Experimental Slat Plane! Unstallable wing?

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Samm Sheperd

Samm Sheperd

9 жыл бұрын

This video is about an experimental RC scratchbuild featuring a wing with slots in it. Hope you're wondering why wings stall!
Boundary Layer Clarification: it is said that the air CLOSEST (like super duper close) to the wing has a velocity of 0. But I made it seem like all of the air in the boundary layer doesn't move which is NOT TRUE. The boundary layer is is a layer of air thats getting slowed down by friction and it's thickness is from the very surface of the wing to the point where the air is all moving the normal speed and not getting slowed down.
All fluids have some viscosity and so boundary layers form when any fluid (like water air oil or honey) rub up against something else.
Pilots are taught that a wing will always stall at a certain angle relative to the wind (or Angle of Attack) That is the extent to which pilots are taught why a wing stalls, it's the critical angle of attack. This angle corresponds to the slowest speed that an airplane can fly and still produce lift equal to its weight. If the plane goes any slower, than the angle required exceeds the stalling angle.
But the plane can also stall at a much higher speed if it pulls up too aggressively. A plane can stall at a very high airspeed in a turn, and pulling out of a dive etc.
The REASON that the wing stalls at a certain angle is kind of what I explained in this video. The Low to High pressure gets more extreme at higher angles. As the speed (or kinetic energy) of the air increases, so does the pressures. But the RATIO of speed to pressures is what changes with the angle.
So you know more than Pilots :)
The stalling angle can change if the shape of the wing changes.
Video's featured/used in this video:
Stairway to Heaven plane: • SLAT PLANE (STAIRWAY T...
Boundary Layer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SkWx...
Wind tunnel footage: • Video
Tell Tail on stalling wing footage: • Vortex Generators on E...

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@adamchurvis1
@adamchurvis1 7 жыл бұрын
Dude-- never stop with the fluid dynamics!
@JakeAvatar1
@JakeAvatar1 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Churvis Fluid dynamics are life
@adamchurvis1
@adamchurvis1 7 жыл бұрын
Damn skippy.
@goofyfoot2001
@goofyfoot2001 7 жыл бұрын
Jake Colli co2 is life
@fullviewstudios
@fullviewstudios 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the fluid dynamics stuff, only a talented teacher can take a simple concept and keep it simple....
@seven9766
@seven9766 6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Those who watch your videos come here partly for new aerodynamic concepts... Your Planes wont win a beauty contest, but an ingenuety contest very well. Keep doin the fluid dynamics ...
@dacpilot1
@dacpilot1 7 жыл бұрын
Hey! I am a 70-year-old pilot , Built homebuilt aircraft, and rebuilt factory made aircraft. You explained the cause of wing stalls better than any other explanation I have ever heard. Thanks Dwayne
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 7 жыл бұрын
+Dwayne Carter thanks man! I'm a CFI now. Would love to build my own experimental!
@phildawe7172
@phildawe7172 7 жыл бұрын
I agree! summed up some much hazy info in a clear concise understandable package
@sweeflyboy
@sweeflyboy 3 жыл бұрын
A agree. Amazing.
@manofsan
@manofsan 2 жыл бұрын
​ @Samm Sheperd - could this type of Slat Plane be built at full scale? Would the concept still work at full size? Also, horizontal and vertical blinds have slats that can rotate to close the gaps between them. Is it possible to do that and achieve a more normal low-drag flight when the slats are closed? Has anyone ever demonstrated this on even a small-scale model aircraft?
@Robot_Child_Productions
@Robot_Child_Productions Жыл бұрын
@@manofsan sorry friend, did you see his last video. I don’t think you’ll get a reply back
@Renizyne
@Renizyne 7 жыл бұрын
As an aeronautical engineer I sometimes have a hard time trying to explain certain concepts to people, you on the other hand give an aerodynamics lesson while simply showing us your plane, great stuff and well done
@calebsherman886
@calebsherman886 5 жыл бұрын
RIP Samm Shepard, never forget
@mirzawaseem2006
@mirzawaseem2006 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't get the info. Plz clear has he died??? When it did happen? So sorry to hear this.
@johnbrown3711
@johnbrown3711 5 жыл бұрын
@@dodecahedron1 Oooh ... that is terrible to hear Samm Sheperd died. Based on this single video (my first of his) it's a tragedy.
@dinkmartini3236
@dinkmartini3236 5 жыл бұрын
Umm...Shepard has been dead for quite awhile. Guess it just hit you, eh? Bumber.
@calebsherman886
@calebsherman886 5 жыл бұрын
@@dinkmartini3236 Yeah, his videos still help new people even after he's passed.
@mpk6664
@mpk6664 5 жыл бұрын
@@calebsherman886 I just realised that, that was him. Shit.
@AndyFromBeaverton
@AndyFromBeaverton 8 жыл бұрын
Your girlfriend is a keeper. Nice to see couples working on projects!
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 5 жыл бұрын
AndyFromBeaverton As a liberal, I agree with your avatar.
@carmen071972
@carmen071972 5 жыл бұрын
DID SOMEBODY SAY LIBERAL!?!
@SocksWithSandals
@SocksWithSandals 5 жыл бұрын
@@carmen071972 Classical liberal. They're OK.
@TheCatsa
@TheCatsa 5 жыл бұрын
@@carmen071972 Triggered! ( ' ) ( . )
@carmen071972
@carmen071972 5 жыл бұрын
I uswd to shot a liberal every week. But now they have banned assault weapons, so I can't shoot them anymore. Because I am a law abiding criminal...
@19cmurry85
@19cmurry85 7 жыл бұрын
More fluid dynamics stuff! Great job of simply explaining something complex
@HaloWolf102
@HaloWolf102 2 жыл бұрын
I constantly come across useful videos of Sam Sheperd that help me tremendously in my projects, and his ability to forward knowledge in a digestible way. I can understand the words he is telling me, which is a commodity. This community lost a very valuable educator, and I am stricken with grief the amount of information I could have learned, and I am greatly thankful for everything this man has taught me with his videos. Sam himself lives on in the minds of others with these videos. He continues to teach people from the grave, that is truly impressive.
@rexxbailey2764
@rexxbailey2764 Жыл бұрын
WHAT!!! HE DIED!!?? 😳😳😕😲 HOW DID HE PASS AWAY!???
@nvo5307
@nvo5307 5 жыл бұрын
Miss his videos :-/. RIP
@scotts.2624
@scotts.2624 8 жыл бұрын
Yes much more fluid dynamics please. I hope you are going into Aeronautical Engineering. You should marry that girl.
@rcchallenges282
@rcchallenges282 8 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the exact same thing. more fluid dynamics, go into aeronautical engineering, and marry that girl!
@richardpetek712
@richardpetek712 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSudanPresident Unfortunately it is true: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7ukh9Bqx8uUZ5c.html
@danstewart42
@danstewart42 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt! A girl that will sit and cut little mini wings for a mega mini-wing scratch RC plane?? And then make into shark plane!? Keeeeeeps
@islamabouelata6575
@islamabouelata6575 4 жыл бұрын
He has actually passed away, I'm sorry to be telling you that.
@NickMoore
@NickMoore 7 жыл бұрын
+1 for fluid dynamics! Very interesting build.
@Linlds21
@Linlds21 3 ай бұрын
RIP Sir, every now and then I still come back to your video for some aerodynamics refreshing. What a legacy!
@heartsky
@heartsky 5 жыл бұрын
Most concise stall explanation I've seen yet, Bravo!
@jonnywaselectric
@jonnywaselectric 8 жыл бұрын
I like your videos, you are a good teacher, the visual explanations are excellent
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 8 жыл бұрын
+jonnywaselectric Thank you!
@amritacharya5709
@amritacharya5709 7 жыл бұрын
True
@Baaweh
@Baaweh 5 жыл бұрын
Really cool video, "And that is why your car stays dirty no matter how fast you drive it on the freeway." Just the kind of real world example that marks a great teacher. Thanks Samm. (I'd like to see that wing take on the air at the Albany Bulb.)
@xSOLOArts
@xSOLOArts 5 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for his Girlfriend, if you still watch any of these videos like I do repeatedly I hope you are doing well. RIP Samm Sheperd.
@mastermoarman
@mastermoarman 5 жыл бұрын
What happen?
@HAMlLTON
@HAMlLTON 5 жыл бұрын
@@mastermoarman watch his latest video
@sancochito75
@sancochito75 5 жыл бұрын
loved it. Very well explaination. I will pass it on to my friends who are in A&P school. Thank you.
@sancochito75
@sancochito75 5 жыл бұрын
awesome answer
@klingerrc8342
@klingerrc8342 8 жыл бұрын
I liked the fluid dynamic stall sciencey stuff! :)
@isprithul
@isprithul 5 жыл бұрын
We enjoyed it man. We did...
@coffindancer38
@coffindancer38 5 жыл бұрын
An airfoil is a time machine. The air going over the top of the airfoil is slowed while the air under continues to flow. Slow air meets regular speed air at the trailing edge.
@josephjackson3502
@josephjackson3502 5 жыл бұрын
I have been fascinated with these concepts for more than 40 years. I have been trained to fly supersonic military trainers, general aviation aircraft, radio- and control-line models and drones. I am still fascinated with aerodynamics and fluid dynamics. I am not an engineer. Great experiment. Awesome.
@MrGuyCali
@MrGuyCali 5 жыл бұрын
Getting recommended your videos after a long time. We all appreciate your contributions, RIP.
@tonyloechte9994
@tonyloechte9994 5 жыл бұрын
That's the best way anyone has ever explained how a wing works.
@danielrehn81
@danielrehn81 5 жыл бұрын
I've just finished the Helicopter Principles of Flight course for my pilot license, and in under a minute you just explained stall better than any of my three textbooks!
@FarmerTed
@FarmerTed 7 жыл бұрын
You did better job defining boundary layer than anyone I've heard and I've flown for 35 years. Great job!
@meinwarcrafttagebuch5142
@meinwarcrafttagebuch5142 3 жыл бұрын
congratulations, you are one of the very few who understands how a Formula 1 front wing works and why it is not only one surface at an angle like in the 80s
@PeterArian
@PeterArian 7 жыл бұрын
I'm using your explanation for my stalls lesson for my students from now on!! great work.
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 7 жыл бұрын
+Peter Arian I just gave my stalls lesson to my student today :) I didn't cover this stuff though, it's not as practically important to know, but probably something I'll share later
@alanstanley2847
@alanstanley2847 5 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace.
@theenzoferrari458
@theenzoferrari458 5 жыл бұрын
Such a sad ordeal.
@sitflyer2661
@sitflyer2661 5 жыл бұрын
You did one of the most concise and yet down to earth explanations of what, how, and why, this works. The graphics were a brilliant touch, well done, and thanks!!!
@davidburns1753
@davidburns1753 5 жыл бұрын
Simple is better ... most are simple people ... OK, I am a simple guy ... just smart enough to know how little I know. This kind of constructive instruction is priceless and you do not often come across it. Good job and Thank You!
@Aluminata
@Aluminata 7 жыл бұрын
Although airliners close the gaps to achieve high efficiency - only separating them at low speeds to minimize the stall speed; optimizing the parasitic drag profile could provide remarkable efficiency at slow speeds - Eagles have been using a similar arrangement at their wind tips for some time:)
@MatteV2
@MatteV2 7 жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to see more fluid dynamic stuff! :D
@phanindraravi207
@phanindraravi207 6 жыл бұрын
Your explanation of the air flow over the wing and the footage of the strings attached to the upper surface of the wing were very helpful. Awesome Video. Thanks!
@dfwz33
@dfwz33 7 жыл бұрын
Keep the fluid dynamics coming! I love seeing your experiments get more and more technical.
@ConradSpoke
@ConradSpoke 7 жыл бұрын
I liked the stall pressure diagrams. Never seen that before. Now I get it.
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked the explanation, it went a step further then most, and thus I learned something.
@brookestephen
@brookestephen 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT WORK! The fluid dynamics are a nice touch. Nice to know WHY things work. I'm trying to include work like yours into a small electric one-person ultralight, without combustion or propellers, so methods of pushing back the stall speed are very appealing to me!
@phildawe7172
@phildawe7172 7 жыл бұрын
thats awesome. The fluid dynamics footage was FANTASTIC. getting into RC models and winged aircraft and its good to see the physics of it.
@drewbert83
@drewbert83 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I knew what a stall was. Now, I also think I know what a stall is.
@cliffmorgan31
@cliffmorgan31 5 жыл бұрын
Great simple explanation.... Without the complex math to muddy the information. 👍
@natefessler3961
@natefessler3961 6 жыл бұрын
That was the most concise explanation of fluid dynamics concepts I've ever seen. And the first one I was able to fully process without having to pause the video and reflect. Thanks! And happy flying.
@samanderson3795
@samanderson3795 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation of the basics of the fluid dynamics over a wing!
@hit9inthehead
@hit9inthehead 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't get too crazy. You got a new subscriber though
@babumohan4549
@babumohan4549 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for subscribing.but he is no more. dead by a motorcycle crash.RIP samm.
@zenithairco
@zenithairco 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Let us know when you're ready to experiment with a full-size model
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 7 жыл бұрын
Oh hello +Zenith Aircraft Company ! I'm a CFI and Commercial ASEL and AMEL. I flew a 182 to Alaska a while ago and the other pilots with me would not stop talking about the 701 they were working on! Love your planes!
@markp8295
@markp8295 5 жыл бұрын
The fluid dynamics you explained was easily approachable. Nicely done.
@antiquatedflatulence1607
@antiquatedflatulence1607 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely done on your plane, the video, and especially your explanation of how and why stalls occur.
@imub4ur2
@imub4ur2 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more testing on this design.
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 7 жыл бұрын
+imub4ur2 as you wish
@nooblangpoo
@nooblangpoo 7 жыл бұрын
Now, lets try building a plane with this concept. A real plane of course.
@marianopicco
@marianopicco 7 жыл бұрын
It would kinda get in the way to make a whole slattable wing when you consider the wing is where most airliners take most of their fuel...
@TheGreyhoundGames
@TheGreyhoundGames 7 жыл бұрын
The best I'd see something like this for would be bush pilots since many times they have to go into a near stall anyway to land in the ridiculously short "runways" they use.
@Dirkietje8
@Dirkietje8 7 жыл бұрын
When the wind is blowing hard enough some pilots can even land or take off without moving a lateral meter.
@JWSmythe
@JWSmythe 7 жыл бұрын
That is a different effect. Flight is totally dependent on airspeed. Ground speed is totally irrelevant, except for getting where you're going. For something like a Cessna 150, you could "fly" at runway altitude (i.e., steady flight, not climbing) in 55 mph wind. You'd want 75 mph or so to actually climb. In theory, you could fly backwards, relative to the ground, if you had sufficient airspeed. Like in a solid 80 mph wind, you could cruise backwards at about 25 mph ground speed. I don't remember what the max safe takeoff wind speed is, but I'd think it's less than 55. :) And, of course, RC planes are much much lower. One of my little helicopters couldn't fight the air indoors from our HVAC. Trying to fly in 4 mph wind outside was impossible.
@EarthAmbassador
@EarthAmbassador 7 жыл бұрын
Icon A5 can maintain a positive rate of climb in a full stall. Not exactly the same, but still cool
@ahmadhorik
@ahmadhorik 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it’s the saddest thing seeing the best people on earth leave. You’re honestly the person that inspired me to work on my first RC project and I appreciate you so much (may peace rest on your soul) but you’re also the person that taught me most about flying. You’ll be missed bro
@Buntulla
@Buntulla 2 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 Жыл бұрын
@@Buntulla I can't explain that well enough. Please watch the last video on Samm Sheperd's KZfaq.
@jerrysinclair3771
@jerrysinclair3771 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I liked your fast paced narrative with diagrams / videos. Great job!
@Recon3Y3z
@Recon3Y3z 5 жыл бұрын
i found this video because i'm into fluid dynamics!
@indysandmanas
@indysandmanas 5 жыл бұрын
Rip Sam
@CaptainFutureman
@CaptainFutureman 5 жыл бұрын
Your explanation of the dynamics of the stall is pretty good actually. Never realized that's how it works, thanks!
@Skyfalcon12345
@Skyfalcon12345 6 жыл бұрын
Dude. You just taught me like 3 years worth of aerodynamics in 5 minutes.
@Aerospaceman
@Aerospaceman 7 жыл бұрын
Very good video, as far as the fluid mechanics, good explanation. Have you a chance to experiment in a low speed wind tunnel? I guess the next step might be creating variable slats changing their angle for flight performance?
@edwardtupper6374
@edwardtupper6374 7 жыл бұрын
If that was controlled by hydraulics it would be heavy but early biplanes used wires to stabilise the wings and warp them for rudimentary controls so that might be a possibility
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 7 жыл бұрын
I believe some microlights still do
@ColinRichardson
@ColinRichardson 7 жыл бұрын
I love it. More Science please
@thebobby131982
@thebobby131982 5 жыл бұрын
I've just completed flight training actually, and the simplicity of your diagrams actually filled in some missing pieces to enhance my understanding (plus ways to describe it to others) even further. So thanks for that!
@irenemartyduvall4347
@irenemartyduvall4347 7 жыл бұрын
Def enjoyed the fluid dynamics stuff. Great work. Wish we had more people offering simple clarity on such sophisticated subjects.
@chrisboyce6542
@chrisboyce6542 8 жыл бұрын
As a sailor I always wondered how a Chinese Junk (sailing ship) was able to carry on sailing for years with sails that were torn and full of holes, the answer I was given was much the same as what you described, each of the holes allowed some of the air to pass through the tear and create a fast moving air stream helping to create a lower pressure beyond the tear. My explanation isn't as clear s yours, I understand it.....I think. How much more drag did this wing create, did you fly this plane with a conventional wing to see the change in air speed as a comparison? Great slow flyer.
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Boyce I taught sailing at summer camp for two summers! In fact sailing is when all this fluid dynamics stuff started to get my attention. Those summers I also got into riding the "Air Chair." The longer the air moves along a surface, the more it gets slowed down by that surface because of friction. The holes or slats help to "reset" the growing boundary layer with new air. Though a bunch of holes may not be the most effective approach. I did not put a different wing on this plane, but that may have been a good idea. The motor/prop combo was one to favor high lifting capacity at slow speed, but very limited top speed (it was big but didn't spin very fast). The best way I can describe the way it would respond to different angles of attack is "mushy" or rather unresponsive. I could rock it back and forth and it would still change lift, but less responsively as a nice solid high aspect ratio glider wing would. Said glider wing feels like a long, deep and slender keel in a sailboat. Very firm traction high performance, very responsive to turning. And a low aspect ratio wing (short and fat) feels like an old school sailboat without a distinct center foil. So I think that a lot of what I was feeling is due to how short the wing is. It had lots of induced drag and so maybe if I make a longer one it would feel different.
@chrisboyce6542
@chrisboyce6542 8 жыл бұрын
Another thing to add for extra stability would be to add more dihedral with the lengthened wings, all depends on the final application. I like your channel with your practical explanation (proof in the pudding) experimental subjects which inspires thought.
@eco19911
@eco19911 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, I am working on a material that supposedly does the same thing. If I make the material and send it to you, could you mount it on a wing and fly it?
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 8 жыл бұрын
+eco19911 Heck yea, sounds awesome! sammshep@gmail.com is a good way to contact me
@joeboe2
@joeboe2 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I appreciate the bits of background you provided on fluid mechanic principles. You struck a nice balance between technical accuracy and depth of information. Keep up the great work prototyping fast and cheaply!
@christophergoth1517
@christophergoth1517 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding job describing the physics behind a stall!
@icegiant1000
@icegiant1000 7 жыл бұрын
Wait... your GF built an RC wing? Nice...
@ghhg-je8wv
@ghhg-je8wv 7 жыл бұрын
Heard that line, then brought my girlfriend into the room a played from the start! (trying to drop hints lol)
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 7 жыл бұрын
..........but the poor boy had to repay the favour ;-)
@MrShadowpanther3
@MrShadowpanther3 7 жыл бұрын
Keeper!
@mrreymundo5383
@mrreymundo5383 7 жыл бұрын
You better marry that girl!
@davejones542
@davejones542 7 жыл бұрын
need more videos of the perfect gf
@benhuston310
@benhuston310 5 жыл бұрын
RV-12 stall speed: With flaps-41 kts Without flaps-45 kts
@peaceantz
@peaceantz 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job explaining the fluid dynamics of a stall, never saw it like that before!
@AmazingDingo
@AmazingDingo 7 жыл бұрын
The fluid dynamics were great! Please keep it up!
@Perktube1
@Perktube1 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe an enlarged design could lead to a new type of bush-plane.
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 5 жыл бұрын
It would work for ultra-short takeoff and landing, but both top speed and fuel efficiency would be ludicrously bad. Unless you design a very fancy system that can transition from multiwing to singlewing in midflight. This is very doable (all commercial airliners do it routinely!!), but very, very, very expensive.
@Jangle2007
@Jangle2007 7 жыл бұрын
This was great. No...not at all crazy with the fluid dynamics....the science behind this is fascinating.
@2001cavador
@2001cavador 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much -for many years I have tried to learn the fundamentals of stol aircraft with little success ,but after watching your video of 3.44 I now understand it all. A really cool video!!
@shinjisan2015
@shinjisan2015 5 жыл бұрын
This is such an excellent, quick video that simply explains stalling. Great job!
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 7 жыл бұрын
Very, very cool. I do wonder however how much a slat actually has any real effect on models (versus a non-slatted equivalent size, wing loading, etc) given the extremely low Reynolds numbers they fly in. My gut feeling is that the slat itself is immersed inside the very boundary layer that it was supposed to energize, i.e, not much significant amount of air is pushed through it to actually blow away the separation bubble. It is as I said a gut feeling as I have never found any reference to slat effectiveness versus Reynolds number. If you (or anyone reading this) can link to anything concerning this, I'd love to read it. Oh, and great experiment, great video, thanks for sharing.
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 7 жыл бұрын
Your intuition is excellent. I think small Reynolds numbers plays a large role in this experiment
@jacobstump4414
@jacobstump4414 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking something similar. I think a very high percentage of the lift is being created by the high AoA, and very little created by the airfoil pressure differential. Consequently, I would bet that if you tried to fly this "wing" at an AoA near zero, the lift would be practically zero. Not that it would stall necessarily, but it would force a nose down recovery so quickly it would be like hitting a wall. I think that's probably why he said that the controls felt so odd - it only really "flies" at AoA's well away from zero.
@krimm1450
@krimm1450 7 жыл бұрын
loved the video and the explanation was very good :-)
@dwsandlin56
@dwsandlin56 7 жыл бұрын
corisco tupi
@TheDuckofDoom.
@TheDuckofDoom. 7 жыл бұрын
A large part of slat functioning is that it reduces the boundary layer thickness. this has also been accomplished with porous wing skin and auxiliary blowers that directly suck the stagnant air layer from the upper wing surface. Leading edges and other positive flow displacement areas such as the lower surface have impinging positive pressure flow conditions and inherently thin boundary layers; the thick boundary and stall happens in diverging [slowing] flow regions like the upper surface behind maximum wing thickness, the boundary layer is actually at a fairly low pressure even at very low reynolds numbers and able to allow much flow through a slat. Lastly all text books and most simulators exaggerate boundary layer thickness by a factor of 10x or 100x which is illustrative of the general concept but also creates an inaccurate intuition for the true design parameters.
@leeham8854
@leeham8854 7 жыл бұрын
Did you just use the elevators for your roll control?
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 7 жыл бұрын
+Liam Newby I have ailerons
@leeham8854
@leeham8854 7 жыл бұрын
Samm Sheperd oh right yeah, noticed them after watching it again. Brilliant builds, keep it up and thanks for responding!
@bushpilot4234
@bushpilot4234 7 жыл бұрын
Been doing this for 50 years, you did a very good job!
@ahobimo732
@ahobimo732 7 жыл бұрын
One of the clearest explanations of flight dynamics I've ever seen. DO MORE PLEASE! :)
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew ... I can't find your comment about the wing being "sucked" up into the lower pressure above the wing, but it really isn't. That's like saying you can transfer cold, rather than heat, which makes sense from a layman's standpoint, but not a physicists. You are correct about the lowered pressure above, but what is really happening is that the higher (even if it were only atmospheric) pressure under the wing is pushing the wing into the lower pressure. When you suck on a plugged straw and then plug it with your tongue, or put your hand over a shop vac inlet, the force you feel it the atmospheric pressure pushing your tongue or hand into the straw/vac, not the lower pressure in the straw/vac drawing it in. It's really just semantics, sort of, but is technically more accurate, the "forcer" is the higher pressure side. Not a different reason, just a more accurate explanation. Hope I didn't confuse the issue more ;-). I think the best way to think of Bernoulli is to picture the air molecules staying roughly constant in energy (they don't, but it simplifies the picture, there is heat, etc., involved that we will ignore). When you force the molecules to move think of it as raising the velocity Kinetic Energy of the molecules, and lowering the pressure KE to keep things constant. Not totally the case, but OK for first order effect, and understanding.
@matthewspaccarelli5007
@matthewspaccarelli5007 7 жыл бұрын
John Sikes very good explanation I'm always trying to learn new things. It makes sense but I still have some questions. In the case of the vacuum the low pressure is caused by a mechanical force and the atmospheric pressure is pushing on the hose. In the ping pong ball example the low pressure is not caused by suction but by blowing faster air. So I just don't understand. I like to learn so if someone wants to give me a call who can explain this I would be grateful. 912-313-1234. Thanks.
@jackfrost2146
@jackfrost2146 7 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a documentary program such as "Air Crash Investigations" where a person or random debris is blown out of a hole in a suddenly decompressed plane, it is always "sucked". Yet the same writers of these programs would never consider that a bullet is sucked out of the barrel of a gun by the lower pressure outside of the barrel.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 7 жыл бұрын
Jack ... At the script writer's level of understanding the thought would never occur to them that those two things have anything to do with one another. They're not thinking in absolute pressure, their only thought of "0" pressure is 1 atmosphere. But yes, what you say it a good example, for someone who thinks. I saw Neil Degrasse Tyson, educated at Columbia, Harvard, and U of Texas, say the other day that the ISS experiences zero g, not microgravity, which is dead wrong, so even some of the "physicists" can't get simple things right any more. It's getting bad. I don't think you'd hear Kaku say something like that, but I've heard some goofy things from him, as well. As soon as some people get famous, they buy into their own press, I guess, and become experts on EVERYTHING.
@rick121x
@rick121x 7 жыл бұрын
Neither is true. There is a difference in pressure, creating a force which acts on the bullet to cause it's forward motion.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 7 жыл бұрын
Richard, while I can't strictly argue with what you said, the higher pressure is the forcer, as it has higher kinetic energy within the higher pressure gas, and that molecular vibrating motion IS the driver. Am I wrong?
@Vassilika1
@Vassilika1 8 жыл бұрын
I want a Girlfriend like yours :-) Great Video... I guess this wing is not for high Speed?
@rosso4122
@rosso4122 8 жыл бұрын
+vass ilika he should make a plane capable of high speeds with this wing ... id say it rips the wing apart cuz of the high resistance
@cabfa18wg
@cabfa18wg 7 жыл бұрын
but what if the wing slats rotate like a window blind does for high speed to make a solid wing surface then expand or rotate to the open slat configuration for stalless low speed almost no speed landing
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 7 жыл бұрын
THAT is the most interesting suggestion I've heard for a long time
@herbertshallcross9775
@herbertshallcross9775 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, everything this wing does right comes at the expense of built-in drag. That's why leading edge slats and wing flaps are usually retractable.
@sonshinelight
@sonshinelight 6 жыл бұрын
Herbert Shallcross EXACTLY, Like the Helio Courier, and Highlander Super STOL.
@10000Mistakes
@10000Mistakes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million for excellent explanations, especially the wind tunnel footage and simulations.
@lordnevets9184
@lordnevets9184 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained. In one video: I've understood what 'stall' does. What causes it. What it looks like. How its prevented. And then a genius idea, perceived, engineered and tested. Don't get me wrong, I like Cat videos like the next guy but this is what KZfaq should be used for. Thank you to you both. Brilliant.
@timhyatt9185
@timhyatt9185 7 жыл бұрын
i'd like to see some serious testing here.....change certain variables and compare - try some serious flight testing, with a radar gun if you can get ahold of one.... varry the mounting angle, the angles of the slats themselves, the numbers of slates, etc.....could be a serious research project here.....
@chowderstevens9375
@chowderstevens9375 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Hyatt sounds like a great time.... Not!
@AD_RC
@AD_RC 5 жыл бұрын
I keep stumbling upon his videos and keep forgetting he died :(
@8pillz4thrillz
@8pillz4thrillz 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work! Always refreshing to see folks actually LEARN something from a vid. never apologize for knowledge
@richardvallonjr.6716
@richardvallonjr.6716 7 жыл бұрын
I've been flying with my Dad for over 50 years and we have practiced stalls many times... now I know WHY the wing stalls- I just always thought is was the lack of speed- had no idea the pressure in the back is greater- or that this slatting solves that problem. Your model flies brilliantly...
@TheLifeTerm
@TheLifeTerm 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder who the 1 idiot is that gave this excellent design a thumb's down. Unbelievable!! Anyway, a really cool design. How about performance at higher speeds? Does stability increase, decrease, or remain the same as speed is increased??
@GrimFaceHunter
@GrimFaceHunter 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think he tried higher speeds than this, since he mentions that the wing has high lift and even higher drag.
@KnowledgePerformance7
@KnowledgePerformance7 7 жыл бұрын
it would require lots of power to get it up to a higher speed
@ushoys
@ushoys 5 жыл бұрын
The wing might not stall, but it has an impractical amount of drag. And next time please include more footage of your girlfriend. The delights of aerodynamics only go so far.
@williamcarrigan1082
@williamcarrigan1082 5 жыл бұрын
ushoys you are correct about the drag. As for the editing future videos he cannot anymore. He died. Rest in peace Sam.
@robson6285
@robson6285 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamcarrigan1082 what?? Who died?? I get afraid on thinking who you could mean who died?!? Please be more clear about this answer from you
@captaindickity1349
@captaindickity1349 5 жыл бұрын
@@robson6285 The creator of the video Samm Shepard died. Check the most recent video, very sad.
@rchammer3595
@rchammer3595 7 жыл бұрын
'the RATIO of speed to pressures is what changes with the angle' Understood like a download. Thank you dude!
@SammSheperd
@SammSheperd 7 жыл бұрын
You got it! I'm glad!
@dbaider9467
@dbaider9467 5 жыл бұрын
It's brilliant and yet "simple". Looks fun to fly. Thumbs up
@RelentlessHomesteading
@RelentlessHomesteading 6 жыл бұрын
Great job -- fun quick and dirty example of a full slatted wing.
@FunnyHacks
@FunnyHacks 7 жыл бұрын
Instant subscription. Fluid dynamics was excellent.
@turbofan67
@turbofan67 7 жыл бұрын
Loved the fluid dynamics explanation, you made it easy to understand.
@isaacbrooks1430
@isaacbrooks1430 7 жыл бұрын
Please keep the content on fluid dynamics coming! I love it and I love where this channel is going!
@gushamilton5188
@gushamilton5188 7 жыл бұрын
what he said, you're a good teacher. Experiments are the best way to learn. And I have just learned.
@ryefield73
@ryefield73 7 жыл бұрын
I watch several videos on this topic and yours was the most informative and accessible !
@bradarmstrong3952
@bradarmstrong3952 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not "too crazy" with the fluid dynamics. Your explanation taught me why this would work! Please do similar in the future.
@patrickbruce9095
@patrickbruce9095 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been flying for 39 years. I’m a 737 captain. I’ve got 25,000 hours. I’m a glider pilot and flight instructor. Your boundary layer explanation and re-energized flow explanation was a great refresher for me and I will point others to it from now on. Thank you.
@therealzilch
@therealzilch 7 жыл бұрын
Very clearly and entertainingly explained. Keep up the good work. cheers from cool Vienna, Scott
@pegbars
@pegbars 5 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant! And your description was uber easy to understand, of a very complex topic. This old man is impressed!
@darioinfini
@darioinfini 5 жыл бұрын
That was actually a super clear explanation of what's happening with the stall. Nice job!
@231squire
@231squire 7 жыл бұрын
That was a really good little production. Quick & Informative you made it very easy to grasp a complicated concept, thank you👍😊👍
@aSpyIntheHaus
@aSpyIntheHaus 7 жыл бұрын
Well I have found my new favourite channel. Absolutely love the shark theme and how a completely adhoc build demonstrated the concept so well. Great job.
@davidpianosi4512
@davidpianosi4512 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Absolutely one of the best visuals I've seen of Leading Edge slats and slotted flaps
@guillermogil3391
@guillermogil3391 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Amazing. Don’t stop with the fluid dynamics
@johnhenry8402
@johnhenry8402 7 жыл бұрын
love the fluid dynamics discussion. understanding aerodynamics is fundamental to flight and successful aircraft designs. and this thing just looks cool too.
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