mention occasionaly tinkering around Worker as reminiscence of unbeatable DOpus ;d
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
cheers! Glad there are more of us! :)
@AShortBusVet
@AShortBusVet Жыл бұрын
I never had an Amiga (back in their heyday my parents opted for a Tandy 1000HX instead), but I've always been fascinated with them. The showcase is nice, but perhaps next time around a clue or two as to how to mimic such a setup? For example I assume the sidebar is just an XFCE panel, but as for the top panel the stock XFCE setup doesn't have all the info displayed that yours does. Were those built-in XFCE modules, or something you grabbed elsewhere and used instead? Sorry if it seems like I'm nitpicking; I'm just looking at it from the perspective of an Amiga layman here.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
no worries. nitpicking is great when they are like yours and tell me what you miss. I did plan on doing a todo on its own. Was mainly planning on focusing on the integration between the amiga side and the linux side, but your comment makes me think I should include the pure linux-side of it as well. This video was just a "showcase", and ment as an inspiration really. Thanx :)
@bhamadicharef
@bhamadicharef Жыл бұрын
where can I found this classic Enigma mod file :D ?!
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Such a good mod that! I found it on modarchive.org. I think this is the right one. modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42146
@wobblyman2000
@wobblyman2000 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m not sure if this would work but just an idea maybe in your scripts you could kill the process that is running the emulator so no need to see the window at all when you hit F12 not sure how hard this would be to implement, but it would be a much cleaner solution
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
That would indeed work. The amiga handles stuff like that without a problem. One can also map a custom key to quit fs-uae quite easily. That would be cleaner.
@Pracedru
@Pracedru Жыл бұрын
Its much more than 20 years ago now.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Hehe yes. That one hurt a bit once I realised after someone pointed out
@gnu-lynx2501
@gnu-lynx2501 6 ай бұрын
nice amiga linux! :) Have you seen dintwm the amigaos tiling window manager by RasmusEdgar? For a dwm and amiga connoisseur this would be another worthy amiga desktop experience on mundane linux x86 computers.
@proteque
@proteque 6 ай бұрын
I have not! But I will absolutely give this a test now. Thanx for telling me about it!
@gnu-lynx2501
@gnu-lynx2501 6 ай бұрын
it's for native amigaos, but modding dwm on native linux with the other dwm patches and your xfce adapation at hand looks very fruitbearing to me @@proteque
@proteque
@proteque 6 ай бұрын
@@gnu-lynx2501 I gave it a try. and recorded it. I truly strugled. hehe. Will upload the video in almost two weeks if you are interested. It was fun testing it, but it was not for me. Thanx a lot for the tip. I had a great time testing it out.
@gnu-lynx2501
@gnu-lynx2501 6 ай бұрын
wow, nice! I was mesmerised to see it on amiga. Though happy with vanilla dwm since >10 years I'm tempted to add amiga signatures like Topaz like in your xfce mod to it. dwm is kind of the grandfather to many of the popular tiling managers. No wonder, it's very readable in only 2000 lines of C.@@proteque
@samuelbanya
@samuelbanya 4 ай бұрын
What keyboard is that? Same with the speakers and the desktop PC case and monitor?
@proteque
@proteque 4 ай бұрын
Hey. The speakers are some random speakers my local electronic shop had. I think it was called creative pebble. The dekstop is called checkmate1500+. It is made by the same guy that made the original Amiga 1500 case back in the days and is inspired by the look of the Amiga 3000. A very nice case! The keyboard is actually an official Amiga keyboard. I think it is mostly made for modern PPC Amigas. Simulant Systems Ltd is the company behind it. I think it is still possible to buy it.
@brianking2959
@brianking2959 Жыл бұрын
Which NEC monitor do you have? If it is a P212, i'm very jealous :)
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
It is not a P212, It is a multisync 2090uxi. I really like it though.
@brianking2959
@brianking2959 Жыл бұрын
@@proteque been hunting for a p212, gave up. Ordered one of these to go with my beige/white amiga 3000 + 1000. Thanks!
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
@@brianking2959 I struggled to find the difference between the P212 and the 2090UXi. Even looks the same from the pictures. I guess you will need a scandoubler to connect any of them to the A1000 but the 3000 has that buildtin so no problems there. Proper 4:3 monitors are rare so good find!
@brianking2959
@brianking2959 Жыл бұрын
@@proteque main difference is response time of the P212, and colour-range. But they're unobtanium. The Eizo 4:3 1600x1200 monitors are nice, but they don't do 50Hz unless you use the VGA connection. In my A1000 case, I have a Denise based RGB2HDMI adapter, so I'll just use that via HDMI to DVI. The A3000 can go over VGA. And eventually an RTG card in the A3000 can go to the 2nd DVI port.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
@@brianking2959 Thanx for the clear up.
@gigamatman
@gigamatman 6 ай бұрын
Tutoriel pour l'installation du thème ?
@proteque
@proteque 6 ай бұрын
I did make two followups to this video. one that showed the themes etc and one that showed the fs-uae integrations. Hope those can help you out :)
@briankarikari
@briankarikari Жыл бұрын
Hey Proteque so yesterday I got a 93.33% A on the "A New National Identity" Unit Test and a 86.66% B+ on the Reading Assignment: "PTC, Genes, and Bitter Taste" last Tuesday. I have studied "A New National Identity" Unit Study Guide. And the Reading Assignment: "PTC, Genes, and Bitter Taste". I should be proud of myself for I got on the test and the Reading assignment.
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@Wishla
@Wishla Жыл бұрын
3.2 K views ❤
@artype211
@artype211 Жыл бұрын
Ok for e hontow👍
@shaunfossett
@shaunfossett Жыл бұрын
A tutorial on how you did this would be great!
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Will make howtos. But think I need to separate it in parts not to end up as a wall of information. Is it the "integrated" Amiga software that should be first, or the looks?
@powervr
@powervr Жыл бұрын
how to please!
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
it is coming :)
@SullySadface
@SullySadface Жыл бұрын
Linux aint workbench, Chief. Then again, neither is AmigaOS. Definitely the a howto video would be cool.
@DeFrisselle
@DeFrisselle Жыл бұрын
Now pull down the screen
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
Haha right. A lot if things the real amigaos is STILL superior at. :)
@Florin76
@Florin76 Жыл бұрын
Well... theming a Linux distro and crete shortcuts to launch Amiga apps via an emulator. AmiBerry and Amiga Forever offer the same thing. I think that is more interesting to have a bare metal Amiga emulator and transform your actual hardware into a powerful Amiga with AmigaOS 4.1!
@proteque
@proteque Жыл бұрын
sure, to each their own! This was my preferred way to have my daily driver. Others will have other takes on it.
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